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- Salesti, on 09/16/2008, -4/+25I guess it's just not the "in" thing to do -- pointing out what non-Israelis do with their weapons.
Pffffft. - inactive, on 09/16/2008, -4/+13Hamas battling "dogmush" clan, sounds like a very sad family feud.
- writie, on 09/17/2008, -0/+8If you read the article, you'd learn that this is the clan connected with the kidnapping of the BBC journalist Johnson and, reputedly, Gilad Shalit. They also attacked Christian institutions. They are, in effect, a major thorn in everyone's side - including Israel's.
- foopirata, on 09/18/2008, -1/+8Gaza City doesn't have sewers. If "young men have nothing to do" employ them into building them. They'll get a good wage for an honest day of work, and the populace will get a decent sewage system. You know, like a real government does.
But no, employing them in the "security forces" is so much better, uh? Everybody wins! And of course, it's all Israel's fault. - Salesti, on 09/18/2008, -1/+7Exactly!
And what does that eternally-faulted civilization do for these creatures? Hmmmm.....things like supplying them with all the materials they need to BUILD that sewage system. What rotten people those Israelis must be, helping out like that! No wonder the freaks (recipients) took all those materials, built bombs with it and launched it all back into Israel What are they supposed to do, actually construct a sanitary sewage treatment system? Apparently, they preferred to wait till their crap literally and physically swamped and killed their own people. Real freakin' smart. And, as you've pointed out, it MUST have ...somehow.... been Israel's fault.
:P - inactive, on 09/17/2008, -6/+11this is very sad news...but what do you expect in a prison camp filled with angry oppressed people who have no hope for a normal life...just like in prison or politics, the most ruthless self serving individuals are the ones who end up running the show...it's good to be King...just like in the ghettos here in the U.S. ...oppression ,desperation and poverty will discourage any cohesiveness and eventually lead to a cycle of self destruction..im sure that you Zionist's hope Palestine will turn into another Rwanda....divide and conquer...what i don't understand is that Foo emphasizes in his description of this sub "where's the indignation? where's the clamoring? the accusations of genocide?"...you guys can always justify innocents murder if the IOF is involved..talk about double standard...you guys have no shame...just an agenda...
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -1/+6RightHand -
If only ...
(1) you could make a point without reverting to name-calling (i.e., sleeveen, *****, *****, child)
(2) you stopped harping on irrelevant points that have nothing to do with the article at hand but are thrown in to show what an "anti-Zionist" you are
(3) you stopped mocking people for their religion
(4) you directly answered questions without going off on tangents
(5) you stopped harping on people's "blood"/ethnicity/race to the extent that you said that Arabs, Scots and Welsh were separate races
(6) you realized that the content of a man's character was more important than race/ethnicity
(7) you stopped relying on the Israeli press to prove your point that Israel was a dictatorship
(8) you stopped saying that Jews that don't meet your standards aren't "good Jews"
(9) you stopped defining what groups that you are not a member of thing (i.e., Arab women)
(10) you stopped making fun of "18th century garb" and "Bin Laden-type beards"
(11) you stopped referring to Jewish women as "Jewesses" and then saying that you do it to express your respect for those that have to bear the "burden" of giving birth to Jews
(12) you stopped your claim to "mutual friends" to people who have repeatedly asked you to get out of their friends/fan list
(13) you stopped making remarks about "circumcised penises" and "eunuchs" and "third types" and on and on and on
(14) you stopped making things up about blackmail attempts
(15) you stopped using "blunderbuss attacks" on people, lumping individuals in with groups
(16) you stopped ridiculous things like citing Amy Winehouse to show how bigoted Jews are
(17) you stopped talking about "the dark side", the conspirators, dual- or triple-loyalty, the Mossad, etc.
and on and on and on in a similar vein,
perhaps people would take you seriously.
