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Hanged from a crane aged 16: Justice Iran style

sundaymirror.co.uk — The Iranian judge who had sentenced 16-year-old Atefeh Rajabito to death was left unmoved as he personally put the noose around her neck and signalled to the crane driver. Kicking and screaming, Atefeh was left dangling for 45 minutes from the arm of the crane. Her crime? She had sex with an unmarried man.

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  • rekrapt, on 10/12/2007, -70/+37Gotta love that good old "religion of peace"... I can't believe anyone actual believes that about Islam. They're too busy criticizing Christianity.
    • CopperFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -9/+54Er, wait. Is criticism of Christianity somehow supposed to negate criticism of Islam?
    • pseudojd, on 10/12/2007, -26/+32Smoldering rubble instead of this crap would leave the whole world better off. google a stoning video and see what they do all the time. see it with your own eyes.
    • ScottMaximus, on 10/12/2007, -24/+11No, It's supposed to show that they are blindly supporting what Islam is supposed to be or is in theory versus what reality shows us. Usually because they don't like Chrisitans or Christianity.
    • Cronos, on 10/12/2007, -15/+61Ah yes, "religion of peace" indeed, especially when the punishment for converting from Islam is death. It's Islam or nothing, folks!
    • rolosworld, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14for more sequels stay tuned to:
      http://savemalak.googlepages.com/home
      or
      http://save.nazanin.googlepages.com/
      http://www.faithfreedom.org/Announcement/601081013.htm

      this is sad... :-/
    • Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -10/+53Scott - I can't tell if you were being sarcastic from your post, but if not...I have no idea where you and Rekrapt are getting this crap. To say that people who defend a closer inspection of Islam than Fox News gives you is somehow linked with anger towards Christianity...? You've lost me.

      Yes, Islam is a harsh religion. But it's also written in the original Arabic, unfettered by constant editing and translation, a la the Bible. It hasn't been watered-down and gussied-up to fit modern standards. Look at the Old Testament. You're telling me you see nothing but peace and love in the Bible? Do you remember a certain God annihilating everyone in Sodom for uncouth sexual practices? You call the killing of this girl intolerant, but you call that justice?

      Let me make this clear - despite being agnostic, I dislike criticisms of Christianity, because they're often based on past actions that were done in the name of God but which were obviously not the wishes of any benevolent creator. They were usually politically-motivated and small-minded, products of over-zealous rulers and religious wingnuts. However, that doesn't mean they're to be ignored or forgotten. Christianity's had as many heinous crimes perpetrated in it's name as any other major religion. You would think that Christians, especially, would take a long hard look at other religious persecution.

      Neither Christianity nor Islam are inherently evil. However, at their core, both preach intolerance (be it man's or God's) for those of different belief. In Christianity, this is mediated by (again) updates and revisions, the New Testament as a whole, and the political, economic, and educational climates in which primarily Christian countries like our own exist.

      Islam, on the other hand, is a religion that has changed little since its inception. The Qur'an is unedited (after all, the text has been traditionally memorized by millions around the world since its codification, and the lyricism of Arabic makes it virtually impossible to change one word without disrupting the structure of the verse), speaks of religious battle much as the Old Testamant does (without the calming benefit of the New), and is practiced by countries embroiled in constant strife and endless cycles of revenge and fundamentalism. Look at the Irish and tell me that hatred under the Christian faith, coupled with politcal and economic difficulty, evolves so differently.

      Islam is not the enemy any more than Christianity is. Fundamentalism, under any religious or politcal banner, is what leads to these kinds of atrocities. To make it clear, I'm not criticizing your religion or supporting theirs - I just think it's unfair to condemn a religious ideal based on the actions of even a majority of its practitioners...something that, in theory, you should agree with.

      Have the strength of mind to realize that just as you consider your religion basically good and tend to ignore its problematic history, others do the same for theirs. And you're either both wrong, of both right. That's up to you to decide.
    • nickerbocker, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Religion leads to wars...that's all it's been good for since religion came about. One religion doesn't like another so a war breaks out. From the Crusades to Isreal vs. the rest of the Middle East. Religion leads to nothing but bickering and eventually wars.
    • nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -19/+8Cronos: your ignorance shows. No country or Muslim actually kills anyone for switching from Islam. If you want to bring up modern issues (such as this one!) fine, but Christianity and Catholocism have just as many crazy things in their past, which are still in the Bible.

      (Oh, and some US states execute minors as well, don't be so high and mighty)
    • QueeQueeg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18"No Muslim or country"

      You are kidding right? There's well documented cases of death squads operating in Iran killing apostates. The Egyptian (mild by ME standards) government tortures and imprisons converts. "Honour" killing and mob lynchings of apostates are also common across the Islamic world.

      Only one Islamic school of jurisprudence doesn't mandate the death penalty for apostasy.
    • blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -10/+9I insist that you read the Bible. Or at least some parts of the old covenant. It does say explicitely that if a village believes in another God you should kill them all and burn their stuff.

