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- theBean42, on 07/02/2009, -18/+171Dugg for human rights !
- Ninh, on 07/02/2009, -5/+151Prepare for REALLY gay Bollywood movies!
- iDoraemon, on 07/02/2009, -4/+103"So my dad started getting really irritated, and going 'This is wrong. Indian men should not be gay.' And I go, 'Dad, we got a population crisis over there. We could use a couple of ***** in India right now."
- Russell Peters - tgjerusalem, on 07/02/2009, -11/+9617% of the world's population is in India, and this is a massive victory for the relatively young but rapidly growing gay rights movement there.
This law wasn't Indian in origin, it was an archaic remnant from British colonial rule. It's far past time it was repealed. This is just the start of a much longer battle for full legal and social equality, but it's an incredible milestone and will set the stage for far greater victories.
My favorite bit of the ruling (found at http://wockner.blogspot.com/2009/07/will-17-of-wor ...
""The criminalisation of homosexuality condemns in perpetuity a sizable section of society and forces them to live their lives in the shadow of harassment, exploitation, humiliation, cruel and degrading treatment at the hands of the law enforcement machinery. The Government of India estimates the MSM [men who have sex with men] number at around 25 lacs. The number of lesbians and transgenders is said to be several lacs as well. This vast majority (borrowing the language of the South African Constitutional Court) is denied "moral full citizenship". Section 377 IPC grossly violates their right to privacy and liberty embodied in Article 21 insofar as it criminalises consensual sexual acts between adults in private. These fundamental rights had their roots deep in the struggle for independence and, as pointed out by Granville Austin in "The Indian Constitution - Cornerstone of A Nation", "they were included in the Constitution in the hope and expectation that one day the tree of true liberty would bloom in India"." - lexaniaz, on 07/02/2009, -0/+39The US Supreme Court did the same thing in 2003. We are just six years late.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v_Texas - FirstOne1, on 07/02/2009, -2/+41"The ruling means the law -- Indian penal code section 377, which had criminalized consensual homosexual acts between adults -- has been partly struck down but remains in place as far as forced homosexual acts are concerned."
aren't forced homosexual acts called rape - eyepennies, on 07/02/2009, -3/+35Gay people in India, I assume, as well as anyone who cares about human rights.
- RSS14, on 07/02/2009, -0/+29Russell Peters - Gay Indians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqESVHhzeyU
This guy is hilarious! - ZiggyPlayedG, on 07/02/2009, -0/+27Uh...it was. And now it's not. Did you even read the article? *****, the headline?
- apzdsx, on 07/02/2009, -0/+26You just came out of the closet spitfireXVI. Straight guys don't say fagglio.
And isolating yourself from homosexuals won't stop your unquenchable thirst for *****. - pintomp3, on 07/02/2009, -2/+28Non-bigots?
- JKount, on 07/02/2009, -0/+23How is a true statement rude?
- ZiggyPlayedG, on 07/02/2009, -9/+31Why the ***** was sex illegal in the first place? When are people gonna learn that we are all equal, regardless of who you choose to *****. Well, no, not all of us are equal. Criminalize ignorance and hate, please.
I mean, think about it. Sex! Such a basic human right, such a harmless, beautiful thing, prohibited by law. So stupid. - d3dm, on 07/02/2009, -1/+19Dey tuk er blow jerbs!
- lebruf, on 07/02/2009, -5/+23I had no idea it was illegal out there. Monkeys out and about in Delhi can do whatever the hell they want, cows can too. I guess it was only a matter of time before they let humans do what they wanted?
- Velnich, on 07/02/2009, -1/+19Congrats indeed, not just to gay Indians, but to all of India that much have been suffering the burden of wasted taxes punishing all those gay criminals up till now.
- absurdist, on 07/02/2009, -0/+18"fagglios"?
_FAGGLIOS?!?!?!_
What the ***** is wrong with you? - rancor01, on 07/02/2009, -0/+17That guy is hilarious.. Seriously, if you haven't already be sure to check him out.
- preppypoof, on 07/02/2009, -0/+17that's the point; gay sex is still illegal if it's rape
- sulthernao, on 07/02/2009, -0/+16British Colonialism: their laws are still on the books in a ton of places.
- nreynolds, on 07/02/2009, -0/+14@ Rikkochet
because both forced/unforced were part of the same law, so it's just clarifying that they didn't strike down the entire law. - brownsound00, on 07/03/2009, -0/+13In the words of Pierre Trudeau "The Government does not belong in the bedrooms of [our] people"
- solid12345, on 07/02/2009, -7/+20They aren't really gay already?
- lexaniaz, on 07/02/2009, -1/+13Nice link! I was wondering if it was legal in the rest of India. The article explains it quite nicely. I also like this part:
"In the present case, the two constitutional rights relied upon i.e. 'right to personal liberty' and 'right to equality' are fundamental human rights which belong to individuals simply by virtue of their humanity, independent of any utilitarian consideration. A Bill of Rights does not 'confer' fundamental human rights. It confirms their existence and accords them protection."
In short: Even they are human beings, no different from you and I, and should be treated as such.
I'm proud to be an Indian. - Luvboat, on 07/03/2009, -0/+12Thinkin of moving, IVI3?
