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Hacker gets 3 years over fake 911 call which sent SWAT team
seattletimes.nwsource.com — A Mukilteo man has been sentenced to three years in a California prison for tricking 911 dispatchers into sending a SWAT team to the Orange County home of a randomly selected family.
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- gamingspartan, on 03/29/2008, -8/+13Wow I remember reading this story 5 months ago guess SWATing in Lake Forest really make the police vindictive. One less millions more to go ;)
- banthis, on 03/29/2008, -11/+2Damn, and I was thinking 'bout doing something like this for my senior prank..
crap..- manitoba98xp, on 03/29/2008, -2/+14I don't mean to sound like a parent, but diverting vital public resources endangers the public safety, as well as terrorizing a (probably) innocent household for no legitimate reason. That's not a prank, that's a crime.
- kcmedic, on 03/29/2008, -0/+11It's also a good way for someone to be killed. It's good that they didn't think he was coming at them with the knife and end up killing the poor guy all because of some douchebag.
- manitoba98xp, on 03/29/2008, -2/+14I don't mean to sound like a parent, but diverting vital public resources endangers the public safety, as well as terrorizing a (probably) innocent household for no legitimate reason. That's not a prank, that's a crime.
- Awspire, on 03/29/2008, -1/+18"guess SWATing in Lake Forest really make the police vindictive."
Vindictive? The dumb ass initiating this piece o' ***** prank nearly got an innocent family killed! The ***** should have been tried for attempted man slaughter. If there ever is a need to call a person a terrorist, this situation fits it perfectly. Glad to see the police actually tracked him down.- rossisdead, on 03/29/2008, -7/+1Where in the article does it say the family was almost killed? Nowhere. Does it make it any less of a ***** up thing to do? No. However, don't blow things out of proportion.
- pyro789x, on 03/29/2008, -1/+7How about the fact that it's a bad idea to come at a SWAT team trying to break into your house with a knife when they think you just murdered somebody and are threatening to kill again.
- StGhurka, on 03/29/2008, -3/+3"Where in the article does it say the family was almost killed?"
Didn't read TFA, but the OC Register has that part...
"Thinking that a prowler was roaming his back yard, a resident of the home, identified only as Doug B. in the district attorney’s complaint filed in court, walked outside with a kitchen knife as SWAT officers from the Orange County Sheriff’s Department waited with assault rifles."
http://www.ocregister.com/news/home-emami-county-1 ...
He could easily have gotten shot. Whether or not that was a smart thing to do, the blame falls on the ***** that made the prank call.
- gamingspartan, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1Indeed it does bring up the point that it was dangerous but I am a pizza faced teen that plays CS all day therefor it's funny ;) although I do have to say it is unfortunate for that family, hmmm but if I remember correctly a major reason why the police almost shot the man was because he didnt speak english and did not respond to shouts "Police" (which is a world known word) they even shouted POLICIA as well which really makes me wonder.
- rossisdead, on 03/29/2008, -7/+1Where in the article does it say the family was almost killed? Nowhere. Does it make it any less of a ***** up thing to do? No. However, don't blow things out of proportion.
- CoolWind, on 03/29/2008, -12/+1Too bad the judge didn't have a sense of humor.
- JimintheOC, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1I bet his scrawny, pencil neck little ass gets “SWATed” by his bunk mate….
- banthis, on 03/29/2008, -11/+2Damn, and I was thinking 'bout doing something like this for my senior prank..
- jggube, on 03/29/2008, -3/+22Obviously failed to take Computer Science III
- implied, on 03/29/2008, -4/+92Good. And he is not a hacker.
"Hacking in to the phones" .. Yeah... buying a caller id spoofing service is hacking.- ElAssoWipo, on 03/29/2008, -0/+62That's nothing, I hacked some .wmv file with my media player and a movie showed up.
- AZNL473ncy, on 03/29/2008, -5/+41Actually it's called phreaking.
- antipaul, on 03/29/2008, -2/+22No it's not. Phreaking requires talent. This required a credit card or a Paypal account.
- quelcertoleo, on 03/29/2008, -1/+23Journalists never understood the meaning of "hacker"...never.
- SigmaDraconis, on 03/29/2008, -0/+5But that would imply that said journalists are concerned with giving readers the correct definition of the word.
