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- wrs123, on 04/28/2008, -19/+345Attention all moderate Muslims: DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS! Don't sit idly by while ***** like this guy make your entire religion look like crap.
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
-Edmund Burke - MississippiLife, on 04/28/2008, -21/+308FTA - "Not much can be done when we have an honour killing case," said Sergeant Ali Jabbar of Basra police. "You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws. The father has very good contacts inside the Basra government and it wasn't hard for him to be released and what he did to be forgotten."
Is this Muslim justice? - NSResponder, on 04/28/2008, -9/+205HER disgrace? SInce when is loving someone a greater disgrace than committing murder?
That vicious little pig-***** needs to spend the rest of his life behind bars.
-jcr - JigoroKano, on 04/28/2008, -12/+149***** your moral relativism. Murder is murder.
- m8ymerc1, on 04/28/2008, -28/+151It goes to show you that you don't have to be an extremest to be a part of the religion of peace.
- Berkana, on 04/28/2008, -11/+96Because this kind of crap needs to be exposed. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -17/+97Shortly after 9/11 I was part of the crowd that thought only a very few Muslims around the world are evil, most are good people. I still think that about American Muslims, as I have a few Muslim friends and they like to party and have a good time like anyone else. However, I'm having a tougher time believing the vast majority of Muslims that occupy the Mid-East are good people. I lost my faith when a whole town of 1000 people murdered a woman for falling in love with a non-Muslim.
- 9bpm9, on 04/28/2008, -35/+110And that is what separates modern day Christianity and Judaism from Islam.
- ukblacknight, on 04/28/2008, -2/+76What would happen if one of his sons fell in love with a female British soldier?
- m8ymerc1, on 04/28/2008, -7/+81No, this would not be like child sex. It states they were friends and that someone "accused" her of having an affair. we will never know the truth because her peaceful religious father and brothers killed her for peace sake.
- mtwoar, on 04/28/2008, -2/+68When I was in Baghdad (May 03 - May 04) we had quite a few of these so called "honor killings". One in particular that stands out was when my squad was on patrol in the Hy Alamil district and a middle aged man was parading around one of the markets waving a severed hand. This was the hand of his daughter who he and his wife cut off, after they beat/stabbed her to death. He told us that his daughter had slept with a man outside of marriage, so they killed her. We took him to the local Iraqi Police station where he stayed for a long time. It was terribly looked down on, but at the same time none of the Iraqi Police were surprised. Go figure. Anyway just thought I would share my experience. :) Cheers.
- theoiproject, on 04/28/2008, -2/+62all this was on a whim too. They met in March only innocently saw one another and when the father only heard of their "friendship" did he proceed in the act. Suicide bombers, innocent victims, 9/11, the vicious attacks around the world, the hippocracy to hate western ways but eagerness to keep up with American Idol....yes i put them on trial. Should we be in the middle east? We may not change the world and it may not be one persons responsibility but awareness needs to be brought to the attention of the world on the hideous treatment of individuals in the name of religion. That wasn't religious that was emotion. Jealousy, anger, humiliation, revenge.
- BrokenDrum, on 04/28/2008, -3/+56Not sure it's "muslim justice", but sharia law dictates that a muslim woman cannot marry a non-muslim man. (Of course a muslim man can marry a non-muslim woman, islamic equality for you). These laws promote islamic expansion via demographics.
- Aitese, on 04/28/2008, -9/+61What the bloody hell are you talking about?
- OfNumbers, on 04/28/2008, -21/+71How dare you develop a crush! *Stomp, choke, stab*
- Viend, on 04/28/2008, -1/+49Nothing?
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -7/+52Stop claiming things aren't a part of a religion when you don't like them.
- HardChargerxxx, on 04/28/2008, -7/+49Animals!
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -1/+42Worst cop show ever.
- Pittance, on 04/28/2008, -24/+65Cause these are the great, honorable, oppressed people that we are trying so hard to save....can we go back to bombing them indiscriminately now?
- raidfibre, on 04/28/2008, -1/+39"...probably wouldn't murder her" is really the only relevant thing you said.
- proliance, on 04/28/2008, -1/+39That's just plain stupid. This has been going on for a thousand years.
