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Girl Questioned after Threatening Bush on MySpace

startribune.com — The latest Sacramento resident to be questioned by federal agents for threatening President Bush is a 14-year-old girl who is passionate about liberal politics and cute movie stars.

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  • bjkrautk, on 10/12/2007, -10/+62"Federal law prohibits making true threats against the president, and Julia and her parents say what she did was wrong."

    Is there anyone who didn't already know this?
    (That said, I seriously doubt that they're intending to prosecute a 14-year-old.)
    • Vary, on 10/12/2007, -13/+35Yeah, it's clear they were just trying to make an example of her.
    • uncontested, on 10/12/2007, -26/+48A true threat? From a 14 year old girl posting on MySpace? Get a grip please.
      And making an example out of her? Again, 14 year old girl posting on MySpace. I'm sure the terrorists and real nutjobs are shaking in their boots.
    • Vary, on 10/12/2007, -5/+42Not an example to 'real terrorists', obviously. An example to vocal dissenters. As in, "yes, it really is against the law to threaten the president, and yes, we will enforce it as and when we please."
    • TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -7/+40Talking about killing the president is not the right way to make a political statement because that's no better than what you're fighting against. But before you start bashing her for being 14, it's also wrong to assume that because someone is a kid they're ignorant about politics. A lot of teenagers are smarter than they're given credit for.
    • griz, on 10/12/2007, -13/+21@ uncontested

      Yea, because 14 year olds are never a threat to anyone.

      http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27Feds and the Secret Service especially make it a point to check out thoroughly EVERY SINGLE threat against the President's life that they hear about. They'll go check whether it's a teenie bopper on myspace or a hardened assassin... but with the former, they'll say "Don't do that anymore, miss" and with the latter there will be a real investigation. Nothing to see here, guys, sorry.
    • Dustyb, on 10/12/2007, -16/+5"Yeah, it's clear they were just trying to make an example of her."

      But as a result this will most likely ruin any chance she'll have of getting a decent job, if this shows up on her record.
    • steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -27/+17Ok, guys, our "President" really sucks, lets go kill him. While we're at it, lets kill Cheney too, otherwise he'll be shooting everyone in the face.

      Please.
    • steelmaverick, on 10/12/2007, -16/+13Jack Thompson blames it on videogames.
    • Toon, on 10/12/2007, -16/+7I'm glad Jessica Alba's vagina isn't president. I've been threatening to murder that thing for years if I was ever given the opportunity.

      By the way, mod me down if you want, but I'm not afraid to talk politics and speak my mind about the fact that I'm happy a vagina isn't Commander in Chief. (I'm putting the kibosh on any "***** Commander in Chief" or "Commander in Queef" references--I'm trying to have a dignified discussion here and will not allow you all to take it into the gutter)
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5Like, see, steelmaverick, people have seriously been investigated for less than what you just said. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you got a knock on your door...
    • Vary, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Dustyb wrote: "But as a result this will most likely ruin any chance she'll have of getting a decent job, if this shows up on her record."

      If you mean her criminal record, that shouldn't be a problem. First, she's a minor, and second, she was never even arrested, just questioned.

      It'll certainly show up on a google search, but I can't see that hurting her too much. I've done a lot of hiring myself, and I wouldn't hold something like this against an applicant. And if she spins it right it'll make a hell of a college application essay.
    • awa1ct, on 10/12/2007, -16/+9I'm posting a bulletin tomorow.

      I'm killing the president.
    • NiteMayr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8When a Senator does it, is that okay?

      Just checking.

      (Do your own research if you don't get it)

      If ya don't:

      http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,981957,00.html


    • TheLlamaIs, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7It's al qaeda's new bad-ass plan. Send a white girl and her family over to America to make a wicked-bad Myspace and threatin the president, nobody will take her seriously...

      ...But little do they know!

      Mauahahahahaha and so on and so forth.
    • toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4sedition act. passed by john adams, a federalist. repealed by Thomas Jefferson, a republican.

      oh, how i wish the current republican party was the same as the party our founding fathers had, then i would support the republicans, but i have to chose the lesser of the two evils. democrats who want larger government but are less fundamental or small government (not anymore) and "moral" leaders.
    • vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"A lot of teenagers are smarter than they're given credit for."

