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Greyhound Man Who Beheaded Passenger Has Been Charged
thestar.com — Vince Weiguang Li, the 40-year-old suspect in the gruesome stabbing and decapitation aboard a Greyhound bus in Manitoba, appeared in court Friday to face a second-degree murder charge. Shackled at the wrists and ankles, Li was led by police in and out of a courtroom on Friday morning.
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- DarwinBC, on 08/01/2008, -2/+124***** terrible! how could anyone do that? My sympathy goes out to his family and friends.
- Harbinger1080, on 08/02/2008, -0/+15Very much so.
It all just seems so surrealistically over the top violent... what a sick bastard. - georgemason01, on 08/03/2008, -25/+5"how could anyone do that?"
There are numerous ways to behead someone. I'm guessing you didn't play Mortal Kombat when you were younger.- luet, on 08/03/2008, -2/+5just because someone has the physical capabilities to behead another person doesn't mean they can do it. mental capabilities are often more of a factor than physical strength.
- 4ntigravity, on 08/03/2008, -0/+17My sympathy goes out to the people who were in that bus, as well. I can't even imagine what they're going through right now.
- moofer, on 08/03/2008, -4/+42nd degree? Doesn't taking a knife onto a Greyhound bus exemplify pre-meditation?
- microchp, on 08/03/2008, -2/+10In the last couple decades I have never gone a day without my knives. I have never stabbed anyone even though plenty of tards have given many reasons to do so.
BTW, Emerson BTS Commander is my favorite. Best damn knife on earth in my opinion. - Speed, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5Not necessarily. Since it was a random act of violence, it's impossible to prove that it wasn't carried for self defence or anything.
- qh4dotcom, on 08/03/2008, -0/+72nd degree or 1st degree...it doesn't matter when it comes to punishment...Canada has no death penalty so the guy is probably going to get life in prison
- Gemfinder, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Hope somebody bags that sick ***** in jail.
- microchp, on 08/03/2008, -2/+10In the last couple decades I have never gone a day without my knives. I have never stabbed anyone even though plenty of tards have given many reasons to do so.
- kss42, on 08/03/2008, -3/+9You have caught a violent, remorseless murderer. Charge him with:
[ ] First-degree murder
[ ] Second-degree murder
[x] 10,000 volts - Kinneas12, on 08/03/2008, -9/+5Damn I can't stand all the retarded Americans on this article. WE DON'T EXECUTE PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY THE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED.
- bipolarruledout, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1We are the only developed nation with the death penalty and people want to see it put to use in these cases. Sometimes I don't know who to feel more sorry for, the victim or the perpetrator.
- Harbinger1080, on 08/02/2008, -0/+15Very much so.
- seanmanseanman, on 08/01/2008, -10/+153***** you Vince.
- chaos7, on 08/02/2008, -50/+16the killer obviously has mental problems. he needs help. as upsetting as it is, you shouldn't hate him. it would be like hating a retarded person.
- calebhawk, on 08/03/2008, -11/+36you're exactly right i love retarded people that kill people... they're great! ***** THAT!
- Awspire, on 08/03/2008, -6/+17"the killer obviously has mental problems. he needs help."
Sure, I'll help him, right into an electric chair. - LiThiuMElectro, on 08/03/2008, -13/+3Shut your face mother Teresa. ***** mental problem or not i wish we could establish the death penalty only for that guy.
Since the murder was made in Canada the guy will get like 25 ans will be out in 10 or 12. - appleseed1234, on 08/03/2008, -9/+4Shut your face Mother Teresa? What's wrong with preaching forgiveness and understanding?
Shut the ***** up you Jesus hippy! - ryan83189, on 08/03/2008, -2/+13Oh he has mental problems? So I guess that guy he killed is gonna come back to life any minute now that he knows a retard is the one that killed him, because they can't _really_ murder people right?
- CaptainShaun, on 08/03/2008, -3/+5The only kind of help for somebody like that should be euthenasia.
- moofer, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2I hate you...
- sdigroup, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4its people like you that let the killers and criminals have more rights... you are an "*****"
as far as help, he should be thrown into a pit of *****. - Galaxylander, on 08/03/2008, -2/+3"Oh, there's an insane man going around slicing babies' heads off, but he must be mentally challenged, it's not his fault! Don't lock him up!"
So, let him continue to kill people or put him in jail and let him learn it's bad. Hmmm... I wonder what I'd prefer.
You make it sound like people who have mental issues aren't responsible for what they do- they are. And people with mental issues are able to learn too.
People with your mentality are the reason that so many killers get back on the street- sympathy is a bitch. - lgh0s7l, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4do you realize how ***** stupid that idea is? ***** that! kill that piece of *****
- h4xx3d, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2In most cases, I would agree with you. But someone who randomly stabs someone 70 times, decapitates them and then proceeds to eat portions of the body all without any provocation and then has no remorse whatsoever is not mentally "human" and should be treated as such. This man needs to die.
- popfrogs, on 08/03/2008, -19/+51Awww the poor little killer has mental problems. I have exactly one bullet that would solve them.
- Impeller, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7A bullet would be like doing nothing... He would be pleased to die that way I bet... A night in a cell with "a Hannibal Lecter" would be quite fair...
- Galaxylander, on 08/03/2008, -1/+6I'd rather use the knife he killed the guy on the bus with, but make sure I cut off every non-vital limb before I take his head off to make the ***** suffer.
I'm morbid. :) - HonestAbe, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Forced labor for life would be better.
- lgh0s7l, on 08/03/2008, -3/+10"hacking off pieces and...eating it?" OMG WTF!?! someone please shoot this guy already!
- Kinneas12, on 08/03/2008, -10/+4This isn't the ***** United States. We don't do that up here.
- bassfanatik, on 08/03/2008, -1/+12So what do you do up there, let him out so he can go kill someone else?
- FalkenAX3, on 08/03/2008, -1/+11No, they prefer to have the hardworking pay for him to have cable....
- folkish, on 08/03/2008, -1/+8We might not do that up here, but if the victim was one of my family members... I'm sorry, but hand me the gun, ammo, and go ahead lock me up afterwards.
/Canadian, I had to include the obligatory 'sorry'
- chaos7, on 08/02/2008, -50/+16the killer obviously has mental problems. he needs help. as upsetting as it is, you shouldn't hate him. it would be like hating a retarded person.
- phiend, on 08/01/2008, -32/+16You WILL pay for this Vince...oh how you will pay
- chaos7, on 08/02/2008, -6/+20grow up
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -19/+6How very christian of you
- Jhiaxuz, on 08/03/2008, -2/+12No he won't. You think the justice system is ***** up in America? Canada's is by far the worst one of the two when it comes to killing somebody. He got hit with second degree murder and, at most, he will be in the Pen for 25 years. Less if the judge gives him parole and he has not murdered anyone in the past.
An example is not long ago, a bootlegger in my area was shot by a guy who had a loaded gun in his truck and he was charged with manslaughter. He was out in less than two years.- kingcam, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2Actually, you are dead wrong. The Crown charged him with second degree murder because the burden of proof would have been too high for first degree murder... I mean with him being insane and all. In the end it doesn't matter, the guy will end up spending the rest of his life in a mental institution anyways, basically a prision; they dont let people like that out.
