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First Guantanamo VIDEO of Prisoner Interrogation released!!!

news.bbc.co.uk — A videotape of a detainee being questioned at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp has been released for the first time, Canadian media have reported. They say the footage shows a 16-year-old Omar Khadr being asked by Canadian officials in 2003 about the events leading up to his capture by US forces.

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  • ZacT, on 07/15/2008, -12/+39And here I though that Canada was trying to help him.... I guess I've been lied to.
    • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -2/+12I guess not only in the US, the future generations will be ashamed of their anchestors.

      We have a similar issue here in Switzerland if it comes to second world war atrocities. We weren't the ones killing all the jews but we were the ones trading with Germany and refusing jewish refugees. ***** like this comes always back to you or your descendants
      • theJeebus, on 07/15/2008, -5/+5Only if you are a collectivist. Personally I only take blame for my own actions, not any ancestors, family or not.
    • jabberwolf, on 07/15/2008, -3/+9Actually 7 hours of video were released to his lawyers...
      But his lawyers only released 10 minutes of video.

      Now why do you think only 10 minutes were released?
      • CryRightardCry, on 07/15/2008, -9/+5Hey, good for you to assume he's lying and this is all just a scam.

        Just out of curiosity, how do you justify that with the preponderance of evidence that abuse has occurred?
        It's amazing to me how easily you people justify imprisoning innocent people. Or at least imprisoning people who can't be proven to have commited a crime.
      • theJeebus, on 07/15/2008, -1/+4Because... no wait... let me think.... it's because they... hold on... well, because he's... wait... hold on...ok, I give up. Please tell me why?
      • jabberwolf, on 07/15/2008, -3/+3CryRightardCry

        Do you actually READ ? No really, do you?
        "Just out of curiosity, how do you justify that with the preponderance of evidence that abuse has occurred?"
        There is? Where from an Afghan prison - probably.
        In the USA or Gitmo, was there any proof? - no.
        So how I justify something you ASSUME? I don't.

        "It's amazing to me how easily you people justify imprisoning innocent people."

        In the article "At one point he lifts his orange shirt to show the foreign ministry official and agents from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) wounds on his back and stomach which he says he sustained in Afghanistan"

        He was complaining and crying because he wanted to go home and complaining about his eyes and feet both of which were not injured. As a child, and not responsible, he was saying quite alot of things. It's interesting that that 10 minutes was the only footage released by his lawyers. Maybe if ALL the footage was released, you would have a decent argument.



      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2The Administration is free to release the remaining minutes, given it's so damning to the kid, I'd have thought the evidence it holds would make this case a slam-dunk.
    • ploke, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Check out http://www.hewas15.com if you want to do something about it.
  • DeadSkinMask, on 07/15/2008, -18/+80Can someone explain to me why this prison complex is not on American soil?
    ...and Cuba of all places?

    I don't understand why America boycotts everything Cuban, but then uses their land to torture prisoners suspected of terrorism.
    • manu3l, on 07/15/2008, -2/+26I think the Americans have a lease for that land.
    • RioMo, on 07/15/2008, -9/+35The easy answer to that question is this:

      1. Gitmo is sovereign U.S. Soil.

      2. How many reporters do you think want to stand on Cuban Soil to get inside the military base.

      3. Did I mention MILITARY.
      • consonance, on 07/15/2008, -0/+15Actually Gitmo is not sovereign U.S. soil. The land is merely owned by the United States, but it is not incorporated, nor is it a territory. That's why Bush sent all of the "enemy combatants" to Gitmo starting in 2002; he thought the courts wouldn't have jurisdiction over the base. However, that changed with Rasul v. Bush (2004), when historical common law was used to demonstrate that the courts have jurisdiction over aliens detained in all locations within the sovereign's control. And, of course, that formed part of the stare decisis precedent for Boumediene v. Bush...
      • daviangel, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5It's a man-made "black hole" on earth basically is what it is.
        Anyways, Castro can't kick them out as long as the US keeps paying their lease.
        Set up as a naval coaling station, "Gitmo," as the base is affectionately known, evolved into a refueling station as technology advanced. The base was leased in 1903 for $2,000 per year on a perpetual basis. In 1934, the lease was renegotiated to $4,085 per year.

        The U.S. State Department sends a check to the Cuban government every July, but, McCoy said, Cuban dictator Fidel Castro has only cashed one -- in 1959, the year he took power.
    • GovContractor, on 07/15/2008, -4/+9I suppose they could stay at your house.
    • jacquesLEshock, on 07/15/2008, -7/+6to hide it?
    • mm911, on 07/15/2008, -5/+5Wikipedia: use it.
      • czeiszperger, on 07/15/2008, -2/+4yeah cause wikipedia has never been wrong before. "sarcasm"
      • ShisouKen, on 07/15/2008, -1/+9For the last time, things that can be considered factual information on wikipedia have sources to back up their claims, and a lot of the times they are from primary sources.