      ...as evident by the "Kill Bush" message the girl was sending. "Hey, I kinda don't agree with this guy, let's just kill him." That's some pretty smart thinking right there.
    • sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2First: it was his hand she threatened, I didn't see any mention of killing in the article. Second: old-time republicans and democrats values were reversed, it was sometime in the early 1900's that they just kinda switched viewpoints with each other.

      And by the way: al qaida doesn't exist.

      Google video search for "the power of nightmares."
    • Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"...I didn't see any mention of killing in the article...."

      Um...3rd paragraph...
    • JustinCase18, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And no adult has EVER pretended to be a minor to get away with actions that would never be legal if they were an adult. Come on, the Secret Service has to investigate every threat, period. Once they can determine the extent of the threat, they go from there.
    • Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1a 14 year old girl none the less its a possible threat
      does that mean its a threat no
      does it mean that shes not a threat no
      its a big fat maybe that you all want to attack as stupid
  • Krutch, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7Anyone know the laws regarding this exact thing? By threatening the present are you not committing an act of treason. I am just wondering why the parents are disturbed that they would question here without them present. Anyone know?
    • jtizzle, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25If you threaten the present, you upset the future.
    • Persol, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26The whole treason thing in the US is somewhat hypocritical.

      Our nation was founded partly on the idea that we have the duty to overthrow a government that doesn't serve the people (see the Second Amendment). At the same time, treason is the highest crime.

      The constitution says:
      "Treason, then, is defined only as going to war against the USA, or aiding the enemies of the USA. To be convicted, the accused must confess to treason, or be accused by two direct witnesses of the treason."

      To be honest, threatening to kill the President seem much like 'treason'. In fact, that people are harassing a 14-year old in his name are reasons to threaten the President, as he's no longer representing us.

      His life should not be put on a pedestal because of his position, especially when the threatening. Law makers, at the state and federal level, continue to try and pass legislation that makes threatening them have worse punishments than threatening an average citizen. This is simply wrong.
    • Vary, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10Lolz, jtizzle.

      On Krustch's comment about questioning her without her parents present - while they did have the legal right to do it, it's still a little scary that they decided to grab her at school rather than at home, and didn't talk to her parents at the same time. Scarier for her, because an interrogation would be a little less frightening if Mom and Dad were around. Scarier for them because it kind of implies that they suspected her parents of influencing her somehow.

      "Now, little girl, tell us the truth. Are your Mommy and Daddy terrorists?"
    • PopcornDave, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6@titlesaysitall

      Talking to her for 15 minutes is hardly grabbing her. Get a grip.
    • jm9206755, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Law enforcement agents are not allowed to question a minor without at least one parent being present except, perhaps, if the minor agrees to. I have no idea whether or not the girl in question was given the option but that is probably where the surprise came from.
    • vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3"Scarier for her, because an interrogation would be a little less frightening if Mom and Dad were around."

      Should they have brought candy for her too? And maybe a couple video games and magazines in case she got bored?
  • titlesaysitall, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1714 year old and politics, in the same sentence? No way!
    • redpickle, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14Hell, it makes me proud that young people are getting involved (although in this case, a bit more drastic way than most).
    • tidu, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Making death threats doesn't sound like politics, sounds like something she heard in a song or on the internets and believed it.
    • sporkwitch, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Guess it's a good thing she didn't make a death threat then. I'm sure that stabbed-hand collage would result in a quick death if she went through with it *cough*.
    • geneseepc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That really isnt much of a serious threat, although its obviously not a smart thing to say...

      But i'm also impressed she has any opinion at all. I know i didnt at that age..

      I have some things i've always wanted to bring up to your government, but quite frankly it seems like they would toss me in jail for even realizing their own stupidity on a few local policys they have done.

      OH well, maybe another day.
  • mywhitenoise, on 10/12/2007, -22/+8Someone needs to stop talking, and just do it.
  • jumba911, on 10/12/2007, -21/+9I'm with her! anyone else?
  • theantidote, on 10/12/2007, -6/+34As much as I hate the President's policies I would never consider killing him. That's just stupid.

    Besides I thought it was common sense that you aren't allowed to make death threats against the government, just like you can't try to photocopy money.
    • smkelly, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Indeed. This is what is supposed to happen. If you threaten the President, expect to be visited. It just isn't a smart thing to do, and not very cool either.