      Again, moderate muslims are just like moderate christians/jews. They don't read and 'apply' the ***** parts.
    • QueeQueeg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Which would be applicable, if say the pope and archbishop of canterbury were calling for a crusade against the heathen and the head rabbi was asking for the return of the Sanhedrin.

      The crazy isn't the whole story in the Islamic world, but it is far from being a "tiny minority".
    • sithmat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5It is stories like this that make you think about how wonderful democracy can be. Never take freedom for granted, because when you don't have it, you are at the mercy of whatever murderous dictatorship runs your country.

      This article also shows how important it is to support democracies over dictatorships in any parts of the world, particularly in the Middle East. I'd feel much safer living around a country that didn't abuse its citizens than around a place like Iran where a theocracy seems to be in rule.
    • Nik420, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10"No country or Muslim actually kills anyone for switching from Islam. If you want to bring up modern issues (such as this one!) fine, but Christianity and Catholocism have just as many crazy things in their past, which are still in the Bible."

      That's an odd statement since death for leaving Islam is one of the main pillars of Sharia law. Canadian diplomats just finished pleading for a guy's life in Afghanistan because he converted ti Catholicism. I think they got him out of the country, but the justice system was perfectly ready and willing to execute him.
    • zombo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8The major misconception of Islam is that it is a religion along side Christianity and Judaism. Nothing could be further from the truth. Islam is a socio-politico-religious system that challenges Western societies and governments as well as other religions. Muslims boast that Islam is a Complete Way of Life and that Islam has no separation between religion and government.
      http://www.faithfreedom.org/gallery.htm modern islam!
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4Bush stole the elections so he's just as much a dictator as all the others. the US is a Christian dictatorship, nice.... lovely place to live in... when your CHRISTIAN. (and not gay, or black, or poor)
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5Israeli kids SIGN the BOMBS who kill the kids in Lebanon... now that's sick!
    • Pharaoh777, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the annunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance, and depression. And where once you had the freedom to object, think, and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillence coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen?" - V

      Honestly, this is pretty awful. It's also awful that we do the same thing in places like Texas. There are Muslims that are progressive, just like most Christians don't go out and stone prostitutes (like the Bible tells them to). The problem, is the fundamentalists.
    • nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ok, now I have to eat my words. I was wrong, it's not no one. I should have said very few. There will always be crazy religious freaks who cling to tradition and do things in the name of God.

      I should have said that most Muslims (there are over 1.2 billion of them) aren't practicing things like this.
  • shrewduser, on 10/12/2007, -9/+38it's amazing how literally backwards it is, in a western country the man would be at fault (if anyone) for sleeping with an underage girl (although here in Australia 16 years old is legal)
    • Anpheus, on 10/12/2007, -15/+9I can only imagine what people 50 years from now would think reading that:

      "What insanity. They automatically place at fault the elder individual, without ever questioning the integrity of the younger girl? How barbaric."
    • fiberspy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+8Yeah, I see your point. I always thought the girl should face some consequences as well, not in rape cases obviously.
    • brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16Well they don't think that girls, or boys that young are capable of making decisions. Which most aren't. Think back to when you were sixteen, how much stupid ***** did you do?
    • CopperFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@shrewduser

      It's amazing what decades of feminism will do for one's equality under the law. We here in the West have it pretty good, not because it "just happened" this way, but because our parents and grandparents made it this way. Unfortunately, there are many who would turn the clock back in this matter.
    • trevorsm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Alternative view: if no one is being harmed, then no one should be punished.
    • Dochtuir, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@shrewduster
      http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/literally.html

    • Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11"it's amazing how literally backwards it is"

      Of course it is literally backwards. Some guy living in the Middle Ages wrote down the legal practices of the day and declared "these are the practices that you will use forever more".

      It seems medieval because it *is* medieval.
    • Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"What insanity. They automatically place at fault the elder individual, without ever questioning the integrity of the younger girl? How barbaric."

      The whole concept of the distinction between childhood and adulthood is based on the belief that children do not have the worldly experience and mental maturity to be responsible for their own integrity. That is why they are protected by law from R-rated films, alcohol, sex and all number of other vices.

      This view of what the "integrity of the younger girl" means has not changed in the last 50 years, and will not change in the next 50 years.
    • vegasbright, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Allright, goodbye USA, Heloooooo Down Under!

      Do I have to like Vegemite in order to live there?
  • asdren, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24what happened to the guy?
    • bennyboy371, on 10/12/2007, -10/+27Most likely nothing.
    • nogami, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18I don't know why you got modded down, you're probably right.

      The fact is that there is no "law" there, it's all based on the whim of the cleric or judge in power - they have absolute power to do whatever they want without consequence.