        Stop feeding into the stigma that nothing on Wikipedia can be taken at face value. YES there are times when users edit things in without sources (and they are clearly marked as such) but for the most part the information there is as valid as something your read in the newspaper...

        DHDuhhuhuhuhuh the newspaper is full of lies too duhuhuhuhuh
    • doctechnical, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2One pretty obvious reason is that it's going to be pretty hard to escape from the place... the only ways in and out are through guarded gates or a minefield.
    • Retsep, on 07/15/2008, -1/+25Contrary to RioMo's response, it is NOT us soil, it is not an embassy and is therefore leased territory of Cuba. By keeping the detainees off of American soil you avoid the need to give them rights that Americans are entitled to. This is consistant with treatment of many Germans in WWII who were kept in France.
      • DeadSkinMask, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Thanks.
        That's pretty much the answer I was looking for in the first place.
        Cheers.
    • provost, on 07/15/2008, -2/+13now hey come on. The reason we are still boycotting cuba after 50 years is because how affective the embargo has been in shortening castro's reign.

      .... wait.
    • Egoist, on 07/15/2008, -2/+5Because a prison full of suspected terrorists would be a target by other terrorists. By placing it off of the US mainland, the idea is to not add additional targets within the continental US. And since we're so cozy with the Cubans....
      • ZenMojo, on 07/15/2008, -1/+3Before we housed suspected terrorists in Gitmo we housed Haitian refugees that we didn't want taking a step on US soil.
  • edagan, on 07/15/2008, -6/+15For the full fotage release go here:
    http://www.thatdanny.com/2008/07/15/gitmo-interrro ...
  • Paramnesia, on 07/15/2008, -21/+72As a Canadian, I am deeply ashamed of my government & so called 'security forces' for their pathetic, self righteous, ***** excuses to commit crimes in the name of protecting me and my family. Should Canada ever be invaded, no one will need to tell me to take up arms and protect my country. I will do it much like this boy of 15 did in Afghanistan.

    • prattmic, on 07/15/2008, -4/+14Careful what you say, the Canadian forces are searching these comments for terrorists.
    • mm911, on 07/15/2008, -22/+6If Canada were being run by fanatical Allah/Jesus/Buddha/FSM-loving anti-civilization psychopaths who, for no reason other than "God told us to," killed thousands innocent civilians in a foreign land, would you still take up arms to defend it against liberators? Because that's what this kid did.
      • str3ama, on 07/15/2008, -2/+15wow that was a stupid comment.
      • Paramnesia, on 07/15/2008, -4/+11If only you knew some history, you would know that the Taliban (and bin laden) were funded and trained by the CIA.
        That the Taliban were in the US on business just 1 year before the attack, when they refused to allow an oil pipeline to cross their country. Guess what happened after the 'liberation'? Signed. Did you know the Afghani president used to work for Haliberrton?
        As for Bin laden, the FBI has confirmed that he is not wanted by them as they have nothing to link him to the 911 attacks.
        Fact is, you dont know ***** about why you are even there and all of that is irrelevant anyway.
        Fact is the boy, which was actually 14, was sharing in the common spirit of resistance to foreign occupation.
        I'll get my head out of my ass the day you get your head into a book.
      • petrodollar, on 07/15/2008, -6/+1"killed thousands innocent civilians in a foreign land"

        Those thousands of civilians were also a bunch of backwards, violent, fundamentalist wackjobs, so I don't know why you think the USA ought to give a ***** that thousands of them were killed.
      • oscenester, on 07/15/2008, -3/+3Wow this thread is full of stupid. Im ashamed to be a part of it. But i had to throw in my two cents....

        A) 9/11 was allowed to happen. B) That kid had every right to defend his country from illegal invasion. C) liberators. Lol.
      • mm911, on 07/15/2008, -4/+2Paramnesia: Thanks for the history lesson. That tin foil hat is very attractive on you.

        Petrodollar: Glad you're part of the community of backwards, violent, fundamentalist wackjob Americans that make up most of Digg's membership. Congrats.
      • petrodollar, on 07/15/2008, -5/+2"Glad you're part of the community of backwards, violent, fundamentalist wackjob Americans that make up most of Digg's membership."

        What are you talking about, *****? I support sterilizing and/or euthanizing all religious freaks, poors, and hillbillies. If all this kid did was kill some backwards ass afghans, he should be let go and allowed to continue doing "the lord's work." Why should my tax dollars be spent "liberating" that place? It's much more cost effective to let Afghans to kill each off.