      I mean, come on. Do you really want Cheney in that chair?
    • elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+18Well, the only way to see what will happen is to test it.

      I will kill the president.
    • one1plus1one, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8@mywhitenoise & @jumba911

      You realize you guys just threatened the President. I guess that means 2 more investigations are coming up your way?! (Jumba's case is not going to be helped by his ID containing "911".)

      I don't think anyone should threaten the President of the USA. That is the beauty of the American system, despite all the faults and criticism of the USA. If you don't like the President, then you simply don't vote for him (or her), or that party in the next election. There is no need for violence in order to have radical change in government.
    • polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Yeah Photoshop won't even let you scan it.......uh uh .....I read that somewhere....
    • neko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yes, kill him and he will become more powerful than we could ever imagine.
    • Bhima, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3You are right... no one should kill George W. Bush or Dick Cheney...
      Impeach them, Indict them and then incarcerate them...

      Actually once they are incarcerated they should be sent to the Hague and tried for starting a war under false pretenses.
    • jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3i'd rather see Bush humiliated when the dems win and launch criminal investigations into Bush's... well, everything he's done since 9/11

      only that would be a true vindication for all he's made the world suffer
  • thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -16/+6I threaten the President if he dosn't withdraw from Iraq immediately! Now come and find me bitch!
  • Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -5/+38Of course she got investigated, we all know 14 year old girls on the Internet are really 38 year old fat virginal men.
    • KingBelly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Then don't you mean, 'of course HE got investigated?
  • Boulevard, on 10/12/2007, -15/+13"The couple are disturbed however, that federal agents questioned a child at school without her parents present."

    But you have to ask what the hell they were doing while their kid was posting images depicting assassination of the President of the United States on the internets...

    Who's more retarded, the girl or her parents?
    • elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Missing option. The federal agents are more retarded.
    • asdfff, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5@ Boulevard:

      YOU'RE more retarded. It's a 14 yo girl on myspace.
    • KingBelly, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Oh ok, so I suppose you propse parents to sit with their children when they use the internet? Maybe that fits into your perfect view of things but in reality that doesn't happen and is not practical.
  • deuceswilde, on 10/12/2007, -17/+15Creepy, when did the Secret Service turn into the KGB
    • mhii, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17If it had been the KGB no one would have heard from the girl or her parents ever again.
    • SonicAD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4In Soviet Russia, President kill YOU!
  • netdroid9, on 10/12/2007, -18/+7What did she say, that Bush is a ***** and should be shot? Jesus, yet another case of 'You've got fredom of speech, so long as you say what we want you to say'...
    • Arramol, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20"Beneath the words "Kill Bush," Wilson posted a cartoonish photo-collage of a knife stabbing the hand of the president."

      It actually is the job of the Secret Service to investigate threats against the President, even if they come from a seemingly harmless source. Even with a 14 year old girl, there's no way to tell just from a MySpace whether it's a serious threat or not. She could have some sort of mental illness that makes her willing to actually act on these threats, as improbable as it may seem. At the very least, she was foolish enough to post that image on the Internet. I'm all for freedom of speech, but you can't cry 1st Amendment when you actually call for the death of the President and get slapped on the wrist for it.
    • zacmccormick, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16@netroid

      RTFA, it says she made a page that says "KILL BUSH" and underneath it a collage of photos of him getting stabbed with a knife. We have laws here, there are no absolute freedoms, "freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can say anything you want to whoever you want whenever you want. You have to exercise some moderation and consideration, and what she did is hardly that. Examples of restrictions of freedom of speech would be: lying in court, obscenity, defamation, slander, noise violations, the list goes on. Freedom of Speech is a wonderful thing, but like anything else in the world, it can be too much of a good thing, which is why we have such limitations.
    • neko, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4First they came for MySpace, and I said nothing because I did not have a MySpace page.
  • thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -20/+11While I would actively support an assassination on this monster I don't think it should be her. She'd probably miss.
  • kelpee, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12The point is not what she did, even she agrees that was wrong. The point is that Federal Agents pulled her out of class and questioned her without a guardian present. That's wrong.
    • uncontested, on 10/12/2007, -12/+11Yes that was indeed wrong.