      I pretty much view the entire middle east as a lost cause... I honestly don't think it can be saved.
    • maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Its the middle east and the girl was raped, so its her fault. Duh.
    • samnmax, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5In the article it says most of the guys had pled not guilty and were only sentenced to 1 lash, whereas she pled guilty and was often sentenced to 100 lashes and jail time.
    • Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"I pretty much view the entire middle east as a lost cause... I honestly don't think it can be saved."

      It wasn't always like this. Remember that Iran was quite secular and civilized before the revolution in the 70s. Sooner or later, the people of these countries will realise that they are being screwed over, will realise that the system is broken, and will demand better for themselves.
    • nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2"I pretty much view the entire middle east as a lost cause... I honestly don't think it can be saved."

      nogami, have you ever been to the middle east? most people think the US is a lost cause as well so hey, you're just as ignorant as them.
    • blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2"what happened to the guy?"

      He had an orgasm.
    • Nik420, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7They probalby think this is always the woman's fault because men cannot control themselves around women. The same reason they force women to wear burkas, to avoid tempting the men. I think it is kind of sad that they believe their own people have no self control.
  • bennyboy371, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8Thats... thats ***** up... in so many (literally) godforsaken ways. I wonder if the unmarried man actually cared.
  • victimofkratina, on 10/12/2007, -23/+6lets just start all the propaganda, "You hate Iran"..."I hate Iran".
    • synaesthesia, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22I kinda agree with you in the sense that this is dated from 2004 and likely only being brought up now due to the strained relations between the US and Iran. At the same time, it IS a seriously ***** up incident that occured very recently and many people have probably been unaware of it for a long time.
    • maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I'm sure similar incidents have happened and are still happening since then. Its apalling.
  • valis, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36*cries* Appalling. Unacceptable. Murder. Madness. Any law that kills young people for being human is a crime against humanity.
    • theHM, on 10/12/2007, -11/+34any law that allows the murder of anyone, regardless of their age, is a crime against humanity.
    • valis, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7Point taken, although I was replying directly to the point of the article.
  • icefrakker, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7***** animals. thats what you inevitably get when you mix deperation, poverty, ignorance, and god.
    • nogami, on 10/12/2007, -7/+24You can probably boil that down more to just "ignorance" and "god".

      "Religion" has been responsible for more death and destruction than any other force in history (religion is arguably just another form of politics).
    • xoxuxox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6The ability to see others as "less than human" has been responsible for more death and destruction than any other force in history. In other words, human nature.

    • datastorageguy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@nogami

      You forgot political movements such as facism and communism. These lead to the deaths of countless more people in the modern age.
    • blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Still you need to do the macabre counting while taking into account the amount of people this applied to. For example communism killed more people that nazism, simply because it applied to a larger population. China alones makes the difference in this case if you include the starvation caused by communism.

      The same goes for religious wars vs nazism. They were simply less people fighting, that does not mean it wasn't as bloody.
  • ronaldst, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4Let's deport all perverts/rednecks to Iran.
  • rritterson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Moral and humanitarian arguments nonwithstanding, I wonder what the relative serious/violent crime rate in Iran vs the USA is and how much of that can be attributed to the penelties.
    • jaiwithani, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Did you read the article? Corruption is rampant, and authorities break the law constantly.

      ...:smacks::
    • rbanffy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9How many violent crimes plus executions vs. how many violent crimes is the number you want. Being legal does not make it non-violent or tolerable.

      Death penalty is morally unacceptable.
  • ScottMaximus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Well, The Saudis do public beheadings every so often. This is just part of the Sharia.
    • robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Of course. "Nothing says obey me quite like a bloody head on a stick" -Stewie
    • nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Every so often"

      You make it sound like they choose random people and do it for fun. Murderers and rapists are executed in public on Fridays, but believe me it doesn't happen often. (I've lived there)
  • SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11You know something is seriously wrong with your society when men are trying to force women NOT to have sex. Usually it's the opposite.
    • koick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Sounds to me like many of them are getting raped and beaten when no one is looking...
    • Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The women are being executed for not covering up rape. Kind of like in this country, where whistleblowers are tried as terrorists for exposing government corruption.
  • jdh24, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17As a 16 year old myself, this is sickening.
  • thecheat1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Completely disgusting.

    The world seems to be unraveling fairly quickly and I hate to have to see it in my generation :(
    • KillaGoat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Good point, but it's been around a long time. Search for "Salem witch trials"
    • mtalon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The world's not really unravelling any more than normal. People have been treating other people like crap since we first picked up a rock. Look through history and you'll see it over and over again. The only thing that's different now is we get to see the bad stuff in real time via the internet. More awareness != more frequency.
    • Scottamus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yea, Just look at the genocide of natives in South America. 10's of millions raped, tortured, and, killed as callously as you would pick weeds. It's one of the most massive, and longest lasting genocidal campaigns in human history.

      http://www.religioustolerance.org/genocide5.htm
  • myh89, on 10/12/2007, -8/+20True Iran is crazy. Its called extremism. But what about the U.S. and the native Americans that where slaughtered. What about the Spanish Inquisition. What about the White Mans Burden. What about the Conquistadors. They where all Christian. My point every religion goes through a time of extremism this is Islams. Not to long ago a Christian organization called the KKK was lynching people and based on what his color of skin.
    • fatfinger, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Myh89, you're right on point with your comments. Good job.
      -ff


    • rbanffy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I wonder if every religion passes through this stage at about the same time from its introduction...

