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- JamesK, on 03/11/2009, -10/+373Waterboarding is just extreme baptism.
- jdthree, on 03/11/2009, -12/+368Torture is to Christianity as Hannity is to journalistic integrity.
- IrishJoe, on 03/11/2009, -12/+275Christianity is pro-torture? Christianity? The religion founded by Jesus Christ who was tied to a pillar and scourged with a cat-o-nine-tails, jabbed and spat upon, forced to march to his death place and then his hands and feet were nailed to a cross where he slowly bled to death and asphyxiated in agony? That Christianity? The one whose founder, Jesus, also stopped a crowd from stoning a woman for adultery and tended to the weakest members of society: the lepers, the blind, the lame, the deaf, etc. and said "blessed are the meek" and "blessed are the poor in spirit"? That Christianity is pro-torture? I think, Sean Hannity, is worshiping a different god. One with horns.
- cheetohman, on 03/11/2009, -13/+267On a related note, I don't have any problem taking Hannity's head, sticking it underwater and scaring the living daylights out of him and making him think we're drowning him," I declared , "and I'm not a Christian."
- fandyllic, on 03/11/2009, -8/+254Listening to Hannity IS torture.
- inactive, on 03/11/2009, -10/+230One could argue that Hannity is incompatible with Christianity.
- inactive, on 03/11/2009, -13/+157Hannity is a treasonous, yellow journalist.
- inactive, on 03/11/2009, -6/+125You'd think a religion which worships a guy who was tortured and then nailed to a tree would be against torture.
- JoeParanoid, on 03/11/2009, -15/+103Why not? It was used to justify slavery in the Deep South. But that's the trouble with Christians today: it's just a few Old Testament verses and the Book of Revelation while Jesus is reduced to icon status only.
- Arramol, on 03/12/2009, -4/+85Not to mention the religion that teaches to love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.
- banderwocky, on 03/11/2009, -6/+85Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)" - ironhide, on 03/12/2009, -8/+86How is this news? Most "christians" aren't christian.
- macmcraeart, on 03/12/2009, -5/+78The symbol for christianity is a ***** torture device.
- GutterBumber, on 03/12/2009, -3/+57I think Sean Hannity is worshiping a different god. One he sees in the mirror.
- jasdf, on 03/12/2009, -1/+52I'm sorry, but I laughed.
- inactive, on 03/11/2009, -13/+61For once, history is on Sean's side.
- plainOldFool, on 03/12/2009, -6/+53I think Hannity is a twit... and I'm a Christian
- danj484, on 03/12/2009, -3/+43The United States government during the Tokyo trials, the Japanese equivalent of the Nuremberg trials, would disagree.
- Volcof, on 03/12/2009, -4/+41it's easy to say its not torture when you're in a suit speaking on a TV show. Cops get sprayed with Pepper-Spray before they can carry it, shouldn't whose who are pro-torture be given the same chance to give a first hand account of how scary it is?
If torture guaranteed good information then it would be easier to side with them. picture the scene in "Fight Club" where they are going to cut his b*lls off while he is in the interrogation room. If I were in that situation I would fold right away. I'd tell them whatever the hell they wanted to hear no question about it, I like my b*lls. (I know they weren't interrogating him btw, (before I get chewed out for misspeaking) just trying to paint a vivid picture. ) - cyberprunes, on 03/12/2009, -0/+35wow. that was brilliant
- hmunkey, on 03/12/2009, -3/+37You'd be so good at writing SATs.
- reyoo30309, on 03/12/2009, -19/+52It's also compatible with slavery, rape, and killing children.
- Egroh08, on 03/12/2009, -1/+32You can't just say it so matter of factly. Christopher Hitchens underwent waterboarding to see what it was like, and he would disagree with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58 - inactive, on 03/11/2009, -3/+33Why do you think he hasn't come back yet?
- Jeepinator, on 03/12/2009, -6/+35Well that pretty much tore Hannity a new one.
- homercles337, on 03/12/2009, -3/+32FTA: John McCain has been vocal about his opposition to torture.
Wait, what? Which John McCain are we talking about here? Pre-2008 election, during, or after? - inactive, on 03/12/2009, -1/+27amen!
- Bloodweaver, on 03/12/2009, -4/+30So the Bible is full of outdated information that has nothing to do with justice. Did God suddenly realize he made a mistake with the old testament and make a new one? Why no heads-up that the old one is no longer useful? Will there be another update published soon?
- SoulGrub, on 03/12/2009, -0/+2310/10
- Terasiel, on 03/12/2009, -4/+26Perhaps he's never heard of the New Testament. He's Christian by proxy.
- jitterbits, on 03/12/2009, -0/+22You might, but the rest of us have ethics.
- sint4x, on 03/12/2009, -4/+25Not all who call themselves Christians are Christians.
However, I think that point is redundant at this stage. - Paranor01, on 03/12/2009, -2/+23He's neither, he's more of a douche.
