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- spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29Upcoming Story: War on Arson declared by Bush.
- endlessraining, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29They should use the water from the floods we've had here in England.
- ericatha, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26or the endless rain from your name
- vault, on 10/10/2007, -2/+16Would've been nice for CNN to say what group was suspected of starting the fires, not just "extremists."
- spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13stop watching tv period
- bomb288, on 10/10/2007, -6/+16I thought it said "Geek government" when i first read the title, and it confused me a bit.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -4/+14"SPARTAAAAANS! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL"
- subterfuge, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10i prefer the lyric from the song "mass destruction" by faithless: "misinformation is a weapon of mass destruction"
- Puppetfunk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8And then he has us invest half our military budget in outfitting all the troops with flamethrowers so we can fight the arsons, fire with fire.
- burkay, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8No, it is a cave complex under the sea, just below New Zealand. Check google maps.
- knobidy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Okay, this is the sixth or seventh time I've seen you posting the same comment. I don't like Bush either, but trolling is not the way to get the word across. Grow up, and get a life.
Welcome to the blocked list. - mikev, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7I'm from Greece and I must say, we're the most careless country. The fires have been going on since June and all that is being done is constant media reporting. The actual efforts to do anything are quite pathetic. At first they were due to natural causes (quite popular here) however now 150+ fires after 9:00 means it has to be organised criminals...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5With Gates, it'd be closed to everyone but a select few who get to see only a part of the democratic system at a time. With Jobs, it'd *look* open but we'd all have Trusted Persons Platform chips embedded in our brain so we couldn't be a citizen for any other country. With Linus, it'd be open and free, but communist.
- MiDri, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8Geek President, Jobs? Seriously? Think about that... put down the $8 mocachino, and think about that.
- HunterTV, on 10/10/2007, -6/+11We can haz reprezentashun?
- thewindfish, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5There are some groups of "extremists" who do what they do for the sole purpose of calling attention to their organization, and i'm sure CNN wouldn't want it to seem like they were giving into this kind of thing.
- Puppetfunk, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"Every piece of Greek parchment shall be burned. Every Greek historian and every scribe shall have their eyes put out and their tongues cut from their mouths!"
- SopMan99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Any specific mention as to whether the fires are on the mainland or the islands?
- Barbas06, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3/Kala tha kanei anaisthite malaka
- kettlechips, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Actually, it is real estate developers, they want to build on the protected land and get it cheap.
- mastaphoo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3OK, really? like i know you might like apple and all, but really? do you actually know enough about the guy to say "hey he can represent us" or are you just blindly saying hey big cheese of a huge company i like, be my voice! THINK.
- klank, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Did it....Stress level went way down!
- JasonMaloney101, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Does it come in chocolate?
- doskir, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3at least bill knows how to code but my vote is for the woz
- Jerky1312, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Someone mentioned it in a reply, but this is the act of real estate developers who need more land to develop, but can't legally due to forrestry protection laws. 20 fires don't just erupt over one night. It's unfortunate, but this is what money does to people. This is not something specific to Greece, the same thing has been occuring in Southern Turkey, in resort cities. Protected forrests are burned down and eventually real estate developers just build on those lands.
- gojcaj, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4"Authorities believe arsonists may be responsible for some of the blazes."
whew only some of them. thankfully not all. - xNIBx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The greek government offers 100.000 up to 1.000.000 euros as a reward to anyone who offers information which leads to the arrest of the arsonists.
- skulljar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No way. The TV made me a comfortable bed of lies. The internet brings me the murky ocean of truth.
- xNIBx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Some fires started due to natural causes(high temperatures, low humidity, high winds) or accidents. Some fires were probably initiated due to real estate interests. But there are many fires which took place in areas with little real estate value and which started close to each other and during the night. This gives the illusion that they were planned by someone.
So who started those fires? Some say "extremists" started the fires but what "extremists"? Greek anarchists/leftists? Most leftists/anarchists are environmental "friendly" :P, not to mention that if you want to make an anti-government statement, you wouldn't burn a damn forest in the middle of nowhere.
Maybe it was some Turkish, Albanian, Jewish, Martian, Inner Earth saboteurs? Yeah, whatever. I am sure they tried to start fires all over Greece in the past, but the Epsilon team stopped them by using advanced subatomic technology from Andromeda. So it cant be foreign saboteurs.
It doesn't make any sense. But it isn't that important IMO. What is really sad is how our political parties are trying to take advantage of this situation. The government wants to convince us that this is "an attack against Greece", a bit like 9/11 so that people will gather around and support the government while the opposing parties try to point out how useless the current government is(but somehow forget that when they were in government, they were equally useless).