      What will happen when, say, scientology becomes violent a couple hundred years from now?
    • heatmiser, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Where the hell have you been? the Conquistadors invaded South America oh, about 500 years ago. I think comparing the actions of a modern country to those of Western Europe during the Early Modern period is a bit ridiculous. Sharia-like laws and practices died off hundreds of years ago here in the West.

      Most of the Middle East is stuck in the dark ages both culterally and technologically and everyone knows it.
    • Noein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"My point every religion goes through a time of extremism"
      Not Buddhism =)
    • Kardde, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I agree with you to an extent, but you're bringing up examples that occurred hundreds of years ago, and what history has classified as, "pretty bad ideas."

      The difference between those indicidents and what's occuring with modern-day Islam is, in the historical examples you cited, people didn't have access to machine guns and semi-automatic rifles. There were no missiles, no nukes.

      Sitting back and saying, "Uh oh, Islam's acting up again..." "Don't worry, sweetheart, it's just a phase... he's going through his growing pains!" is tantamount to hooking up a nuke to a literal big red button, putting it in front of a toddler, and simply hoping he won't press it.
    • icefrakker, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4"Most of the Middle East is stuck in the dark ages both culterally and technologically and everyone knows it."

      the middle east was saying the same thing about europe during the dark ages, and look what happened. try to learn from history before you make stupid comments will you?
    • Smoove, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2> "My point every religion goes through a time of extremism"
      > Not Buddhism =)

      That's true--Buddhists have always been extremely moderate.
  • fatfinger, on 10/12/2007, -18/+22Its funny how quickly "we" Americans forget about "our" past. Remember slavery? If you were black....Looking at a white women could get you....death, running away from brutal slave masters......death, refusing to work.......being wiped or death. Its been only about 60 years that blacks have been liberated by white American terrorist that we so quickly forget about. Now we're going around the world pointing the finger at other countries for stuff we've been guilty of, 400 million times over. In the words of the great Bob Marley

    "So before you point your fingers,
    Be sure your hands are clean.

    Judge not
    Before you judge yourself."

    Whoever posted this article only did it to create more hatred and to prepare you diggers for supporting another senseless war. You want to read articles about injustice and crucially to people? Pick up "A People's History of the United States: 1492-Present" by Howard Zinn and quit believing the hype that we're so perfect.
    • milomilomilo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20Quoting errors of our past does not justify the wrongs of the present.
      Especially incidents from such a FAR past.
      You know you don't have to be perfect to call insanity at the insane.
      Killing children becaused they were raped is so far past the border of sane thought I can't think about it without crying.
    • milomilomilo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11By the way, I have never owned slaves, nor was I ever "a spanish conquistador, and believe it or not am not a christian.
      Pointing fingers.
      It's calling ***** like it is.
    • jayc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Yes, because events that happened in the past that we have no control over occurred, we cannot be outraged at horrible events presently happening in the world at this very moment.

      Wrong is wrong. There's a reason why there isn't slavery, segregation and why women can vote. People had the balls to stand up for what was wrong. If you just stand around and say "well bad things happened in the past so bad things will happen now" those bad things would still exist.

      If I lived in Iran I could be just as easily murdered like this girl for being gay, as people have been.

      If you were on Penn and Teller's *****! about relativism your comment would be prefaced with "and then there's THIS *****."
    • xoxuxox, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3@milomilomilo

      She wasn't a child, she was 22.

      "Her father produced her birth certificate proving she was 16. Yet the judges 'decreed' she was 22."
    • robbh66, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"So before you point your fingers,
      Be sure your hands are clean."

      Before you make comments,
      Make sure they apply.

      Mistakes were made, they were corrected. What the hell does it have to do with what Iran is doing in the present?
    • CopperFalcon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@fatfinger:

      It seems that you may be committing a tu quoque fallacy. If Iran is committing atrocities, then it makes no sense to say, "well, the U.S. committed atrocities as well, so we should not condemn Iran." It does make sense to say, "well, the U.S. committed atrocities as well, so we should condemn both instances."

      Or to put it another way, let's say Alice has committed murder and Bob has committed murder. If Alice condemns Bob, it may be hypocritical, but that still does not in any way excuse Bob's crime.
    • kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"So before you point your fingers,
      Be sure your hands are clean.