- NSResponder, on 04/28/2008, -3/+40Oh, blow it out your ass. Anyone who would kill their own child is a degenerate. Trying to claim that it's OK because he's Muslim is a vicious smear against all Muslims.
-jcr - ukblacknight, on 04/28/2008, -8/+45I'm assuming you're not from the UK with the way you said "going there". How can you possibly comment on what goes on here? Please highlight a case in the UK where an 'honour killing' has gone unpunished.
- NoCt1, on 04/28/2008, -14/+51This happened during his reign also. Except it was Him or someone under his regime killing also. This was not limited to just one period (post war). Learn your history and culture before you automatically assume that its only like this because the US is there.
- mimigins, on 04/28/2008, -2/+38"The MoD had no official advice for troops on how to behave with Iraqi women. The serviceman involved would not have been told that any relationship with her could put her life at risk, the paper said"
I find that pretty tragic.. He might not have even known. How sad. - wrs123, on 04/28/2008, -4/+38"and the pair, whose relationship was innocent, only ever met while working at the aid station"
Buried for not reading the article - KBailey1734, on 04/28/2008, -6/+40"She now works for an organisation campaigning against honour killings."
Atleast they are working for a better future within themselves now. - greenzrx, on 04/28/2008, -0/+34"They" aren't. The girls mother is. (TFA doesn't state if the 'organization' is founded by muslims or not) Notice how she had to go into hiding for fear of retribution by her husband. And he has the backing of a number of government officials. I find the whole thing utterly disgusting. My heart goes out to that poor woman. I can't imagine what could possibly cause someone to kill their own daughter. And to have government sanctioning of this criminal activity is unfathomable.
- leexy, on 04/28/2008, -3/+36This is stupid. While on a humanitarian level, I feel ashamed to be part of the same species that produces such specimens, I don't feel the least bit responsible for the actions of every person wandering the Earth who professes Islam as a religion.
This is a crime, and it should be treated as such. Seeing anything else in this is pure idiocy. - Mothrog, on 04/28/2008, -2/+34How about prosecuting murders instead of giving the murderers a free pass?
- kotatsu, on 04/28/2008, -14/+44When you build a culture upon the life of a murderous pedophile who was particularly fond of beheading people you don't end up with a very pleasant situation. Islam is the most morally repugnant religion, which is really saying something.
- bsmang, on 04/28/2008, -12/+41More like what separates religion from atheism.
- BertRussell, on 04/28/2008, -4/+31From Wikipedia on Honor Killings:
Honour killings are widespread in Muslim countries, although most Islamic religious authorities prohibit extra-legal punishments such as honor killings, since they consider the practice to be a cultural issue.[38] As certain pre-Islamic cultures still have regional influence, those who practice honour killing use Islam to justify honour killing, and there is support for the act in the religion itself. The death penalty cannot always be applied in the Sharia as murders are a type of "qisas" ("retaliation") crime 2-178. This means that the family of the deceased should be offered the choice of capital punishment or "diyya" ("blood money") and execution can take place without them opting for death. Because a relative(s) is usually responsible for the honor killing, it is unlikely that the family of the deceased will punish one of their own for the crime.[39] However other punishments can be legislated and the murderer cannot pardon himself.[40]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing#Muslim_ ...
Poll out of Britian where 500 Hindus, Muslims, Christians and Sikhs were intervied finds that 1 in 10 British Asian Youths believe Honor Killings can be justified.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_5 ...
What it looks like is this is a wide-spread ancient cultural tradition that Islam hasn't been able to stamp out because of a loophole in Sharia Law which offers and encourages people to seek monetary compensation rather than execution for murder retribution since families usually don't want to kill one of their own for defending the family honor.
For those equating this action with Islam-in-itself, it looks like they're wrong - govsucks, on 04/28/2008, -1/+28Yeah, just because they call themselves Muslims doesn't mean you can label them Muslim.
/sarcasm - inactive, on 04/28/2008, -13/+39And we as enlightened westerners can do nothing, we can't intervene, we can barely protest, we can't take these women into safe environments or punish the guilty. We, the civilized, just stand there, mouths wide open in shock, faces pale with disgust and loathing of such primitive societies as we repress the desire to kill the father just as ruthless as he smote his own daughter.