- solid12345, on 03/29/2008, -2/+2What I don't get is why are we supposed to treat "hackers" like some kind of respectable talent If it wasn't for these douchebags in the first place there would be no need for routers, firewalls, virus programs, and the like.
- quelcertoleo, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1You'd still need keys to close your house however.
- identitymatrix, on 03/29/2008, -1/+2These days the media throws about the word 'hacker' like its nothing. Basically if you can turn on a computer or make a phone call, the media labels you a hacker.
The actual article has virtually no information about how this could have happened in the first place. Why are the authorities relying on caller ID, which is trivial to spoof, when they have had access to ANI long before called ID was invented? Even if the caller caused an ANI fail (though its not mentioned in the article and not as easy to do as spoofing caller ID), the police should have still brought along a plain-clothes police officer and pretended to deliver pizza before busting in the door.
Don't get me wrong I hope the prankster gets sent to prison, wasting police resources and endangering peoples lives is not a joke.
Anyway since the article lacks any technical detail whatsoever, here's an informative page on caller ID spoofing:
http://www.docdroppers.org/wiki/index.php?title=AN ... - t3rmv3locity, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1He didn't even use skype?...jesus what a n00b..
- trestevenson, on 03/29/2008, -11/+8Was it worth it?
- joshmoney, on 03/29/2008, -2/+8Let me work it. I put my thang down, flip it and reverse it.
- onetimer, on 03/29/2008, -11/+92"Ellis was arrested last year after hacking into a telephone network and impersonating a caller from a Lake Forest home, saying he had murdered someone in the house and was threatening to shoot others."
Good. I hope the little ***** doesn't get out on parole, either. Not only does this kind of ***** waste the time of law enforcement (when they could be responding to a REAL danger), but the innocent guy could have been seriously injured by the sudden, unexpected SWAT raid. Three years is the LEAST they could have done.- R4dio, on 03/29/2008, -28/+1ranting are we?
- jkanda, on 03/29/2008, -3/+13Wow what a douche bag you are. What if the man, suspecting a burglar was snooping around his house, had been shot to death? Yeah real ***** funny prank.
- KaJuN4, on 03/30/2008, -1/+3He'll be out in 6 months, tops. God bless America!
- kelmaster1, on 03/30/2008, -0/+2Gotta make room for the next crew of dumbasses
- R4dio, on 03/29/2008, -28/+1ranting are we?
- davidwasman, on 03/29/2008, -23/+5Dupe. This made front page last month...and 2 months prior to that.
digg.com/tech_news/Teenage_Hacker_Is_Blind_and_in_the_Crosshairs_of_the_FBI- DeviantDragon, on 03/29/2008, -2/+5It may be two stories of swatting but you can't say that it's the same news story. Otherwise every article on political corruption must be a dupe since political corruption has been on Digg before.
- ghotli, on 03/29/2008, -1/+4you obviously didn't read both articles. This is not a dupe and you've been dugg down.
- Chaoticfist, on 03/29/2008, -28/+9Ok i have to say. This is stupid. He deserves to be punished for doing that, however i do not think it is worth 3 years in jail. I would say 2 months in jail and a $50,000 fine + 1000 hours of community service should be good. I just think it is a waste of cash to have him in jail for 3 years.
- DaviDTC, on 03/29/2008, -0/+21It is cheaper to have this one guy in jail for 3 years instead of hundreds of people copying the stunt and sending swat each time cause the penalty isnt harsh enough to stop them.
- rolf, on 03/29/2008, -1/+8I think the "Making an example of someone" punishment system is too harsh on the individual -- whose actions we are judging. He cannot be held responsible for what the copycats might do unless he encourages it.
The punishment should fit the crime. However, in this case, I don't think 3 years is excessive -- sending a swat team could have resulted in some very real deaths; common sense should tell you that. I do wish we had a remote island where we could send/banish criminals to, one untouched by technology, mildly hospitable (no Hawaii, bahamas), pretty big and we just dump them there and leave a crate of spam for them once a month. (The English used to call theirs Australia).
- rolf, on 03/29/2008, -1/+8I think the "Making an example of someone" punishment system is too harsh on the individual -- whose actions we are judging. He cannot be held responsible for what the copycats might do unless he encourages it.