      Judge not
      Before you judge yourself."

      My finger is filthy, yet appears still to be pointing at a little girl hanging from a crane, screaming for mercy. Next stop, the obvious current address of your head. There is no relativism here, no sides.. just a girl hanging from rope most likely for the crime of being raped.

      Yes, a lot of people here have already decided in their heads that the middle east just needs to be nuked, get it over with. But some of us can separate events, place blame where it belongs and tell full well the difference between hate and seeing reality for what it is.

      And how DARE you quote Bob Marley in this context. Shame on you.
    • fatfinger, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3robbh66

      "Mistakes where made?" The death of over 400 Million blacks isn't a "mistake" it is called genocide.

      milomilomilo

      you say things happen so long ago but the Civil rights movement took place during the mid 60's. We Americans were brutally killing and terrorizing blacks and whites with good morals who supported the freedom of blacks. This took place in the 60s man........."Killing children becaused they were raped is so far past the border of sane thought I can't think about it without crying". Well how about the fact that Americans sold black families including children to different slave owners? Could you imagine being ripped apart from your family and never seeing them again? Hearing about your wife being raped and your children being killed for not working?

      jayc 7
      "Yes, because events that happened in the past that we have no control over occurred, we cannot be outraged at horrible events presently happening in the world at this very moment." You're so jaded that you missed the point completely! The wrong that we do, we're so quick to forget about, however the wrong that others do to us (911) "we will never forget!"..Dont forget to say it with pride jackass..

      Its sad to say that you can't see that we are heading towards a POLICE STATE but we're going around the World saying HEY LOOK HOW WRONG THIS IS while we should be looking at the REASONS our "President select" is bankrupting our own country, while our young men and women who are serving in a illegal war are getting killed and thousands of innocent people are dying because ignorance like this!

      robbh66
      The point is, that we've been guilty of doing the same things but worst and if you think it will never happen again here, think again. Before you point your fingers at other countries..........Ask yourself is what we're doing around the world morally justified?
    • heatmiser, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Last time I checked, slavery was abolished about 1865.

      Have no idea how you come up with 60 years. Ilegal lynchings were NOT endorsed and imposed by federal law. The dumbass KKK members who did that were NOT acting under directions from federal judges.

      Please people.. for just once please stop trying to validate or justify primitive barbarism in the Middle East TODAY by bringing up examples from the PAST. Slavery (though practiced the world over) was ***** up THEN, and Sharia is still ***** up NOW.
    • NoozeHound, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No-one is urging any war - the other links to the Save Nazanin/Malak are requesting support to save the women. Other business with Iran and their nuclear enrichment program may lead to confrontation but lets be realistic - can you see Bush waging war over the death of an innocent Islamic girl?

      I don't see this as 'My God's better than your God' and only the small minded would do so. This is just plain wrong and evil and an affront to all of our human decency.

      The fact is that it is happening 'in this day and age'. The backward culture view is not an argument where they have TV, Radio, the printing press - you get my point. It's not 500 years ago, it was 2004. Video messages from suicide bombers kind of undermine that argument don't you think?

      Any society that maintains a death penalty - albeit less barbaric - should still shuffle in their seats a little uncomfortably.

  • bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Justice Iran style... I hate to play devils advocate here, but at least she got brought to trial. Nothing in US international 'law' even suggests she'd see a judge before being imprisoned indefinitely, tortured or worse.

    This has echos of the "Saddam has a foetus" or "WMDs And Terrists"

    I'm sure there are ***** up laws in other countries, just as we have ***** up beliefs that we hold the responsibilitiy for ordering our young to bomb other countries & kill civilians to "liberate them"...

    At this stage, every country has so much to apologise for that I can't imagine any of us have any time to point the finger. Don't buy into this propaganda.
  • GrayOne, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Yeah lynchings occurred in the past, but I don't remember hearing about any in 2004 and they weren't the norm.

    Trying to equate Iran to the south is sort of retarded.

    In Iran lynchings are the law. In the south it was against the law.
  • GrayOne, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3....Nothing in US international 'law' even suggests she'd see a judge before being imprisoned indefinitely, tortured or worse.

    Yeah I would much rather be lynched from a crane then fed and sheltered while be tortured with underwear and loud rap music.
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3When a JEW falls in love with a Christian he/she can go to jail in Israel.... get it.

      Morals... simple moral standards and some common sense. thats what we need not crap religions.
  • gincarnated, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11If I was religious I would thank God every day I was born no where near the ***** Middle East. That article makes me cry for humanity. Any other region on the planet and I couldn't let myself believe it was true. Most of that region except for Israel is so ass backwards it's unbelievable.

    PENALTIES imposed by Iran's religious mullahs include:

    THEF T: Amputation of hands or feet for persistent offenders.

    ADULTERY: Death by stoning.

    UNMARRIED SEX: 100 lashes.

