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- mcla007, on 08/11/2008, -31/+193“Why won’t America and Nato help us? If they won’t help us now, why did we help them in Iraq?”
I assume "sucker" is a word Georgians are not familiar with. - Berkana, on 08/11/2008, -22/+162Keep in mind some of people we've back stabbed:
1) the Afghans whom we armed and trained to fight the Russians. When the Russians left, we showed no interest in helping them rebuild their nation, and the religious radicals went and filled the power vacuum.
2) the Iraqis, whom we armed and trained to fight the Iranians, whom we armed with chemical weapons. They consulted with us before invading Kuwait because the Kuwaitis were "slant drilling" to tap Iraqi oil fields near the border, and we gave them the go-ahead, then we went and kicked their asses after they invaded Kuwait.
We say we want to bring "democracy" to the Middle east, but the CIA was behind the coup that overthrew the democratically elected leader of Iran in the 50's because he nationalized Iranian oil to rectify the problem of the oil companies splitting the oil wealth unjustly (if I remember correctly, the oil companies were giving the Iranians less than 5% of the oil revenues, and Mosadeq wanted at least 50%), and in his wake, we installed the tyrannical Shah.
The Georgians are understandably pissed. Who knows? Maybe the Bush administration is letting the Russians get busy with Georgia so they won't bother us if we attack Iran.
The Georgians shouldn't hold their breath. Our military is already over-stretched. - chrislongridge, on 08/11/2008, -32/+119“Why won’t America and Nato help us? If they won’t help us now, why did we help them in Iraq?”
Because Georgia decided to invade without good reason. Oh... wait... - QsheiK, on 08/10/2008, -70/+156I've quoted this before, but I'll quote it again:
"The only thing more dangerous than being America's enemy is being America's ally." - Eric Margolis - strictnein, on 08/11/2008, -7/+82Because it's demonstrably false:
UK
Japan
Germany
Three countries that have fared better as an ally of the US than as an enemy. More recent times:
South Korea
Kuwait
Saudi Arabia (whether this is beneficial to the US is another question)
Israel
Poland
How has India and China been negatively affected by their increasing positive relationships with the US? How has Canada and Mexico? What "dangerous" things have ever happened to Canada?
The tougher question is which ally is it that has fared worse because of its relationship with the US? - djRob, on 08/11/2008, -7/+76Ivan to Dick - Dick are you going to help Georgia?
Dick- Maybe.
Ivan - Do you want Russia to sell advanced defense systems to Iran?
Dick - No.
Ivan - So are you going to help Georgia?
Dick - No.
Ivan - Good boy :-) - inactive, on 08/11/2008, -13/+65You started it.
- exomni, on 08/11/2008, -19/+66Help you? Help you do what? You killed 1400 people invading South Ossetia four days ago, and you don't expect to get bombed back, you stupid *****? Georgia needs some new leaders who aren't ***** in the head. Saakashvili is a ***** moron.
We've been helping Gerogia since the beginning. We've supported them in bid for NATO membership, we've given them loads of arms. And then they go and invade South Ossetia. ***** them. ***** idiots.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sou ... - strictnein, on 08/11/2008, -9/+55Russia defended itself by bombing civilians and ports outside of the disputed zone? That's straight out of Pravda.
- geekee, on 08/11/2008, -2/+45Don't worry. The UN is working on the problem.
- strictnein, on 08/11/2008, -24/+66That's a Kissinger quote and it's a worthless quote.
- chrisvc86, on 08/11/2008, -2/+41This is a ***** situation.
- Lindz2000, on 08/11/2008, -14/+49Idiots! The US did help you.
By supplying you all those arms, courting you with the promise of inclusion in NATO (nothing to do with your strategic worth to them of course) and training your troops.
So, as you can see you were helped, to get yourself into this *****. Some people are never satisfied. - zadadka, on 08/11/2008, -12/+42Expecting UN, NATO or anyone else to support then when they were and are the invading aggressor is just plain dumb of them....particularly in going up against Russia.
They chose to ignore diplomatic routes, that was their bad.