And for the record I think it's a pretty harsh and untenable statement to say that Canada has 'by for the worst [legal system] when it comes to killing somebody".
- kingcam, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2Actually, you are dead wrong. The Crown charged him with second degree murder because the burden of proof would have been too high for first degree murder... I mean with him being insane and all. In the end it doesn't matter, the guy will end up spending the rest of his life in a mental institution anyways, basically a prision; they dont let people like that out.
- LeeB, on 08/02/2008, -19/+59How could it be second degree murder rather than first? I don't get that.
- EdmontonEh, on 08/02/2008, -0/+76First means he planned it in advance, this was a spur of the moment killing; second degree.
Therefore I would assume the RCMP can not find evidence that Vince had thought about this, and pre-meditated it.- Skafia, on 08/02/2008, -2/+24CTRaider, I concur on the point you make about arguing for first degree murder since he was carrying a weapon; but let's not turn this into a pro/anti - open/concealed carry argument. It's not even our country.
- LeeB, on 08/02/2008, -0/+4Ah, gotcha.
- arah91, on 08/02/2008, -9/+15Carrying a weapon does not mean you want to kill someone. I carry two knifes one me all the time and one could be considered a hunting knife ,but that does not mean i am looking to kill any one i just simply feel a little safer when i have them.
- jakeshdaddy, on 08/03/2008, -6/+14And I'm NEVER getting on a bus with arah11... What normal person carries a hunting knife?
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -4/+31@arah
Good point. I carry my dick with me at all times; does not mean I want to rape anyone... - microchp, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6I have always had knives on me, every day, every place I have gone for the last couple decades. They come in handy for opening things, but I have never opened a person with them nor have I ever had any urge to do so. Having a knife does not mean a person is intending to kill someone, any more than having a vehicle means you intend to run someone over. I could do a lot more damage with a vehicle than I could ever get away with using a knife. For that matter, if I wanted to kill a large number of people, I wouldn't use a knife. There are many other easier ways. Poison a water supply. Slip LSD and PCP into the drinks at a bar full of rednecks. If a person intended to kill someone on a bus, it would be much easier to wait until that person got off the bus and was alone. My guess would be this guy either had some kind of flashback, had taken some bad drugs, or had been otherwise tampered with somehow. Making a person go crazy and kill someone isn't that hard. There are many drugs that can set off the most peaceful individuals.
- Bobhuh, on 08/03/2008, -0/+7He changes seats to get closer to the victim. that's not premeditated?
- Speed, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Raider, it may have stopped the beheading, but Tim McLean was dead anyways. The killer sat next to him and subtly stabbed him first. Besides, if he was able to have a gun, he could have just open fired and took a whole bunch of people down. It's obvious he wasn't planning on escaping since he cut the guys head off.
- evilJaze, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1My guess is that first or second degree will not make much of a difference if the accused is a nut bar. Either way he'll be thrown in a looney bin for a few years and then released into the public (hey, this IS Canada after all). They probably just want to throw a charge at him that has the highest probability of sticking just to get a conviction.
- chaos7, on 08/02/2008, -3/+13maybe cuz it probably wasn't premeditated
- dbhalla, on 08/03/2008, -0/+33I took this from Wikipedia for reference:
In Canada, murder is classified as either first or second degree.
1. First degree murder is a murder which is
(1) planned and deliberate,
(2) contracted,
(3) committed against an identified peace officer,
(4) while committing or attempting to commit one of the following offences (hijacking an aircraft, sexual assault, sexual assault with a weapon, aggravated sexual assault, kidnapping and forcible confinement or hostage taking),
(5) while committing criminal harassment,
(6) committed during terrorist activity,
(7) while using explosives in association with a criminal organization, or
(8) while committing intimidation.
2. Second degree murder is all murder which is not first degree murder.- d0nk3y, on 08/03/2008, -2/+7In that case, I'm sure many of the passengers were pretty intimidated. (8) I don't understand how you wouldn't be..
- tidu, on 08/03/2008, -7/+2"peace officer"
hah that's not what we call them down here ;) - jakeshdaddy, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6That's EXACTLY what we call them down there.
- rohan1234, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3He did try to drive away the bus after so that might satisfy (4) plus he terrorized a lot of people who were planning on taking buses, for (6).
- andymadigan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Pretty much the same thing in the U.S.
@d0nk3y
I'm guessing #8 is directed towards coercion, though I'm not sure why it doesn't just say coercion
@tidu
I'm sure you were joking, but actually in most states (if not all) the law does read "peace officer"
In some states (e.g. Texas) I think 1st degree also includes the murder of a child under a certain age (e.g. 3)
Also, in some states they are simply called "capital murder" and "felony murder" as only 1st degree gets the death penalty. - Speed, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4It would be idiotic to file for first degree with the information that is known right now. The first 8 are obviously out, and number 8 wouldn't count since he was scaring the ***** out of the passengers, but he wasn't attempting to intimidate them into doing stuff (do this or you die). Also, all testimony says the guy was very robotic, in a near-trance like state, the prosecutors are probably just trying to make sure he doesn't get off on the basis of mental defect.
In all honesty, it would probobly be better if he was found not-guilty by reason of mental defect, since our prisons aren't any worse than asylums, and if he's committed, he's there indefinitely (well, until the doctors figure hes well, which is never for most illnesses). Either way, if he gets jail, chances are slim the ***** will do more than 10 years with our ***** ass laws (and over crowding).
- gdip181, on 08/03/2008, -1/+6Li's crime appears to not have been pre-meditated...as required in Canada for a First Degree offense.
- fenderbiz, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3I don't know either. How much time has to elapse for it to be considered first degree? Technically he did plan it...right before he did it. His premeditation period was short, but does it matter?
- cnosal, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2@fenderbiz - but then 'short time' becomes vague. technically any action is premeditated in the preceding seconds.
- arah91, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Not if you where on drugs and did not know what you where doing. I am not saying this guy was ,but i am just saying you could think you where ridding a unicorn and controlling the rains but only its a gun.
- SLockhart, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2To add to the above explanations: You get just as long a sentence for second degree murder as you do for first.
- mizike, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2Not really; they're both carry sentences of life imprisonment, but with first degree murder you have no chance of parole for 25 years, whereas with second degree you are eligible for parole after 10 years.
- EdmontonEh, on 08/02/2008, -0/+76First means he planned it in advance, this was a spur of the moment killing; second degree.
- lucy22, on 08/02/2008, -17/+11Sick, evil Ba-tard can rot in hell.
- sockpuppets, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4You can say bastard on Digg.
- EarlOfLade, on 08/03/2008, -2/+3There is no such thing as Hell, it's fictional!
- mattbatt77, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1and you're so sure of yourself because . . .
- iizh, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Ple*se st*p c*ns*ring.
- ciaoamica, on 08/02/2008, -7/+24insane... I don't understand people...
- microchp, on 08/03/2008, -2/+3Read some of Sigmund Freud's works. Great, but scary stuff. People (all of them, you and I, everyone) are capable of some crazy, demented and evil things.
- Speed, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4Freud has been largely discredited, actually. It's now believed that many of the things were problems with Freud and he thought he was perfectly normal.