        I don't understand these christian republican hicks who think it's good that we're over there protecting the Afghan people from the taliban. If these people had any idea what ordinary afghans believe and how they live their lives, they'd want them nuked. These are the same idiots who clamored about "Arab democracy" when we invaded Iraq in 2003 and then ***** their pants when the Palestinians elected Hamas in free and fair elections.
      • CryRightardCry, on 07/15/2008, -1/+7Wrong again, *****.
        It's not "God told us to" anymore than we are murdering Iraqis because "God told us to".
        You ignorant ***** rightards just assume that these aren't human being with human motivation.
        That's because rightards are incredibly ignorant and somehow think that warmongering like a terrorist doesn't make them terrorists.
        These are people just like us. Their warmongering extremists are just like our warmongering extremists.
        YOU are EXACTLY like the terrorists among them, pandering to ignorance and stupidity.

        Kudos.
    • datastorageguy, on 07/15/2008, -15/+9Too bad your logic fails. The United States didn't invade Afghanistan, we retaliated against the terrorists using Afghanistan as a base of operations. Al-Qaeda was sanctioned and protected by the government of Afghanistan and the people we fought against supported, planned, and even participated in the murder of thousands of innocent people.

      Get your head out of your ass.
      • Peko, on 07/15/2008, -0/+8You're only sort of half right. Afghanistan was indeed a base of operations for OBL and his flunkies. But don't forget that the US used all the nuance of a bull in a china shop following 9/11 in dealing with the situation. The US "asked" the afghani state executive to hand over OBL with a pink bow on his head or be regime changed. The same OBL et al who staunchly and heroically defended Afghanistan from the former Soviet Union. The same OBL that received resource support from the CIA. The very same OBL that is still at large despite the US's primary reason of being in Afghanistan in the first place.

        I think it's pretty damn obvious that the US could have used a tact where they used SpecOps/Ninjas/James Bonds and just went right after OBL. No massive campaign, just surgically sniped him out.

        Hold on a sec, you say - that would have been almost impossible! OBL is a cagey bastard! Well, let's just say it couldn't have gone worse than it has.

        But but but hold on a sec! Afghanistan was/is under taliban rule! They oppress women! They aren't democratic! The US is doing it for humanitarian reasons to make the world a better place! Yeah, I'd believe you on that one but I can't hear you, Zimbabwe and Darfur are calling me saying you're a hypocritical *****. Additionally, there are a bunch of voicemails, some from Uganda and East Timor. Saudi Arabia sent a postcard but it's obfuscated by big oil stains.

        I really think a little more diplomatical judo would have been a far more obvious solution. The pre-invasion Afghani executive were given no backpedal room or political options. For example - try this scenario on:

        Step 1 - the US pretty well tells the Afghani executive they are going in surgical/ninja style to get OBL no matter what. Any interference will be duly shock and awed into the dust. This is understandable, if undesirable for the afghani executive. The US demands a response to 9/11 and OBL is ostensibly involved at a very high level.

        Step 2 - The Afghani executive gets all pissy - "you can't just walk in our country and do ninja stuff! You bastards!!11!" but really, what can they do about it? what will they do about it? Not much. As long as they don't inhibit the US that much they don't get regime changed. Despite what you may have read - al queda is at best a loose network of politically like minded cells. And afghanistan is itself a loose network of local warlords without a consistent power structure and/or chain of command. I would think it's pretty damn reasonable to assume that a great deal of the warlords are mostly self interested. They're busy enough holding on to their own pile of rocks to consider risking their position to attack US Apaches with their cavalry.

        Step 3 - The US gets OBL, maybe. Or at least spends a lot less resources spending a lot more time actually chasing OBL down in whatever crazy mountainous hide and seek land. The US is not spending resources defeating the existing executive. The US is not spending resources occupying (or semi occupying) whatever land they can hold on to in Afghanistan. The US is not spending political capital getting other NATO countries to follow them in an increasingly untenable and divergent alliance.



    • Retsep, on 07/15/2008, -7/+12If you took up arms like this kid would you be suprised when you were captured and interrogated?

      If you want to say this kid was just fighting for his country, I think that's a strech, but for arguement's sake let's assume that's the case, it doesn't mean that A) he couldn't be killed doing that B) that he couldn't be captured as he was or C) that when he was captured that he wouldn't be interrogated.