Now, once again, Rob: answer these questions:
(1) Other than Israel, how many other countries in that region have such hallmarks of a civil society as: 1) free trade union movements; 2) democratic elections with opposition parties that sit in the parliament; 3) freedom of speech; 4) religious freedom; 5) women that can vote (in Saudi Arabia, they can't even drive cars); 6) a gay rights movement (in the Gaza Strip, homosexuals are routinely tortured -- one of the big population movements in the Palestine Authority are homosexuals sneaking into Israel where they have much more freedom); etc.?
(2) Can you name two countries/societies in the entire Middle East that you would like Israel to more closely resemble?
(3) Is the Hebrew Bible (aka “Old Testament”) is THE terrorist book on which the Muslim and Christian faiths sprung?
Perhaps the reason that people consider you an anti-Semitic, ridiculous laughing stock and the butt of jokes is that it is hard to view you otherwise based on what you, yourself have written and said.
It is almost impossible to have a coherent, intelligent dialogue with you, and this has nothing to do with any disabilities. It is because you are blinded by your hate of things that you have absolutely no understanding of and your disregard that blood is shed by the things that you advocate. Looking at some of the stuff you write is like looking into a toilet that hasn't been flushed.
Have a nice day, you deserve it
Hersch - zolthar, on 09/17/2008, -6/+10short summary:
blah blah blah, use the usual slogans to put the blame on Israel, what really goes on there is irrelevant, blah blah. - DreadPirate, on 09/18/2008, -1/+5If the Palestinians spent half of the money that they are given each year on civil projects rather than weapons, this wouldn't happen. Instead they take any pipes they get their hands on and turn them into bombs and rockets. But of course minor facts like that don't matter to an idiot like you. Only the evil Israelis can be at fault for anything!
- monsieurginger, on 09/17/2008, -2/+6I was waiting till someone was gonna blame Israel for this.
- monsieurginger, on 09/17/2008, -2/+6"contributes nothing"
... and what have you contributed? The number of stories one submits does not equal someone's level of contribution. I submitted quality articles. You guys are one of my hobbies... you know ... making fun of your(not your's individually, but those including 911ArtStudent and friends) worldview.
"does mum born in Tunisia make him French?"
My mom and her parent didn't have french citizenship till they moved to France. Why wouldn't the Tunisians give my family Tunisian citizenship? Hmmmm... I wonder why.
"Secular kibbutz? Does he believe?"
What's the question? Believe what?
It's kinda creepy how you have my profile on clipmarks.
"Keep up with the class"
I was just wondering. You didn't even answer the question. - DreadPirate, on 09/18/2008, -1/+5What is it? You're not taken seriously so you have go around threads pasting the same damn story? You want that article to show up on digg, submit it. Stop this retarded C&P of the entire story.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+5lol, imagine him trying to compose something in his own words. I think i'll take the C&P
- monsieurginger, on 09/17/2008, -2/+6How did this even get started? You should tend more to your grandkids. Just wondering, since you are so anti-religion, do you give your grandkids Christmas gifts? Or is it not a Christian holiday anymore?
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+5RightHand, you should research how the People's Republic of China collected human feces and used it for agricultural fertilizer. There is no need to dump sewage into the ocean. There had to have been at least one sewage treatment plant in the entire Gaza Strip, wouldn't you think so?
Don't you know that when the Israelis evacuated the Gaza strip, they left houses and greenhouses and thriving farms intact? And what happened? They were destroyed! Some residents of the area (note that I am not saying THE Arabs or THE Palestinians, but SOME) chose to burn them down so that anything left behind by Jews wouldn't benefit them. - urik88, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4RightHand, 4 long articles and you still fail to explain why the Palestinians don't use their aid money to build a sewage system instead of buying AK-47's.
- urik88, on 09/18/2008, -1/+4And obviously, Israel is the one to blame for the Illuminatis.
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -4/+7you are a sick individual Michael...you win the ***** comment of the week award...
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -2/+5Markus - I am unfamiliar with the term IOF. Please explain
- monsieurginger, on 09/17/2008, -5/+8It's always Israel's fault. Didn't you know? When scores of Lebanese die because of infighting, it's Israel's fault. When an American embassy blows up in Yemen, it's Israel's fault. When Fatah and Hamas fight for who know's what, it's Israel's fault. The Illuminati is responsible for all the world's wars.