- macuser, on 03/12/2009, -2/+23Does that mean we can disregard the entire old testament, including the ten commandments, the creation of the universe in six days, and all that other stuff? Or do we only disregard the parts we don't like any more, you know, those 'embarassing bits'.....
- ferrell, on 03/12/2009, -1/+19WWJT?
- pingveno, on 03/12/2009, -1/+19Read this and tell me it isn't torture.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php ... - CorneliusRex, on 03/12/2009, -4/+21I think nearly everyone employed as a "personality" there at Fox is paid to be overly emotive and aggressive. Those qualities are way too encouraged, like angry little children stomping feet, trying to get the world angry with them.
- computerfreedom, on 03/12/2009, -0/+17@*****: Law-abiding is compatible with violating conventions, treaties and law?
So the North Koreans were fine in what they did to our soldiers? The Japs too? *****, the Nazis could rationalization too.
"Der Fuhrer musste wissen" - chaos7, on 03/12/2009, -7/+23ignore sean hannity
- dirtymerkin, on 03/12/2009, -0/+15Ladies and gentleman...This months winner.
- Hetman, on 03/12/2009, -6/+21Christianity is never compatible with torture. The idea is absurd.
- Coffeedemon, on 03/12/2009, -5/+20Of course he doesn`t have a problem with it. Hes a guy whose ***** job is to talk. At no point in his existance will he be asked to actually do what he is advocating and he sleeps well in that knowledge.
- jitterbits, on 03/12/2009, -0/+15Ah, yes... to better get into Hannity's mind!
- ScienceDoc, on 03/12/2009, -0/+15That is a very important insight everyone to remember.
- sugarazor, on 03/12/2009, -4/+19Totally... strapping a guy to a rack and pulling his limbs, while not pleasant, isn't torture. It's only torture if you actually tear the limbs off.
- JamesK, on 03/12/2009, -2/+17He's a CINO. Christian in Name Only.
- jitterbits, on 03/12/2009, -1/+16Torturing innocents benefits them more. What better way to recruit others to their cause than by proving we really are cruel, barbaric and unjust?
- sugarazor, on 03/12/2009, -1/+16You've pretty much just described the current Republican Party.
- StarWarsFan, on 03/12/2009, -2/+16It's quite simple, really. Here's how it all went down:
Jesus was a Jew. He brought some new ideas to Judaism (For example, Moses taught "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" but Jesus taught "love your enemy" and "turn the other cheek"). Jesus was a Jew, and his followers were Jews. All of the apostles were Jews. They did not consider themselves to be part of a separate religion. Jesus was crucified, he rose from the dead, and he ascended into heaven.
Then Paul came along. Paul was a Jew also, but he was not originally a follower of Jesus. He was originally an evil man named Saul who devoted his life to killing and persecuting the followers of Jesus. But after a vision of Jesus on the road to Emmaus, Paul stopped his persecution and became a follower of Jesus.
The book of Acts records the adventures that Paul and the apostles had preaching the good news about Jesus in many different provinces. Churches were established all over the place and Paul wrote letters to them (the Epistles). It was at this time that many Gentiles (a.k.a. the non-Jews) also became followers of Jesus. The ministry of Jesus was aimed specifically at the Jews - Jesus was a Jew, and he taught to the Jews. Afterward, during the ministry of Paul, the message was extended to the Gentiles.
So did Jesus found Christianity as a religion separate from Judaism? Absolutely not. Did Paul? Paul was a Jew also and it was not his intent to found a religion separate from Judaism, but as more and more Gentiles became followers of Jesus, following Jesus gradually became less and less of a Jewish thing and more and more of its own separate religion.
So Jesus taught the message of Christianity - a message of peace, love, and forgiveness. But it was Paul who spread this message to both Jews and Gentiles by traveling from place to place preaching it, and writing the Epistles.
But even though Christianity was spreading, it was still a tiny minority of a religion in the Roman Empire. Christians were persecuted by the Romans for the next couple centuries - burned to death and fed to lions. Then the Roman Emperor Constantine had a mysterious vision that convinced him to convert to Christianity. Constantine made Christianity the official religion of Rome, and suddenly Christianity was no longer a tiny religion but a huge one.
That was the beginning of the Roman Catholic Church. Constantine was a sun worshiper (a follower of the sun-God Sol Ivictus) and even after his alleged "conversion" he continued to build temples to Sol Ivictus and mint coins bearing the sun-god's image. Constantine knew almost nothing about Christianity, and he certainly didn't understand the Jewish perspective from which Jesus had taught, so Constantine didn't quite get all the doctrine right, to say the least (the Council of Chalcedon was a theological disaster). Hence, the Church insisted that anyone who didn't accept the Nicene Creed should be executed (something Jesus would NEVER approve of!). It wasn't until the Protestant Reformation over 1000 years later that Christianity finally started getting back on track as far as practicing what Jesus actually taught. - jebudas, on 03/12/2009, -3/+17Jesus. Would. Not. Torture. People.
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