- alex7575, on 03/29/2008, -0/+27Do you even realize the scope of this incident? He called the police and made it sound like a killer was inside that residence, as far as the SWAT team knew, there was an armed person inside that house, think about that, and put yourself in the cops shoes, and the residents' shoes
- LocalDocal, on 03/29/2008, -4/+0Actually, I thought the proposed punishment was pretty fair, albeit I would have opted for one month in jail, and 10,000 hours of community service. However, it is also true that I only accept such a proposition because, as far as I know, the father of the household (who came out with a knife) wasn't shot at.
It's not that I don't think the boy's crime was serious nor because I fear the lost cash as we use jail, but frankly, I think jail is being used too often for punishment in this country. It's ridiculously the kind of offenses that can get you thrown in jail; instead, I think we should only use jails for the serious criminals (murderers, rapists, etc).
P.S. Here's a picture of the boy: http://optuszoo.news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?i ...- cadmiumpaint, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2what should jail be used for if not punishment? thats what its for.
- LocalDocal, on 03/29/2008, -4/+0You know, I did say right below that line that jails should only be used for serious criminals. Your selective reading skills is very advanced.
- JulyZerg, on 03/30/2008, -0/+2And your grammar is pathetic... "reading skillS IS very advanced"
- cadmiumpaint, on 03/29/2008, -1/+2sorry but you wrote it an very ambiguous way. you're ability to NOT communicate an idea is very advanced.
- LocalDocal, on 04/01/2008, -0/+0I wrote it in a very ambiguous way? Are you kidding? Which part of it was ambiguous?
- cadmiumpaint, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2what should jail be used for if not punishment? thats what its for.
- icemanex, on 03/29/2008, -12/+0I bury you for being a ***** douche, nothing bad came of it
- trer, on 03/29/2008, -0/+11"nothing bad came of it"
Take a step back and think about what happened. SWAT team had to come out to this residence. That costs taxpayer dollars. The residents were in bed for the night and were awaken by what they thought was a prowler. He is subsequently handcuffed and his freedom temporarily taken away because of this hoax. To me, being handcuffed is a humiliating experience, especially if you don't know why it's happening. The father could have been shot. The mother could been shot. The two toddlers could have been shot. Not to mention all the neighbors wondering what's going on. All this so one zit-faced teenager can have a laugh and show off on some messageboard that he "pwned some noobs". If I were the Bates I would sue Ellis for all that he's worth (probably not much). - manitoba98xp, on 03/29/2008, -0/+5But something bad could have. That's why DUI is a crime even if you don't hit someone: you could have, and evidently did not consider the potential consequences beforehand.
- trer, on 03/29/2008, -0/+11"nothing bad came of it"
- LocalDocal, on 03/29/2008, -4/+0Actually, I thought the proposed punishment was pretty fair, albeit I would have opted for one month in jail, and 10,000 hours of community service. However, it is also true that I only accept such a proposition because, as far as I know, the father of the household (who came out with a knife) wasn't shot at.
- itsthebrod, on 03/29/2008, -0/+21This could have ended a LOT worse than it did. The guy at the house the SWAT team arrived at went outside with a knife because he thought he heard attackers. Had the SWAT team been a little more trigger happy, they could've easily killed him. That "hacking" ***** should be glad he's only getting 3 years instead of having manslaughter charges against him. ***** idiot.
- ClevelandBrown, on 03/29/2008, -0/+9you're wrong. he deserves every minute of that 3 years sentence.
- JulyZerg, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2You fill the stereotype of the typical American - obsessed with money, and does not care about people. You make the country look terrible...
- DaviDTC, on 03/29/2008, -0/+21It is cheaper to have this one guy in jail for 3 years instead of hundreds of people copying the stunt and sending swat each time cause the penalty isnt harsh enough to stop them.
- doctorfungi, on 03/29/2008, -5/+42Proper hacking has been degraded into nothing by the liberal use of the word. The most common/annoying one I hear is that "OMFG there's hackers in my MSN! They hacked into my MSN!"... no Timmy, they guessed your secret question. No hacking involved.
