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Girl, 7, shot 6 times saving mom

detnews.com — A 7-year-old-girl is being hailed as an "angel from heaven" and a hero for jumping in front of an enraged gunman, who pumped six bullets into the child as she used her body as a shield to save her mother's life.

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  • mjworthey, on 12/06/2007, -1/+309Holy *****.

    And she survived!
    • prophetpimp, on 12/06/2007, -7/+10550 cent has nothing on this chick. She is hardcore. Damn Six shoots, thats brutal.

      I hope the shooter gets the chair for this.
      • EdgarVerona, on 12/06/2007, -2/+56Nah, but she'll go double platinum when she releases her first single.
      • crackedlogic, on 12/06/2007, -0/+12no death penalty in michigan
        • TheKrillr, on 12/06/2007, -3/+16Death penalties don't necessarily have to be done by the state, if you catch my drift.
      • thepain353, on 12/06/2007, -2/+26i understand hes evil but no one deserves ikea
        • mjworthey, on 12/06/2007, -4/+1I was trying to think of a "chair" reply. You did that better than I could have.
      • davidg11, on 12/06/2007, -2/+4In the ghetto....(smaller type: in the ghetto...)
      • lateralus, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1She needs a mix tape.
    • echolyean, on 12/06/2007, -7/+54Yeah, incredible. She must be the one that has regenerative abilities. Like that cheerleader.
      • masterdbugger, on 12/06/2007, -21/+2omg you're my hero for saying that.
        • TheKrillr, on 12/06/2007, -1/+15omg you're my loser for saying that.
    • EmperorAwesome, on 12/06/2007, -7/+16I was surprised to find her last name was not, in fact, Howlett.
      • alexforcefive, on 12/06/2007, -1/+22Soooo heroes references are ok, but x-men references aren't? Nerds are picky these days!
        • Elranzer, on 12/06/2007, -2/+4Heroes sucks. X-Men will still be around once Heroes is all but forgotten.
          • echolyean, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6Now that would make for a fantastic series finale of Heroes. The X-Men come and destroy them all. And it only takes 1 or 2 of them. The rest just sit at home watching the Super Bowl or something the entire episode.
    • bluemist, on 12/06/2007, -2/+18I was expecting the worst before I clicked on the article, but what a miracle this is.
    • ibilenjkij, on 12/06/2007, -8/+1Holy ***** yes, she did. And you can shove your second up your ass.
    • spargett, on 12/06/2007, -15/+2They must have forgotten to mention that a pellet gun was used.
    • stonedgeek, on 12/06/2007, -1/+73Yeah, surviving 6 bullets in one sitting is hardcore even for a grown man.
      Also, what kind of gunman can't kill a seven year old with six bullets? Enjoy being raped in prison, loser.
    • swankboy, on 12/06/2007, -1/+29And thankfully the f-ing guy wasn't tazed so we don't have to see that companion story on Digg.
      • MasterPain, on 12/06/2007, -0/+19They never get tazed when they should
        • iticu, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2He was just lucky he wasn't having a bath when they found him!
    • agimat, on 12/06/2007, -0/+13Thank you for saying she survived!

      The description was too depressing that I was about to skip reading the article.
    • anotherjeff, on 12/06/2007, -2/+7CLAIRE?
    • phre3k187, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6***** 50 cents, i'm gonna buy her album.
      • TheKrillr, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3what if her album is 50 cents? ;-)
    • Sampan, on 12/06/2007, -2/+4***** Chuck Norris! This girl is amazing! She's an invincible hero!
    • credence, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Cousin Avi: Six times?!
      Doug the Head: In one sitting.
  • Deputy_Doodah, on 12/06/2007, -141/+594What an article. The girl's last name and the mom's last name are (of course) different, and the ex-boyfriend is a four-time convicted felon.
    Black culture in the United States has become degenerate. Black people really seemed to be getting their ***** together and standing up for themselves culminating in the civil rights movement. Then they pissed all that achievement away.
    Since then, a black subculture has taken hold where this "family" scenario has become typical and with it, crime, government dependence, and sociopathic behavior. Other communities have trashy people too but they're rejected. But for blacks this is not only the norm, it's celebrated, and the blacks who reject that lifestyle are denigrated and attacked by their own families and communities.
    Find me a black mama anymore with a HUSBAND who hasn't been in jail, and 2-3 kids where the entire family has the same last name and you'll find a situation that has become pretty rare in this country.

    Got a little off-topic there..... but what a brave little girl. I hope she doesn't follow her mama's example and grows up to be something. She certainly has the guts to do that.
    • AdonisEffect, on 12/06/2007, -219/+44Totally off-topic and inappropriate.
      • lordthor, on 12/06/2007, -22/+102the parent poster is 100% correct. black people have been sabotaging themselves for years.
        • Frnnkdlxx, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1What has white America been doing for over 100 years? That's fine, spew all the ***** you want. Your expirement is coming to an end as well. LOOOOL. Burn in hell America. Burn in hell.... .In fact. I'll help
      • gfunk76, on 12/06/2007, -23/+7You're wrong.
      • Notasheeple, on 12/06/2007, -7/+19trruth hurts sometimes....
      • neilapril, on 12/06/2007, -5/+1that's right. Turn away from the truth. It's easier to just pretend that everything in the post is offensive and not politically correct.
        Face the Truth don't run from it.
      • Frnnkdlxx, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4Absolutely. I was disgusted. How dare these morons make any epdisodic didactic rambling about black culture when you live in a glass house. I could easily point out how white culture in America has denigrated to the point of collapse, but then again, I'm not as racist and barbaric and worse yet, condescending as these white diggers. This is exactly the reason I'm disgusted by most of you. There is no truth to what this man said, so it doesn't hurt, just angers those who have more knowledge of the situation and know that this guy spews ***** and the dumb white trash class of closet racists eat it up.

        This guy should be tried and summarily hung just for being ignorant.
    • qpn6ph9q, on 12/06/2007, -207/+53It's bigoted racial stereotyping like yours that fuels social injustice.
      • Ajajadude, on 12/06/2007, -18/+132Yeah, whitey forces black kids to buy into the hip hop lifestyle. 50 Cent is really Trent Lott in disguise trying to undermine the black "culture".

        Many African Americans believe the kinds of things Deputy just said, does that mean they're racist?
        • Zuljin, on 12/06/2007, -15/+4That's a pretty stupid argument you've got there. Black people can be racist too, dumb ass.
          • CedEx, on 12/06/2007, -7/+3Who's more racist, White people or black people?
            Black people! Because they hate ***** too!
          • gh0st3000, on 12/07/2007, -1/+0You can't be racist against yourself...
        • alex7575, on 12/06/2007, -1/+7Zuljin,

          Read his comment, and look up "reading comprehension" start with 2nd grade.
        • Frnnkdlxx, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Any blacks who believe that crap are as detestable as White segregationists in the NORTH! Who after the civil war continued oppressing the newly freed blacks. get a life you lowlife.
      • ronaldinho, on 12/06/2007, -8/+41I hate to say it, but most black people fueled their own perceived stereotypes, and worse, believe in it even more than we non-blacks do
      • gfunk76, on 12/06/2007, -4/+12No. Ignoring it only makes it worse. Ravcist would be to call one of the people a slur. The person who commented is only telling the truth about black culture.
    • wishninja, on 12/06/2007, -155/+33geesh last type of comment I expect to see. *****!
      • TruthIsKey, on 12/06/2007, -72/+3Girl shut the ***** up! This is atypical of the black community. Stop being a total tool!
      • wishninja, on 12/06/2007, -1/+5Woo hoo my largest negative ever. I am always negative on digg when it comes to racism. People here on digg are from yuppy white communities. See I am from a hillbilly area of the country with no black people for miles around. I think it give me special perspective on the subject or something. I realize that some blacks have problems but I also realize that many whites have exactly the same problems in my hilbilly community. Now what if someone like these diggers started calling me degenerate because I live here and happened to be the same color as the hilbillies around me? Thats IS racism that IS that the deputy was stating. He said that the people he labeled as degenerate, basically for having children out of wedlock and the father having been contrary to the law, are representative of the black culture. This is just false, totally false. It is not a "black" thing it is a POVERTY thing or an IDIOT thing but I refuse to believe just because you are black you are automaticaly outside your culture because you have a job, a family, and the same last name as your mother. god people would you turn off sean Hanity long enough to do something other then hurt and hate and spread this new "gray" racism?
    • actorboy, on 12/06/2007, -164/+39"Find me a black mama anymore with a HUSBAND who hasn't been in jail, and 2-3 kids where the entire family has the same last name and you'll find a situation that has become pretty rare in this country.:

      Yep, that's the straw that broke it there. An imagined stereotype completely devoid of fact. Dugg down, reported. blocked.
      • Knucklecallus, on 12/06/2007, -34/+14Dugg down, I understand. Reported, eh, I could see it maybe as racism, but still, not cool. Blocked is just completely unnecessary.
        • airstrike, on 12/06/2007, -2/+3i'm sorry people are digging you down, i totally agree with you even though i dugg the guy up.
      • SwissCamel, on 12/06/2007, -43/+8F-F-F-F-F-F-F-FAAAAAAAGGGOT!
      • gfunk76, on 12/06/2007, -13/+16Looks Like you've been Dugg down a lot more than the person your sissy ass considers "offensive" for telling it like it is.