      The reality is that this kid had grown up with the terrorists an buys into their nonsense. Now he's in jail where he belongs, he's lucky he's not dead.
      • TrevorPace, on 07/15/2008, -2/+8Obviously you know nothing about his case. There is evidence to suggest that he didn't even throw the grenade...that in fact it was a friendly-fire accident from the Americans. You're also acting as both judge and jury and deciding that he must be guilty because he is at Gitmo.

        Also no person has ever been charged with war crimes they committed as a child. Which he was.

    • IglooBurner, on 07/15/2008, -5/+7Its one thing to take up arms and die for your country, its another to cower afterward.
      He was fighting against the democracy and its ideas, only to hide under the foundations of it.
      • FelixDeluxe, on 07/15/2008, -1/+6"fighting against the democracy and its ideas"

        Please, go on...
  • SirDiggalot, on 07/15/2008, -12/+81For those that are thinking, "that's not so bad-- they're treating him well... not beating him or anything," you're missing the point. This is to show that Canada was showing no sympathy to Omar Khadr back in 2003, and those interrogators would not listen to his pleas to help him out of U.S. custody. Khadr was hoping that the Canadians had come to take him back to Canada to be tried-- which would have been the right thing to do.

    PM Harper: stop being a pansy and stand up to the U.S. for once. Get Khadr back to Canada to face a fair trial that adheres to proper human rights. Nobody-- no matter what their accused of-- should be locked up for 6 years and beaten without having a proper trial.
    • Cam_86, on 07/15/2008, -5/+13Yeah, but if you have the TOTAL context of this entire situation(not just around Omar, but the ENTIRE Kadr family) you would see this isnt going to have a major effect on most people. The Kadr family is blatantly open about their hatred for western culture, and how they knew full well Omar left Canada to, at best become a martyr, or at least ***** up as many coalition soldiers as possible.

      I dont deny he was being manipulated and was a child(which makes his imprisonment against the Geneva convention, as he was a child soldier) just that there are so many people in this country who dont care about what happens to him or his family. When you go on the public broadcaster and insult the ideology of your adoptive secular nation while collecting welfare you do a pretty good job of pissing off everyone within earshot.
      • SirDiggalot, on 07/15/2008, -2/+8Well, if this video has no effect on getting him to Canada, then I feel sorry for the state of humanity in Canada.

        And I say to you people who hate the Khadr family: if you really want justice done in this case-- then the only right way to deal with him is bringing him to Canada. He will be tried in Canada. He may never be tried if he stays in Gitmo.

        Either way, if you're a humanitarian or hate the guy-- the only right thing to do is bring him to Canada.
      • str3ama, on 07/15/2008, -1/+7Canada's problem is that they have an ultra conservative leader. Harper openly professed his support for Israel, and actually said that he would support Israel against Palestine. Canada is supposed to be a peacekeeping nation and not take sides. Harper's more interested in sucking up to Bush. The only thing is that Canada's never been a very aggressive country so fortunately they're not being sent out on any crazy wars - except for being deployed in Afghanistan for no real purpose other then to satiate Bush's request for troops to be stationed there so that he could move US troops into Iraq.
    • jabberwolf, on 07/15/2008, -3/+4You forget that only 10 minutes of the video was released by his lawyers. There was over 7 hours.

      Maybe there is a good reason, that his lawyers wanted only 10 minutes.

      10 minutes/7 hours
      A fraction of facts does not equal the truth.

      Stop helping with his propaganda.
      • SirDiggalot, on 07/15/2008, -0/+3Sure there's a propaganda element to this. But video or no video, Khadr should be brought to Canada to face an actual trial, which may not even happen in Guantanamo, based on the track record there. Do you not agree that he should face the consequences for his actions in Afghanistan and actually be convicted?

        The only right action is to bring him to Canada.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1So why won't the Administration release the remaining footage, given it's so beneficial to the U.S. case?
    • tweedius, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Just because noone in this thread is intellectually honest enough to tell the truth, this guy is locked up there for killing a US Soldier. He should have been killed on the battlefield.
      • SirDiggalot, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1And at present there is NO evidence against him regarding that incident; there is no proof he threw that grenade. That's part of the reason he won't go to trial in the U.S. and has been sitting in Gitmo rotting. How many times do I have to say this? If you want him tried, bring him to Canada where he'll probably be convicted of... something.
  • sonar1, on 07/15/2008, -28/+641 diggs and its on the front page.
  • HenvY, on 07/15/2008, -7/+33Why is he still facing a military tribunal after that supreme court ruling?
    • pintomp3, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5because we have no checks and balances.
    • jabberwolf, on 07/15/2008, -4/+5Because he is not American, he committed actions outside of his and USA country during time of War.