- se1zure, on 03/29/2008, -10/+6"Unauthorized use, or attempts to circumvent or bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network."
guessing the secret password is an attempt to bypass a security mechanism.- ElbertF, on 03/29/2008, -3/+3Ohh so if you leave your front door open and I just walk in, I'm bypassing your security systems?
- se1zure, on 03/29/2008, -1/+6yes?
- ElbertF, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1Oh.
- manitoba98xp, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1No, but you are still trespassing, and probably breaking and entering.
- bob12321, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1I'm almost positive if the door was open noting would need to be broken.
- stonklit, on 03/29/2008, -1/+0No, but you'll be an idiot for failing to make some witty analogy involving ***** guessing passwords and trespassing.
- solid12345, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1So I guess if my neighbor forgets to lock his front door I have free reign to go take what I will and my guilt is washed away?
- se1zure, on 03/29/2008, -1/+6yes?
- stonklit, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2As much as people will cry, yes, that's hacking.
No different than saying, "Well the only reason you got thru apache security is by sending malformed data and utilizing an exploit" To me, not really hacking. Just reading up on the latest unpatched exploits and following through on them. Any idiot can do it.
But it really is in the sense of what the word means. Basically, if you're manipulating your way into something, it's hacking. Guessing secret questions and all that other ***** is just a form of social engineering (or stupid people setting easy questions), but still hacking.
- ElbertF, on 03/29/2008, -3/+3Ohh so if you leave your front door open and I just walk in, I'm bypassing your security systems?
- se1zure, on 03/29/2008, -10/+6"Unauthorized use, or attempts to circumvent or bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network."
- MuletTheGreat, on 03/29/2008, -13/+3Jesus saves!
- itsthebrod, on 03/29/2008, -1/+4Saves on sales? Saves the whales? Saves time by ignoring science lectures and attributing all phenomenon to his dad? The suspense is killing me here!
- xlneoMAXlx, on 03/29/2008, -2/+1http://jesussavesthegame.ytmnd.com/
- UltramegaOK, on 03/29/2008, -13/+7He'd better keep that soap on a rope.
BOOTYBANG!!!!! - SeanRoss, on 03/29/2008, -8/+3Booty Buttcheeks!
- eminiguy, on 03/29/2008, -22/+5Too harsh, but perfectly in line with American mentality which, among other things, called for killing tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis for "perpetrating" the 9/11 attacks.
- czeman, on 03/29/2008, -5/+3So you wanted to vote for Hillary I take it? You'd probably be the first to call for harsh actions against one of the officers had an innocent victim been killed as a result of this "prank".
- RikkiTikki, on 03/29/2008, -6/+1Had an innocent victim actually been killed then either the officer went against protocol or the victim did something to make it happen. Therefore the officer is likely to be at fault no matter the reason he or she was there.
- kcmedic, on 03/29/2008, -0/+5The victim could have heard them outside before they announced themselves as police and went outside to defend his home against unknown intruders (he has every right to do that). Then, from the SWAT teams POV, here is a possible suspect coming at them with a knife and they defend themselves (not against protocol). In the end you have one dead guy who didn't do anything wrong, and a cop who has to live with that fact.
- RikkiTikki, on 03/29/2008, -6/+1Had an innocent victim actually been killed then either the officer went against protocol or the victim did something to make it happen. Therefore the officer is likely to be at fault no matter the reason he or she was there.
- se1zure, on 03/29/2008, -1/+13calling in a false murder, impersonating another individual, tapping into a phone line, getting an innocent man arrested, and wasting the tax dollars of everyone isn't worth 3 years in jail? What else would he have to do for 3 years? Actually commit the murder?
- Maynza, on 03/29/2008, -14/+1The three posts above mine are stupid.
- dcollins, on 03/29/2008, -2/+2TTTRRRROOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!
- czeman, on 03/29/2008, -5/+3So you wanted to vote for Hillary I take it? You'd probably be the first to call for harsh actions against one of the officers had an innocent victim been killed as a result of this "prank".
- nsanidy, on 03/29/2008, -2/+21The very idea of being "swatted" is quite unnerving. I personally wish he had a stiffer sentence, he put a whole family in danger.
- xXIrsotehkewlXx, on 03/29/2008, -3/+21I think three years was pretty light.