        Go back to Malibu.
        • actorboy, on 12/06/2007, -15/+9Actually, I live in the South. In New Orleans to be exact. And I'm white and was raised in Alabama. So let's see: White Southern boy, born and raised, living in a heavily black city with its own poverty and crime problems -- and I'm more racially sensitive than you? Guess that blows another stereotype for you.
      • pandasonic, on 12/06/2007, -8/+21I live in the Bronx, NY. I'm white and have lived here since I was 15. In case you don't know, this is a heavily black part-of-town also with its own share of poverty and crime problems. I am "racially sensitive" as actorboy claims to be; however, I gotta agree with the parent commenter. Blacks in my community earn that "racism" they so much complain about. For instance, if you walk around calling yourself and others a n***er then why's it wrong for me to call you one when I'm walking home with 5 bags full of groceries and you decide to throw eggs at me simply because it's fun?
      • nova9, on 12/06/2007, -10/+3I dugg down actorboy for being a stupid ass blocker.
    • plethorex, on 12/06/2007, -19/+307Sadly, your comment is going to be viewed as completely racist and unfounded, even though many people in the black community agree with you. At my local gym, the nighttime supervisor is a black woman whom I speak to at length every night, and her words are largely echoed through you. She is someone who really did go through injustice, and really did fight for her rights, only to see it thrown away by the generation that is up and coming.
      • Tenlow, on 12/06/2007, -12/+76But without throwing it all away we wouldn't have words like "bling". I think it was worth it.
      • actorboy, on 12/06/2007, -25/+57His statement is racist because he classifies the majority of a race with it. I read his comments carefully, and yes, there is a segment of the population like that,however, it's not the majority as he would have you believe. If you believe it is then you either know no black people, only know black people from watching the news, or have a job that brings you into contact with only the worst elements of society rather than the society as a whole.
        • HUKI365, on 12/06/2007, -20/+67*****. He's not racist. It would be racist to disallow alcohol/weapons purchases for the black community based on enthnicity - yes. But its not racist to say: "Hey, look - I think we have a problem with this group of people."

          Races ARE different, not because of some ***** like "some are closer to monkeys" but because of CULTURE. And if as a community we can't say: "This culture is bad for people, lets do something positive." then that's political correctness gone mentally retarded.
          • GamerVer05, on 12/06/2007, -7/+33Then talk about cultures not races, Yes a culture may be dominated by a single race but to say that the problem with the culture is a problem of the race is racist. i.e. Black gangs kill each others therefore Blacks like to kill each other is not a reasonable conclusion.
          • slut, on 12/06/2007, -16/+7black culture sucks, hows that?
          • rootneg2, on 12/06/2007, -2/+46I think the problem is a lack of proper labels.

            It is clear that there is some sort of more-or-less unified subculture predominant among black urban lower/middle-class youth, which is what we seem to be refering to as "black culture". The problem is that while a majority of it's member bay be black, it is not really inherant to race per-se, and more to the socio-economic background which, due to historical factors, remains seperated to a large extent along racial lines. Using "black" as a label for the culture incorrectly implies that is is limited to, and solely composed of, a single race; a more correct label might be "urban" culture. I have known many white kids living on the "wrong side of the tracks" in the predominately black/hispanic neighborhoods in my hometown that are home to that sort of culture, and my no means is any race not represented in some proportion amongst the community.
          • gemlarin, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Poor is a result of lack of education, anti-social behaviors, self pity, and lack of motivation. You are correct that this is characteristic of all races in poverty, however, it is important to note that the black race in America is stricken with this "condition" by a much larger percentage than ANY other race in America. Who's fault is that?
          • blackshin0bi, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2by who's analysis? the one that you just made up 5 seconds ago in your head? stop making up statistics *****. actorboy summed it up perfectly, but you can't see that because you're full of *****... welcome to America
        • Tippis, on 12/06/2007, -14/+5<nit-pick>
          Actually, his comment isn't racist – it's ethnicist...
          </nit-pick>
        • GamerVer05, on 12/06/2007, -14/+8I think we have a problem with the jews. See it's racist.
        • Murdats, on 12/06/2007, -5/+38I think it is fairly safe to assume that he was talking about a significant subculture almost exlusive to black people. IE. 'black culture'
        • cbmatth, on 12/06/2007, -7/+34When 70%, I repeat 70%, of black children are being born out of wedlock than I think there is something that is very broken in the community.
        • actorboy, on 12/06/2007, -7/+11cbmath: citation for those numbers please. I've found nothing to back up your claim of 70%. Also, being born out of wedlock does not always equal the child being raised in a single-parent home, it only means the parents are not married.
        • Notasheeple, on 12/06/2007, -3/+470%! that's crazy! What I don't like is how the media plays up these fools called rap stars, to be some sort of hero. When in reality they are just spewing nonsense that ultimately plays a role on the degenerates from every race. They make a pity-party, woe-is-me, my lifes been hard type of song, then other degenerates listen and relate and presto, A whole segment of society acting on the words of some 2 bit chump with some bling and some gold teeth who is only there to make his money and not give a rats ass about the effect it has on others. It disgusts me to see our young people imitate these people! Britney, most rappers, they come in every race shape and size. You see it's not the race of the people it's what they do and say.
    • vamper, on 12/06/2007, -20/+10the truth is truthful
      • jftitan, on 12/06/2007, -5/+1hurt... I think "The truth, hurts doesn't it?"
        • CanadaMan87, on 12/06/2007, -3/+3no, it's "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
    • MaxPayne3476, on 12/06/2007, -19/+184Racist? No. Maybe a little harsh, but that is the reality of the fact. Go to any school district and find me the lowest ranked schools. New Jersey for example, lets talk the Abbott district. Pemberton, Willingboro, Woodrow Wilson, Neptune - these are all high populated black schools. Why are they underperforming? As Abbott districts it's certainly not money! It's the lack of motivation by the students.

      Name a PROMINENT black spokesman that is pushing a realistic agenda and not motivated by greed (sorry Al Sharpton)... you're left with Bill Cosby, who has said the SAME EXACT THING.

      He speaks the truth. In 1997 - 24.8% of 18-19 black women WERE PREGNANT. I'm sure taht statistic hasn't changed drastically in the past 10 years. http://www.siecus.org/pubs/fact/fact0010.html

      Who do these kids look up to? Lil Wayne, Yung Jeezy, 50 Cent and Soulja Boy.
      • Knucklecallus, on 12/06/2007, -8/+31Soulja boy up in dat ho....
        • evilpig, on 12/06/2007, -4/+30that songs so ***** gay.
        • arcticblue, on 12/06/2007, -3/+12Agreed. It is gay and unfortunately Japanese people love it (I live in Japan). I went furniture shopping the other day and they were playing it inside the store.
        • MasterPain, on 12/06/2007, -2/+9they weren't shooting each other inside the store though.
        • tortfeasor, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Bu they were throwing shuriken.
      • actorboy, on 12/06/2007, -27/+424.8%? When did 1 in 4 become the majority?
        • Kazbaeden, on 12/06/2007, -1/+42Something doesn't have to be the majority to be a big problem. 1 in 4 pregnant at 18 is a big ***** problem.
        • willyjlyles, on 12/06/2007, -1/+31I didn't see him say a majority anywhere, I think his point was more like this:

          HOLY CRAP! In 1997 about 1 in 4 black women ages 18 and 19 were PREGNANT! That means a huge amount of 10 year old black kids today were very likely born to unwed teenage moms. I'm not trying to preach about sexual immorality, but there's no way on earth that's an easy situation to grow up in.
        • actorboy, on 12/06/2007, -16/+2Agreed, but this line of argument is spawned from Deputy_Doodah's statement of: "Find me a black mama anymore with a HUSBAND who hasn't been in jail, and 2-3 kids where the entire family has the same last name and you'll find a situation that has become pretty rare in this country."

          "Pretty rare" means in the minority, meaning the good Deputy has classified the majority of black mothers as being married to convicted criminals if they are not single, and the majority of black siblings as being sired by different men. Something being a big problem and something being the majority are two different things.

          Like I said earlier, I read Deputy_Doodah's comments carefully. When it dove into sweeping generalizations, it became racist, and that's when I called him on it.
        • CrazyZ, on 12/06/2007, -3/+15My wife is black. She has four brothers. All of them are unmarried, have criminal records, and children from several women. Her father does too.... So in my limited experience, he's dead on....
        • pandasonic, on 12/06/2007, -5/+41 in 4 may not be the majority, but I bet you another one of those 3 left hanging couldn't get pregnant because she was in prison.
      • yurishoujo, on 12/06/2007, -31/+7Or perhaps the school districts are failing to take into account language and cultural barriers of the kids that go there. Think about how you're taught in school- it's from a white middle class perspective. If that perspective is irrelevant to you, you don't care. If there's a language barrier that is not addressed (Ebonics vs. "standard" English) you can't learn. Kids who are poorer do worse than those who come from a middle class background- white students included.

