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- Jockdoe, on 10/10/2007, -9/+67I don't understand why didn't it Explode? I've seen 3 buildings in lower Manhattan burn and they blew up?
- Prodigal86, on 10/10/2007, -13/+69Obviously this building follows the old laws of physics, under which no steel framed building has ever collapsed due to fire. I guess it didn't get the memo on Sept. 11th that the world had changed. It can't cling to old laws of nature, the gov't will supply us with all the laws we need.
- Bigtopher, on 10/10/2007, -0/+50God bless the firefighters that were lost.
- orderoutofchaos, on 10/10/2007, -8/+35 NEW WTC 7 BOMBS WITNESS GO WATCH THE CLIP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuUFAJ5Rrec - dukeeeey, on 10/10/2007, -7/+34If you check the NIST report, they admit the building 7 fell in 7 seconds. If you do the math, you will see that if you dropped a ball in a vacuum from 228 metres up (height of wtc7) it would take 6.8 seconds to fall. So INCLUDING air resistance and the core of the building, only managed to offer 0.2 seconds resistance to the fall of the building, which is frankly obsurd.
If you dropped a ball from 228 metres up, it would probably take over 7 seconds to fall due to air resistance alone. Looking only at the collapse time, I can't see how it could be anything other than controlled demolition, unless the laws of physics were suspended on 911. - terdblossom, on 10/10/2007, -5/+26WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane and it was 47 stories high. You need to understand that the steel in buildings in Manhattan is very flammable. Hence, there is a smoking ban in NY, so that the steel buildings aren't constantly catching on fire and exploding.
- kmckanna, on 10/10/2007, -4/+25I know why it didn't explode. Because a few weeks before, there weren't any "odd" evacuations of the buildings. The bomb sniffing dogs that are protecting the building weren't removed, because this time Bush and his culprits didn't plan on putting bombs in the building for a controlled demolition so Bush could get all of the power to make his Bills, and the other people involved could get rich off of the insurance policy that would have been put on the building literally weeks before it would have exploded. What I am trying to say is, this fire wasn't planned. WTC North South and WTC 7 were planned.
There we go.
I bet this sparks an entirely new investigation of burning buildings. How unlucky for Bush. Even though the WTC's had plenty more floors, WTC 7 wasn't much bigger from what I understand.
I have a feeling this is the next biggest step to finding out the truth besides the beautifully put together documentary, "Loose Choose 2nd Edition." - moogman5, on 10/10/2007, -6/+27Takes a lickin'....and another lickin'....and keeps on a tickin' ... =)
My condolences to the families of those poor lost firefighter victims of the bastards who purposefully set that building on fire.
We know who you are you bunch of evil murderous bastards!! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+25No plane hit WTC 7 yet it still fell at free fall speed within its own footprint.
- towne420, on 10/10/2007, -8/+27You can show the obvious and people still won't wake up!!!
- Jockdoe, on 10/10/2007, -8/+26Maybe because hundreds of thousands of pounds of explosives didn't go off in it?
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -3/+20I believe Jones is comparing this structural fire to WTC7, which did not in fact get hit by an airplane.
- swrostmore, on 10/10/2007, -4/+20Jones is comparing this structural fire to the fire that took down WTC7, in which no aircraft was involved.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+27Digg brother is watching. He doesn't want Prison planet or Infowars or Jones report stories becoming "popular" and hitting the main page, even if they regularly get 300 to 500 diggs in 24hrs, totally dwarfing the majority of lame stories that do make the main page.
Praise Digg brother. He cares for the people enough to make sure they think the right thoughts and aren't overburdened with pesky details like honesty and integrity in reporting. - babcat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+18This is simply further confirmation that fire will NOT cause steel frame buildings to collapse! It's absolutely clear the buildings that collapsed on 9/11 did so because they were DEMOLISHED via controlled demolition! They did NOT collapse due to fire. Additionally, they fell at free fall speed. The only explanation for that is that explosives were used in a controlled demolition.
- MasterThief117, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15God bless all the firefighters who risked their lives.
- card51short, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17TIME TO OWN ALL THE HATER TROLLS ON THE BOARD:
WWW.PATRIOTSQUESTION911.COM
WWW.AE911TRUTH.ORG
Please tell me why 500+ professionals (some even on the 9/11 Comission before resigning) have serious questions about 9/11 and believe there is a huge cover up?
Or why 150+ architects and engineers would put their names on the line to "make up *****" about the collapsing of the buildings on 9/11?
Just do some investigating with an open mind. Think about it. All of history is ruled by tyrannical government. 200+ million alone were killed last century by governments alone around the world. Our government enslaved a race of people.