Would you want to be the resident that had SWAT surround your house with guns?
I think they should have gotten more than $14,765 out of him.
Damn kids.- fool13, on 03/29/2008, -13/+3Too Harsh? More like too lenient. Some loser with too much time on his hands goes around harassing people on the internet wasting our law enforcement's time and he only get's 3 years? Set a standard, this kind of behavior will NOT be tolerated - give him 5-10 years. This is like this kid who threatened to blow up numerous football stadiums, apparently because he said it on the internet it was not an actual statement and just a joke. Reading the article this kid also threatened to kill another person as well, he needs to be behind bars and away from the computer. Preferably not in some local country club prison but a state penitentury where after being someone's prison wife for 3 years he won't be able to sit down without hurting.
- Dantetheinferno, on 03/29/2008, -0/+8He said it was too lenient.
lrn2read.- xXIrsotehkewlXx, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1She.
- hellotyler, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2I was thinking 3 years was pretty light as well, he will probably do only 3/4 of that or less before being let out early for good behavior. Bleh.
- Dantetheinferno, on 03/29/2008, -0/+8He said it was too lenient.
- fool13, on 03/29/2008, -13/+3Too Harsh? More like too lenient. Some loser with too much time on his hands goes around harassing people on the internet wasting our law enforcement's time and he only get's 3 years? Set a standard, this kind of behavior will NOT be tolerated - give him 5-10 years. This is like this kid who threatened to blow up numerous football stadiums, apparently because he said it on the internet it was not an actual statement and just a joke. Reading the article this kid also threatened to kill another person as well, he needs to be behind bars and away from the computer. Preferably not in some local country club prison but a state penitentury where after being someone's prison wife for 3 years he won't be able to sit down without hurting.
- sfacets, on 03/29/2008, -13/+5No sense of humor those SWAT people...
- rdoger6424, on 03/29/2008, -0/+7If you're a swat member and get a call about an armed gunman inside a house that has killed a person, are you going to have a sense of humor?
- buddyw, on 03/29/2008, -2/+32Someone could have died. I'm glad that jackass is in jail
- baldgye, on 03/29/2008, -20/+1if one of the swat team had shot one of the family members, then its hardly the pranksters fault.
- itsthebrod, on 03/29/2008, -1/+14Yes, it's 100% the prankster's fault, because he was the reason the SWAT team was there in the first place.
- baldgye, on 03/29/2008, -15/+1so ur saying that if the SWAT team kills an innocent person (regardless of the situation) then SWAT isn't to blame
- itsthebrod, on 03/29/2008, -1/+14No, but in THIS situation, the SWAT team shouldn't have even been there in the first place. It was 100% due to the prankster. Therefore, whatever happened was the direct result of what the prankster did. I know logic and common sense is probably difficult for you to understand considering you're incapable of spelling "you're."
- t3rmv3locity, on 03/29/2008, -1/+6baldgye please just shut up.
- baldgye, on 03/29/2008, -4/+1....so becasue I'm dyslexic I can't cope with common sense ?
- baldgye, on 03/29/2008, -15/+1so ur saying that if the SWAT team kills an innocent person (regardless of the situation) then SWAT isn't to blame
- insertAliasHere, on 03/29/2008, -0/+12Setting in motion the chain of events that lead to it....I think you'd have to say that he is indirectly responsible at least. Without him, the situation would never have occurred.
- Extracheese, on 03/29/2008, -0/+3I believe the guy in the story picked up a knife because he thought there was an intruder in the house, and since the call was about murder...it's a surprise nobody was hurt.
- itsthebrod, on 03/29/2008, -1/+14Yes, it's 100% the prankster's fault, because he was the reason the SWAT team was there in the first place.
- stonklit, on 03/29/2008, -7/+0Oh god, shut up.
- Radan, on 03/29/2008, -1/+3Hopefully he won't jailbreak himself free. HEY-OH!
- baldgye, on 03/29/2008, -20/+1if one of the swat team had shot one of the family members, then its hardly the pranksters fault.
- andrew606, on 03/29/2008, -6/+7only 3 years? heres to hoping he gets butt *****.