- HonestAbe, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4Freud was a pseudoscientific loon. No one but college freshmen take him seriously.
- Speed, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4Sorry for the double post, but what you are thinking of is probably Phillip Zimbaro's Stanford Prison Experiment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_exper ... Or even the Milgram experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
- microchp, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2Nah, he has not been discredited by anyone worthy of mention. Yes, he was an erogant bastard and got a little bit ecentric and crazy towards the end when he got cancer, but he found some very interesting things about the primative parts of the human mind. Anyway, just because someones classmates think they are a loon does not make them any less a great doctor. If that had any merit, then many great minds of our past would have been discredited.
Yes the prison experiments were also pretty cool. There was a documentary on that a while ago on the discovery channel. - Speed, on 08/05/2008, -1/+2microchip, the Oedipus Complex is mostly discredited, as is his work on the unconscious, and the whole repression thing.
- microchp, on 08/06/2008, -0/+1Where is this written? By whom? Again, just because someone says work is discredited, does not mean that it is.
- microchp, on 08/03/2008, -2/+3Read some of Sigmund Freud's works. Great, but scary stuff. People (all of them, you and I, everyone) are capable of some crazy, demented and evil things.
- gplpark92, on 08/02/2008, -16/+11Canadian Psycho?
- sjug, on 08/02/2008, -7/+8Seems to be a Chinese Psycho..
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -2/+4Nah. Someone with a Chinese name can be just as much a Canadian as someone with an English or German name.
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -2/+4Nah. Someone with a Chinese name can be just as much a Canadian as someone with an English or German name.
- sjug, on 08/02/2008, -7/+8Seems to be a Chinese Psycho..
- AndreiOttawa, on 08/02/2008, -27/+22RCMP should have quietly shot this guy right there in the bus (or tazered him until dead). I hope they'll take him out in the middle of the winter and leave him somewhere in the arctic as bear snack.
- chaos7, on 08/02/2008, -17/+12grow up
- Esstee, on 08/03/2008, -3/+12Dude get your ***** straight.
The police "DO NOT" taze criminals.
Such measures are reserved for traffic violators and colored people. - Wilf55, on 08/03/2008, -2/+4Or maybe the people on the bus could have subdued him before running screaming off the bus ?
- Nearoschyth, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2You can say that as much as you want now, but you have no idea what kind of reaction you would have until actually put into such a situation.
- cutchyacokov, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2I was going to go into a short diatribe about how we, as Canadian citizens, are well beyond capitol punishment, but; noticing your nic and avatar, I suppose I have to eat my words.
- paradigmx, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Born and raised Canadian here, in fact, born and raised Edmontonion.
Burn the ***** at the stake!
- welliwonder, on 08/02/2008, -53/+3wow that guy had a really thick neck!
- DefenceMinister, on 08/02/2008, -23/+13He didn't utter a word? Well then skin him until he realizes what he's done.
- chaos7, on 08/02/2008, -14/+7grow up
- DefenceMinister, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Wanted to see people's reaction, thanks!
- ordig, on 08/02/2008, -78/+10Victim needs a haircut, Just sayin.
- tomjeff08, on 08/02/2008, -8/+21You have to be the biggest ***** douche there is. It saddens me knowing people like you exist.
- jfran, on 08/02/2008, -4/+13you are ***** evil man thats ***** up and you know it
- burninlover, on 08/02/2008, -6/+29Have some respect, the poor guy was killed for no reason. And all you have to say is he needs a haircut? Grow up.
- stagmire, on 08/03/2008, -14/+11Sounds like he got one.
- Impeller, on 08/03/2008, -3/+3See you in hell...
- tomjeff08, on 08/02/2008, -18/+32Don't be surprised if Li ends up dead well before his trial completes. I'd like to hear more about his background. The facts I've seen thus far support the theory that his mind was no longer his own. It's one thing to be crazy. It's another thing to gut and decapitate a man while calm as a librarian.
I truly feel for the victim's family.
I will be astonished if Li doesn't have an "accident" within a short period of time. Not that it would be a bad thing but I think there's a hell of a lot more to this story.- arah91, on 08/02/2008, -2/+11Are you talking about death note?
- DarkoKun, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1KAMI!!!!
- l31101, on 08/03/2008, -1/+10What the hell are you talking about? Who's gonna kill him? This ain't a political scandal, so these "accidents" aren't likely to happen.
- SPARTACVS, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2My first thought was the same as yours, but now I'm thinking the OP was referencing him offing HIMSELF bro.
- NuclearIsShit, on 08/03/2008, -0/+27I agree, his behavior is just to strange to account for. He just gets up one day and tells his wife he has something important to do. Tells his boss that he needs to take a few days off. Then he hops on a bus and next thing you know he is chopping off some innocent young man's head and eating his remains.
Now that is stranger than fiction.- Professr, on 08/03/2008, -6/+2Nothing is stranger than fiction. Rule 34 is a perfect example.
- dwrecktion, on 08/03/2008, -6/+2This is another case of Psy-Ops
- s0rce7, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1I can't deny similar thoughts have crossed my mind the whole story just seems so strange and makes no sense. It seems there was no reason behind it whatsoever. The man who committed these crimes needs to be seriously analyzed maybe if we could even understand his past a little glimpse at what's going on with the murderer psychologically. Question what is wrong with our society and/or with this man's life in general that would drive him to commit such a senseless act.
Our leaders don't seem to give a ***** about the average man, but it is reasons such as these that we have to strive for peace in the world. And not live in divided conflicting communities. Have real education and opportunities for people and so on. Even if it's just to prevent one incident such as this it would be worth it.
- arah91, on 08/02/2008, -2/+11Are you talking about death note?
- Pitofdoom, on 08/02/2008, -20/+7Thank God he didn't use a gun !
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -3/+3Imagine the mess he would have made trying to stab, behead and then cut up a body if he used a gun.
- Pitofdoom, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2Well at least the didn't misuse the U.S. 2nd amendment,
boy what a rant we'd hear about that ! - monkeymad2, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Considering he was in canada, you'd only hear a rant about how stupid you are for thinking that the US is the only country in the world.
- manitoba98xp, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3He couldn't misuse the Second Amendment – it's in Canada.
- Pitofdoom, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2Well at least the didn't misuse the U.S. 2nd amendment,
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -3/+3Imagine the mess he would have made trying to stab, behead and then cut up a body if he used a gun.
- TheDaveBoy, on 08/02/2008, -17/+1I wonder what he needed the scissors for, you'd think the hunting knife would be adequate.
- weswood, on 08/02/2008, -35/+7I wonder if he was trying to get ahead in life?
Yeah, I know... "***** you, two of my friends...." etc.- dbhalla, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7no... just no
- MaxIsBored, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1The guy surely didn't get ahead in his sleep...
- djcreamy, on 08/02/2008, -12/+6Article says the police leaked the tape. Link?
- evodude, on 08/02/2008, -1/+13It's embedded in the article....
That guy must be insane, seeing as how he was apparently eating the victim's flesh. - popfrogs, on 08/03/2008, -0/+15Yeah, this guy was/is ***** insane. The very last sentence in the clip, the guy says "uhh (garbled) is in the back of the bus...hacking off pieces and...eating it?". I think the question mark tone he uses is his own surprise at the fact that it's happening, he's seeing it and reporting it, and can't believe it.