        The longer black children stay in school, the farther behind they fall. That doesn't make any sense that the kids who keep trying do worse. That is a clear indication something is wrong in the school system. It's not a lack of funding per se, but a lack of appropriate teaching methods.
        • OverlordXenu, on 12/06/2007, -3/+31What in the hell are you talking about? Ebonics isn't correct English. White middle-class prospective? What? Cultural barriers?

          I'm sorry, but that is 100% *****. I went to school with a nice amount of black kids, the majority of them kids of black people who worked their way out of the ghetto and into fairly upper-class status (ie. million dollar net worths...The richest kid in my high school was half black, half Puerto Rican). Their kids were as normal as anyone else.
        • yurishoujo, on 12/06/2007, -18/+13There's no such thing as a correct English. All spoken English dialects have variation. Some are selected as "wrong" because of the groups that speak them. Both British English and American English are correct, East coast English and Midwest English are correct, but holy *****, Black English is wrong. Why? It follows a specific consistent set of grammatical patterns and linguistic rules just as all the other dialects do. It's a variation that's been around since slave times.

          School is taught from a white middle class perspective. Books you read when you're a kid- a mom, a dad, and their kids, a house with a backyard. Johnny rides his bicycle to school. What if you're from a poor economic station where those things don't exist?

          Or think of tests that don't take all cultural traits into account. Best example I can think of is one we went over in a linguistic class. A nursing student is asked the question what kind of picnic food needs to be monitored for food poisoning. The correct answer, is potato salad because it contains mayonnaise. However, if you're from a culture that doesn't use mayo in potato salad (many make it with vinegar) you won't know how to correctly answer that, not because you don't know that bacteria breeds like rabbits in warm mayo, but because your cultural perspective didn't take that into account.

          You went to a middle class/upper class school then. The ones in your district worked their way up or they wouldn't be there, so that isn't a fair perspective. But many are not in a position to do so, and it's clear most don't have the resources since many are failing so bad. Trials have been run in school districts that accept Ebonics as a valid dialect, and have used it to teach those kids "standard english." The kids in these programs did better, enjoyed school more, and got farther. But these programs are still not in use because of racist thought patterns that ignore the need to address white privilege.
        • Mothrog, on 12/06/2007, -4/+30So... Should the teachers in Southern schools all learn Hick so they can communicate with their students? ***** off.
        • yurishoujo, on 12/06/2007, -3/+7If you wanted to tell a kid in the south that the proper way to say "we're fixin' to leave soon" is "we're going to leave soon," it would make sense to have someone who understood what "fixin''" meant in that dialect and how to correct it, now wouldn't it?
          • Mothrog, on 12/06/2007, -4/+10What child is possibly so completely and utterly ***** retarded that they can't express themselves in another way? Anyone that isn't a half wit should be able to pick up proper English when they start school at the age of 5. If they can't, they probably weren't worth educating in the first place.
          • yurishoujo, on 12/06/2007, -5/+7Most of your crticial language acquisition occurs before you ever reach school. The basis for what your dialect for life is going to be is impacted mostly by your family, or whoever else you're mostly around at a young age. If those people speak with a dialect, that's what your brain will naturally pick up.
            It's not an intelligence deficiency. If everyone around you has said "fixin'" or has pronounced their r's with a non-rhotic speech pattern, why on earth would you pronounce it differently? These people aren't stupid, they're speaking differently. It conveys meaning, it follows a grammar rule, how is it inherently less intelligent?

            All that aside, it's near impossible to change a dialect due to the permanency of a person's first language/dialect. It's like saying someone who's spoken with a midwest accent is stupid if they are unable to perfectly mimic a southern drawl or a northeast speech pattern. Changing dialects is incredibly difficult.
            It's NOT about intelligence or effort, it's about how language is acquired.
          • Mothrog, on 12/06/2007, -1/+8Inability to change dialect isn't a reflection of lack of intelligence. Inability to communicate with someone that uses a slightly different dialect of the same language is indicative of someone that's stupid. if you can't understand someone from the Midwest just because they pronounce words a little bit differently, I've got news for you: You're an idiot.
          • yurishoujo, on 12/06/2007, -6/+2Duh. So why the ***** fuss over Ebonics reflecting stupidity if it's just a different dialect of English?
          • Mothrog, on 12/06/2007, -3/+6Probably because the whole premise of your argument lies on teaching being ineffective because they don't know perfect Ebonics, if there is such a thing. if kids can't manage to grasp what the teacher's saying in a slightly different dialect, to the point where it interferes with their education, they're stupid and not worth educating.
          • yurishoujo, on 12/06/2007, -6/+5There is such a thing as perfect Ebonics, as I said, there are complex consistent grammatical rules to it.
            By your logic, anyone who doesn't just automatically pick up the meaning of words like hotdish, pop, mommucking, kitchen (not referring to the room,) crappies, or mulie is a moron. These are all words from dialects of English that probably don't differ much from what you speak. Many people use all of the above as much as you may use and understand words like cat or dog. But if you've never had a reason to ever use these words, why should you know them?
          • Mothrog, on 12/06/2007, -2/+4I don't know them offhand, but whose dialect is so god awful that someone speaking that dialect couldn't explain what they meant?
          • brufleth, on 12/06/2007, -0/+5Here let me destroy your entire argument. I went to school with hundreds if not thousands of people who knew English only as a second language. Their exposure to ANY standard/western/US/etc English during the "critical early period" was limited at best. They all did just fine. They did fine in all subjects and the language barrier, while sometimes a challenge, did not prevent them from accomplishing their goals (hell, a good chunk of the people I work with still have limited English skills and are more educated than I am).

            The idea that Ebonics should be used in US schools is asinine. Should we also use all Pidgins which have formed in cultures all over the world? If native Spanish, German, Italian, Portuguese, French, Chinese, Japanese, etc speakers can enter an educational environment and A) learn a dialect of English that is acceptable in an academic environment, and B) do well, there is NO reason that someone who claims they only know Ebonics can't do the same.

            Keep in mind that pretty much all forms of media in the US besides some rap is in a more typical dialect. So kids are almost CERTAINLY going to be heavily exposed to the dominate dialect of English outside of school.
          • Sharkky, on 12/06/2007, -1/+4Not being able to succeed at school due to lack of ebonic speaking teachers is a another excuse for being lazy. Blaming the educational system for black kids falling farther back from school is placing blame instead of accepting the fact that it shouldn't be someone else making it easier on them. The ***** never changes. Nothing about this whole topic is every proactive because everyone is placing blame on everyone else instead of blaming themselves. Everytime someone says the black community (or whatever subculture you wanna call the "troubled black") is ***** up and we should make some changes to it, it automatically becomes a race issue instead of accepting the fact maybe there is a problem. Everyone has an equal opportunity to do well in school. If you can't learn how to speak english, learn. Don't expect someone to hand you a diploma written in ebonics. Life is hard, learn and deal with it. "If there's a language barrier that is not addressed (Ebonics vs. "standard" English) you can't learn. Kids who are poorer do worse than those who come from a middle class background- white students included." WTF, really? How many people come from Korea, China, Japan, Middle East, Europe to America or any other county foreign to them and strive to excel in school? How much of a lazy ***** do you have to be to live 2 god damn blocks from a school and making an excuse of "I can't learn good cuz the teaches don't speak ebonics"......... ***** this. It's their own fault for being lazy, it's American's fault for giving free handouts, and it's our fault for always bitching about political correctness and "being a racist" instead of being proactive. Go to school, get a job, show some respect to society. I'm sure poor people can figure that out.
        • actorboy, on 12/06/2007, -1/+6@ yurishoujo

          The use of "fixing" is proper English.

          Define: FIx
          S: (v) fix, prepare, set up, ready, gear up, set (make ready or suitable or equip in advance for a particular purpose or for some use, event, etc) "Get the children ready for school!"; "prepare for war"; "I was fixing to leave town after I paid the hotel bill"

          Source: http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=fix (last definition)

        • airjun, on 12/06/2007, -0/+12Public schools are suppose to prepare to function in society ie use in your case 'accepted' English not reinforce improper English.
        • Notasheeple, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1what language barrier? ebonics oh yes I forgot
        • Daiken, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2It's funny cause I see people from China and India who have trouble speaking English do better than most students. The black problem is not language or cultural barrier. It's the mindset many of them have.
      • JOJOFACE, on 12/06/2007, -11/+3Haha, I'm sorry but you think the majority of the 'black culture' looks up to Lil Wayne, Yung Jeezy, 50 Cent and Soulja Boy?
      • guinnessstout, on 12/06/2007, -4/+1Super man dat hoe.
        • tyzent, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1my mind tried to devolve when i found out what that phrase actually meant
      • kriminalintent, on 12/06/2007, -5/+4A father is god in the eyes of a child, if are fathers bale what does that tell you about god?
      • GosuHaxer, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3I live about 15 mins from Willingboro and this guy sadly speaks the truth. The hilarious thing is that it's not a bad area at all. Most families have very decent homes and yet 90% of them act/think like they are living in Camden and think they actually are hardcore. It's kind of sad but I honestly don't see it changing anytime soon.
    • kutateli, on 12/06/2007, -21/+79So much truth in your words. The people who are calling you racist are idiots. There is nothing in your comment that shows hate towards the blacks.. at WORSE all they can say is that you were generalizing or stereotyping - only if what you said wasn't true.
      • GamerVer05, on 12/06/2007, -17/+10Stereotypes are racism, even if it is positive, generalizations hurt individuals.
        • TheTaoOfBill, on 12/06/2007, -7/+18If you call every negative thing said about a race racist there is no room for criticism and no room for change. There is plenty that needs to be criticized in the black community. It's not racist. It's a want for everyone to better themselves. I don't think the original poster showed any hatred toward black people. He told it how it was. Black people need to recognize the filth that is taking over their culture.