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -1/+4quarkie - Thanks for the explation. That's probably it.
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -3/+6and btw, i've met actual neo-nazis before and enjoyed picking their brains.
you.. you lack anything to pick. - monsieurginger, on 09/17/2008, -1/+4Everybody is welcomed to my bar mitzvah. Even my Irish grandpa.
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -1/+4What does this have to do with the article or any of the comments in this thread?
- urik88, on 09/18/2008, -0/+3bernk1, are you seriously expecting RightHand to read something that doesn't fit his interests?
RightHand is the new yellowcakewalk. Only worse, since he doesn't even answer and has no shame. - inactive, on 09/17/2008, -2/+5RightHand - where did you learn this stuff, at the Friends of Oswald Mosley meetings? I am sure that my other half will be checking in with you soon. Rob, give it a rest. Take up a hobby such as golf.
Hersch - monsieurginger, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3mashi, haevrit shelcha lo yoter tov mimeni. naladiti be israel. lech lehizdayen... I mean that in a good way... go have sexy time.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3RightHand - please, I am trying to understand and follow you. I have "R E A D C A R E F U L L Y" -- "W H A T W O R D S D O N ' T U N D E R S T A N D" doesn't apply here. I understand all the words but I don't understand your meaning. You are being way too vague. I'm sorry, but I have been taught to leave no ambiguities in order to communicate and to understand.
Please explain without vague generalities. Please be specific. No trickery here on my part, I want to know the facts.
(1) "... the Zionist assassinated the Zionist, Wilenchik...." Which Zionist assassinated him. What is his name?
(2) "He'd been a prime member of a Zionist terrorist gang...." What does "prime member" mean? Chairman, regional chairman, vice-chairman. Sorry, but "prime member" doesn't pass muster. And what is the name of that terrorist gang? I mean, weren't there a lot of them?
(3) "Zionists reported that he said he would not continue as a killer in the terrorist gang..." Which Zionists reported this? Names, please.
Rob, let's be fair now. Seriously, would you accept this charge if I made it: "The Episcopalian assassinated the Zionist, Wilenchik.... He'd been a prime member of a Episcopalian terrorist gang.... Episcopalians reported that he said he would not continue as a killer in the terrorist gang..." [DISCLAIMER: This is in no way a condemnation of Episcopalians. I know many Episcopalians and they are fine people. The use of the term "Episcopalian" was only used as an example.] - inactive, on 09/17/2008, -3/+5Prison? With 70 kilometers of Mediterranean beach? Sign me up yo! Jah, Rastafarite!
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -3/+5Just goes to show you that people will digg you up no matter what you type in this box. Yes, I'm a coward for not wanting to rub shoulders with a moonbat neo-nazi who gives us liberals a bad name. amazing insight.
So, you, the "radical liberal" and the person who "despises zionists" accuse me of hatred? You won't impress me with your exploits.
So you've smoked pot with a few dreads. Wow. I've lived in the middle east for the past two years watching conspiracy theorist troofer nuts like yourself criticize policy from afar. I don't know how many suppers I've spent on the floor of some bedouin family's living room eating rice out of a bowl with grandpa wondering "why can't everybody be as accepting as these folks? They even speak hebrew"
congratulations. you are the first self-hating Jew ever to live. Maybe we should switch spots? you like catholocism there pseudo-hippy? It's like a skinhead that smells of B.O. and patchouli oil haha. - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3RightHand - thanks for the clarification on Case No. 37.
What are these, citations? If so, can you refer to what work, and what volume. This is SO confusing: Niv, vol. 3:196 Resnik 1986:179 Okev (1949:9-10) / (Okev 1949:9) / Okev (1949:10) S.T.H. (vol. 3, part 1:506). How can one look these things up without your naming the book. Also, how can one research "S.T.H."?
So, in other words, this may be a case of an underground pseudo-army executing what they perceived to be a traitor in the time of war (such as the underground struggle against the British). That's what Resnik and Niv seem to say, though Okev differs. Do any of these works refer to any internal court-martial proceedings and Lehi's courts-martial procedures?