Crazy. - RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -0/+8Links to the recording and transcript are on the page.
I doubt it was the police who leaked it. It's much more likely that some scanner enthusiest simply recorded it off his radio.
Almost all the police in Manitoba use MTS's Fleetnet trunked radio system. A lot of people listen to the Winnipeg and rural police and emergency channels on it. I live in Winnipeg, listen to the scanner once in a while, and have a couple related programming projects on the go.
The RCMP use Fleetnet, but their frequencies also use the APCO 25 digital system. Not as many enthusiests have APCO 25 capable scanners, (I don't.) but there's still quite a few. And some of them are known to post police chases and shoot-outs on the web. (Lately it's rare though.) - dwrecktion, on 08/03/2008, -8/+2This was PSY-OPS
- siszam, on 08/03/2008, -6/+1Seems like it. Haven't they been trying to ban knifes in Canada? This would certainly help those who wish to disarm the people.
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6>> Haven't they been trying to ban knifes in Canada?
Nope, not at all.
Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day just "dismissed talk by some opposition MPs of a ‘knife registry,’ saying that millions of them are bought each year simply for kitchen use."
But this was a sleazy straw-man arguement. There's no record of any MPs calling for a knife registry:
http://blog.macleans.ca/2008/08/01/btc-names-pleas ... - sg1fan, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2Uninformed blithering insane ramblings are her specialty. She's a fundamentalist christian. She doesn't let things like facts or reading articles get in her way.
- Speed, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2911 calls are often released publicly.
- Speed, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2Yes, I need to RTFA. I was just too lazy since Digg has some weird script which makes Firefox slow to a ***** crawl.
- dogfood, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2I have the same problem. Digg, test your new scripts in Firefox and on the Iphone. Who do you think you are catering to?
- evodude, on 08/02/2008, -1/+13It's embedded in the article....
- Pignanelli, on 08/02/2008, -17/+9I knew those damned video games were going to cause problems!
- bratterscain, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5I'm so glad it wasn't mentioned he was a videogame player or else we wouldn't hear the end of it.
- arah91, on 08/02/2008, -68/+4***** YOU two of my friends died getting beheaded on a bus. lol first
- FreshPineSent, on 08/03/2008, -21/+3***** YOU two of my friends died using that stupid meme
- Lukesed, on 08/03/2008, -14/+3***** YOU two of my friends died getting ***** by you.
- Inohavehalos, on 08/03/2008, -1/+16Shut the ***** up.
- monkeymad2, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4Anyone says "Two of my friends died shutting the ***** up" (or any derivative there of) will be walloped in the nutsack, forcibly and promptly.
- monkeymad2, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4Anyone says "Two of my friends died shutting the ***** up" (or any derivative there of) will be walloped in the nutsack, forcibly and promptly.
- FreshPineSent, on 08/03/2008, -21/+3***** YOU two of my friends died using that stupid meme
- Huggr, on 08/02/2008, -9/+87My line of work deals with those who are mentally ill. I've seen countless random unprovoked acts of violence on a smaller scale (eye gouging, stabbing attempts, throwing chairs). These people all seemed pretty level 10 minutes before they snapped. It's only human nature to be absolutely pissed off at people who act this way, specially in this case. Remember though, in the absence of medical help, these people can't help it.
Now I'm not going to jump to conclusions and say Vince in mentally ill, because this outburst could be from a number of things. At first gland however, it does seem like he has some mental chemical imbalance. If that is the case, it is EXTREMELY sad and unfortunate that he had not been diagnosed earlier, preventing such a terrible terrible thing. I hope we never see this reoccur.
My condolences go out to the family and friends.- coreman, on 08/03/2008, -15/+7Remember though, in the absence of medical help, these people can't help it.
So? It doesn't excuse his actions or absolve him of responsibility. As he is now, he's a demonstrated threat to society at large. So he should be confined for that reason alone. His actions, whether he's "responsible" for them or not, means he needs to be kept from the rest of society.
I'm going to guess that the guy was diagnosed in the past with a mental disorder (paranoid schizophrenic - anyone want to give an over-under?), but fell through the cracks, one way or another.
If he is that far gone, he's no better or different than a large, historically predatory animal that has just killed or seriously injured a human being. His form is human, but that's about it.
If it were a dog/bear/elephant/tiger/cougar/whatnot, we'd be hard-pressed to NOT put it down, namby-pamby animal "rights" activists be damned.- appleseed1234, on 08/03/2008, -3/+9You didn't disprove anything he just said, there's no need to act like an edgy, reactionary douchebag.
- lemonlimeblog, on 08/03/2008, -1/+6coreman, that is a dangerous slippery slope to compare people with severe mental problems to animals. You say if it wer a dog/bear/etc..but he wasn't. He had no criminal record, he was not homeless, he was functioning on a level.
I have a double major in psychology and criminology. I'm not touting my eduction but I have studied several cases where paranoid pschizophrenics' operate on a different level mentally.
I get a sick feeling in my stomach when I look at the picture of his victim and the absolutely horrific way his life ended. I then feel guilty for thinking more about his killer rather than what his life would have been like. - crossmr, on 08/03/2008, -1/+10I guess you don't really understand mental illness and what compulsion and uncontrollable actions are. Until you've been in that kind of position it is difficult for a lot of people to understand what it is to be crazy.
- Dinosaur88, on 08/03/2008, -2/+6it does not excuse his actions at all, or absolve him of what he did. It simply just explains what MAY of compelled him to do what he did.
- andymadigan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6Huggr never said he shouldn't be punished, and he will be punished. The law recognizes that he needs to be.
Despite the potential for abuse, there really should be a system in place the evaluates the mental function of someone when they are released from prison, if they need help they should get it. This could also mean they get committed (thus the potential for abuse). - kingcam, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2"So? It doesn't excuse his actions or absolve him of responsibility."
Actually, I'd hate to tell you but in the entire tradition of Western Law disagrees with you here. In order to be responsible one must be mentally competent to stand trial. Now, it is a catch-22 becasue if not competent that you go to the mental hospital for the rest of your life. - paradigmx, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0BURN HIM AT THE ***** STAKE!
- poiuytrewq44, on 08/03/2008, -4/+6Agreed, he should go to a psyche ward instead of prison. (I'm highly doubtful that anyone will reject insanity on this). They're not that cushy either, you can stay indefinitely in a psyche ward first for monitoring then for perceived mental instability, even when you haven't done anything, just because someone files some paperwork. But this case is what psyche wards exist for. Actually a lot of times psyche wards don't even come to par with actual prison conditions (overcrowding etc.) :/
- andymadigan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3He should be in prison first, then in a psyche ward. In this case, sure, we know that he did it, but psyche wards without prison as policy is a bad idea. For one thing, the person *might* end up on the street a lot sooner. For another, someone who is innocent could get their freedoms taken away without a trial.
- wissler, on 08/03/2008, -16/+6Your line of work evidently exists in order to rationalizions for vile criminal behavior.
- EarlOfLade, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7And your existence is just to show how stupid a human being can get! Good job!
- mCanada, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4You're the reason FSM invented the bury button.