          And it's such a vibrant culture. The one thing black people can say they do better than anyone else is their culture and they are letting it get taken over by thugs, pimps and losers. It's a crying shame and they need to recognize it and better themselves. The fight against racism would go much smoother if they spent their energies correcting their culture and encouraging better role models.
          • TheTaoOfBill, on 12/06/2007, -5/+1Did I say race was a cause of their behavior? Of course not! But when a race gets taken over by thugs like this and when their role models are violent thugs and gangsters it causes people to believe that. I'm trying to get black people to stand up for themselves again and start discouraging the kind of behavior that is currently encouraged in their culture. Only then can they think to continue the fight against racism.
        • GamerVer05, on 12/06/2007, -1/+9It's racist to say that an individual event has a correlation to the entire race, There is never a problem with a race, there's a problem among subcultures that promote violence, and amongst inner city youth and such, but to say for instance that a black kid shooting another kid is because he's more inclined to do so because he's black.
          • GamerVer05, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4is racist, I forgot those last two words,
      • GamerVer05, on 12/06/2007, -3/+9Let me explain, it is a stereotype that Asian people are good at math, this puts undue pressure on individuals to perform to this expectation why it is a positive influence for some people, for those that cant live up to those expectations they are ridiculed.
      • dinostabOMG, on 12/06/2007, -9/+5Generalizing and stereotyping - racism.
        • Sharkky, on 12/06/2007, -3/+6*****. racism
          (n) : the belief that members of one race are superior to members of other races; the belief that members of one ethnic group are superior to members of another ethnic group
          synonyms: bias, prejudice, preconception

          stereotype : to make a stereotype of someone or something, or characterize someone by a stereotype; to print from a stereotype
          synonyms: representation

          Stereotype: White people are racist =/= Racism: White people are far more superior as humans then Black people.
    • rustintable, on 12/06/2007, -44/+41I guess I am forced to log in and comment here since so many people seem to be unable to parse even the simplest of situations.

      Even if most black people were as described here that would still make this comment racist. You are making assumptions about people based on the color of their skin (Not necessarily even race (Whatever race is)). But I see no statistics here to even back anything up.

      You just make it harder for people to change this sort of behavior by promoting the idea that it is the norm. Even your own behavior is clearly the result of you emulating people around you without really questioning it. And that is the real root of the problems you describe.

      Secondly have you not noticed that this lifestyle that you describe is common among white colored people these days as well? I believe they are pejoratively referred to as white trash by the sort of people who think they sound smart when they use such language.

      Here's a thought. Stop making the world so ugly.
      • ActiveMatx, on 12/06/2007, -2/+10Rustintable said what I wanted to say. He wasn't being racists, but he is sterotyping heavily. Now days more than 50% of ALL marraiges end up in divorce, so show me any american who hasn't been divorced is also becoming a rarity. I cant believe your comment recieved so much positive diggs, not that it was bad ,but it wasnt entirely good either.

        Shows how the herd effect works on digg.
      • JOJOFACE, on 12/06/2007, -0/+7Couldn't agree more, rustintable.
      • Ogedei, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6ding ding ding we have a winner.
        It's not about race, it's about how people live. Just turn on Mr. Springer's show and you can see it's not all black people who live in this type of situation.
        Black or white, there are plenty of women who are not married, have kids and date ex-cons.
        Have you all missed the multitude of ant-violence towards women campaigns?
    • skyfire1, on 12/06/2007, -20/+5My brother married a black girl and they have a kid. I don't know if it counts because he's white.
    • Trav3133, on 12/06/2007, -17/+2I don't think she has much guts left for anything.
    • Nov4cane, on 12/06/2007, -15/+51I am one of three white people at my work, and every single black person at my work has families that aren't anything like what you've described. One family there has 8 kids and they ALL have the same last name. Their are multiple families that work there, all with the same last names and their parents aren't in jail.

      The guy who complimented above me was correct in stating how you have a prejudice set in place about people with black skin because you're generalizing. You may have gotten your point across in a more thought out way, but it's still stereotyping.
      • bwa236, on 12/06/2007, -8/+10One single example of how it's not like that does not overcome the prevalence of how it is like that.
      • Navicerts, on 12/06/2007, -3/+10That is more than a "single example", it's a group of different families.
      • ronaldinho, on 12/06/2007, -6/+2Well, the stereptype is there only because it is also (at least partly) true. They don't just happen. I'm with you on the point that not all blacks are that way, but you know some percentage of it are. I got some black friends who are educated and not shooting their way to their bling, but the general perception and stereotype is just......there.
    • unitethenations, on 12/06/2007, -9/+86"Find me a black mama anymore with a HUSBAND who hasn't been in jail, and 2-3 kids where the entire family has the same last name and you'll find a situation that has become pretty rare in this country."
      I think the problem is that people like you assume that outward appearance == culture. Sure, some black people are the way you described, but so are some white and [insert other group here] people too. What they all have in common is poverty and lack of education, which go hand in hand.

      I'm black, so let's take the example of my mother:
      Grew up in Africa. No privileges there. Is now an MD, and married. We (her children) are all pursuing MDs/JDs, and I should not even need to mention that we have one father (singular! /sarcasm).

      However, I'm certain that in your corner of the world black people are drinking a koolaid that endears them to this shocking behaviour, and you will not find such patterns amongst any other peoples. /sarcasm
      • llamagorama, on 12/06/2007, -6/+34In the case of your mother though, she didn't grow up in America and is thus spared. It's American Blacks that seem to keep up this stereotype. I'm sure there's enough high-enough standing American Blacks with good upbringing but they're not the ones have 3-5 kids before thirty to various men. By numbers the 'ghetto', uneducated ebonics-speaking blacks have them beat.
        And yes, there are other cultures and colours of people who have the same problem but the blacks are the ones that really seem to celebrate it and encourage it and to leave that culture behind is seen as betrayal. They seem to covet their poverty and lack of education as what defines them and demands that the world sees them that way, and then lash out when we do. Even the ones who AREN'T poor or unducated, ones who have expensive clothes and cell phones and live in good neighbourhoods and go to good schools try to keep this culture to themselves. It's not all upbringing.
        I have met, known and seen enough blacks of various upbrining and let me tell you - the skin colour of the polite, succesful, well-speaking educated ones seems secondary. The loud, obnoxious, barely intelligible and intelligent ones only seemed to make thier skin colour more obvious.
        • unitethenations, on 12/06/2007, -6/+5"the skin colour of the polite, succesful, well-speaking educated ones seems secondary. The loud, obnoxious, barely intelligible and intelligent ones only seemed to make thier skin colour more obvious."
          That's absolute BS.

          How does that even work? You're saying that the skin colour of normal contributors to society is irrelevant, but if they are obnoxious that all people who look like them are too?
          I honestly am glad that I have not met any people as closed minded as you.
      • aristotle0dude, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1That wonderful but guess what? Immigrants regardless of race tend to be a lot more hardworking and driven than your average person born in north america regardless of race. The problem with the black people born here is not a matter of race but rather the thug culture that has developed of late. The problem is the sub-culture of the inner cities and the only way I see out of this situation is for people to start taking responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming it all on the "white man".

        I speak as an immigrant who did face some prejudice from the established "WASP" community but I did not let that stop me from succeeding. In fact, I would say that it made me try even harder.
    • sjm20k, on 12/06/2007, -13/+47wow what the ***** - that ***** might be normal in the poorest community but you cant ***** say to my face that this is the "norm" in black society. the fact that you got dugg up so incredibly hard makes me really concerned about hanging around here.
      • legendxx, on 12/06/2007, -8/+6watch your e-back
      • barnett25, on 12/06/2007, -5/+14I for one dug him up not because of his stereotyping (which I did recognize), but the gist of his statement.
        Obviously all black people are not a part of that culture, nor does it only consist of black people. I think there are more white people in my area who fit that description than there are black people who do. But black people had to fight for the right to be an equal part of our society, and it's a shame that so many people do not respect what their parents and grandparents went through to get them the chance that many are throwing away.
      • aristotle0dude, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1Which hood do you live in? Beverly Hills? Bel Air? Mailbu? Represent holmes.

        You might want to get out of your whitebread rich suburbs for a bit and experience a bit of the "real world".
    • schmitey, on 12/06/2007, -8/+46First off I don't think Deputy's comment is racist. Could have been better worded to be less confrontational and offensive, but it is fundamentally true.