And do we provide a better example? No we do not. We steal their resources, use vastly superior weaponry in a display of "might makes right", our own countries also being overrun by "theocrats" and "conservatives" who'd do the equivalent here if they could, and we treat our poor and disenfranchised, our old and unemployed as social rejects, in such a manner they wither away in despair.
Oh how I much the current barbaric age of humanity, and yet it is so much better than it used to be. Still I'd have it much much better. - punkcat, on 04/28/2008, -3/+29his question is justified by the quote "You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws."
elaborate on the subject if you can, and stop throwing out some childish i am better than you taunt. - Risingashes, on 04/28/2008, -1/+27The inability to see something from someones point of view does not in any way justify their point of view.
The whole concept behind killing your daughter because they apparently dishonoured him is wrong. It treats woman like objects- able to be disposed of as you would a stubborn goat.
There are customs, beliefs and acts throughout Western culture that are vile and should be cast out- however this incident cannot be justified by simply saying it's acceptable over there. Some customs are wrong. - Slackdragon, on 04/28/2008, -5/+30I can't help but believe that such silence on the outside is veiled head-nodding and covert grinning behind closed doors.
I -want- to believe moderate Islam exists, but WHERE is it? I don't hear it. I don't see it. Silence is tacit support. This extremism has taken a wonderful vibrant culture and turned it into a nightmare. What used to be the seat of science and culture before the middle-ages has been shifted into a backwards dust bowl by these zealots
I think they've been repressed mentally so long they agree with this type of barbarism, which is why you don't hear anyone standing up in outrage. And you see this so-called "father" literally getting away with murder. - Fartbandit, on 04/28/2008, -1/+24The 2 cases of so called 'honour killings' ive heard about in the UK have resulted in swift justice for the perpetrators with each gaining a full life sentence... you claims have no basis in reality...
- Samurai77, on 04/28/2008, -5/+27Hummm, is this the stuff I'm supposed to be tolerant of, cause they say it's important to be tolerant of other cultures...Well I guess I'm intolerant then.
- BrokenDrum, on 04/28/2008, -7/+29It has everything to do with islam, a muslim women cannot marry a non-muslim man under the infallible law of god (islamic sharia law) - FACT
- potisreallygood, on 04/28/2008, -32/+54In other news...
Girl, 14 (plus family), raped, killed, and burned in Iraq by US soldiers for being hot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_killings - SpaceMonkeyZero, on 04/28/2008, -1/+22You would rather censor stories you don't agree with? How very progressive of you.
- Tr33fiddy, on 04/28/2008, -3/+24I'm concerned about creeping Islamicisation here too but if that HAD happened in the UK, the father, any member of his family who kept it quiet and any so-called contacts in the government would very swiftly find themselves picking up the soap.
- sublingo, on 04/28/2008, -10/+31Dude, what are they supposed to do? Bring it up in their weekly meeting?
- NoCt1, on 04/28/2008, -1/+22FTA: "I screamed and called out for her two brothers so they could get their father away from her. But when he told them the reason, instead of saving her they helped him end her life," Ms Hussain said. She then left her husband and has since divorced him. She has received threats from her husband's family and is in hiding. She now works for an organisation campaigning against honour killings.
And i thought Thanksgiving at my families house was rough.. The worst we got was battered bodies from some football(american) games.. - inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+20Murder is wrong regardless of cultural norms. There are still cultures in Inidia that promote female infanticide, using your logic, since that's how things are over there it's normal and we should accept it. Murder is universally understood to be ethically wrong, it's the reason behind the act that differ and result in the relativist point of view that you take. Killing in the case of self-defense for example may be necessary but Honour killings are not necessary as there are many alternatives, thus honour killings are wrong regardless of culture.
- NoCt1, on 04/28/2008, -4/+23@elassowipo
A soldier shooting another soldier is one thing.. Soldier shooting a civillian is a different story. Both are considered murder but under different guidlines. This was not an act of war. nor was this in im assuming self defense. This was all about a man with an pride that he didnt care whether or not it was his daughter or someone else. That is also murder. The difference. It was a father killing his daughter because she loved an invading soldier. It is not his choice to be there he is following orders.. Im sure if they all could be asked they wouldnt want to shoot anyone. The murder was wrong.. End of Story. - steammonkey, on 04/28/2008, -1/+20Islam allows for MEN to marry non-muslim women. Women don't have the same perogative, or any perogatives whatsoever for that matter.
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