- wissler, on 08/03/2008, -5/+2And you two are a couple of sick bastards who rationalize the behavior of murderers who should be locked up or shot, not have excuses made for them.
- thestranger, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5wissler: there is a difference between reasons and excuses.
Reason is to show what caused a person to do something or act a certain way. Excuses is an active attempt to pass off the reason to something other than the person who committed an act.
We need to understand these actions, so we can prevent them from happening again. If we just shot everyone who did something terrible, and moved on....what would be gained from that? In both instances the victim is still dead. And in the latter, nothing is learned from the death of the victim
- EarlOfLade, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7And your existence is just to show how stupid a human being can get! Good job!
- wissler, on 08/03/2008, -8/+3"It's only human nature to be absolutely pissed off at people who act this way, specially in this case. Remember though, in the absence of medical help, these people can't help it."
Sick. You people are sick. This guy is a human being who chose to stab someone for no reason and cut off his head and then eat him. Even if you were right that he had no choice--and you aren't--it is completely irrelevant. Either he's sub-human by choice or sub-human from no choice. He's an animal either way. There's only one thing you do with dangerous animals who kill human beings: lock them up or shoot them. - WilliamAdama, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1eye gouging? wtf?
- Oea420, on 08/03/2008, -0/+7I've had first hand experience with someone like this...
Name was Cliff.. he was quite a good friend... started to show some early symptoms (unknown to us at the time.. talking about China having contact with aliens and whatnot)...
Suddenly he totally snaps, talking about Dr Seuss resurrecting people, cameras in his eyes, satellites tracking him etc etc etc... so he comes to my door one day flipping out at me.. accusing ME of being the one behind everything!
He was dead serious, and the look in his eye was something I will never forget.. I knew at that moment I had to do something to defend myself quick or my 'friend' was going to kill me.. I kid you not.. so I grab a crappy co2 BB gun.. and point it directly at his head and tell him if he doesn't leave i'm going to blow his head off (I feigned it was a 22, heh)... he then proceeds to back down, and screams SEE, See! He has weapons of mass destruction! Then he threatened to burn my house down.. at that point I called the cops.. as the police are talking to him.. he starts to accuse them of being in my pocket because they are obviously on my side, and the satellites are controlling them bleh..
it's so sad, but so real... i can honestly see how someone could do this.. sick, but real.- bipolarruledout, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2They say people tend to snap in their mid to late 20's. I really seriously worried that I might go insane myself for a while just because I fit the target demographic and really started to reject mainstream ideals. Oh course I'm not going to go off the deep end and kill someone but on a certain level you understand how this might be possible. Everyone needs to encourage people who they think might be mentally ill to get help. It's hard because physiatrists kind of suck but it's really the only option if drugs are really needed. People also need to know that there are people in their life that care about them. We are becoming increasingly disconnected from people everyday and it's not a good trend.
- Hodor, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2I had a friend who did a similar thing when he was in his early 20's. paranoid depression. it was scary/weird, definitely not something they teach you about in school. My friends and I took him to the hospital when he started talking about the voices and that we were out to get him.
- X9001, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7He killed a dude on the bus and ate part of him for no reason. I understand that this may be the result of some kind of schizophrenic condition or whatever but people don't just do that. He is still a menace to society sick or not, and even if he is treated and released back on the streets it doesn't mean this (or some related incident)isn't going to happen again. Putting him in a place like prison or six feet under is the best decision because that way you know he is never going to do it again.
- bipolarruledout, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2A difficult decision indeed. Fortunately I don't have to make it.
- cataxxx, on 08/06/2008, -1/+0You sound pretty crazy yourself....a little to calm for expressing your feelings about a BEHEADING. My opinion is that psychiatrists are as crazy as schizophrenics.
- coreman, on 08/03/2008, -15/+7Remember though, in the absence of medical help, these people can't help it.
- chiliwilli, on 08/03/2008, -24/+4fatality
- ilovethissite, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1I'm a fan of Mortal Kombat from the 90s, but even I find that immature to say in a tragedy like this.
- ilovethissite, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1I'm a fan of Mortal Kombat from the 90s, but even I find that immature to say in a tragedy like this.
- dha07030, on 08/03/2008, -0/+22Listen to the audio. It is the police radio and one of the cops talks about Vince Weiguang Li cutting off and eating parts of Tim McLean.
- teraken, on 08/03/2008, -5/+12Knowing the MSM, they'll probably blame this on either videogames or marijuana.
- Speed, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Actually, the media in Canada has been focusing on the crime itself. Assholes like O'Reilly and Coulter may hear about this, but I doubt there will be much talk about this in Canada.
- ostracize, on 08/03/2008, -0/+240 years old. I don't think that'll come up. If he was 18, yeah maybe.
- bryceman111, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2It's probably because of TWISTED SISTER music!
- ilovethissite, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1There's equal if not even more violence in film and TV than video games. Video games is nothing more than an adaptation of what's already produced in the entertainment media.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -10/+3Which parts?
- teraken, on 08/03/2008, -5/+12Knowing the MSM, they'll probably blame this on either videogames or marijuana.
- XternalHD, on 08/03/2008, -10/+3Only second degree?
- AshamedAmerican, on 08/03/2008, -0/+7Second degree is a spur of the moment killing.
- blup3ace, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1canada, not US.
- andymadigan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2The charge would be the same in the U.S. (or at least in NY)
- manitoba98xp, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2There's no evidence of premeditation, so yes, second degree is the relevant crime.
- disrupter, on 08/03/2008, -14/+3heads up to the officers for catching the killer
- RobotCitizen, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5Thumbs up?
- InfinitySnatch, on 08/03/2008, -0/+8Yeah, must have been a real chore considering he was trapped on the bus.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -10/+1Heads off to the victim.
- Adgeman, on 08/03/2008, -0/+7prick
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1So? Thats the drawback of free speech bitch. Sometimes people say things you'd rather they didn't.
- thestranger, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Exactly. He was simply exercising his free speech against your free speech......
- kowcun, on 08/03/2008, -3/+14Canadians better hope this guy never sets foot in the public ever again. Knowing our justice system not many people are actually in prison for their whole life.
- Farik, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5This guy will definitely qualify as a dangerous offender and thus rot in a cell for the rest of his life.
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -3/+2I doubt it. I think dangerous offender status is for repeat violent offenders - people with a *long* history of violence. This was they guy's first arrest.
- Farik, on 08/03/2008, -0/+10First arrest in which he has stabbed someone 60 times, beheaded, gutted and ate parts of him -- the guy isn't going anywhere and will likely be in a mental hospital or killed (or kill himself).
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Sure. But it's probably still considered one offence, one arrest.
But even without dangerous offender status, I doubt he'll walk the streets again. - Speed, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5With the intense media coverage of this crime, and the gruesomeness of it, this guy will rot. If not, I can easily see a hunting rifle going off wile being cleaned (especially if this guy comes back to Edmonton)
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -3/+2I doubt it. I think dangerous offender status is for repeat violent offenders - people with a *long* history of violence. This was they guy's first arrest.
- du4l1ty, on 08/03/2008, -0/+7This guy needs to go to jail for life. Even if he's mentally ill people that just snap like that are too much of a gamble to be released on the public in my opinion.