- RikkiTikki, on 03/29/2008, -11/+2In three years he'll just find a better way to cover up his phone calls. I hate the justice system and how it thinks punitive jail time is a way to change behavior.
- JulyZerg, on 03/29/2008, -1/+2It's supposed to keep them away from society...
- Cycline3, on 03/29/2008, -20/+2This is *****. It was stupid, idiotic and immature. STILL, it was a GOOF... when people who make bad prank calls and smoke pot spend as much time in prison as someone who shoots someone else or runs them over dead while DUI -- then something is seriously wrong. A large fine and lots of community service would have benefited the community more, cost the taxpayers less and been a much more suitable punishment.
- itsthebrod, on 03/29/2008, -0/+17Putting Kool-Aid in a shower head before someone uses the shower is a prank. Covering a car in saran wrap is a prank. Spoofing a call to the police saying you just murdered someone and are threatening to kill more is not a ***** prank. It's an irresponsible and dangerous crime, and one that deserves to be severely punished in order to deter more people from doing it. Smoking pot and having a SWAT team sent to a house ready to take out the "killer" should in no way be put on the same playing field. The spoofer deserves what he got and should be glad it didn't turn into something much worse.
- roebeet, on 03/29/2008, -0/+8This moron put that family's lives in danger - SWAT teams have GUNS. Yes, they are trained not to be trigger happy, but the father could have easily been injured or killed.
Yes, I did stupid things when I was young too, but I never put people's lives in danger - this idiot crossed the line. - BeyondGoodNEvil, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2It's not a prank when it costs taxpayers thousands of dollars and puts an innocent family at risk of death.
- MrDash001, on 03/29/2008, -9/+2Now had the person been of middle eastern decent, he probably would have ended up in Guantanamo Bay.
- cgbspender, on 03/29/2008, -8/+2Must be one of those anonymous-hackers. They are responsible for everything bad in the world.
- schrutefan, on 03/29/2008, -1/+9Took them 6 months to catch this guy... my local police department doesn't spend that much time investigating murders.
- CedEx, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2I want to know what they were doing in 6 months time to catch him? Check logs? Dial *69? What did they do to find him?
- Orcmors, on 03/30/2008, -0/+2There was probably a lot of red tape to go through to get the caller id spoofing service to release the personal details of this "hacker."
- CedEx, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2I want to know what they were doing in 6 months time to catch him? Check logs? Dial *69? What did they do to find him?
- offspring06, on 03/29/2008, -2/+3hahahahaha
- cadmiumpaint, on 03/29/2008, -14/+9Hackers are selfish idiots who don't understand that real people suffer from their little games of trying to feel adequate.
hoping this little prick has fun getting raped every day.- asspants, on 03/29/2008, -5/+4Posters like you are simpleminded idiots who don't understand that not all hackers are the same and comment like it's a little game while trying to feel relevant in this world.
better hope you're behind seven proxies and have norton internet security installed.
P.S. you might want to take Computer Science III- solid12345, on 03/29/2008, -0/+6You just proved his point, threatening him with your uber l33t skills.
- asspants, on 03/29/2008, -5/+1hahahahahahahaaaahahahahah hahaha hahahaah
that was NOT a threat or even a promise, you're even stupider than he is.- solid12345, on 03/30/2008, -0/+2"better hope you're behind seven proxies and have norton internet security installed."
What is that exactly? Trying to sound bad ass because you may have the capability to ***** up his system? And you wonder why people grumble at the term hacker?
- solid12345, on 03/30/2008, -0/+2"better hope you're behind seven proxies and have norton internet security installed."
- asspants, on 03/29/2008, -5/+1hahahahahahahaaaahahahahah hahaha hahahaah
- cadmiumpaint, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2ok well i probabally shouldn't have lumped "all" hackers into that boat. this story made me angry. i'll admit to that.
however, please tell me what else would his point have been except to get bragging rights to prove his skills to his hacker friends?
point being people shouldn't use their tech skills and knowledge to play games with other people's lives. there is no reason for it, and this guy got what he deserved.- asspants, on 03/30/2008, -1/+2well, yeah, i agree. he should get more time, honestly.
what else his point was? i don't care, i think what him and his phone phreaking friends did was pretty ***** stupid myself.
i was simply commenting that you made a mistake by insinuating that all hackers are hell bent on ruining someone's day.
that's like saying all gun owners want to shoot people to brag to their friends.
that and ***** all you ***** who dugg me down.