- ortucis, on 07/03/2009, -0/+10I haven't seen cows and monkey roaming around in Delhi for years now..
Oh wait, you are from US? Well that explains your knowledge level right there. - inactive, on 07/03/2009, -0/+10His Chinese impression is awesome.
- kisstmagic, on 07/02/2009, -1/+10Awesome news.
- inactive, on 07/02/2009, -0/+8obvious troll is obvious
- PatrickBrown, on 07/03/2009, -1/+9All I am hearing from you is "GAYS INDIA YES! YES! YES! LEGALLY! JTT!"
Nice to see you supporting human rights. - pintomp3, on 07/02/2009, -0/+8Sadly, religious fundamentalist politicians still oppose the decision:
"Consider the Lawrence case decided by the Supreme Court in June. The Court determined that Texas had no right to establish its own standards for private sexual conduct, because gay sodomy is somehow protected under the 14th amendment “right to privacy.” Ridiculous as sodomy laws may be, there clearly is no right to privacy nor sodomy found anywhere in the Constitution."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul120.html
Since vaginal sex isn't in the constitution either, I wonder if he feels the government can ban that too. - BowieX, on 07/02/2009, -5/+13Sodomy is finally legal!
Oh wait, that's right, the story of Sodom has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOMOSEXUALITY WHATSOEVER. - ftc08, on 07/03/2009, -0/+8"Gay" = Homosexual
"Sex" = Intercourse
I don't see how either of those are offensive. - tmyprod, on 07/03/2009, -1/+9Awesome, looks like India just got significantly more fabulous!
Good work, India.
/sincerity - prashantpawar, on 07/02/2009, -0/+7No way Indian government criticized Canada for not allowing Gay marriage to be legal.
That's like saying US criticized the Hajj reforms in Pakistan. - vinod1978, on 07/03/2009, -0/+7Suricou - India was quite prosperous before the British came to India. The British took control of India's resources and taxed citizens unbearably for 200 years. I suggest you read a history book (or type in a few searches in google)
- tgjerusalem, on 07/03/2009, -0/+6The story of Sodom was a typical ancient Mediterranian hospitality myth. It's repeated almost identically in the book of Judges, except there it's the tribe of Bengamine, and they rape a woman to death instead.
Ezekiel spells out the 'sins of sodom,' and it's neglect and cruelty to the poor and foreigners. - Elderon, on 07/03/2009, -0/+6 Well that's all well and good, but I really fail to see why this is a state / national issue anywhere. What reason or right does any government have to tell you how you can have sex, I mean as long as you are not trying to have sex with a minor or rape someone I don't really see an issue.
I think most people need to just mind their own business and for those trying to make it a religious issue how about you work on the whole insane divorce rate and the rampant adultery before you start pointing fingers, let God deal with it. - inactive, on 07/02/2009, -2/+8Starting now, gays in India.
- bengrg, on 07/03/2009, -2/+8what i like most is that this is a big ***** you to the RSS, MOSLEM'S (ARAB COLONIZED), AND VATICAN / MISSIONARY crowd.
Before Arab armies invaded and before the crazy missionaries invaded India, India was one of the most sexually free societies on the planet. - charlie6969, on 07/02/2009, -11/+17Congratulations, India!
I think (hope) that someday people will care about others' feelings more than what they are consentually doing in their bedroom.
Where Community means more than a Bank name.
Where the sick and dying are treated with respect and dignity.
Where the LIVING are treated with respect, dignity and their decisions are honored.
Again, Congrats.
The rest was just my wish list.:) - monkeyrun, on 07/03/2009, -0/+6lol 3 gay Indian guys came on the screen.
- nismerf, on 07/02/2009, -2/+8They should do something like "It is none of the government's business what you do in the bedroom law". And they should do it in the US. Gay, straight, sodomy whatever, if both consent why should the government get to decide if and how two consenting adults enjoy one another. Its because of those who wish to control everyone else to their standards that even the fact of being gay is a social status. I bet if doggy style was outlawed you would have doggie style pride groups! This world is gong to crap.
- jonglebeats, on 07/03/2009, -0/+6“The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.”
- Pierre Elliott Trudeau - hmunkey, on 07/03/2009, -0/+6Know what's annoying? Being an American born/raised guy of Indian descent. People always ask me about/compare me to Russell Peters.
I realize I'm brown but I don't go around asking white people if they know Jimmy Carter or anything... - ZeroCubed, on 07/03/2009, -0/+5"Any homosexual act without the consent of either partner remains a criminal offense"
YES! EXACTLY the point! I've heard idiot neocons and religious extremists claim that legalizing gay sex and marriage will lead to polygamy and pedophilia. What total BS. Legalizing gay sex in India didn't make gay rape legal. Legalizing gay marriage won't make polygamy legal, nor will it make pedophilia legal.
Sometimes I wonder where the brain of some people went. - darknecross, on 07/02/2009, -0/+5MSM is now my new nickname for gay guys.
- morepowerr, on 07/03/2009, -0/+5But hookers are still illegal in 99% of US.
- Kunaliday, on 07/03/2009, -0/+51 LAC = 100,000
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