    CONVERSION TO RELIGION OTHER THAN ISLAM: Death.

    SODOMY: Death for adults, 74 lashes for consenting child.

    LESBIANISM: 100 lashes, or on the fourth occasion death.

    HOMOSEXUAL KISS: 60 lashes.

    RUBBING ANOTHER MAN'S THIGHS OR BUTTOCKS: 99 lashes - on 4th occasion, death.
    • myh89, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4Israel is really humane. They have never killed innocent people. No those 200 Lebanese people that died. Where all a part of Hezbollah. The entire Middle East is ***** up. And we aren't helping any by bombing it to oblivion.
    • maiku00, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11At least Israel dosnt kill girls for being raped.
    • abid786, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Yeah.... it kills for them for no reason at all...
    • blackjack75, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"At least Israel dosnt kill girls for being raped."

      No actually the punishment according to the old covenant, a.k.a. the jewish bible is to force the girl to marry the guy who raped her. Again, hopefully they don't apply the Bible law in Israel.

      The positive aspects of Israel is especially when they do NOT apply any religious rule .
  • Elitegamer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This is very sad and disgusts me to know they can actually do this over there.
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2earth to elitegamer... get from behind your console a little more.....this news is older then jesus.
  • fronta1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6if anyone wants to join me in kicking this guys ass, let me know
    suck my ***** Haji Rezaii
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1you need some stones? oh wait... dubblespeak! *****
  • milomilomilo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2@xuxox

    Well I think I'll just go kill some babies as long as I decree that they're really 50 than Im killing adults.
    But, I'll indulge you.
    I think it's wrong to kill grown women simply for being raped as well.
    *gasp*
    • xoxuxox, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'm glad that digg isn't based on Sharia law. I wonder what the penalty would be for sarcasm?
  • Kardde, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11More wacky antics from the religion of peace.
  • flyingmushroom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8If anyone feels motivated to do something about this sort of thing (more than just type a few words in an online forum), here's a couple of important links:

    http://www.amnesty.org/actnow/
    http://web.amnesty.org/pages/join-eng
    • Kardde, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11It would be great if Amnesty International could do something about it, but these fanatics believe they are 100% correct and that they are fully supported by their god. It's unfortunate that they're still stuck in the 7th century while the rest of the religions in the world have evolved with modern times.

      And, more unfortunately, all of the logical and sane people in those countries (of which I'm sure make up the majority) are absolutely terrified to make a stand. It's the people in power, as well as their religious leaders, that are enforcing these absurd medieval and barbaric laws. In other words, the people with all the money and, more importantly, all the guns. These people cannot be reasoned with because, as I said before, they believe they are fully justified. And if another country were to come in and help? They'd be cheered as liberators to their face, and spat at as conquerors behind their backs.

      I'll probably be dugg down for this, but I think the number one threat to the planet, besides global warming, are religious fanatics, which tend to sway in the Muslim direction. Note that I said fanatics, as I'm not stupid enough to stereotype the billions of Muslims on the planet. It's just a shame that it's gotten to the point where those fanatics were able to put themselves into a position of power.

      Frankly, the world would be much better off without religion. It's a concept that's about 600 years past its prime, and the world no longer needs it.
  • nicksoni, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i would like to think that i can make a difference in this world, but reading and knowing things like this makes it seem like i cant.

    and thats just sad.
  • kindrobot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Submission is not peace.
  • gtvwill, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Could someone possibly get a copy of the documentary which is going to be showed on BBC2 this Thursday and torrent it? This would be really interesting to see and well i don't have BBC2 since i live in Australia so yeah it would be great if someone could get a copy of that up. And post back here.
  • rogueman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Be careful, be very careful about what you feel! This comes up at a point where everything suggests an American war with Iran, and maybe more then that. Lots of people will have fates worse then hanging from a crane if another war starts. That's not a metaphor, it's the truth. And I'm writing this while feeling something around my neck.
  • Burritovision, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0the proper sentence might have been to have them married. or to give the woman and man both mental health treatment.
  • abxy, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0The culture over there is different from the culture over here.

    Now i'm not happy that the young girl died, but really, everyone here needs to understand that they attempt to follow the law of God to best of *their* understanding. Over there, the punishment for adultery (with the exception of rape) is death, simple as that, no excuses.

    And as brutal as that may seem, especially when we're in a society that often times promotes morally degrading things like adultery as being "ok," you have to understand that the girl _did_ know for the better part of her life that what she was doing was punishable by death.

    When you know all your life that you'd die for committing a particular crime, you would find it hard to even dare think the thoughts, let alone perform the act. And yet she did this anyway. No matter the punishment, when you know something is against the law and you do it anyway, you're obliged to accept the consequences of breaking that law as well.