- asspants, on 03/30/2008, -1/+2well, yeah, i agree. he should get more time, honestly.
- solid12345, on 03/29/2008, -0/+6You just proved his point, threatening him with your uber l33t skills.
- helimeef, on 03/29/2008, -0/+4Hey I'm a hacker, but companies like Microsoft, Google, and Wordpress hire me to try to hack their systems to improve the security. I'm a white hat hacker, which is about 90% of the hackers in the world; and we are not looking to harm anybody. Plus it's fun to be able to alert a powerful company that they have a security flaw. (Well I'd expect that from M$, but still).
- FUR10N, on 03/29/2008, -2/+3bs
- asspants, on 03/29/2008, -5/+4Posters like you are simpleminded idiots who don't understand that not all hackers are the same and comment like it's a little game while trying to feel relevant in this world.
- mc9000, on 03/29/2008, -1/+6Pic: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/lat-hacker_jq0y2 ...
- helimeef, on 03/29/2008, -2/+0Yeah he looks like he could be a hacker. Kinda like that story with the guy microwaving his daughter looked like a guy that would microwave someone :)
- kbeast, on 03/29/2008, -1/+9ahhhhh yes...his jailmates will love the frosted tips and 80s hair style.
- chimmz, on 03/29/2008, -2/+5then you get the real 911 calls where the dispatchers mistake it for a prank and don't send help because of dumbasses like these
- omnibahumut, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2911 is required to respond to every call, to prevent something like that from happening. Even if you call with a genuine emergency (a small fire), but take care of it before hanging up and tell them to not respond, they're still going to send help.
- asspants, on 03/29/2008, -12/+1HAY HE MUST HAVE BEEN MUSLIM AMIRITE? HE'S PROBABBLY PART OF THE PLOT TO PUT B. HUSSEIN OBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND IMPOSE SHARIAIA LAW|!!!!!!!11111eleventyoneoneone
- hempydave, on 03/29/2008, -5/+2POWN'ED
- stonklit, on 03/29/2008, -12/+0The real question is why the ***** is the dispatcher sending out the SWAT team from a simple ***** call?
That's partially on them for overreacting.- Klaatu14, on 03/29/2008, -0/+6What should they have done? Sent one guy to knock on the door and say "Pardon me, but is there a murderer inside?"
- unit451, on 03/29/2008, -2/+2the punishment fits the crime here.
- freakydingo, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1For once. And it barely does, I could deal with it being harsher. The husband who went outside is fortunate he didn't get shot. And his wife and kids are probably traumatized because of the event.
- torpedoes83, on 03/29/2008, -6/+0These felonies will follow him the rest of his life. If he had any aspirations to a "professional" career before, he doesn't now. I'm not sure how I feel about this one.
- madoc62, on 03/29/2008, -0/+5The little git put other people's lives at risk due to his "little prank." There have been plenty of instances where police have mistakenly raided the home of an innocent bystander in which that homeowner, not realizing it's the police breaking down his door, responded with force and was killed by the police. From the description of this incident, that almost happened as the guy who got "SWAT'd" was armed when he stumbled across the cops.
This "hacker" deserves a whole lot more than but a mere three years in prison for his antics. - BinaryFragger, on 03/29/2008, -0/+4Maybe he should have thought of that before committing the crime.
- Klaatu14, on 03/29/2008, -0/+3That's a good reason not to commit a felony.
- madoc62, on 03/29/2008, -0/+5The little git put other people's lives at risk due to his "little prank." There have been plenty of instances where police have mistakenly raided the home of an innocent bystander in which that homeowner, not realizing it's the police breaking down his door, responded with force and was killed by the police. From the description of this incident, that almost happened as the guy who got "SWAT'd" was armed when he stumbled across the cops.
- karolisonline, on 03/29/2008, -3/+4what? hei, propaganda is really going on and is even reaching digg (maybe because of large iq concetration). hackers try to kill epileptic people? hackers calling 911? those are not hackers. propaganda against Internet freedom, that is what it is.