I do not understand: "Wilenchik apparently took a neutral position and may have to leave Lehi for his release."
With what branch of Lechi was Wilenchik aligned? Was it the "right wing" of Lechi, or the "left wing"? And if it was the "left wing," was it that faction which sought the establishment of a dictatorship of the proletariat? Could this have been a faction fight?
Again you refer to case no. 75. How can I refer to it? I have yet to see cases no. 39-74. Should these cases be read sequentially?
Are you saying that "Once bitten, twice shy" is a Lechi motto?
Once again, Rob, thanks for the clarification on Case No. 37.
Hersch Lieb, etc. - inactive, on 09/17/2008, -1/+3RightHand -
to clarify
If only ...
(9) you stopped defining what groups that you are not a member of thing (i.e., Arab women) think or would prefer or like
(12) you stopped your claim to be "mutual friends" to people who have repeatedly asked you to get out of their friends/fan list
Hersch - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3Yes, end the occupation of British Mandate Palestine.. by stabbing 9 year olds, sniping babies out of their prams, strapping bombs to ourselves and entering the souq and commandeering bulldozers to bumbrush mid-day traffic and ambush people sitting in their vehicles. makes sense...
just like the Jews did when they were occupied by the Birtish, but righthand clearly doesn't think it RIGHT for them to have resisted. - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3RightHand - sorry to have been so short a few minutes ago. I had to interrupt my communication with you to deal with a small emergency. But all is over and all is well.
Look, the key to communication is precision. That way we are speaking the same language and can understand one another. Actually, I said what had to be said, but just keep in mind that it is important to stop the blunderbuss attacks and hone in on the details. I think that you will find that we have quite a few more areas of agreement than areas of disagreement. Perhaps a bit more civility is in order -- maybe on both sides?
And as to "the child" -- I don't control him. You know the old song, "Kids, what's the matter with kids today."
Cheers. - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3Oh. Now I see. These cases are from the book. You really never said that. You had led me to believe that these were YOUR assassination files. You read that?
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3I cannot follow this at all. It is hard to untangle the web of "Zionist" here. I think it would be helpful if you labelled them with numbers of letters of names. Come on, can you follow this: "... the Zionist assassinated the Zionist, Wilenchik.... He'd been a prime member of a Zionist terrorist gang.... Zionists reported that he said he would not continue as a killer in the terrorist gang..." I mean, which Zionist assassnated Wilenchik? What Zionist terrorist gang (I mean, you would have us believe there were lots of them)? Which Zionists reported what he would do?
I never knew that about Lehi's slogan. Are you sure you aren't confusing Lechi with HaIrgun?
And what is this about your referral to Case No. 75? I mean, this is only Case No. 37 -- where are the other 38? - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2Urik - Actually, Mr. Right does read the questions we of "the rat pack" pose to him. I tip the hat to him for that. It's just that he doesn't really answer the questions, except by posting another puzzle. I think you should address your inquiries to him.
- monsieurginger, on 09/17/2008, -1/+3Grandpa, look at my favorites and submitted articles. Those are some of my views and articles that express my opinions, though not necessarily.
Since most of what we talk about is Israel, in the sphere of Israeli politics, I consider myself a left-wing/liberal Labor. In American politics I'm a liberal Democrat.
When I was young living on the kibbutz, I believed that Israelis and Palestinians could live together. The lion and the lamb sleeping together. But then Hamas got elected, and then I read the Hamas charter. I'm still a left wing liberal but two states is the only solution.
and Hersch isn't I, or I am not him - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3RightHand -- So just where can someone see these cases?
"King Rat" - good book by James Clavell, I believe. It was a good movie too, with George Segal.
By-the-by (or, as we members of "the rat pack" would say, derech agav) - who was it that said something like, "A child would lead them." Was that Yeshua ben-Yosef? I'm not sure. - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+3lol @ fang
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -0/+2RightHand, you should research how the People's Republic of China collected human feces and used it for agricultural fertilizer. There is no need to dump sewage into the ocean. There had to have been at least one sewage treatment plant in the entire Gaza Strip, wouldn't you think so?