- infiniphunk, on 08/03/2008, -1/+18Just think, $50000/year of our tax-dollars to babysit this *****.
- Farik, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5This guy will definitely qualify as a dangerous offender and thus rot in a cell for the rest of his life.
- cbergstrom, on 08/03/2008, -12/+3Wait, second degree? What the hell is first degree then?
- MetalGear7, on 08/03/2008, -4/+6Retard....First Degree is Premeditated....Obv this was not premeditated...Do some research before you comment, we are not your teacher, Google can help you in life....
- gobbleplex, on 08/03/2008, -0/+6First degree is premeditated. Second degree is in the heat of the moment.
- ultraJesus, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5Degree is based on level of planning and intent, not "brutality" or some other *****.
- andymadigan, on 08/03/2008, -1/+11st degree, in general, is multiple killings, premeditated, or killing a cop.
- tramblings, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1I'm with you on that. He boarded the bus with a huge knife. Probably sat down next to the one he planned on killing. Then did it. Why else did he board the bus with a huge knife? He was planning on killing someone.
- MetalGear7, on 08/03/2008, -22/+4Fatality.....
- Thundercracker, on 08/03/2008, -17/+5"and Canada's evil oozes over the United States like maple syrup".........
- damian7, on 08/03/2008, -5/+3And America's festering cesspool of over the top gun violence, illegal immigrant invasion and large scale rapes threatens Canada's existence
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Relax. It's a quote from Canadian Bacon, by Michael Moore.
Faced with the end of the Soviet Union and the prospect of peace and massive layoffs in the defence industry, the US goes looking for a new enemy. They find Canada.
Another quote: "Surrender pronto, or we'll level Toronto!"
- RogerStrong, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Relax. It's a quote from Canadian Bacon, by Michael Moore.
- Chalks777, on 08/03/2008, -0/+8dude, maple syrup is good.
- damian7, on 08/03/2008, -5/+3And America's festering cesspool of over the top gun violence, illegal immigrant invasion and large scale rapes threatens Canada's existence
- NuclearIsShit, on 08/03/2008, -1/+72I live in the province where this happened, and in the paper it said that the passengers saw him eating some of the victims remains.
This guy is totally crazy, like something is very, very wrong with him. You don't just kill a guy, stab him like a machine, chop off his head and then start eating him if your having a bad day. You have to be a crazy bastard to do that.- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -8/+11like a fox!
- rinote, on 08/03/2008, -6/+3Holy vomit-inducing cannibalism, Batman!
- djsim, on 08/03/2008, -1/+6WTF?!?!
- Gemfinder, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3My point exactly. This guy is so far past the pale of insanity as to be inhuman. There are vampires who'd draw the line short of this piece of Wyrmspawn.
- Culero, on 08/04/2008, -1/+1Gonna Be a while? Have a.....
- baldboy7, on 08/03/2008, -16/+6his sentence should be an eye for an eye at minimum
- lemonlimeblog, on 08/03/2008, -2/+6oh ya..that makes sense. "what you did was so horrific and unreal that the world has been taken aback...so we're going to do it to you"
moron.. - crossmr, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5minimum? So someone should hack him up, cut off his head, and eat him..just to get started? Should we have someone ***** the blood remains? What is wrong with you?
- UltimatrixmaN, on 08/03/2008, -0/+0I completely agree with him.
If you don't want ***** up ***** happening to you, don't do ***** up *****.
Fairly straightforward and would save countless countries millions in tax dollars every year.
- lemonlimeblog, on 08/03/2008, -2/+6oh ya..that makes sense. "what you did was so horrific and unreal that the world has been taken aback...so we're going to do it to you"
- freethinkerusa, on 08/03/2008, -36/+5I guess this guy couldn't wait for "Saw V" to be released.
- Inohavehalos, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5Why must everything be a pun nowadays?
- PatrickBrown, on 08/03/2008, -3/+1I am tired of introducing people to the internet.
- jcaffoe, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1good one?
- Inohavehalos, on 08/03/2008, -1/+5Why must everything be a pun nowadays?
- piper999, on 08/03/2008, -14/+2Second degree murder? What would he have had to do for it to be first degree?
- imnojezus, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2Premeditation. Spur of the moment killing is second degree murder.
- peticsu, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2plan it in advance
- planck6626, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3"1. First degree murder is a murder which is (1) planned and deliberate, (2) contracted, (3) committed against an identified peace officer, (4) while committing or attempting to commit one of the following offences (hijacking an aircraft, sexual assault, sexual assault with a weapon, aggravated sexual assault, kidnapping and forcible confinement or hostage taking), (5) while committing criminal harassment, (6) committed during terrorist activity, (7) while using explosives in association with a criminal organization, or (8) while committing intimidation. [32]
2. Second degree murder is all murder which is not first degree murder."
-Wikipedia
- imnojezus, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2Premeditation. Spur of the moment killing is second degree murder.
- cbergstrom, on 08/03/2008, -18/+3That was a joke, sorry. :P
- fearziz, on 08/03/2008, -17/+1Blame Canada!
- claco, on 08/03/2008, -18/+3"No Ticket!"
- Me0wmix, on 08/03/2008, -4/+8I live not far from where this incident, (actually just drive by the bus on my way back to Winnipeg from Brandon) and I'm thinking this guy must have had mental issue. What kind of person would start slashing a guys body and start to eat his parts.
- GiggleStick, on 08/03/2008, -4/+9Interesting, but what does your proximity to the location this happened have to do with your judgment of the killer's sanity. We're all pretty sure he was a nutjob, no matter where we live. And it's not like this is normal behavior anywhere.
A guy above proclaimed he lived in the same province. Unless we're talking about Prince Edward Island or something, that's not necessarily close to the incident.
- GiggleStick, on 08/03/2008, -4/+9Interesting, but what does your proximity to the location this happened have to do with your judgment of the killer's sanity. We're all pretty sure he was a nutjob, no matter where we live. And it's not like this is normal behavior anywhere.
- RobotCitizen, on 08/03/2008, -1/+431st degree = Stone-cold killer planning murder in advance.
2nd degree = Spontaneously went ***** crazy and killed someone.- Rohhob, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Either way you don't belong in society and proved just that.
- RobotCitizen, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1Me?! What did I do?!
Oh, that was a nonspecific "you". Nevermind.
- RobotCitizen, on 08/04/2008, -0/+1Me?! What did I do?!
- Rohhob, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Either way you don't belong in society and proved just that.
- jnovakii, on 08/03/2008, -7/+23What a scumbag. I can only imagine how terrifying this whole thing was in person.
- 4ntigravity, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7I don't know why you are getting dugg down.
I had a hard time just reading the article. I cannot imagine what the passengers in the bus must be going through right now.
- 4ntigravity, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7I don't know why you are getting dugg down.
- AsylumAleikum, on 08/03/2008, -24/+3Here's one for multiculturalism.
- atdigg, on 08/03/2008, -0/+9What culture has to do with this?
- wassim2k, on 08/03/2008, -0/+12Looks like he also took a bite out of the victim...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25966835/
"A police officer at the scene of a grisly beheading on a Canadian bus reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim's body and eating them, according to a police tape leaked on the Internet Saturday."- Inohavehalos, on 08/03/2008, -9/+3Did they have to say Grisly, because it was canadian?