      He should have had a military tribunal as a POW long ago. That is the outrage, not that he was sent there.
    • tweedius, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1He killed a US Soldier, what kind of treatment should we really give him? Like I've said in a previous thread, he should have been shot dead on the battlefield.
  • ericjohnson0, on 07/15/2008, -28/+14Americans, Canadians- Evil!!! THESE are the guys who deserve some support and sympathy. HOW DARE we incarcerate these poor, misunderstood Freedom Fighters?

    http://thesaloon.net/blog/_archives/2007/5/24/2972 ...

    /End Sarcasm. Kill every Al Qaeda member/ terrorist type we can catch. Let Allah sort 'em out.
    • bclinton, on 07/15/2008, -11/+6Oh you've done it now!

      All the liberal fcktards on here will Digg you down for that statement. The fact if most Digg users were only about 8 when 911 happened so they really dont understand things....
      • ericjohnson0, on 07/15/2008, -2/+2LOL. Yes, Facts and Maturity are in short supply these days.
      • FelixDeluxe, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2The history of he world did not start (or restart) on sept 11 2001. Grow up.
      • Antimatter3009, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5Now let's examine why you would get dugg down:

        1) "Kill every Al Qaeda member/ terrorist type we can catch"
        2) Using liberal as an insult
        3) Adding the additional insult of "fcktard," which you left the u out of for no reason
        4) Implying that most Digg users are immature and, better yet, ignorant

        You have every right to think and say whatever you want, but why would you come to Digg just to insult everyone here? Do you just enjoy being an *****? If so, at least realize that's why you get buried, not just because you disagree.
    • swrostmore, on 07/15/2008, -1/+6In February 2008, the Pentagon accidentally released documents that revealed that although Khadr was present during the firefight, there was no other evidence that he had thrown the grenade. In fact, military officials had originally reported that another of the surviving militants had thrown the grenade just before being killed

      http://www.thestar.com/article/345838
    • directrix13, on 07/15/2008, -1/+3That sounds like Al Qaeda talk to me. Indiscriminate killing of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY people. You are a dumbass. Let the courts sort 'em out. That's what they are there for.
    • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Everyone deserves a trial. Even you.
  • alanr19, on 07/15/2008, -10/+71Imagine a 15 year old american kid being interrogated by Iranian officials in a military prison camp like that!!! In the US there would be outrage and queues around the block to enlist to fight them.

    Likewise this will do nothing but boost the numbers of bad guys as nutball clerics exploit this video for recruitment purposes. FFS this is a disaster
    • FungusAmungus, on 07/15/2008, -17/+6Are you suggesting that the interrogation techniques and our court system is somehow equated to that of Iran?

      Quit lying to yourself. At the end of the day, this was a Canadian kid that was strangely overseas at the age of 15. He is accused of murdering a man. I'm not saying everything is what it seems here, but Christ almighty what would you do if some kid threw a grenade on U.S. soil and killed a school teacher instead of a soldier? What about a Canadian kid?
      • swrostmore, on 07/15/2008, -1/+19In February 2008, the Pentagon accidentally released documents that revealed that although Khadr was present during the firefight, there was no other evidence that he had thrown the grenade. In fact, military officials had originally reported that another of the surviving militants had thrown the grenade just before being killed.

        http://www.thestar.com/article/345838
      • kooft, on 07/15/2008, -0/+16"..our court system..."

        Gitmo isn't 'our' court system. It's a US military loophole and yes, if the US military is torturing prisoners then they deserved to be compared to Iran.
      • SmokedL, on 07/15/2008, -0/+12Yup he is accused of murdering a man.
        Apparently it went something like this:
        A superpower illegally invaded the country he was in and he is alleged to have thrown a hand grenade at the invading forces killing one of them. Obviously a foul murder indeed.
        /sarcasm

        The irony of the US claiming this kid is a war criminal while the US actions is OK is just too much. I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or throw up.

        But let me guess, you figure the US is completely in the right because the country they invaded is "EVIL!". Just as all the countries that the US do not like are "EVIL!" That about right?
      • jabberwolf, on 07/15/2008, -5/+1smokedL

        "A superpower illegally invaded the country he was in and he is alleged to have thrown a hand grenade at the invading forces killing one of them. Obviously a foul murder indeed."

        Actually it was UN endorsed. He was NOT abiding by the Geneva conventions when fighting. He was taken as a POW. Do you think all POWs are just released? They usually are when the force they fighting for declares a peace treaty. Until then, they are kept as a POW. But the force he was fighting for has continued to declare war on the west.

        So you suggest we send him off with chocolates and flowers?
      • kooft, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2As an American I obviously don't support this kid attacking US troops. Having said that, please qualify these statements with proof:

        "He was NOT abiding by the Geneva conventions when fighting."
        "He was taken as a POW."