      The fact that the Secret Service actually took her seriously is stupid.
    • Dewhead, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Several kids have been questioned about things they have posted on myspace. Stuff like wanting to kill kids at school and teachers and they have been arrested for it. If she was my kid, I would want her to be scared and embarrassed for acting like a moron. Maybe this girl will get a clue. It is so sad that our society has become so disrespectful towards elected leaders.
    • toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5@dew

      maybe we disrespect them because they dont deserve our respect. gone are the days of choosing the better candidate, now we just choose the lesser of two evils, maybe three or four if lucky.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4The Feds are required to take these things seriously, but you're right in that they should have had a guardian present.
  • strotee, on 10/12/2007, -20/+10It's SOP for the SS to investigate ANY and EVERY (no matter how silly) threat against the President. Of course, being that this is Digg and infested with young liberals who just fall into the "I hate Bush" mantra simply because it's the latest fad. Please don't allow those facts to interfere with your circle jerk of "OMG, those bastards.......!!!!!!111111eleventyone"
    • dan2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14You're right, Bush is the best president ever!
    • thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7You forgot the sarcasm tags.
    • spooky760, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8For someone who is against the liberalism on the discussion, probably not a good idea to refer to the Secret Service as SS. Tends to conjure up negative images. :-)
  • griz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"The couple are disturbed however, that federal agents questioned a child at school without her parents present."

    Agreed, were they afraid that if they approached the student at home that the parents would interfere?
  • bennyboy371, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10You remember when you're young and someone pisses you off, so you scream you're going to kill them? It doesn't mean literally.
  • thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10You call your country the land of the free. I've so gotta find a lawyer willing to sue the guy who said that. It's obviously blatant false advertising!
  • thefutureisours, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7damn terrorists are recruiting younger and younger these days. blame the evildoers.
  • andyzdigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9"because we all know how dangerous 14 year old girls are!" it is interesting that our tax dollars are being spent, surfing MySpace for threats against President Bush. i doubt Al Qaeda, Hizbollah, or Hamas members have accounts.
    • polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Although I see your point, they probably just have a crawler.
  • argoff, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7Ha, this is the real reason why they don't want adults talking to teens on myspace. The might actually have a chance of learning how bad liberal politics really is.
  • lazyguy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8Lets not even begin to say that this girl is smart enough to understand politics.

    She just got the anti-bush sentiment from some yuppie rock band on TV. Let it go.
    • polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Lets not equate age with intelligence.
    • KibibyteBrain, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Mozart
      Gauss
      List goes on...
      Smarter than me when they were nine.
    • vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"Smarter than me when they were nine."

      good for you?
  • Soldan, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6The law is the law...this might be a good civics lesson for the girl...

    heck you cant even kick a kitten everytime the president says something stupid..

  • markingtime, on 10/12/2007, -14/+814? Shes completely Ignorant. The reason she is Liberal is because among kids her age its the IN thing. someone that age doesn't understands politics, they Just go along with what their role models say.
    • jefffm, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11please, generalize more
    • Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Yeah, let's make generalisations about ALL teenagers! If they agree with their parents, they're just following a role-model. If they disagree, they're obviously just trying to be rebellious!
      /sarcasm

      No. As someone who went to a Christian Private school, I can assure you that yes, many kids will just go with the flow. However, there will always be younger people who know and understand the issues. I had to form my own opinions about politics. My teachers at that school were very conservative (and so were the students). A lot of what they said concerning politics did not really make senese, so I studied issues, and determined which party was most like the one I liked. My parents did not tell me their political positions until AFTER I had started ranting about the sheep at my school.

      We can assume all we want, but we don't know if she was a liberal because of her parents, her friends, or if she actually did research into the issues.
    • chmod, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I understand where some liberals would want to mod the parent down, but is it altogether untrue? Would you admit that it is even plausible? Celebrities are generally liberal (and our country is celebrity obsessed, especially young teens). Teachers and professors are generally liberal, and because of their proximity to our kids are fairly influential. And, yes, young people are often liberal as a whole. Is it a possibility that peer pressure does influence kids beliefs? Perhaps?