Not all government is bad and evil but when people aren't active in politics, corruption ALWAYS seeps into places of power. It's human history. Just realize that it can happen here and to inform yourself. Or you can just simply laugh it off and deny it. That's easy.
I was for Bush and for the wars 3 years ago. I have completely done a 180 now that I actually participate in politics and study profusely.
Of course the very idea sounds insane. Why would the government want to hurt us? Then you study history and what freedom really is then you find out who has the motive and the means.
I'm sorry we have to bring you guys this news, trust me, we're not happy about it.
911 was an inside job. - plumber3, on 10/10/2007, -9/+23buildings only fall from fire when a govt./ worker or neo-con shill/welfare recipient says so
- MrGrinchstick, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16And the stink from lower Manhattan intensifies. Are there ANY firefighters anywhere who still believe the story we were told about 9/11 ?
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -4/+18Imagine that. Anyone else waking up?
- Crazymaniacc, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18I hope there will be a time when people stop shouting: consparicy theory!!! and they will realise the government is capable of doing those things.
I'm looking forward to the day that Bush has to go to court. - borepstein, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18It is a shame that those two firefighters died... RIP - and the speediest recovery to their colleagues who got injured - though, luckily, it sounsd like their injuries are not that severe.
As for the building's performance - let's not forget that it was considerably damaged on 9/11/2001, partly deconstructed, no longer properly equipped with fire protection - and yet it never collapsed after burning for much longer - and, possibly, at higher temperatures - than the fires of 9/11. - Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15It's interesting to read the bashers comments on here. It's so strange how some people are so brainwashed that they can't see an imploded building when they see it, even when it's compared to one of the many demolished buildings. The government says "X caused Y" and they believe it. Heh, it would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Gotta hand to the NWO, they sure do know how to brainwash people. But thankfully people are starting to wake up from their slumber. The question is, is it too late? That's a question I don't like to ponder.
- fitzgerald11, on 10/10/2007, -5/+16Well, its obvious it was controlled demolition that brought WTC 1,2,7 down. If you put all the evidence about the inside job "theory" right in their faces, still stupid neocons and shrewd zionists would say the bin ladins did it, and the foreign government in the US is the one who will save us all. Wiretapping, gun confiscation, cameras everywhere, your police state is here to protect you, neocons!
- Jockdoe, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Hi Horton, everyone say hello to agent Horton.
- moogman5, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Right on man!! I can't believe how pathetic and insane some of these haters are on here! No...a government would never put people on trains and mass exterminate them for profit and for war...oh no.....
Some of you people on here who call us serious patriots and concerned citizens 'twoofers' should be ashamed of yourselves and you can bet you're going to look back at this and shrivel up in shame! SHAME ON YOU!!! - cp833, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12OK so... let me get this straight now.
No building had ever collapsed into its own footprint before 9/11, yet Building 7 did even though it wasn't struck by a plane, and had fires on only one side.
The BBC reported the collapse of Building 7 before it happened, and also managed to say with 100% accuracy the reasons for its collapse, even though it hadn't actually happened yet and this kind of thing was unprecedented.
'Lucky' Larry Silverstein just so happened to take out a multi-million dollar insurance cover against terrorism in the weeks and months before the attacks.
'Lucky' Larry Silverstein went on camera saying the decision was made to 'pull it'
Many firemen testify to hearing explosions coming from Building 7.
Building 7 is completely omitted from the 9/11 commission report, as though it never happened.
Years later, another building catches fire in the same area, yet this time does not collapse. Not even a little.
So all of this, yet.... some people STILL choose to deny there is anything wrong here. Just how much does it take?!
Every new thing that comes out like this in general seems to make the official version harder and harder to believe. But some of you still choose to deny there is anything wrong!! I'm not trying to argue with you I am just genuinely curious exactly WHAT it would take before you finally stop and think 'maybe there IS something not quite right here..'
And before you say 'where's your evidence'... it's called 'connecting the dots'.. a logical conclusion reached from taking into account all the factors. It's how all the best detective work is done.
1+1=2. - moogman5, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14I agree with you mrfreeziexp...Let's fly a 767 fully fueled into an abandoned, condemned, steel frame skyscraper AS AN EXPERIMENT and see what happens. I bet $1,000 bucks that the buildings stays standing....Throw in a couple of tankers of jet fuel (kerosene) in there as well, who cares? Just yesterday they (whoever set the fires) couldn't bring down the old Deustche bank building! Two firefighters were killed and the building has already had Tower 2 slam into it 6 years ago, and now this big fire from yesterday...Guess whaat? That damn building is still there!!!