        What actions of his were in violation of the Geneva convention? As a POW he would be afforded certain rights, please post some links indicating his rights were observed and upheld.


        "So you suggest we send him off with chocolates and flowers?"

        Nope. The only suggestion is that the US live up to the agreements it's a part to. The US can't complain about Geneva violations if it is itself in violation of the same.
    • Brownds, on 07/15/2008, -11/+1115 year old American kids don't strap bombs to themselves to blow up as many people as they can...They shoot up schools & Malls! never mind.
      • FungusAmungus, on 07/15/2008, -8/+2Yeah, and no one complains when we put that 15 year old bastard behind bars for life. Somehow it's ok to judge our own young as being responsible for their actions, but somehow if it's somehow religiously motivated it makes it justifiable, even if you have been raised in a Western society and purposely go to kill and maim.
      • bluechips23, on 07/15/2008, -5/+2415 year old American kids don't strap bombs to blow people up, because no one invades their country, kills their father or rapes their mom.

        Terrorists are made because of circumstances. No one is born as a terrorist.
      • Brownds, on 07/15/2008, -8/+5@bluechips23
        "15 year old American kids don't strap bombs to blow people up, because no one invades their country, kills their father or rapes their mom."

        What? Most "terrorist" kids are recruited by family members i.e. fathers, uncles’ and brothers. and are taught to hate at vary young ages as a matter of fact there is a Palestinian kids TV show with guy dressed up like some dirty ass Mickey Mouse that promotes jihad to children and to drink all their milk lol. Get educated before you post ignorant drivel.

        http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTI ...

      • datastorageguy, on 07/15/2008, -3/+1@bluechip

        So where did the 9/11 terrorists, or any other terrorist come from, prior to the United States invading Iraq and killing Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan?
      • alanr19, on 07/15/2008, -1/+6@bluechips23
        You said: "15 year old American kids don't strap bombs to themselves to blow up as many people as they can..."

        He looks in pretty good shape for someone who blew himself up.


        You stupid *****.
    • doctechnical, on 07/15/2008, -13/+12I don't have to imagine Al Qaeda cutting the heads off helpless Americans, the video of it is on the internet.

      By the Geneva conventions we could take every one of these ***** out of their nice cozy prison cells and put a bullet through their head.

      Which sounds like a good idea to me.
      • pintomp3, on 07/15/2008, -2/+8yes, let's all behave terrorists.
      • FelixDeluxe, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5You don't know what the Geneva Convention is, do you?
      • DigDugDigger, on 07/15/2008, -1/+6Al Qaeda != Iran, Mr. McCain.
      • alanr19, on 07/15/2008, -0/+4@doctechnical

        It wasnt al qaeda in that video, it was a 15 year old kid.
      • doctechnical, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1@FelixDeluxe: Evidently I know more about the Geneva Conventions than you do They are very specific about who gets POW status and who doesn't. This kid wasn't wearing a uniform that could identified from a distance, and he wasn't carrying arms openly, so there's just two disqualifications right there.. He's a non-uniformed combatant, and therefor by the GC he's bullet-bait.
      • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1You suck.
    • datastorageguy, on 07/15/2008, -4/+5Imagine women and children being burned to death. Imagine our prisoners of war being tortured and beheaded. Imagine journalists being beheaded on video for all the world to see.
      • Brownds, on 07/15/2008, -3/+1Imagine? It is happening.
      • FelixDeluxe, on 07/15/2008, -2/+3Imagine Americans behaving that way. Not cool.
      • alanr19, on 07/15/2008, -2/+1@datastorageguy

        So this 15 year-old kid did all that? Wow you are one stupid *****.
      • datastorageguy, on 07/15/2008, -3/+1@dumb ***** above me

        I am referring to the fact that terrorists can get away with beheading people, torturing people, not abiding by the geneva convention, etc. and there is no uproar from liberal idiots like yourself.
      • alanr19, on 07/15/2008, -1/+3@datastorageguy

        We have laws. We can't just discard them whenever we feel the urge. We hold ourselves to the same standards of justice as those that attack us. That's what makes us better than them. Laws are what keep our society going. Germany once tore up the law book to enable them to pursue a goal and ...well the rest is history. America did once too during WWII and rounded up all people of Japanese descent and imprisoned them. Its been a national embarrassment ever since.