- solid12345, on 03/29/2008, -0/+3no hackers don't do all that, they are just assholes who steal your credit card number and leave a trojan in your system. I don't give a rats ass if hackers think they are being misconstrued in the media, most are all fat pasty nerds with intent to cause havoc.
- helimeef, on 03/29/2008, -0/+6Haha if I walked into my backyard and there were a buncha guys with assault rifles pointed at me, guard dogs, and a helicopter, I'd probably faint.
- caleb4mj, on 03/29/2008, -0/+10Calling the SWAT team on anyone puts their life at risk. SWAT teams have been known to shoot first ask questions later, or kill them all and let God sort it out. They aren't the police, they carry fully automatic weapons. This is more like sending in the military to secure the area. IIRC a fews back they killed someone for suspicion of dealing drugs, but it turns out they had the wrong address. Oops. Don't mess with SWAT.
- thrallie, on 03/29/2008, -3/+5not a hacker. A hacker would have covered his tracks. Not to mention caller id spoofing is not hacking. If he really didnt want to get caught he should have done the call on a public pay phone, with no camera. and gloves in case they try to print it (not likely to happen but you cant be too careful).
Some people are just so stupid.- kbeast, on 03/29/2008, -0/+4hm, you seem to know a lot about this..
your IP address is being traced... - csplinter, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1What's with all you retards talking about caller ID spoofing. Jesus, can't you figure out that it wouldn't have taken six months to find this guy had he just spoofed the caller ID. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_iden ...
- grovest4life, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1this is the LAPD we are talking about hear though.
- grovest4life, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1my bad the OCSD
- grovest4life, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1this is the LAPD we are talking about hear though.
- kbeast, on 03/29/2008, -0/+4hm, you seem to know a lot about this..
- fantom88, on 03/29/2008, -5/+2Probably had the O.C. Disorder....
- treytt, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1dont call it that
- jololli, on 03/29/2008, -0/+7The father is lucky he didn't get his head blown off, walking out the backdoor with a kitchen knife in his hand...
- d4ni, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2So true. In such a situation it's important to react quickly. However, react does _not_ equal use the gun you have in your hand, unlike what some policemen/swat sometimes seem to think. Given the phonecall I can even understand they think they are dealing with an armed killer storming out of a house but still. His (body) language (as in; 'wtf is going on here?' vs 'I'm going to slice this kid's throat') probably saved him.
- thallium205, on 03/29/2008, -0/+2Damn what if the guy owned a gun?
- tchynerd, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1Wasn't this guy mentioned in the latest issue of 2600?
- dangerdooms, on 03/29/2008, -2/+4I wonder how many points the SWAT team racked up because of the doublexp weekend...
- usingpond, on 03/29/2008, -1/+1Wow. How the hell would you even consider this without meticulously covering all your bases? I kind of wish they used lethal force to take him out of our gene pool.
- rxbudian, on 03/29/2008, -0/+1Here's another one that's caught. This guy is actually blind. http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/02/bli ...
- exomni, on 03/29/2008, -1/+2Good.
- AvangionQ, on 03/30/2008, -1/+1This is a really disturbed `prank` call ... often, a prank is meant to teach someone a lesson through humor, but what exactly is `SWATting` supposed to accomplish? Truthfully, its the first time I've heard the term ...
- leerayIG88, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1I would have enabled god mode and used my BFG 9000.
*BAM* *BAM* *BAM!!* - vadvaro, on 03/30/2008, -0/+0hope he gets his whipped in prison
- Hamsterpotpies, on 03/30/2008, -0/+2I went to school with him. He was a ***** nut then. Still is I see.
- donkeySays, on 03/30/2008, -0/+2Corrected: Idiot gets 3 years over fake 911 call which sent SWAT team
- 5xSTUN, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1Prison's not going to go well for this kid. He's exactly the kind of fresh meat the other prisoners have been waiting for, and they'll pass him around like a plate of hors d'oeuvres. He's damn lucky no-one died from his "fun," or he'd be looking at life imprisonment right now.
- drgnflyblu5, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1We think he's going to prison, but hes actually going to join the CIA
19 and hes already fooling the SWAT's...damn. - StusGhost, on 03/30/2008, -0/+1Doh! Not so funny now Randal.
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