    Please understand that Islam is not some terrible religion, the laws are just very strict, and over there they are enforced strictly. I'm not saying that they don't suffer from sexism and brutality and inhumane treatment of women, they do. And I'm not saying I agree with the punishment. Nevertheless, this is not a human interest story, this is the case of someone consciously going against the law of the land over there and facing that land's form of punishment for it.
    • xoxuxox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Nymphomania notwithstanding.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nymphomaniacs
    • theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10*****, its actually extremely debatable weather Islam calls for this kind of thing. Respect other cultures yes but really, when it comes to brutally murdering people, ***** THAT, this is the 21st century and people that dont want to join it can go screw themselves, just like George Bush can screw himself.

      This reminds me of the South Park with NAMBLA and at the end the pedophile is making a heart-felt speech about how hes learnt his lesson but at the same time all he wanted to do was to love a boy and is that so bad - and then Kyle stops him and says "DUDE! YOU HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN, Im all for respect but dude seriously, ***** you!"

      This is the same principle - respect others yes! But dude, they are ***** murdering people and hacking off limbs for ***** sake we have to look at this kind of culture as inferior and treat them like the little children they are and say "NO, thats a bad, you're a naughty boy!"

      The fact is the Bible 'appears' to condone similar actions as the Koran, but you dont hear anyone saying we should respect American Christians who call for this - in America they are considered a fringe group on par with the KKK and thats exactly how the Islamic equivalent should be seen. In fact this is a completely ***** interpretation of these books and we need to stop respecting people who follow these interpretations no matter if they are Muslim, Christian, Jewish or whatever, Islam happens to have its own crisis at the moment but the principle remains the same for all beliefs: you do not act like ***** savages, this should not be respected or encouraged and we should be working to remove this sickness from the 21st century.
    • theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1***** the prat who modded me down.
  • EAMUS1CATULI, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1So i take it it would be ok if she had sex with a married man....WTF!!
    • xoxuxox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, the judge wouldn't have bothered with a crane and just held up the rope himself.
  • manicleek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Wait a minute!!

    This article is in the Sunday Mirror!

    I'm not saying it isn't true, but it's most likely exagerrated in someway. The Sunday Mirror is one of the biggest pieces of ***** reporting on British newspaper stands.
  • axeland, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0i really feel pity for the gal. The government only wanted to show their power that they can do what they feel is right "by setting a example".
  • Armada1492, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1what can you expect from the religion of puss?
    • abid786, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2hahahahh you are so funnyyyy!!!!!111!!!one!!11
  • optimuscrime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I feel like I've been saying this too often lately.

    I hate humans.
  • Yorenn, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5Signaled as SPAM.
    Atefeh Rajabi was sentenced to death in... 2004.

    See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefeh_Rajabi

    This is clearly meant to induce hatred against Iran. Right time, right place.

    Wrong audience.
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1good find... you point out exactly how it works! but hey all they got is Fox and CNN, who could blame them. When the Comedy Central provides the nation with the only 'realistic' news you know how in deep ***** you are.... or not. ;p
  • j0ker666, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3I'm actually half iranian and the way the media shows Iran is always as a ***** hole and just full of barbarians. I'm sure some of you should realise that this is total rubbish!!!
    Yeah a lot of the goverment officials and mullahs are corrupt, but you can hardly say that people like George Bush arn't corrupt as well.
    The actual people in Iran are some of the nicest in the world , I live in England and the people in Iran are soooo much nicer and more polite than here! Before you start so much criticism I think you should try and learn about what it actually is like over there, not whats just show in the media!
    • gincarnated, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7When I start hearing about the British courts hanging jailing and hanging minors for no real reason you might have a point. Until then...
    • theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Thats very true, Iranians are really nice people the problem in Iran is rednecks and the conservative government, the situation is exactly like the US except in the Iranian system the mullahs have complete control over who even runs for office which leads to people like the current leader. Out of all the countries in the Middle East Iran probably has the most potential, the most intelligent people etc. Our supposed 'allies' like Saudi Arabia are 10 times worse than this and are full of retards. For examlple, Saudi bans all cinema, Iran actually has a film industry.
    • Yorenn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1@gincaranted : "When I start hearing about the British courts hanging jailing and hanging minors for no real reason you might have a point. Until then..."
      Our Occidental World has its glitches too. "Sodomy rules" by which sodomy was illegal in some US states have been invalidated in... 2003.
      In 2002 here in France Jean-Marie Le Pen, an openly racist right-wing representative, made it to the 2nd turn of the presidential.
      I am not living in Eden.

      We all share the same horizon, and the somehow same imperfections.
      In some countries they still rule. I feel sorry for their inhabitants, and I have NOTHING against THEM.
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3GITMO!
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Gitmo... Gitmo.... Lalalala, Gitmo!
    • zombo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If its so ***** fabulous why don't you go back there? I'm sure folk in England won't shed a tear over your departure.
  • star, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6In other news...

    "George W. Bush during his six years as governor of Texas presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States."