        It seems that your understanding of how civilization functions has been somewhat warped by playing too many World of Warcraft type games. When you get older you'll begin to see the difference between video games and real life. Until then, good luck.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1It wouldn't be difficult, going back to 2002, for the Bush Administration to call for a summit of Geneva Convention signatories and create a category for non-enemy combatants that would provide an unambiguous legal basis for what you claim. It didn't.
    • logdesigner, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2What a moron. This kid threw a grenade that killed a U.S Special Forces soldier and blinded another. His damn family are financiers for terrorists. Dunk the ***** head under water until he at least names some banks.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Know a lot of 16 year olds that can tell you about their parents' finances do you.

        Of course the same information could come out through the legal process, but why does that matter?
      • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1If U.S. soldiers were invading my country, I'd throw a grenade in their face too.
      • logdesigner, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1We invaded Canada?
  • sonar1, on 07/15/2008, -18/+7poor kid. he should be treated like a prisoner of war not a terrorist.
    • Brownds, on 07/15/2008, -4/+3Umm no.
    • doctechnical, on 07/15/2008, -3/+5Was he wearing a uniform? Carrying his arms openly? No? Guess what - not a POW. The Geneva Conventions make some very clear distinctions here between a soldier and an non-uniformed combatant. The former gets certain courtesies like POW status. The latter gets a bullet in the head.
      • sonar1, on 07/15/2008, -3/+1i see,thanx
      • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1...and the U.S. soldiers that are invading other people's countries get a grenade in the face. It all balances out in the end.
  • PinkChicken, on 07/15/2008, -12/+5Why would Canada send a Canadian to Guantanamo to be interrogated by a Canadian? We need our own Room 101.
  • scheibs14, on 07/15/2008, -11/+6No waterboard, no digg
  • thedogfatherx, on 07/15/2008, -25/+18Here come the digg people calling America and Canada evil. Oh those poor poor martyrs.

    Pussies.
  • joerod, on 07/15/2008, -8/+14only 15 what a shame, you cant expect more then this kid to grow up hating western society.
    • doctechnical, on 07/15/2008, -10/+10True, after the interrogations he should be shot so we don't need to worry about him any more.
      • pintomp3, on 07/15/2008, -2/+8no need for trials or anything. let's just randomly start killing people. that's not terrorism or anything.
    • tweedius, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1He killed a US soldier and blinded another...
  • ericjohnson0, on 07/15/2008, -18/+2Any chance we could get something with 150+ DIGGS on the frontpage?

    http://digg.com/political_opinion/Should_Congress_ ...
  • peaceofwar, on 07/15/2008, -12/+5This is B/S. They release one video that doesn't have anything bad in it. No yelling no hitting B/S
  • Wujian01, on 07/15/2008, -12/+7Very sad to see this! What in the world has happened?
    • vexingmodstwo, on 07/15/2008, -4/+8The kid traveled to Afghanistan to fight against the US... that's what happened.
      • bclinton, on 07/15/2008, -5/+6He wont believe you. He believes the kid was there on vacation and is wrongly being accused of things. He thought the Al Queda camp was a water park or at least thats what the AlJazzeri tourist broker told him....
      • FungusAmungus, on 07/15/2008, -5/+4They lured him there with promises of candy and funny stories.
  • garoo, on 07/15/2008, -10/+2Ahhhh America. Truly the land of the free.
  • ponyboy96, on 07/15/2008, -31/+51First off, the kid was captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan after a fire fight with US and NATO forces (of which Canada is involved). He killed a US Soldier and was wounded in the process. POW hell. That kid took up arms against his own countrymen. He is a traitor plain and simple.

    All you people on here can say, "awww poor kid." But I can tell you one thing, give this guy a knife and he will probably kill you with it without thinking twice about it. I have no sympathy for him, he should be swinging from a rope.

    I will say though, as a citizen of Canada he should be tried by a Canadian court for treason and not siting in Gitmo.

    • FungusAmungus, on 07/15/2008, -14/+13Thank you for saying what needed to be said.
    • stevensj2, on 07/15/2008, -13/+9US Soldiers take an oath that they will agree to take up arms against _their_ countrymen if ordered to do so.

      By your logic, that would make them traitors. Seems a bit erroneous.

      Perhaps you would feel different if you were say, a Korean citizen of Colombian heritage, and whilst visiting Colombia, Korea initiated a fire fight on Colombian soil.

      Would protecting your homeland make you a traitor?
      • nullzero, on 07/15/2008, -3/+1Sorry but i'm afraid you're wrong. My oath stated I would fight against enemies of the constitution both foreign and domestic. So I ask you, are you my countryman if you're opposed to the constitution? I submit you no longer are.

