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Haredim move to eradicate 'foreign' pop
jpost.com — New list of guidelines with [ultra-orthodox] rabbinical backing differentiates between "kosher" and "treif" music.
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- bernk1, on 09/03/2008, -1/+2Gevalt!!! Vey is mir!!! Meshuggeners!!!
- RightHand, on 09/03/2008, -1/+3TFA
Musicians who use rock, rap, reggae and trance influences will not receive rabbinic approval for their CDs, nor will they be allowed to play in wedding halls under haredi kosher food supervision, according to a new, detailed list of guidelines drafted with rabbinical backing that differentiates between "kosher" and "treif" music.
The guidelines, which are still being formulated, also ban "2-4 beats and other rock and disco beats;" the "improper" use of electric bass, guitars and saxophones; and singing words from holy sources in a disrespectful, frivolous manner.
"Michael Jackson-style music has no place in our community," says Mordechai Bloi, a senior member of the Guardians of Sanctity and Education, an organization based in Bnei Brak that enforces what it sees as normative haredi behavior.
"We might be able to adopt Bach or Beethoven, music with class, but not goyishe African music and beats. We haredim want to protect ourselves from what we see as negative foreign influences. We are trying to maintain our own authentic music styles. We admit that times are changing, but we are trying to stay loyal to our roots."
... JPost
It's getting so you cannot have piss and these @@@@@@@ want to say how. - RightHand, on 09/03/2008, -1/+3CHASTITY GANG ARE OUT AGAIN
TFA
This is the first time that specific, detailed criteria, including comments on playing styles, will be used to add transparency to the delineation between acceptable or "kosher" Jewish music and forbidden or "treif" music.
Bloi and Safronovitch have managed over the years to consolidate their power by successfully courting the backing of the major halachic authorities. A large portion of the haredi community, which numbers between 500,000 and 700,000, is loyal to its rabbis.
BOYCOTTS
Calls by rabbis to boycott a business, to take to the streets to demonstrate or to vote for a particular candidate are taken seriously.
Enforcers of modesty rules working with rabbinic support have harnessed the buying power of the haredi community to put pressure on bus companies, cellular phone operators and other firms. Egged, Dan, Superbus and other bus companies now offer haredi customers separate seating on buses for men and women; cellular telephone operators provide haredi clients with cellular telephones that have no access to Internet, SMS, "fancy" ring-tones or telephone numbers with sexual content; and companies such as El Al and Shefa Shuk, a grocery store chain, have suffered from boycotts after being accused of desecrating Shabbat.
... JPost
Bucken hell. Was it like that in the 18th century in Eastern Europe? Bring back Palin.
.- bernk1, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3RightHand, note who submitted the article. It's me Bernk1. More Zionist propaganda! Do you get this worked up when this sort of stuff happens elsewhere?
- 911ArtStudent, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Break out the Matisyahu beats and fetch me a bottle of Manischevitz
- rhayat1, on 09/03/2008, -2/+3So what? Anybody who doesn't want/need rabbinical approval is free to ignore such guidelines. As long as you don't go blaring your music in haredi neighborhoods, nobody cares what music you listen to.
- thepoliticalcat, on 09/03/2008, -1/+3*****, these haredi assholes are just as insane as the fundie Muslims and the fundie Christians. These jerks are giving religion a bad name.
rhayat1, you ignore the fact that they send thugs to beat up people who don't live according to their rules and regulations. Crooks and thugs, is all they are.- rhayat1, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1Some of them might do that if those people do so blatantly within haredi areas. They do no go around looking for secular Jews to beat up. I've already commented on that one woman who was beaten up that we are not being told the whole story; she clearly was strutting her stuff in haredi neighborhoods (and no, I'm not justifying her being beaten up).
- n0gnuz, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3"We might be able to adopt Bach or Beethoven, music with class, but not goyishe African music and beats. We haredim want to protect ourselves from what we see as negative foreign influences. We are trying to maintain our own authentic music styles. We admit that times are changing, but we are trying to stay loyal to our roots."
Note the ethnic slurs: We will not allow the music of the (lowly) goyim/Africans to pollute our culture. - USNavyBlue, on 09/07/2008, -1/+2The problem here is the blatant hypocrisy in the media and among certain "watchdog" groups that specifically target "white" religious and advocacy groups with public excoriation for wishing to do the same thing.
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