    George W. Bush:
    The Death Penalty Governor
    http://www.commondreams.org/views/020900-105.htm

    Death in Texas
    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/17670

    George W. Bush: My Resumé
    http://cronus.com/bushresume/

    BUSH FAMILY MACHINATIONS, 1918-2000
    http://www.bushwatch.com/family.htm
    • Smoove, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Wow, he sure killed a lot of rape victims! Oh, wait. Nevermind.
  • EvoldicA, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3You are all a bunch of suckers.. sucking on the tit of corrupt American propaganda ala news media.. Nothing is more biased.. You know how many people influence what you are allowed to know, and how it's shown to you?
    • zombo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4My tit of American propaganda sure tests better than the sandy islamofascist ***** you've so obviously got your lips around.
  • pathfinder2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I love the hypocritical Americans on this site. Here in Europe we're civilised enough to have abolished capital punishment, unlike the US and Iran.
  • maledei, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2The theocratic regime in iran also repeatedly hangs gay men and teenagers:
    http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2006/06/global_protests.html

    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4If Bush where allowed he would do the same.
  • GhengisKhan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Bunch of freakin' savages.
  • dliberty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I wonder what all the idiots on digg that claim countries like Iran is a democracy have to say now...
  • VeryBoredNow, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2I can not belive the criticizm of Islam.

    By judging muslims by these barbaric acts is like me judging Christians by the acts of the KKK.

    This is for all you who chose to comment without reading the article. You dumbasses.

    "as the crowd sobbed and - under their breath - damned the mullahs."
    ^^^^ OHH THOSE SAVAGES !


    Maybe, just MAYBE those people have no choice but to live with the leadership that they were born into, and if they were to speak up it would be their kids hanging from those cranes. (see North Korea)
    • moracity, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Were you just born an idiot? The KKK has nothing to do with Christianity, you ignorant toadstool. Last time I checked, Catholics were Christian. Catholics are/were as reviled by the KKK as blacks and Jews (Kikes, Kooks, Katholics). This is basic stuff, man. I am so sick of ignorant sycophants like you spreading your *****. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

      Maybe you need to go back and read the Koran and tell me where it preaches tolerance. Islam does not recognize the existence or accomplishments of anyone who lived before Mohammed. It also does not recognize the right of non-Muslims to live. What people were muttering under their breath is irrelevant. It is the LEADERS of Islam that speak for the religion. Those who don't speak up to voice their dissent are just as guilty as the judge who put the noose around this girls neck. That is the biggest problem with Islam right now. The only Muslims willing to die for their beliefs are terrorists. The rest of them just sit back and let it happen. If people aren't willing to fight for their freedom, they don't deserve our help. It's hard for me to have sympathy for people who let themselves live in fear of a handful of lunatics. This is one of the things that make the U.S great. We can disagree and crtiticize our leaders without the fear of being hung from a crane.
    • nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2We'll know if you're right by their reaction when we liberate them.
    • spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Shiites hate the Sunnis and they're both Muslim. The Catholic Church persecuted Protestants and they're both Christian. It's been done before, and it's happening again. History does repeat itself.
  • rimz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6it is just so sad to see that a young girl was trying to protect her own life and yet there is no care for her, instead they sentence her to death for protecting her own life? this is just another inhuman and barbaric move of the islamic regime of iran, this government needs to be tarnished, cease to exsist, my fellow iranians need freedom like many of you people which live in america, uk and other countries, you see, you can come on these sites and say whatever you feel about the government or you can even have protest against the bush administration without being killed but in Iran if you speak one word against the 'Regim of God' (as they state it) then you will be taken away and never heard from again, just recently a freedom fighter in Iran Amir Reza Fahkavar (not sure if rigth spelling) has fled from Iran and has come to the United States of America and has spoken of his long torture and how ill treated he was. they told him many times in prison how they raped his mother and killed his family so that he would sign documents saying that he had committed a crime which he never heard of before. He is now fighting for freedom for Iran in America and he is gathering Iranians to unite and topple the Iranian regime, as this is an american populated site but i just understand the points i am tryin to cross to you, please take more awareness in the Iranian nuclear enrichment, contribute to the freedom of my home land, Iran.
  • jnosanov, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4It's a good thing the U.S. isn't run by religious extremists! Oh, wait, damn.
    • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1ahh crap nooooo! besides Bush is so drugged lately I guess he must feel like a god.
    • sonofdy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1It isn't.
  • dirtylobster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Makes me wonder how much of the world you can actually call civilized...
    • zombo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just about anywhere without a muslim majority.
  • taylorhayward, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4100 executions a year? They've got a lot of catching up to do to beat Texas.
  • themacx, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2so is using 1250 pound bombs or bullets morally better then?
  • nanobug, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Religion is a mental disease. It has to be. Otherwise, how would one explain the horrible things some people do in the name of religion?
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