      Second, the real issue is the lack of real FATHER FIGURES. Look at our prison system if you don't believe me, very very few of those people had good male role models. My dad would have whooped up on me if I ever did drugs or came home with cops. More to the point...I knew what my consequences would be and lived as to meet and exceed his expectations because I knew he'd be around if I didn't!!! Furthermore, if you don't want kids then ***** be responsible (abstinence or birth control, and that applies to both sexes) and quit leaching my taxes.

      My third point comes from my own observations and time spent in a poor area of Louisiana with an almost exclusively black community. Not all, but many blacks IN THAT AREA, for whatever reason are CONTENT with their present situation. They complain about it all day long, BUT TAKE NO ACTION TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION for themselves and most notably future generations. You STILL find families who don't have any college or even highschool grads...part of this comes from my second point of male role models. It takes one person in one generation to go to school, maintain a job, have a family, and STAY WITH THAT FAMILY to break the cycle for all future generations.

      These are just observations that apply to EVERYONE. If you want to call me racist so be it, but I never pointed fingers.
      • pseudononymist, on 12/06/2007, -8/+2fathers in prison? So it is the white man's fault. Many of those fathers wouldn't be in prison if we didn't have this goddamn-ass stupid war on drugs.
        • schmitey, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1you make no sense. Furthermore those drug users are poor examples for their kids who more than likely will go down the same path and find themselves in prison. These offenders aren't victims, they made their own decisions that wound up PUTTING THEIR OWN ASS IN PRISON. Just cuz you don't get caught doesn't make you a good role model...
          • pseudononymist, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1so it's better that a pot head father is in prison where he doesn't have a chance to be a good role model?
      • handtek2k, on 12/12/2007, -0/+0Deputy's comments are racist. He labeled all of black culture and people as "degenerate". Thats not dealing with people on the content of their character by any means is it? Furthermore, I could point to any number of things such as the porn industry dominated by white people, or the fact that whites are the most represented in the ranks of notorious serial killers to generalize that all white people are "degenerate". It was a convenient opportunity to slam black people and he took it, not because he's concerned about black people, but simply because he's hostile to them. As a black person, the most disheartening thing is how fast lots of other non black people jump on the bandwagon with comments like that.
    • bejove, on 12/06/2007, -16/+13These types of comments are not constructive at all. Neither were they very relevant to the article. Criticism, yes. Constructive, no. It really pains me that the Digg community appreciates these comments.
      • sieteRevueltas, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2agreed. For the life of me I cant understand why he's getting dugg up so much. Its unadulterated stereotyping and racism. I thought digg was better than this.
    • TonyHoTT, on 12/06/2007, -27/+34Buried for using this tragic story as a platform for voicing your racist agenda.

      Everything that happened in this story is more of a product of status and class rather than skin color and you're a fool not to see that! You make so many generalizations and the fact that you got so many diggs only shows that latent racism is so prolific in the US still that people would only get behind you mostly anonymous on the internet.

      Mom has a different last name than her daughter... BAH I HAVE A DIFFERENT LAST NAME THAN MY MOM! The divorce rate is so ***** high these days in the U.S. I can't even believe you're using that as evidence of the degeneration of black people in the states!?!?

      Not only that but you're severely guilty of grouping every black person together in one community while diversifying your own saying that your presumably white community rejects trashy people. Us whites reject trashy people? You ever watch T.V.? Britney Spears, Jerry Springer, etc. You think it's black people buying all this soulja boy *****? Think again. Goto any highschool and it's white kids bumpin that *****.

      I strongly suggest you look into the psychology behind racism and prejudice attitudes because ***** if you got this many diggs for that racist *****... Plus it was extremely disrespectful to those involved in the story who went through this terrible ordeal.
      • JohnFlux, on 12/06/2007, -5/+2> Everything that happened in this story is more of a product of status and class rather than skin color and you're a fool not to see that!

        You're a fool for forgetting culture. Culture can have a stronger influence than class and status. The gangster culture is mostly (though not exclusively) folllowed by young blacks. So yes, skin color influences which culture they join, and hence influences behaviour.
        • multitude, on 12/06/2007, -0/+3You seem to have a narrow view of culture, since you imply that class and status can't be counted as products of culture. If you think more deeply about race, you will recognize that culture contains certain categories such as race, and that skin color is one (but not the only factor) that allows people to put people into racialized categories.
    • SwissCamel, on 12/06/2007, -10/+7On a serious note now fellas, why is it that all of the worlds previous *****, countries in South East Asia etc are experiencing something of an economic renaissance whereas Africa on the whole is becoming realtively poorer each year. (Could it have anything to do with the collapse of South Africa, the one country there that worked in the last 30 years).
      • TonyHoTT, on 12/06/2007, -0/+7corruption
        • knde, on 12/06/2007, -0/+8TonyHoTT you are absolutely correct!

          I have a cousin who currently attends Howard University in DC. The other day she rang to rant & rave. Apparently there had been some forum on Africa and its woes.

          By large, those present were American blacks who had had no experiences with Africa, except for what they’ve seen in the media. These nincompoops, proceeded to blame the state of African affairs on Westernization and rejection of our (I’m part Sierra Leonean) roots……blah blah.

          My cousin was so irritated and frustrated that she left. She wanted to yell at them that, “It is corruption, deceit and greed that has ruined us. Our leaders are incompetent, barely educated morons who have no shame, decency or common sense. The people are not equipped with any means to fight the powers that be. Our leaders have failed us since our varied Independence Days, and we have failed ourselves by being complicit in the filth of it all. So don’t sit here and tell me my country has gone to *****, because of something as banal as Westernization.”

          It always amuses me when non-Africans offer suggestions as to why so many African countries are failing. It seems they always want to make excuses for us. Go ask an African! They’ll tell you like it is. As a continent we are C-O-R-R-U-P-T! It’s a cancer that has spread from the brain (our so called leaders) to the toes (the impoverished masses). We aren’t racially inferior, we aren’t savages, we are a people with no means to correct the damages done to us by OUR own people.
        • pseudononymist, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1knde I must defer to you of course, but come on, if corporations and governments from other nations weren't offering assramming deals to African nations, wouldn't those countries be somewhat better off than they are? Vietnam is far better now because America got its big fat dog nose out of their rice hat covered faces.
          • knde, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4I wouldn’t disagree that some foreign corporations help fuel the cycle of corruption and upheaval, but I’m still heavily convinced that the bulk of the problems in Africa are caused by we Africans.

            For example, this Christmas I’m headed to Lagos, Nigeria for a wedding. It is a FACT that at some point during my two week stay, policemen will stop the vehicle I’m in (for no good reason) and either directly or indirectly demand some form of payment. It is also a FACT that I will reach into my purse and throw them a couple hundred naira. Why? Well, because I can afford it, because I don’t care for the hassle, and because it’s the Nigerian way.

            Now the above is a somewhat petty example of bribery/corruption, but multiply that by a factor of 10 in the highest levels of government and you have a screwed up country! There are so many examples of absurd problems in a country like Nigeria, that envisioning a solution seems damn near impossible.
        • codmate, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2That and lack of education.
      • dinostabOMG, on 12/06/2007, -4/+2For many complicated reasons. Also, your assertion isn't accurate across the board, neither about Africa or Asia. Some people are arguing that what he said isn't racist (I disagree) but you are way over the line. Reported.
      • marastara, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1the economic crisis in Africa is due to the leaders being seduced by money from big corporations. the few big exports have blood drenched over them and that doesn't have anything to do with the "fall" of south africa...
        P.S South Africa supported Nazi Germany...so what does that say about the history of that country???? I think like any developing country they need to keep growing and becoming better, instead of slipping back to the comforts of the past
      • Daiken, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2There are a number of reasons it's not doing as well. Unfortunately many of them can't be controlled by the average African.
    • orca94, on 12/06/2007, -15/+24What he is saying is racist. He's trying to completely generalize all black people and all of black culture into a negative stereotype.
      "But for blacks this is not only the norm, it's celebrated, and the blacks who reject that lifestyle are denigrated and attacked by their own families and communities."
      How is that not racist?
      I can see what he's trying to get at, but he's going about it in a completely misguided manner.
      • multitude, on 12/06/2007, -3/+3I absolutely agree, orca94. It is scary to me that so many people can jump on the bandwagon of the original poster by digging his comment. Clearly, it makes generalizations that promote racism.
      • craigatkinson, on 12/06/2007, -1/+3So we can't judge cultures anymore? We can't generalize anymore? Are you saying that generalization = racism? Just because they are black doesn't mean we can't step back and judge their culture. Of course we are going to generalize. Of course not all blacks are going to fit into the generalization. That doesn't mean our generalization won't be true for the majority of the culture. That's what generalization means. Generalization does not equal racism.
    • knde, on 12/06/2007, -12/+33And that's why I'm on Reddit more and more these days.

      When this story hit the front page on Reddit yesterday, no comment strayed to the ills of the black American community. Everyone concentrated on the article and that was it. It was ALL about the article, which is only partially to do with race, quite frankly.

      In less than 0.21 seconds I was able to find all these child related murders in 2007 by white Americans....but you don't see the white population being stereotyped and blamed for ONE man's actions.