      I am 22 year old conservative male. I teach guitar in my community, and I am exposed to a lot of kids. A lot of them, not knowing my beliefs will occasionally make an extremely liberal (or anti-conservative) statement, and when I ask them why they feel that way they basically just stumble for some words and come up with little more than "I don't know". It could be that the implication of a dissenting opinion may be a bit intimidating, but many kids do form opinions on politics based on what they hear regardless of how they may feel about the details of a subject. I understand that you may feel quick to defend your political beliefs, but come one people.
  • nickdr, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7wow 14 year olds must know so much about politics. i bet they go whichever way their teachers and parents go.
    seriously how "passionate" is a 14 year old girl about politics. she probably doesn't even know the issues that each party is known for. 14 year old girls should be worried about stuff like the skirt they are gonna wear tommorow and the color of their fingernails.
    • thomasprebble, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14It is people like you that help keep your country ignorant.
    • schabrat14, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15@nick your comment pisses me off so bad! You should be banned from speaking ever again, for your blatant ignorance. Let me guess....when she is grown up and done playing with her finger nails and wondering about what skirt she is going to wear the next day.....she is to get married, cook meals, and tend to her family!!!!!! And her happy husband should be the one worrying about politics!!!!!!! Get a clue looser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@schabrat14

      Dugg up for sheer number of !!!!!!!
    • jabster, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2brat14:
      why the hell shouldn't a 14 year old girl be worried about the netxt day's skirt?

      I miss those carefree days. I wish that was all I had to worry about.....well, maybe not what -skirt- necessarily.....

      Get a clue yourself.
    • nickdr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1my comments had nothing sexist about them brat14. my point was aimed at the fact that 14 year olds shouldn't be that involved in politics. they are still kids, and shouldn't be troubling themselves with this.
  • Lane, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7i feel a federal bitch slap comming around. wait till her parents file their taxes this time around.
  • zeebee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Parents of minor children should be present during questioning, on any type of official basis.

    But, calm down, it's just a part of Bush's New
    "No 'Left' Child Left Behind Act"!
    • polyGone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2as opposed to major children?

      I'm sorry it was too easy....
  • schabrat14, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2The parents should be punished also....how do you not know whats on ur daughters myspace!?!?!??!?! I call bad parenting!!!!

    and @bennyboy......being 14 and screaming your going to kill someone when your pissed off at them is way different than designing a whole webpage against them, plus what did prz bush do to this 14 year old that made her that pissed....this goes a bit beyond a normal pissed moment.
  • jonesyhahaha, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17"Of course, being that this is Digg and infested with young liberals who just fall into the "I hate Bush" mantra simply because it's the latest fad."

    As opposed to young liberals who actually dislike Bush, because everything he does is regressive, because he is terrible for America, because he has caused the deaths of over half a million people (655,000+ Iraqis now, not counting U.S. troops, and the Afghani war), because he is ruining our future with his pro-global-warming policies, because he puts his own religious views above the humanitarian ethic founded and nurtered in this country for the last few hundred years...?

    You act as if the liberal party is composed of 16 year-olds who get all their news from the Daily Show. Welcome to the real world: grow up and get a ****ing clue.
    • RecklessProcess, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1The liberal base IS composed of teenagers who get their views/news from the Dailyshow. How can you deny it? Gore, Kerry, Reid, and all the favorites of moonbats have been on the daily show.

      Why are you denying it?
  • Growly, on 10/12/2007, -11/+9I thought the U.S. took supreme pride in its "freedom"? Is this not their fundamental justification for any action of state?

    All I see is totalitarian oppression grown more and more akin to that of George Orwell's 1984, every day.
  • bluto20, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6Never trust big government.

    This is an example.
  • greymaxcat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Viva El Presidente!
  • rcorrino, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6The Bush government already trampled on the rights of adult american citizens. What makes anyone think they care about the rights of children. And now it seems the Secret Service is becoming the Gestapo. Well, the name already fits.....
    • Dewhead, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4What rights of yours have been trampled on? Honestly, exactly how has your life become a living hell since Bush was elected? You need to open your mind and try looking at what is really going on with a logical head and quit buying into all of this Bush Bashing hype. I can't believe that some of you libs are so easily sucked into this--its like you have been brainwashed and are unable to do any type of critical thinking on your own.