- Protoman, on 08/03/2008, -2/+10***** this piece of *****. Let him rot away in prison for the rest of his life.
- andymadigan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Agreed, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this guy sitting a in a cell for the rest of his life. There's quite a lot wrong with him being released in the future just to go nuts and do this again.
- bane18, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Unfortunately, it would be a complete waste of money to keep this guy alive for that long
- sjps220, on 08/03/2008, -5/+92Try to show some respect for the kid who died by not using these articles as a springboard for your pathetic jokes.
- StevoJD, on 08/03/2008, -3/+19Kudos. The lack of respect is grotesque.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -29/+3What crap! You'd all have a good laugh if the victim was GW Bush and the jokes would flow like blood from a beheaded corpse.
- StevoJD, on 08/03/2008, -3/+19Kudos. The lack of respect is grotesque.
- Farik, on 08/03/2008, -10/+32Amazing how many people I've reported and blocked on this page...
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -47/+7You really are a spineless pussy then. Grow some balls and stop crying to your mommy when anyone says something your tiny little delicate girly ears don't want to hear.
- Farik, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7I'm not crying, they are simply retarded comments on a seriously ***** up situation.
- mattbatt77, on 08/04/2008, -0/+2banmaster has been blocked
- Farik, on 08/03/2008, -4/+14And add another one to the pile.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -10/+4Diddums, is free speech hurting your poor pathetic sensibilities!!
- Farik, on 08/03/2008, -2/+5This isn't about free speech, I'm happy you can say anything you want, and I'm equally as happy to simply block comments that have no purpose other than to troll or pretend to be insensitive.
- dogfood, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Buried, reported, and blocked.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -47/+7You really are a spineless pussy then. Grow some balls and stop crying to your mommy when anyone says something your tiny little delicate girly ears don't want to hear.
- saqer, on 08/03/2008, -28/+4It's terrible. No one relishes what happened. Everyone sends their condelscences...yada yada yada. This is the 3rd ***** article about this incident. It's time to to move on. Violent crimes happen every day in this wretched side of the world, let alone the whole ***** world.
- ren1999, on 08/03/2008, -14/+14I'm sure the guy was insane, but that is no excuse to keep him locked up in a mental institution where he will only be let out in a few years to do this again. People don't feel safe with the justice system. They will all start to carry guns if they don't feel they can be protected on a bus.
So,
take Vince out to a stake and burn him alive feet first in public. Film it and put it on YouTube for everyone to see what happens when you murder someone. Hey, Vince murdered in public. It is only fair that he be executed in public. An eye for an eye.
Spend more money to identify people who are a danger to the public and keep them in mental institutions.- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4"Put live executions on television, during half-time of the Monday Night Football game"
~RIP- Inohavehalos, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2"An eye for an eye... and the whole world will be blind"
~I don't know who said this. - monkeymad2, on 08/03/2008, -0/+3Ghandi, I think.
I think we should just paralyse them in a reversible way, then put them into matrix style machines and extract power from them. Sci-Fi, sure, but a lot more useful than having them be a burden on the tax payer... - manitoba98xp, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2@Inohavehalos
"An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind." (Mahatma Gandhi) - andymadigan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Gandhi
"An eye for an eye just leaves the whole world blind" is how I remember it. - HonestAbe, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1@monkeymad2:
What's wrong with a lifetime of forced labor? Not sci-fi enough for you?
- Inohavehalos, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2"An eye for an eye... and the whole world will be blind"
- funklor, on 08/03/2008, -5/+7Wow, congrats, you're just as much a sick ***** as he is!
News flash: When you snap, you're not going to be thinking about the consequences of your action. The only people who you could hope to convince are the people that actually plan on committing murder. Chances are however, that if you actually plan on killing someone you're so ***** up you're not going to be concerned with consequences either.
America has proved with it's awesome murder rate that deterrence is fiction. - kangyc, on 08/03/2008, -1/+0"an eye for an eye makes the world go blind"
burn the mofo at the stake? we might as well bring him to gitmo and waterboard him to death.- HonestAbe, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1Fine with me.
- shaneomac27, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4i think we should chop his head off publicly
- bipolarruledout, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2It takes a certain kind of maturity to reject the death penalty.
- johndavidjack, on 08/03/2008, -0/+4"Put live executions on television, during half-time of the Monday Night Football game"
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -32/+3well, this is truly shocking a gruesome and horrible and all of that, but after all the shock and under all of the anger and sympathy, you just gotta step back, look at it, and admire the balls this guy had. i mean, really, who the ***** does something like this? i think about doing things like this all the time, but that thin line of good/evil keeps me on the good side. this guy had some brass balls to cross that line and do this. bold *****. if only i could be that confident in every decision i made throughout the day.
chances are he just snapped and was acting involuntarily anyway, but i like to think of it as a well thought out attack involving a conscious decision to cross that line.- nutniqs, on 08/03/2008, -3/+13shut up
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -10/+2shut up? how old are you? six?
***** off. - weswood, on 08/03/2008, -2/+3***** off? Are you fantasizing about brutally murdering him if he doesn't? Weirdo...
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -10/+2shut up? how old are you? six?
- LongBong, on 08/03/2008, -2/+10you should really consider getting mental help if you ponder ***** like that. or maybe you should just go ahead and try it on your self. "cross the line" you f.u.c.k.i.n.g prick
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -7/+2you can say all you want about me, but at least i dont have any hangups about typing the word "*****" and posting it in a public forum. you ***** pussy.
anyway whats wrong with trying to find out how the criminal mind works? theres a ***** entire job category devoted to people who do just that. and get paid rather well i may add.
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -7/+2you can say all you want about me, but at least i dont have any hangups about typing the word "*****" and posting it in a public forum. you ***** pussy.
- MSweerts, on 08/03/2008, -1/+7gl77, please identify what kind of transit you normally use. Just for the record.
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -5/+2usually i just use whatever is convenient at the time. bus, taxi, backseat of your car.....oh wait...
- stinkymonkey, on 08/03/2008, -4/+6"and admire the balls this guy had" ....
"but i like to think of it as a well thought out attack involving a conscious decision to cross that line"
You sir, are a sick ***** and a coward to hide behind Digg.
I can actually understand the stupid jokes, because those people want attention, but admiring a criminal and his commitment level to the point of verbal masturbation is twisted logic on any level.- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4so anyone who ever investigated a criminal mind and admired aspects of it is a "sick *****"? tell that to those people who do this for a living. there's no harm in having some sort of interest in what makes a person tick. and even less harm in admiring certain aspects of what makes people do what they do.
but then again, i would expect nothing more from a person called "stinky monkey" - stinkymonkey, on 08/03/2008, -3/+2So anyone who ever investigated a criminal mind and admired aspects of it is a "sick *****"?
Yes, Exactly!!! You are a sick *****!!!
I bet you also admire Hitler and Bin Laden. - gl77, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4well you gotta admit, they are quite intriguing characters. apparently other people think so too, otherwise there would not be so many tv shows and movies about both of them. and there wouldnt be any historians who focus their field of expertise on these people. are they "sick *****" as well?
- izackcarson, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2gl77, the interest in how someone could be so deviant is understandable. any admiration is not.