I do sympathise with the civilians, of course, but then, it's always the civilians that suffer in these situations....your leader is a fool on a fool's mission. - geoken, on 08/11/2008, -8/+37How can you accept the status of Georgia as a legitimate country, while not accepting the autonomy of Ossetia?
Basically Georgia is allowed to say "We don't want to be part of Russia" and they're not part of Russia, but when Ossetia says "We don't want to be part of Georgia" it's too bad for them and they better shut up or Georgia will bombard their capitol? - DCMacHead, on 08/11/2008, -8/+37read up a little on it...i thought that, too, but this section of georgia wanted to be part of russia for over 10 years...they've had votes, etc. on the issue.
the russians were justified initially, but they went beyond the scope of what was legitimate when they started to invade the rest of georgia) - RogerStrong, on 08/11/2008, -14/+43America could cure cancer, aids and hunger in one day, and Margolis would find some angle to denounce it as pure evil.
- SteelChicken, on 08/11/2008, -23/+52+1
Georgia planned this from the beginning. Hey US, we will send a few thousand troops to help in Iraq, and then when we start ***** with Russia by invading S. Ossetia, you must come help us!!! OH THE HUMANITY
OH and dont forget to add a staged heart wrenching picture of some woman and her kid. OH THE HUMANITY - gtluke, on 08/11/2008, -2/+30because digg would complain that we are meddling in other countries affairs
- msimeth, on 08/11/2008, -1/+26Sorry, they have the oil pipeline. It is the main competition to russian oil for eastern europe.
- moulin1, on 08/11/2008, -5/+29Apparently Georgians never heard of the Bay of Pigs.
- headzoo, on 08/11/2008, -1/+22It's not that simple. That's like a friend helping paint your house, and then him asking you to kill someone for him. "What, I helped you, and now you won't help me?".
There's a big difference between Georgia helping out a little with Iraq, and us taking on Russia. - ganjadude4391, on 08/11/2008, -8/+28In Georgia... Russia invades you!
- inactive, on 08/11/2008, -29/+49The guy leading this country is doing exactly what castro did during the cuban missile crisis. He's got personal vendettas against russia. He's so screwed in the head that he essentially attacked in a situation that he had no chance of winning. It's the same situation castro would have been in if he would have launched one of those missiles into the United states. Everyone in Cuba would have died, but Castro didn't care. He just wanted to start world war three to get back at his personal enemies. That's exactly what georgia is doing to the united states right now. Unfortunately in this case, I think neoconservatives actually want this conflict to expand and are behind georgias actions.
- oli5993, on 08/11/2008, -4/+24FTA:
“Why won’t America and Nato help us? If they won’t help us now, why did we help them in Iraq?”
"[...]Why were our soldiers in Kosovo and Iraq if we don’t get any help from the West now?”
From their point of view, they have a point... - inactive, on 08/11/2008, -20/+39"We Helped in Iraq"......So now they know how it feels to be invaded, occupied, and make large holes in your country for fun?
Karma is a bitch! - CollegeRuled, on 08/11/2008, -2/+20The Georgians want us to start World War III. How could you possibly support that?
- exomni, on 08/11/2008, -0/+17Dude, are you that ignorant? What do you think all the fuss over Georgia has been for in the first place?
- atdigg, on 08/11/2008, -27/+44Invaded itself? Russians are in Georgia, Georgians are in Georgia, do the math who is the aggressor.
- vism, on 08/11/2008, -1/+17"The United States supported Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War as a counterbalance to post-revolutionary Iran. The support took the form of technological aid, intelligence, the sale of dual-use and military equipment, and direct involvement in warfare against Iran." source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._support_for_Iraq ...
"The American ambassador declared to her Iraqi interlocutor that Washington, “inspired by the friendship and not by confrontation, does not have an opinion” on the disagreement which opposes Kuwait to Iraq, stating "we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts". She also let Saddam Hussein know that the U.S. did not intend "to start an economic war against Iraq". These statements may have misled Saddam into believing he had received a diplomatic green light from the United States to invade Kuwait" source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Kuwait#Ir ... - rthakidn, on 08/11/2008, -0/+16You my friend are ignorant. Russia and Georgia are/were equals, as states, in the former Soviet Union as were many other "state". To say Georgia doesn't want to be part of Russia is like saying Oregon doesn't want to be part of California (not that I'd blame them). In my comparison, Ossentia would be equivelant to Portland, but now California wants it. So California is encouraging Portlandites to be part of CA but Oregon will not let it happen. God, people who have no grasp of history should not comment here.