The truth is that our current government is indeed useless.That combined with "ideal" weather conditions(temperature/humidity/winds) that favored fire spreading, brought us to where we are right now.
And no, these fires ha vent been raging at the damn countryside for months. Yes, we do have fires in the summer but all fires are extinguished within hours or couple days(and current fires are no different). But this time we had more than the usual amount of fires combined with adverse weather and useless government which lead to loss of lives.
I find it unacceptable that people lost their lives because of fires. Send the ***** helicopters and evacuate everything(forcefully if you have you). If civilian rescue helicopters aren't enough, use military ones. Why did it take them for so long to evacuate the villages? Why are they still completely uncoordinated? Why didn't they use the damn army to open fireproof zones in order to prevent the fire from further spreading? Why didn't they ***** nuke the damn fire and show it who is the boss?
Btw, a Greek tv station(think of it as the equivalent of "Fox Network" in Greece) offered a 1.000.000euros(that's around 1.350.000 US dollars) to anyone who gives information which leads to the arrest and conviction of arsonists. Rofl, whatever. - KCorax, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Sorry for hijacking the thread, but being in Greece I'd like to certify that none talked of political extreemists, this is plain CNN FUD.
A couple weeks ago a member of the leading party suggested that the other parties are feeling happy about the fires granted elections are due in one month and he was immediatelly marginalized.
When fires are put intentionally here it's because someone wants to build houses in that forest area. Forest status is generally lifted in 5 years and then they can go about various ways into buying the land. - teaBagger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2English *****, Do You Speak It?
- burkay, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Is there a factory somewhere that mass produces your type? Because if there is one, I am gonna wrap some explosives around my body and run into that ***** hole.
- ipodgr, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The fires are all in the mainland ..
- titlesaysitall, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Hi, I'd like a reservation for 300 please.
- Dementual, on 01/27/2008, -0/+2I don't even know how you found that funny before you posted it.
- mike81890, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Wozniak 08!
- OsakaWilson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2It was 'them' as opposed to 'us'. Nothing more to see here, move along.
- skulljar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1but then we'd be up to our necks in owls, and out of a job.
- skulljar, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Sounds personal. Head to the armory to get your bore punched ASAP.
- Dementual, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1The fires have been going on for months. Today's casualties were the last straw.
- crushfan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=38.651198,23.510742&spn=5.507538,10.283203&z=7&om=1
- Dementual, on 01/27/2008, -0/+1Mainland. They've been raging through the country for months.
- Kniggit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've heard rumors that this was supposedly fringe elements in the political party PASOK that organized this to create a scandal to get rid of the currently ruling party. It's certainly far fetched considering that years ago it was the illegal Albanian immigrants or Turks or Greek land developers or some such blamed for doing the same thing.
(And I don't know what to believe, though it's theoretically possible to be one of those things above.) - mikev, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You obviously don't know Greece. The anarchists here burn things down, bomb restaurants and political buildings, etc. The country is more corrupt than people think. Fires are a serious thing because the windy nights and the very dry climate.
- mikev, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Pour some frappé on it!
- MagicCake, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1But then people will call him the Burning Bush and everyone will think he speaks for god, so that's no good either...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ella vre Malaka!!!....Who left the souvlaki stand unattended?
- GafferXL, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1"With the release of BioShock last Friday, the Geek government has declared a state of emergency, asking for a total cessation of work, and the captioning of all available cats."
- xNIBx, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1[quote]You obviously don't know Greece. The anarchists here burn things down, bomb restaurants and political buildings, etc. The country is more corrupt than people think. Fires are a serious thing because the windy nights and the very dry climate.[/quote]
I am greek and i live in Greece, how can i not know about Greece? Yes, we had leftists bomb places(not for blindly killing people, but just for destroying the building or killing a specific person) and assassinate specific people. But that has nothing to do with burning forests. Even if they wanted to burn a forest in order to pass an "antigovernment" message, they would/should have burnt some forest near a city. - thatgreekguy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2It really isnt a lack of effort. If anything, its just a lack of planning. Remember back in 02 or 03 when Greece was hit with its first severe snowstorm in years? There were only like what...4 snow plows in the entire country? people had to get on their pickups and drive around throwing salt from the trailers! Its the same scenario to an extent. Im not saying greece cant control a fire, but it doesnt have the firefighting force of lets say NYC. On top of that, the sheer magnitute of the fires is incredible. And they are out of control due to the seasonal heat and windy conditions, and that half of whats burning is dried up grass and weeds from unkept farmland.
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