      Rape and murder of his 9-year-old stepdaughter - http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Nov12/0,4670,Miss ...
      Tortured and killed her 10-year-old stepdaughter - http://www.deseretmorningnews.com/article/1,5143,6 ...
      Killed his wife and her daughter - http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/articl ...
      Dad killed stepdaughter - http://nwitimes.com/articles/2007/06/13/news/top_n ...

      I have criticized a certain portion of black America on Digg myself, and I certainly don't think it's all gravy. But I certainly don't judge the ENTIRE black community by the actions of a few.

      Kid yourself all you want, but Digg sure does have quite a prejudiced amount of members.
      • knde, on 12/06/2007, -2/+7And just another reason to dislike Digg...can never post a bloody link without it being cut off!

        1) http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Nov12/0,4670,Miss ...
        2) http://www.deseretmorningnews.com/article/1,5143,6 ...
        3) http://nwitimes.com/articles/2007/06/13/news/top_n ...
        4) http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/articl ...
      • rumagin, on 12/06/2007, -0/+10Totally agree with knde, there was no need for the type of subtle prejudice many of these comments contain. And then to see those comments being dugg up really sucks. never used reddit, but about to check it out now.
      • JohnFlux, on 12/06/2007, -0/+9The one sane post here.

        Every other post seems to be taking one extreme position or another.
        Either all black are thugs, or all black people are innocent and it's just because they are poor etc.
        I would like to see some geniune critique of the thug gangster culture. However it is impossible to make such a comment without the racists coming out in force.
      • Aitese, on 12/06/2007, -0/+8Wow...dugg down for being a sane voice amongst a throng of ignorance and blinkered prejudice...what's that Reddit link again?
      • civikminded, on 12/06/2007, -2/+3"But I certainly don't judge the ENTIRE black community by the actions of a few. Kid yourself all you want, but Digg sure does have quite a prejudiced amount of members."

        Am I the only one picking up the irony in this statement?
      • Notasheeple, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2So you guys are saying that you would never talk about tough subjects that are mostly true?
      • Sell, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1You guys are missing the point. The original commentor never made claims that these ills are exclusive to the black community, actually he states just the opposite. The issue is that life styles that lead to this type of situation are celebrated in the black community whereas in other communities (for the most part) those that live this way are ostrasiced (sp?). Also, there is nothing wrong with the discussion coming around, all-be-it immediately, to the debate of black culture and the related issues. This is one of the more healthy boards I have seen on Digg in a long time.
    • codmate, on 12/06/2007, -2/+5I can't disagree with what you're saying as I don't have any evidence to the contrary.
      However - without some evidence for your argument it does rather look like a gross negative generalisation about race, otherwise called 'racism'.
    • Zap2, on 12/06/2007, -7/+19Of my good friends, 3 are black.

      Of them, 2 have a mom and dad.....and the other one has only a mom, but his father died of a heartattak.....cut the racist *****.....their are white, blacks, hispanics, etc that kill each other...and you're not making large generalizations about them.
    • Aitese, on 12/06/2007, -6/+11Wow...first it's quite troubling the amount of latent prejudice a large section of digg users harbor. Lets forget for a second that the majority of black people in America are productive well adjusted law abiding members of society. Let's forget that crime does not equal culture...this here is a crime, not a traditional black folk dance involving the ceremonial 9mm and bullets. Lets forget that pretty much any black person you speak to will be as disgusted about this story as any normal heart owning human being regardless of race, age or gender of the victim. Lets forget the numerous TV chat shows where equal shares of poor ill educated black white or Hispanic people come to parade their theater of promiscuity, misogyny and child neglect.

      It seems a racist agenda can be twisted and turned to suit any occasion...the majority of blacks according to your comment are out of work philandering criminals...but I'm sure I will find a Digg story involving employment where the same racist mindset will prompt the same commentators to talk about the vast number of blacks taking white jobs without the adequate qualifications...funny I thought they were all unemployed criminals? Make your minds up. are they ALL street dwelling thugs or are they all affirmative action empowered students taking your college place away from you? It can't be both...you can't have several differing and opposing majorities. Either way in your mind set black folk are pissing you off. Just say that...and then identify what it is you really don't like about them and move on.
    • Deecon, on 12/06/2007, -6/+5Ah, where would we be without the Armchair Sociologist, his disregard for any evidence contrary to his views and his heavy-handed statements without any reasoning or concrete evidence?

      Have fun throwing stones.
      • epiccollision, on 12/06/2007, -2/+1do you have any supporting evidence to the contrary
      • Midvicious, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Turn off the Tele, clear your misperceptions and talk to people, you'll have all the evidence you need.
    • patch6, on 12/06/2007, -2/+9Countless studies attest to how environmental factors have a far more dramatic effect on behavior than the vague classification of race.

      Also, "black" encompasses far too many bloodlines to even be a reliable gauge on genetic predisposition. One example being the prevalence of sickle-cell anemia amongst "black" people in the US, which is much lower than that of Africa's population, with sickle cell now affecting about %0.3 of the "black" US population, versus %0.25 of the overall US population, since being a sickle-cell trait carrier renders immunity to malaria, but that disease is rare in the US, and due to the negligible evolutionary benefit it has, it is being gradually bred out on its own, as evidenced by the much higher prevalence it has in various parts of Africa (its prevalence differs substantially by region over there as well).

      Lastly, your assumption that all "black" people participate in an all-inclusive "black culture" is a lazy generalization. The negative traits you mention are not exclusive to any one race, they are merely behavioral patterns that have a strong tendency of being mimicked by younger generations, if they are only exposed to same.
    • spoodigity, on 12/06/2007, -4/+5I think the root of the problem with black culture lies in both the lack of strong role models for kids, ( its mostly rappers and professional athletes that give unrealistic goals of making it big) and our government providing ***** education in black populated areas. (just compare the public school funding between white suberbia and inner city black communities). It just becomes a cycle of ignorance.

      I like the show The Boondocks, it goes out of the way to point out a lot of the problems with black culture.
      • Midvicious, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1It's only a matter of time when some ***** starts bringing up "role models"...

        There are far deeper economic and moralistic problems than not having more "role models".
    • sindex, on 12/06/2007, -1/+7To blame the ills of society on the celebration of "crime, government dependence, and sociopathic behavior" in black culture is no better than someone like Jack Thompson blaming video games for a child's violent behavior, and we *ALL* know that's a load of *****. Sorry chum, but you can't have it both ways. Either individuals are responsible for themselves, or we're just a society of mindless robots waiting for the media to tell us what to think next. 50 Cent is not the norm any more than Jerry Springer; it just sells, and you've bought it.
    • CaptainRotundo, on 12/06/2007, -1/+11I am not black. I have two children, neither share a last name with their mother. We are not married, but are in a committed long term relationship (almost twelve years at this point). You sir are jumping to conclusions and using the available data to fit your preconcieved notions of the situation.
    • 68024, on 12/06/2007, -4/+15How the hell does a comment like that get 200+ diggs and going?
      • relltherell, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6it shows how divided the country still is.
        • 68024, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4Makes me feel like it's 1807 instead of 2007...
    • seandaly, on 12/06/2007, -10/+5Totally racist! You my friend, don't like black people!
      I hope you DIAF...
    • glasnostic, on 12/06/2007, -1/+8where i come from "san antonio" there aren't many black people, so its the "mexicans" who get stereotyped.

      ***** like this has almost nothing to do with race, and everything to do with poverty. from the trailer park to the ghetto, those who live on the fringe have a very different world view from those with the luxury to sit on Digg all day.

      now lets all talk about the ills of white society and why that keeps breeding mass murderer teenagers...
    • sweetholymosiah, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4You know the new black generation is not alone in giving up their rights, and allowing themselves to degrade far below their constitutional potential.
    • lukas88, on 12/06/2007, -1/+10The main problem with your post is that you are taking a situation that is heroic and looking at it in the worst possible light. This little girl has done something that even the bravest people would hesitate to do, and all you can do is badmouth her mom. I hate how all you people come off like "well, if I don't say it, it will never get said." Like your words are fire breathing truth. News flash: it gets said, a lot. Usually by morons.

      The reason why we are seeing the pattern that you described has nothing to do with the black race "pissing" anything away. You put a bunch of people with something in common (skin color) in the same situation (poverty) and you are going to see a similar pattern. Only ***** actually think it is because of something they are collectively doing wrong.

      Go look at the demographics of poor white people and you will see the exact same pattern.

      It is really easy to look at a people at just one moment in time and criticize them. But look at their progress for the past 200 years and put it into perspective.

      Does their culture always help their situation? No one can say that gangster rap has a positive effect on the community. At the same time, no culture is perfect. Look at america's culture in general. We are materialistic SUV drivers who are invading other countries and killing innocent people so we can drive our kids to soccer practice in a tank. Look at the effect that our corporations and insatiable greed are having on the world's ecosystem. Our culture is killing the planet and you are worried about a few rappers talking about their hos.