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4so anyone who ever investigated a criminal mind and admired aspects of it is a "sick *****"? tell that to those people who do this for a living. there's no harm in having some sort of interest in what makes a person tick. and even less harm in admiring certain aspects of what makes people do what they do.
- monkeymad2, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3I expect to hear about a 30 something year old male being arrested in Jacksonville sometime in the future...
Seriously, what the *****?
Watch less Dexter and more, hell i don't know, I'd advise going outside but you'd probably "cross that line" or some *****.
On a lesser note HA you're admiring a guys balls.- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1jacksonville's murder rate is the highest in Florida, so chances are, you will read about a 30 year old male from jacksonville being arrested. it just wont be me. you people are just pissed because it seems that i am cold and have no compassion toward the victim. i didnt know the guy. but my condolences to his family and friends. it is a horrible thing and should have never happened. and apprently most diggers dont want to look at what makes humans do what they do. they dont want to be confronted with something about themselves which may scare them. they would rather bury their heads in the sand and not investigate anything at all unless it benefits them personally.
i just tend to look at things in a different light i guess.
on a lesser note, are you related to "stinky monkey" in any way? seems quite odd that i am being attacked by two monkeys.
and on an even lesser note... im not too impressed that you know how to read people's profiles.
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1jacksonville's murder rate is the highest in Florida, so chances are, you will read about a 30 year old male from jacksonville being arrested. it just wont be me. you people are just pissed because it seems that i am cold and have no compassion toward the victim. i didnt know the guy. but my condolences to his family and friends. it is a horrible thing and should have never happened. and apprently most diggers dont want to look at what makes humans do what they do. they dont want to be confronted with something about themselves which may scare them. they would rather bury their heads in the sand and not investigate anything at all unless it benefits them personally.
- decyx, on 08/03/2008, -2/+5You mean you admire the actions of a 200 lb. stocky 40 year old who, with a large hunting knife, surprised and killed a defenseless teenager? Yeah, sure. That's gutsy alright. What Vince did was not ballsy. Ballsy is running into a burning building that's about to crumble in order to save someone; ballsy is swimming in shark infested waters with chum strapped to your chest. What this cold blooded killer did was just tragic and cold.
"i think about doing things like this all the time, but that thin line of good/evil keeps me on the good side. this guy had some brass balls to cross that line and do this. bold *****. if only i could be that confident in every decision i made throughout the day."
Everyone struggles to keep their demons at bay, not just you. Oh, and confidence comes naturally to people who are self-content and accepting of their faults. If you're looking at this act of cruelty for some inspiration on how to live life with confidence, then I seriously worry for your mental well-being.- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2thank you, doctor. i will take your advice. you are correct.
seriously, i find myself sitting here defending myself to bunch of diggers. more than likely, people sitting in their mom's basement.
after thinking about it, i really dont need to justify myself to you or any of the other people i have been defending myself to. i really dont care because you're all irrelevant. i dont know any of you and you dont know me.
after realizing this, i will resign myself from trying to justify my posting. it's there, it's what i think. and i dont care what anyone else thinks. much less anyone who will never impact me or my life like a bunch of people on digg. - Galaxylander, on 08/03/2008, -1/+4You're a Digger, you post here.
We don't /want/ you to justify your disgusting piggish crap here, because you're a worthless ***** and for all I care you should be thrown in jail with Vince so you can have the same ***** thing happen to you, and then while it's happening remember what you said here.
You're a *****, and I hope your family knows it so they can trap you in your closet away from the normal people in this world.
- gl77, on 08/03/2008, -2/+2thank you, doctor. i will take your advice. you are correct.
- Sroek, on 08/03/2008, -3/+4In a way, I actually do kind of agree with you. There is some perverse aspect of me that admires what Cho Seung-Hui did at Virginia Tech. Mainly because he was a straight up martyr and perished carrying out his master plan. He decided to retaliate against the world that provoked him.
- decyx, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3First things first, a martyr is a person who dies for the sake of belief or principle; Cho Seung-Hui died, because life was hard and rather than manning the ***** up, he ended up terrorizing defenseless people, many of whom had never even met him prior to the shooting. To me, he's nothing but a weak, cowardly scumbag who took the easy way out. Nothing against you personally, Sroek; I just have no kind words for him.
- Gemfinder, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2It's good that you're open-minded and all, but you're so open-minded your brains have fallen out.
- nutniqs, on 08/03/2008, -3/+13shut up
- JudgeDredd, on 08/03/2008, -12/+6Well, that makes my head hurt. Canada had the audacity to charge a guy with murder after many witnesses saw him parading around with a decapitated head? My mind fears that Canada is heading into the nanny state style of government that Britain enjoys. They already have very strict gun control laws. Anyone with a head on their shoulders knows that a psycho will kill with whatever is available, whether a knife or a gun. I hope this puts some headlights on the Canadian parliament.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5Were those references to 'heads' deliberate?
- JudgeDredd, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Mind your own business. I am heading out to a bar.
- Sakumi, on 08/03/2008, -0/+7Your comment makes MY head hurt? The audacity to charge him with MURDER, after he.. MURDERED someone.. wtf?
- beasty_dave_Mk2, on 08/03/2008, -1/+1 I'm sure we'll form an inquest, spend millions on the investigation, ban knives over 6" in length, more security hassle for traveling, yada yada yada...if thats what ya mean by "...putting some headlights on the Canadian parliament..."
- JudgeDredd, on 08/03/2008, -3/+1Congrats! You guys have less of a sense of humor (humour for you Canucks) than the /. crowd.
- weswood, on 08/03/2008, -1/+0Thanks for the heads up.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -0/+5Were those references to 'heads' deliberate?
- saturninus, on 08/03/2008, -10/+2Fatality!
- aphexcoil, on 08/03/2008, -9/+44Guy needs to be killed humanely. No counseling, no drugs, no rehabilitation. Just put him to death quietly after long interviews so that we can learn just what the ***** went wrong in his head and use this horrible crime as a chance to help others before they do something similar.
Sorry, but if you stab someone 100+ times, behead them and then eat their flesh, you revoke your license to life.- ordig, on 08/03/2008, -6/+29Or you become the leader of a small third world country, with a little help from the CIA.
- fish0507, on 08/03/2008, -1/+3Oh very very witty and with such factual truth, dugg up!
- pook187, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1I wish I had 4 hands to give that comment 4 thumbs up.
- sjm20k, on 08/03/2008, -3/+1says you.
- ordig, on 08/03/2008, -6/+29Or you become the leader of a small third world country, with a little help from the CIA.
- wolot, on 08/03/2008, -12/+4that's Manitoba for you..doesn't even surprise me
- SilverBlade2k, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2insensitive prick.
- MylesMan, on 08/03/2008, -0/+1You just beat seacrest for world's biggest douche, assbag!!
- Wakkyweed, on 08/03/2008, -15/+2As the Queen of Hearts so aptly put it, "Off with his head!"
- Wakkyweed, on 08/03/2008, -0/+2Vince Weiguang Li's head that is, in case that wasn't clear.
- banmaster, on 08/03/2008, -1/+2But if this was a disney movie instead of blood, yellow and purple butterflies would have come out and they'd share a drink about it afterwards.
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