  • crizpiz2, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Just curious but doesnt the 1st ammendment cover this? I could be wrong, but isnt it called free speech?
    • TheElectricFox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7nope....it never has and frankly you cant do that in any country
    • Dewhead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10No, threatening to kill someone is not covered under free speech.
  • Soldan, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I dont think being "liberal" is an in thing... there are a alot of logical reasons to oppose the current administation.

    The war on terror is formost...since it is not really possible to crush ideas through force.

    The public school system does give a full view of international relations so its hard for a young person to make an informed choice..

    still on the surface there are so many liars and crooks in the GOP right now you cant help but hate them... heck they make Newt Gingrich look like a saint..
    • Dewhead, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4There are many liars and crooks in the Liberal Party too. You are in denial if you deny that.

      www.judicalwatch.org
  • bikee4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Slightly off topic (but not really) Why is Kevin Rose too ***** to address political topics like this on Diggnation? Chist the guy don't even digg this sort of thing...kinda disappointed in the boy:( as for Alex...He's just an employee.
    • toppgun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2the politics of running a business sucessfully
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I guess you know all about the guy... except that he started this as a tech news site and probably just doesn't care to get into politics in the show. How is that so reprehensible?
  • jabster, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5And if this were a story about the feds talking to a 14 year old with a website about shooting up a school and killing all her classmates, you'd be praising law enforcement for averting a tragedy.

    Move on people. Nothing to see here. The secret service invstigates every threat against the President, no matter how minor it turns out to be.

    If not for all the BDS here, this wouldn't even be a story.
    • Clbck, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Which one is more plausibe? A 14-year old stabbing the president, or a 14-year old shooting her classmates?

      Statistically which has happened more?
  • gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8The president’s oath of office says "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.".

    I suppose that means he should kill him self and keep his oath.
  • gardnert1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I cast MY vote from the rooftop.
  • there, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I'm no fan of this administration but I don't think it's appropriate to threaten the President and the secret service did act responsibly. They don't know in advance if a threat is real or not and have to investigate.

    The fact she wasn't charged with anything even shows some common sense at work.
  • EvoldicA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Now she'll be stalked by the secret service for the rest of her life.. your tax dollars at work!
  • rushmc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5The President is an administrator, elected to do a job for 4 years. He's not a king. The laws that dictate what you can and cannot say about him, distinguishing him from any other American, are undemocratic and just wrong.

    Would the SS have visited her if her knife collage picture had been David Hasselhoff or Paris Hilton? Her best friend? Her teacher? The tax assessor of her county? The President should have no special rights that they don't have as Americans.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7He doesn't have "special rights"... he has a dedicated security detail. One of the duties of that detail, or any good security detail, is to investigate threats against the person they are sworn to protect. They are agents of the state, protecting the chief officer of the state. Nothing wrong with that.
    • gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4This president and his party have made him a king. He has made it very clear that he will decide what is or isn’t torture and who’s a terrorist and unworthy of basic standards of humane treatment. He unilaterally decided to wiretap whoever the hell he wants to. He decided to go to war, sent troops and asked congress for permission only as an after thought.

      He doesn’t require the other two branches of government to govern; they are superfluous when you are above the law. His supporters are fond of saying that to question his judgments is to give aid and comfort to the enemy. Sounds like some one is trying to make a case for treason to me.
    • vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"Would the SS have visited her if her knife collage picture had been David Hasselhoff or Paris Hilton? Her best friend? Her teacher? The tax assessor of her county?"

      Is that what they're paid to do?
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4gwolf, what does ANY of that have to do with the issue at hand? We're not even talking about that *****, whether or not anybody agrees with it.
    • rushmc, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2>>Is that what they're paid to do?

      You're missing the point. They could be paid to walk around randomly asking people what they think of the president and shooting people whose answer they don't like. That doesn't make it right.
  • Zarchon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Could someone explain to me the purpose of Digging a comment up or down? It seems to be used to distinguish people's political affiliation. You read a comment, if it agrees with your political beliefs you dig it up, if it doesn't you dig it down. Is this how it is supposed to work?
  • Zarchon, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4OK, I am a conservative. I want you to know that right up front. I am truly interested in hearing the reasoning that goes on inside the liberal mind. Explain to me why Foley is a pedophile because he wrote nasty letters to a 17 year old but in this very thread I have read that you shouldn't judge a person by their age and that a 14 year old can totally be into politics and intelligent and know what is going on.
    • gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Sometimes I think you “conservatives” approach politics like fan boys. This isn’t about an operating system or a game console, this is about what kind of a country you and your children will be living in, in say 20 years from now.