    • digginestdogg, on 12/06/2007, -3/+4"Black man, you don't have to bash white people, all we gotta do is go back home and turn our communities into productive places. All we gotta do is go back home and make our communities a decent and safe place to live. And if we start dotting the Black community with businesses, opening up factories, challenging ourselves to be better than we are, White folk, instead of driving by, using the "N" word, they'll say, look, look at them. Oh, my God. They're marvelous. They're wonderful. We can't, we can't say they're inferior anymore. But, every time we drive by shoot, every time we carjack, every time we use foul, filthy language, every time we produce culturally degenerate films and tapes, putting a string in our women's backside and parading them before the world, every time we do things like this we are feeding the degenerate mind of white supremacy and I want us to stop feeding that mind and let that mind die a natural death."
      --Louis Farrakhan (who for all you crying racist might remember is a Negro himself--last time I checked)

      So Deputy might have been less eloquent and more callous than Minister Farrakhan, but he said nearly the same thing. I think it is sad that people cannot tell the truth if they happen to be Caucasian while a Negro can. Now that's the real racism here.
      • Midvicious, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2Well said except for the last sentence. It's not racism it's just an insecurity.
    • popothebright, on 12/06/2007, -2/+15Dugg up +300 times? Wow. This is a sad day for Digg.

      I don't know what ***** part of the country you live in, but I live in Manhattan and I am surrounded by successful, intelligent, educated black people who have closely knit families and who I'm proud to have as neighbors.

      Furthermore, I think you need to go back and study a little history. Our country has utterly ***** on these people for centuries, and it's only within the last generation that real opportunities have opened up for them.

      God you're a disgusting waste of humanity -- and Internet.

      Just because your trailer is filled with crap doesn't mean you have to blame it on another race.

      • Brabus, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6Amen! It's good to see that Digg has some intelligent people.
      • 68024, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4I seriously wonder if these 300+ diggs are rigged in some way. I mean, this is absolutely astounding to see this anno 2007. I would've hoped people would be a bit smarter by now.
      • Midvicious, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2Awesome, popothebright. Beautifully written.
    • yeti22, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4I think you've misread the article a little bit. If you want to talk about the "degenerate" state of black culture in the U.S., you should start with the the lunatic with the firearm who tried to kill an innocent mother and child. Instead, you've used a last name mismatch as your jumping-off point. Uh, what?
    • XxSRMxX, on 12/06/2007, -5/+7HERE YOUR PROOF! I'M BLACK MY MOTHER AND FATHER MARRIED BEFORE THEY HAD ALL SEVEN OF US. BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY FATHER WORKED. WE WERE NOT ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. HE WENT TO WORK EVERYDAY NOT JAIL. YOUR COMMENT IS VERY RACIST. I AM BEING TO SEE THIS MORE AND MORE ON DIGG. IF THE STORY AS SOMETHING TO DO ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS SOME BIGOT IS ALWAYS THE FIRST TO COMMENT ABOUT "BLACK CULTURE, LIFESTYLE AND SO ON" YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BLACK CULTURE OR LIFESTYLE YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT YOU HEAR ABOUT IN THE NEWS. STEREOTYPES FUEL IGNORANCE IN PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

      • Midvicious, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1I so wish you hadn't typed that in all caps, because it's valid but impossible to read.

        In summary: Stop shouting!
      • iChainsaw, on 12/07/2007, -0/+1SEE?? look what they have done...your typing in all caps now!
      • Notasheeple, on 12/08/2007, -0/+1I would like you to start referring to whites as "European Americans please.
    • j33buscr1p3s, on 12/06/2007, -3/+1While I sympathize with what you're trying to say, you've managed to endorse some very strong stereotypes. I'd like you to consider some things from the article that I believe shed light on the situation:

      The drama began to unfold just before midnight Saturday, when Parker called Ford and asked if she and Alexis could spend the night at Ford's home.

      "She said she had no heat and they were very cold, and I said , sure I'll come and get you," Ford said.
      First of all, why in the hell does anyone in the most developed nation in the world go without heat? I'm not going to make stereotypical judgements about the history of the mother or her employment or anything. I know absolutely nothing about her past, but it is clear that she was atleast concerned for her child, which is enough for me.
      The most damning evidence, and perhaps the most telling about the situation you're trying to point out is that when 911 was called and someone told the operator that they were being held hostage, the operator said no units were available. But, as soon as shots were fired, the police showed up. Now you're telling me if some white woman in the suburbs of Detroit called the police and said she was being held hostage, the police wouldn't be there in minutes? I hardly doubt that.

      While it may be true that the black community lacks responsible role models, there are certainly still systemic barriers to "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps". We quite easily forget that the reason people like Soulja Boy and 50 Cent are popular is because of a little thing we like to call capitalism. These pop artists (I won't even call them rappers) are manufactured to sell, and in that process they reinforce stereotypes to the community. The American Dream teaches us that we can all make something out of ourselves, and to value our material wealth that we have earned. But the people incapable of reaching these goals still hold onto the values of earning as much as you can, however you can.

      I'm not abdicating personal responsibility, but the problem is a lot larger than most people like to think. Fundamentally white middle class America is incapable of fulling understanding the situation that some of our fellow citizens are in.
    • HerbSolo, on 12/06/2007, -1/+1OK, so there's a bit of truth in your comment: many black people choose the wrong role models. But thats not a "black" problem. Just look at the "9th Grade whore" story on the video frontpage.
    • Lennalf, on 12/06/2007, -1/+4Rich people know that a properly educated and sufficiently motivated American public is their worst enemy. Educated Americans question the highly corrupt power structures that currently shape our lives. Educated Americans recognize just now messed up our economic system has become. Educated Americans get pissed off when ***** like the PATRIOT act gets passed. If well-educated Americans became a majority in this country, the super rich and super powerful would be quite *****. So what is their solution? Naturally, to keep us as dumb as possible.

      They have steered the American populus into a consumption-driven culture. This allows them to siphon wealth from the poor to the superwealthy at an ever-increasing rate, but also keeps us occupied with simple entertainment that has little to no redeeming educational value. Quite frankly, some of the media that is sold to us probably makes us dumber. To be successful, companies must target their products toward subcultures that will be likely to buy their product. If that means creating, reinforcing, or perverting an existing subculture, so be it.

      This is not a racial issue so much as it is an all-encompassing societal one. The social engineering that goes hand-in-hand with marketing these products is extremely destructive to the way the average person identifies him/herself. We are meant to believe that all gays are fashion-obsessed and superficial; that all blacks are violent and must have super white sneakers; that all women are sluts and bitches...

      These concepts don't generally begin from real life experiences, but they are borne out in real life by people who define their worlds exactly as the corporate interests would like them to.

      The problem isn't "black culture," so much as American culture. We are sick. No matter what race you are, do yourself a favor and unplug yourself from what the corporate powers have defined as mainstream. Stop watching MTV and BET. Don't listen to Top 40's radio. That time would be much better used reading educationally valuable material, having an intellectual discussion, or staging a protest.

      Or surfing Digg... :-
      • ronaldinho, on 12/06/2007, -0/+2You are off-topic but dugg you up nonetheless. The level of education (yeah, the lack of it really) we have now is what is setting us back. Although the black people have still ***** themselves over these past couple decades ever since Dr. King came aboard and fought for their civil rights
    • Zotnix, on 12/06/2007, -1/+2It is not a "black" issue, as you love to point out in your comment. It is a poor issue. This is something going on in poor America. These issues you relay are not bound by race, as you relay. This is the fundamental flaw in your probably good-intentioned but misinformed, unintentionally racist comment.
    • math0ne, on 12/06/2007, -1/+4Your a racist *****... and so i digg apparently, this make me sick!

      You people ACTUALLY think that white people don't shoot each other in the ghetto, you are mistaking poverty culture for black culture.
    • DandelionFace, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6So you think that we white people don't revel in the trash of our society? Gimme a break. We make them our celebrities and leaders just as much as any other race. Who do you think our little girls look up to in this day and age: Female senators, authors, professors...or Britney and Paris?
    • Icanndiggit, on 12/06/2007, -0/+5Wow! It is times like these that makes it tough to be black on Digg. How could so many people digg you up? A little girl damn near got an entire clip loaded into her, and the first thing you have to say is how messed up black people are. So, would you have done the same if she were white, asian, [insert race here]. How could such a "progressive site" full of "intelligent people" digg up such trash. When will you all learn that this is not an issue of race, culture, or RAP MUSIC! This is an issue of poverty. I don't think you or the people who dugg you up are racist. Mis-informed, a little, ignorant, to an extent. This is the "norm" for black people. I think you have a very narrow view of not only black people, but things in general. Oh and by the way, My father has never been to jail. My parents have been married for over 24 years now, so ***** you.
      • wishninja, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Thank you, this neo-racism that the conservatives are marketing today scares the crap out of me. Do they think it helps? What do they want to achieve by saying such things? (agenda) By their line of logic Paris Hilton and drunk Nascar fans is what white culture is all about and I hardly think they are rejected. Jeff Foxworthy has made his fortune off of the redneck hillbilly culture he celebrates drunken idiocy and is not rejected. Paris is not TV making millions she is not rejected. Just take a look at country music today it is booming by marketing this redneck drunk stereotype. I can't understand them when they speak they also have their own language. What a crock of crap! And to suggest that shooting a little girl in the face is somehow part of black culture is obscene!
    • burnblue, on 12/07/2007, -0/+1The statement was not bigoted, but it makes a sweeping non-factual generalization based on Deputy's narrow view of (or experience with) Black people -- hence he's being called racist. While I agree that there are _too many_ such families, saying it's "the norm" is just dumb. I attended an HBCU (Historically Black College/University), and I cannot think of one person I know right now with an extremely disjointed family or jailed fathers. While I know a lot of Black people have unmarried parents, this is actually mainly an observation when looking at communities living below the poverty line -- you'll see the same is true in Hispanic communities and Third World countries with people of any race. Marriage just isn't as popular a solution if you don't exist in the middle class.