- Metasquares, on 08/11/2008, -2/+17So basically the USA is wrong if they step into the conflict, wrong if they stay out of it.
- spongya77, on 08/11/2008, -0/+15Like 2 inches on your globe?
Dude, Georgia is light years from Sarajevo. - inactive, on 08/11/2008, -0/+14Yes the UN will CONDEMN Russia.. and if that doesn't work... they will STRONGLY CONDEMN Russia and then create another stronger resolution saying they VERY STRONGLY CONDEMN Russia.
That will show'em!! - Pyehole, on 08/11/2008, -10/+23It's a Bush family tradition. Just ask the Kurds how long it too George senior to make good on his word.
- dkapuchino, on 08/11/2008, -7/+20Ossetia is historically Georgia. Ossetia has been part of Georgia before the Ossetians even came and settled that land.
NOT EVEN RUSSIA recognizes Ossetia as an independent state. Ossetia is just an excuse to invade Georgia. - AhniTipesh, on 08/11/2008, -0/+13Think about it guys. Should the US really intervene in a war Georgia had no hope in winning? Should we intervene and go up against a nuclear power? As much of a ass as this will make me sound, the Georgian military leaders/government were being idiots if they thought we would help them against a nuclear power. It would put us all in danger.
- sirber, on 08/11/2008, -1/+14Shared Object Layer ?
- seanof, on 08/11/2008, -1/+14As a matter of fact they do have oil and Bush knows about it. They have been giving America access to oil for a few years now.
- lba1986, on 08/11/2008, -0/+12What "treates" are you talking about?
- bicyclethief, on 08/11/2008, -6/+18Georgians need to learn an American acronym: SOL.
- geoken, on 08/11/2008, -2/+14Who cares about history? Quebec is historically part of Canada, if they voted in the referendum to separate would Canada be allowed to shoot rockets in to downtown Montreal?
- inactive, on 08/11/2008, -2/+13There is no such thing as being Russia's ally, you're either their bitch or their enemy
- AeroMerde, on 08/11/2008, -8/+19Georgia wasn't the aggressor at all. Granted, they were heavy handed, but it was their right to prevent a part of their nation from seceding. Similarly to the US in the Civil War. Russia isn't letting Chechnyans break off, so their actions are hypocritical.
- kratsnitram, on 08/11/2008, -4/+15This is not even remotely accurate. To suggest that Castro wanted to launch missiles against the US is not just inaccurate, it is ludicrous. I don't disagree with your comment regarding the Neocons, but your comments about Castro and the missile crisis are simply incorrect.
- markgl, on 08/11/2008, -0/+11yeah if we go in a fight russia, welcome WW3. That is NOT gonna happen!
- emkaysmith, on 08/11/2008, -5/+15Castro didn't possess a single freaking nuke -- the Russians did. They wanted to use Cuba as a really big launching platform, and Cuba was dependent on Soviet aid (thanks to the idiotic U.S. embargo . . .), so Castro was reduced to saying "Yes sir, no sir," and licking a lot of boots.
I'm not crazy about Georgia -- or any other gang of slavs -- but this is all on Russia's head. Putin wants to eradicate Georgia, simple as that. The Ukraine is next. Another decade of that, and the old Soviet empire will have been reconstituted with Czar Vladimir at its head.
You guys heard the quote from the Kremlin this morning, didn't you? "Russia has been the only force for stability in the Caucasus for the past two hundred years." - inactive, on 08/11/2008, -0/+10Thank you for bringing some well needed humor to the thread...
- dkapuchino, on 08/11/2008, -2/+12And the main reason Russia's invading.
- hakz, on 08/11/2008, -17/+27There is no such thing as being America's ally, you're either their bitch or their enemy
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