My money is on the buildings. - virtualdc, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15Oh yes it did agent hornton. Again you are here with the same old deny, deny, deny. Doesn't work anymore and you are not R Kelly.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -2/+12Debris does not cause a structure to defy physics and implode Vegas-style within seconds. It's not rocket science folks.
- virtualdc, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Check the headline agent Hornton. Perhaps you should concentrate on this digg exclusively. You're slippin'.
- moogman5, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Watch the videos people! 9/11 MYSTERIES, TERRORSTORM, LOOSECHANGE 2nd Edition...THIS COUNTRY IS SCREWED BEYOND BELIEF BUT THERE"S STILL TIME TO TAKE IT BACK AND SPARE US FROM CERTAIN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE!
- Jockdoe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11You will of course know with your knowledge that the black smoke of the twin towers and wtc7 show a weak burning fire starved of fuel (Oxygen), no where near close to the temperatures required, of course the temperature rating on the structural steel was around 2600 degrees C. Kerosene cant weaken the this grade structural steel even in ideal O2 conditions.
- Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9Oh I agree, I've stopped arguing with them because they aren't looking for truth. But I do like to draw out responses like Hortnon's so that people can see what they're really about. People who are really looking for truth will find it and the more bashers make the comments that they do, the more people will wake up and that's all that matters.
- Jockdoe, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14All the worms are coming out of the woodwork.
- Clintoon, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Ounce again more evidence that the official story is a lie. Wake up America!
- Jockdoe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8The pulverization started at the top, towards the end of the demolitions in regard to WTC 1, 2. So a block hitting the ground from a great height isn't a good analogy. Oh and Jim i think is using sarcasm.
- jimmyb20032003, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12Imperium... I used to be skeptical, like you. I thought the truthers were retards. However, once I allowed myself to view just one or two videos, I realized there are some SERIOUS questions that need to be answered. Just look up WTC7 on youtube, you will view some shocking video. Ask people in the controlled demolitions industry what they think about WTC7. People ask how a conspiracy so vast could be contained in a shroud of secrecy. Well, I only recently discovered some of our government's illegal and unethical programs from DECADES ago. I only discovered them because of patriots, although eccentric, such as Alex Jones.
- MisterMills, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Can someone post the link the metallurgical analysis that 'Investigation' put out. I remember reading it a while back and being fairly surprised at the sulfur content. In any case I though I would point a few things out. If I recall correctly the WTC buildings were constructed using ASTM A36 grade structural steel and certified fire resistant to another ASTM standard. To get more to the point, it is very unlikely that there was enough heat generated by that fire to cripple the steel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel
JET A-1 (Commercial Jet Fuel) Open air burning temperatures: 260-315 °C (500-599 °F) Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C (1796 °F)
Maximum burning temperature can only be achieved by creating the perfect air/fuel ratio which is very unlikely to occur inside of a building.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Phase_diag_iron_carbon-color_temp.png
Looking at the jet fuel open air burning temperate versus the Iron-Carbon phase diagram it is pretty easy to see that the temperature reached would not even put a tinge in the steel's colour. I would be interested in seeing some elevated temperature K1H (fracture toughness) values for A36 steel as well as some elevated temperature tensile tests.
I'm no structural engineer but I am a welding technologist/metallurgist. The whole WTC/7 collapse thing just doesn't sit right with me. - Look4Truth, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Brainwashed: "The government says, therefore it is."
- Jockdoe, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12Not according to the architects that designed the buildings no. http://www.jpradio.com/Archive/2001/09/11/asx/010911swi.asx
- greenback1, on 10/10/2007, -6/+14Strange, how come the building didn't vaporize like wtc 1,2 & 7. Are we sure that the 40 story Deutsche Bank building was constructed with steel?
- kag9000, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12This kind of thing happens when you get a bunch of Digg idiots who would rather peddle a flawed Inquiry and willingly let their masters subvert and corrupt the Constitution in return to be allowed to try to drag every other citizen down to their base unquestioning subservient level.
They keep posting the same old Government sponsored media lies and congratulating themselves for being the witless morons they are. That really is pathetic, - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11Ohhhhh... OCTO-BURN! Caps lock insult is a sign of a true patriot.
- greenback1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10the Winter Garden, basically a giant glass green house, was at the same distance from the towers as was wtc 7 and withstood the debris and did no collapse. wtc 5 & 6, the buildings which stood between the towers and wtc 7, managed to stay standing after the north tower literaly fell on top of them causing massive fires and structural damage. 5&6 stayed standing and had to be brought down with controlled demolition weeks later. come on, get over yourself and stand up for your country. 9/11 was controlled demolition.
- theNazz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10Kraftwerk had it right all along... Interpol and Deutsche Bank, FBI and Scottland Yard, CIA and KGB, controlling data, memory ... computer world...
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