Don't you know that when the Israelis evacuated the Gaza strip, they left houses and greenhouses and thriving farms intact? And what happened? They were destroyed! Some residents of the area (note that I am not saying THE Arabs or THE Palestinians, but SOME) chose to destroy them so that anything left behind by Jews wouldn't benefit them.
I posted this elsewhere in the comments to this story, didn't you read it? If you can cut-and-paste, then so can others. - inactive, on 09/20/2008, -1/+2writie has proviided information from Electronic Intifada: (quoting from his comment) "In 1967 the population of Gaza was 380,000 though now it is nearly 1.5 million, according to the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics." Regardless of any other points that could be made about Israeli treatment, this certainly does not sound like a policy of ethnic cleansing or of genocide.
- inactive, on 09/17/2008, -6/+7Campaign: End Israeli Assassination Policy Now!
http://www.pflp.ps/english/?q=campaign-end-israeli ...
From the earliest days of the Zionist project, assassination has always been a mechanism both for depriving the Palestinian people of their leaders and activists, and sending a message to future potential leaders and activists that the path of resistance leads to assassination, and for promoting concessions and collaboration with Zionism as an alternative. Israel has sought to present three alternatives to Palestinians: assassination, imprisonment, or concessions. Much as Israel relies heavily on its over $3 billion in annual support from the US, and much as the US relies on its strategic alliance with the Zionist colonial-settler state in order to extend its influence and present a constant and ever-present threat and settler presence against the Arab nation, Israeli assassinations are financed and armed by the US. Increasingly, the Israeli assassination policy has relied on US-made missiles shot from US-made helicopters in the sky in order to carry out its deadly policy,.
Standard practice for Zionist to hire tugs to do its dirty work. - quarkie, on 09/17/2008, -5/+6Israel Offense Force, rather than Israel Defence Force.
Basically he's blaming Israel for the violence, because when ever anything goes bad in the middle east its Israel's fault. - inactive, on 09/17/2008, -2/+3Mons -- you are going on 13? Mazel tov! How's the Haftorah coming? What would you like for a Bar Mitzvah present? A new streimel, some nice tzitzit perhaps? Are you going to give Rig an aliya? Please, let me sit at his table at the reception.
Zei gesunt,
Hersch Lieb Mendel Menachem Reuven Shimon Leyvi Yudah Zvulun Issachar Dan Gad Asher Naftali Yosef Benyamin Groucho Chico Harpo Zeppo Gummo Yitzchak Shmuel Baruch Mottle Tevye Moishe David Amos Vladimir Ilych Boris Karl Pinchas Larry Moe Curly Rivkele Bernkovskachinskovitzbergerblattbaumeineneurenbergerbrattwurstchenbittemeineliebling - monsieurginger, on 09/17/2008, -2/+3how was my comment offensive?
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -1/+2What is it here?
LOL you are a Jew and my Hebrew is probably waaay better than yours. - inactive, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3RIghtHand - Sorry, but I could not see the connection. I await the promised additions to your list of characteristics of myself. Please teach me some new Irish slang. I'll see if I can give you some lessons in Yiddish or Hebrew or maybe even German. Spanish perhaps?
Hey, what about that Tzippi Livni, hot stuff, huh? Oooh, la la!
Nighty night. Sleep tight.
Hersch Lieb Mendel Menachem Reuven Shimon Leyvi Yudah Zvulun Issachar Dan Gad Asher Naftali Yosef Benyamin Groucho Chico Harpo Zeppo Gummo Yitzchak Shmuel Baruch Mottle Tevye Moishe David Amos Vladimir Ilych Boris Karl Pinchas Larry Moe Curly Rivkele Bernkovskachinskovitzbergerblattbaumeineneurenbergerbrattwurstchenbittemeineliebling - monsieurginger, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3You got to stop creating so many hurricanes. It messes up with my telecommunication and media monopoly.
- inactive, on 09/18/2008, -2/+3I loled.
megaphone or mega-beanie? -
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