      "But for blacks this is not only the norm, it's celebrated, and the blacks who reject that lifestyle are denigrated and attacked by their own families and communities."
      I know what you mean, but you can't say families who have it together are looked down upon.. envied is more likely.

      I'll make a generalization here, but I know this is true because I 'live' in the Digg community and I can count posts to back up this statement: The average active (commenting) Digg user is filled with racial prejudices while wishing black people would just forget about the whole racist thing, since slavery, etc weren't your "fault". It sickens me.
    • sylviasrevenge, on 12/09/2007, -0/+1You're such a waste of human life for trying to transform a heroic act by a seven year old girl into Deputy Dickwad's Racist Critique on Society.
  • repoulin, on 12/06/2007, -18/+59Deputy has a point and any mention or analysis regarding race and you are without hesitation labeled as racist.
    Anyways it was a good story.
    • wishninja, on 12/06/2007, -18/+10no... he made raciest assumptions about the mother thats why he is a raciest. It is so ***** up to imply that only black people get devorced and the family life of whites are supreme is the reason black are poor and unemployed. Especially on an article like this.
      • Ajajadude, on 12/06/2007, -2/+10Making assumptions based on prevailing cultural idiosyncrasies is not racist. Just because something someone said offends you doesn't automatically make them wrong and racist and you right.

        I never read anything that implied he was saying only blacks got divorced. You completely missed what he was saying and spun into what you want it to mean so you can justify your statement that this guy is racist for speaking what most people are too afraid (even amongst the black community) to say out of fear of being labeled nothing better than a bigoted racist.

        And, yes, wrong article for this topic.
    • MaxPayne3476, on 12/06/2007, -4/+13He was completely correct in his assement. As I pointed out before - in 1997, 25% of black girls 18-19 were pregnant. http://www.siecus.org/pubs/fact/fact0010.html

      It's not racist to point out a realistic figure. Rather then masking it off as bigotry, how about you make a difference?
    • emanpa68, on 12/06/2007, -0/+0I think Chris Rock said it best, theres black people and then there are *****... youtube his videos, very insightful

      The same could be said for all races. But for some reason the black culture gets the most attention because the ones who bring them down are so loud they overshadow normal blacks and fuel rasism towards their entire race by those who havent looked at the big picture for their culture....
    • burnblue, on 12/07/2007, -0/+1He has a point, but it is buried in a prejudiced generalization which is mistakenly attributed to black people rather than poor people, and also had no real bearing on the story (heroic 7 year old)
  • oreonblade, on 12/06/2007, -1/+96Girl's got huge proverbial brass balls...not many 7 year olds would brave gunfire.
    • jmpeagle, on 12/06/2007, -0/+33not many adults would either
    • navitatl, on 12/06/2007, -0/+20Kids are probably more likely actually, since they might not understand what the bullets can do to them.
      • Justice101, on 12/06/2007, -3/+12Bingo, she was probably closing in for a hug, because she was scared of the gunman, mom was to stupid/fat/dum to push the kid away for her safety, and she takes the bullets. Not brave but definitely very sad, and unlucky for that poor little girl. Glad that she's alright. : )
        • dinostabOMG, on 12/06/2007, -5/+3I guess you were there then, telling us how it went down? Thanks.
    • txtphile, on 12/06/2007, -0/+13More to the point, most 7 year olds don't know they are mortal.
    • nonymous666, on 12/06/2007, -2/+4"not many 7 year olds would brave gunfire" ?

      Most seven year olds don't understand it when their hampster dies, let alone realize that they can be killed themselves.
  • robitor, on 12/06/2007, -21/+239There wasn't a unit that the cops could send because the cops were too busy tasering someone who had a bag of weed on them.
    • wishninja, on 12/06/2007, -0/+86"The first operator clicked off and I dialed again and told that operator a guy with a gun was holding me hostage with a mother and baby and threatening to kill us. I told her the name of the gas station and then she said they didn't have a unit to send."

      Man no units to send to a shooting! yea Michigan is pretty much the ***** hole state!
      • jasonmantey, on 12/06/2007, -0/+14It's really more of a Detroit thing. The cops are very understaffed, and often there are so many calls that you can't get their attention. In the suburbs the response would have been much different. And yes, I have lived in both the city [undergrad at wayne state u] and the suburbs, so I know.
        • TruthIsKey, on 12/06/2007, -19/+3Then why didn't the bitch get a gun and protect herself and her child. Another dumb ass mama putting her personal hormones above her child's life. NO CHILD SHOULD HAVE TO THROW THEMSELVES IN FRONT OF A BULLET! If that girl dies its on mamas head.
          • thejeremy, on 12/06/2007, -0/+6There may be some truth in your saying that the girl being shot is her mom's fault, but the fault rests solely with the guy holding the gun in this situation. Yes, the mom obviously doesn't know how to pick winners, but please, stop your ***** ranting about how she's a "dumb ass mama" throughout this entire thread. Her "hormones" have nothing to do with this story whatsoever, and I'm pretty sure the mom feels horrible about what happened. Congratulations, you've been dugg down.

            /shoo
          • TheTaoOfBill, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4Because not only do we have ***** police but we have a ***** load of restrictions on concealed weapons to the point where if you pretty much break any law above a speeding ticket you probably can't carry a concealed weapon.
        • glenneroo, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4yeah then explain this statement:
          "Alghazali said a police car on a street nearby arrived in less than a minute after his call."
          Obviously gas-station workers have higher priority.
    • screwthename, on 12/06/2007, -0/+15"Alghazali said a police car on a street nearby arrived in less than a minute after his call."
      So the gas station clerk called again and it worked. To me it feels like 911 operators are becoming more like Dell reps: you can always try calling again to have a different person solve you problem.
    • ronaldinho, on 12/06/2007, -0/+4That's the first thing I was thinking: why the hell are the cops so slow to the scene of crime? And there was actually a police car on a street nearby! You would think they could just drive their fat asses down there to see whether whatever reported was true or not.
      • mrsocial99mfine, on 11/05/2008, -0/+0Maybe they were busy swallowing a doughnut
  • Ica7us, on 12/06/2007, -21/+2she obviously slipped, like in the end of "Analyze This"

    /sarcasm
  • kmalik, on 12/06/2007, -5/+36amazing! God bless her.
    • TruthIsKey, on 12/06/2007, -4/+17She is truely and angel and deserves a better mother!
    • cw1925, on 12/06/2007, -10/+9As an atheist, I knew that was coming. But, a little superstition never hurt anyone.
      • Fozefy, on 12/06/2007, -3/+10well......actually....
      • DukeMojo, on 12/06/2007, -2/+9Salem Witch Trials, anyone?
      • DrawMeASheep, on 12/06/2007, -5/+4What difference does it make if YOU're atheist? That's irrelevant. No need to bring in your agenda when someone is just wishing another person well.
        • earthceltic, on 12/06/2007, -4/+1Seems just mentioning "god" in the first place put that out an "agenda" already. Who knows? This kid might not have believed in your imaginary christian friends either. That being said, what good is "blessing" someone then? If you wish someone well, wish them well without your religious context.
        • Klarth, on 12/06/2007, -2/+2He's an atheist. He doesn't HAVE an agenda.
    • Subvexer, on 12/06/2007, -6/+3Britney be with you.
    • DukeMojo, on 12/06/2007, -2/+12May the Force be with you.
      • Midvicious, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Give that girl a lollipop and a lightsaber. She's incredible and there was obviously someone or something looking out for her.
    • SuperWinner, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Lost me at "Angel from Heaven"
  • coheedcollapse, on 12/06/2007, -0/+66Holy crap. I steered clear of this article when I read the title earlier today because I thought the poor girl died. I can't believe she survived. That's awesome that she made it.
    • TruthIsKey, on 12/06/2007, -2/+22Well her survival would be amazing and hopefully her mother has learned a valuable lesson, keep 4 time ex-convict boyfriends away from her children. This story is so upsetting. This woman should have been as protective of her child as her child is of her. DISGUSTING!
    • vamper, on 12/06/2007, -1/+3thats a good way to avoid reality... just dont click on a link
      • coheedcollapse, on 12/06/2007, -0/+1Eh, I knew the basic story (other than the fact that she survived) and it holds literally no impact on my personal life, so I figured skipping an in-depth description of horrible news wouldn't hurt.
    • rustintable, on 12/06/2007, -