      What is it about this administration that you equate with the core values that conservatives say they believe in? They certainly aren’t fiscally conservative and they seem to want to spend far too much time running countries other than our own. Defending pedophiles and playing mindless follow the leader sounds more like radical Christianity and a cult mentality not conservative in the least.
    • devindotcom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I want you to know up front that your question is really, really stupid. Read it to yourself. If you can't figure out what's wrong with it, call someone and have them take your keyboard away.
    • RecklessProcess, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2gwolf... You mean Pedophiles like Senator Stubbs(D) who was caught having anal sex with a 17 year old male page? And served another 4 terms with the full support of his party? You are a complete hypocrite.
    • Zarchon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Gwolf, thanks for not answering my question.
      Devin, being a liberal I thought you would jump at the chance to help me but just like in reality all you can do is call names and insult.

      In my opinion this is where the hate comes from, the left. Read further in this thread and be proud of how the left expresses itself.

      BTW I am not religious but I do notice that religion is the new insult from the left.
  • PopcornDave, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5I'm curious where the parents are going to draw the line with authorities questioning their daughter. If she was pulled over at 16 for a moving violation, should she have her parents present when she's questioned? For that matter, if the school is going to question her in some manner, should her parents be present?

    If she was arrested, then yes her parents should be present before she's hauled off. But she was questioned, not arrested. And then she was questioned again at home WITH her parents present.

    Maybe I'm just getting too damn cynical, but it's almost like her parents wanted the possibility of face time. I truly hope that we haven't degenerated to that as a country.
    • Dewhead, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I thought that too.
    • RecklessProcess, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I bet you would like the State to pick her up and drive her to the clinic without parental consent if she wants an abortion at 14. But to not have her parents there when she is spoken to politely by presidential agents is beyond the pale.

      ROFLMAO!!!!!11!!!!!!1
    • PopcornDave, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@recklessprocess

      I had the same thought as well about the abortion issue. Where do parents and the state (meaning any governing body) draw the line as to what is acceptable when dealing with minors?

      And if you were thinking that I want the state to drive minors to the clinic for abortions, but gasp in horror about what happened to the kid in Sacramento, you're dead wrong.

      The kid in Sacramento got the treatment she deserved, as would anybody who did the same thing unless they were under say the age of 6. The Secret Service takes that kind of stuff very seriously.

      We do have the ability to redress our grievances about our government as guaranteed by the constitution, however we aren't protected from acting stupid and facing the consequences.
  • TheKillDoctor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4
    Assasination is the most extreme form of censorship.

    With that said how can you kill something that's already brain dead.

    (duck, run, hide)
  • tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5***** BUSH AND HIS ADMINISTRATION.
  • mutz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5I'm said it before on political items on digg....
    The president of the Unites States of Assholes (thats how the rest of the world tend to see the percentage of the americans who re-elected him for another 4 years of terror-monging and generally screwing up the image of america against the rest of the world... Your country is run by the military-industrial complex of war profiteers... and people like him should be shot in plain public for the things he has done... now come an take me... terrorist... away and put me in one of your secret prisons...
    • vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3okay, that made no sense at all.
    • AnonymousFan9, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2So you're saying we should kill the president because he killed others... very nice reasoning
  • compaqnigg, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Arrest that little girl!! She should be put to death! This is more important than Iraq /*End Sarcasm*
  • adinb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Hmm, what if we just threaten to put him in "stress positions"?

    I mean, according to him (and Gonzales) it's not torture, so I don't see any problem in him demonstrating his willingness to go through all the "stressors" with "questioners".
  • lebaige, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Can a fourteen year old pull a trigger? Yes. Can a fourteen year old perform a school massacre? Yes. Could a fourten year old kill the President? Yes. Not all speech is protected. It sounds like someone's parents should have been paying a bit more attention. Then again, this is Sacramento, they very well may have approved.
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