        Now as to who's the biggest enemy of the constitution right now I'd have to say most of congress. Which is pretty much the definition of irony. Apparently our Judges aren't too keen on it either these days 6-5 decision against strip searches of 13 year olds for possession of a legal substance...
      • toshibu, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3@nullzeronullzero: It's not a soldier's job to decide who is a citizen or not. Submit what you want, you're not qualified.
    • toshibu, on 07/15/2008, -6/+18"He killed a US Soldier"
      Prove it.
      • xoxuxox, on 07/15/2008, -1/+8"The military commander’s official report the day after the raid originally said the assailant who threw the grenade was killed, which would rule out Khadr as the suspect. The report was revised months later, under the same date, to say a U.S. fighter had only “engaged” the assailant, according to Kuebler, who said the later version was presented to him by prosecutors as an “updated” document."
        http://www.thestar.com/article/345838
        Who cares about the present when we can so easily change the past?
      • theJeebus, on 07/15/2008, -4/+3It doesn't matter if he did or not. He showed intent by being on the battlefield.
      • toshibu, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3@theJeebus: I suppose he showed intent by being born in Afghanistan too, right?
    • DLRULZ, on 07/15/2008, -4/+23First of all he is accused of killing a US soldier, that doesn't mean that he necessarily did it. But i guess with the Military tribunals the due process is not needed, and the guilty verdict is handed out when you get captured or arrested.
    • xavier2, on 07/15/2008, -8/+5the kid was captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan after a fire fight with US and NATO forces

      who cares if he killed a solider or not, he was captured in Afghan fighting with the enemy. You get what you deserve.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+36 years disappeared and tortured?
    • SmokedL, on 07/15/2008, -4/+8Here's the situation with the nationalities reversed.

      Afghanistan invades the US.
      A boy from Afghanistan that is in the US at the time figures this is not right and joins the resistance. He allegedly managed to kill one soldier.
      The invading forces capture the boy and keep him locked up and almost certainly use "enhanced interrogation" on him for 6 years.
      The invading forces claims he is a war criminal for fighting back against an invasion.

      How would you feel about that situation?
      • vexingmodstwo, on 07/15/2008, -3/+3The exact same way I feel now. If he traveled on his own and wasn't part of the military, he's a dumbass.
    • allan17, on 07/15/2008, -7/+9He's a traitor, guility of high treason.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason#Canada

      Have a look at 1, C.

      "assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are."
      • kingcam, on 07/15/2008, -2/+4The point isn't whether or not he is guilty; the point is that he is being denied legal rights. Because of the sad state of his confinement the argument goes that, as we have done in the past, Canada should repatriate him to face charges in Canada. This will not happen because both the US, and the right wing of the Canadian government which has become entrenched in foreign affairs, both know that there is not a shred of actual evidence to convict Khadr of murder. Furthermore Khadr would have to be tried as a minor because he was 15 at the time. The revenge motivated zealots in the US Army legal department will never allow this.
      • sulthernao, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5Then why not try and convict him. You can't just suspend due process.
      • toshibu, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Thanks for that. But the Criminal Code doesn't define treason for minors...
    • IglooBurner, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1He should read about Nathan Hale and see learn how its done.
    • thesonofdarwin, on 07/15/2008, -4/+9al·leg·ed·ly [uh-lej-id-lee]

    • annarborhawk, on 07/15/2008, -6/+7Dude killed a soldier as a terrorist trainee. End of story. I'll save my outrage for millions of more deserving cases.
      • TrevorBradley, on 07/15/2008, -2/+4Nobody saw him throw the grenade and there was another Talaban soldier in the same area, which the official reports deny but some US soldiers corroborate.

        The whole story is messed up to hell, but the truth remains, nobody saw this kid throw the grenade.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4So Guantanamo is about torture then, and not incarceration?
    • maisteri, on 07/15/2008, -1/+6Now, they only need proof. He is being interrogated because they have none.
      • toshibu, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3So if you don't have proof, torture till confession? Perhaps we should burn him at the stake too, if he is innocent he'll die, if not it proves he was guilty!
    • writie, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1"I will say though, as a citizen of Canada he should be tried by a Canadian court for treason and not siting in Gitmo."

      I think that is the point that should be made.
  • peilo, on 07/15/2008, -17/+25Regardless of age, he was caught during a gun battle with US forces at a suspected al-Qaeda camp in Afghanistan. He is obviously old enough to throw a grenade in his culture, he is old enough to deal with the punishment. I'm glad we don't have kids tossing around grenades like footballs in the US, but the waste of time part was there was no abuse in the video, though it does look staged :(
    • toshibu, on 07/15/2008, -6/+6"He is obviously old enough to throw a grenade"
      Prove that he threw the grenade, then say that.
    • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -2/+10"to deal with the punishment"

      You mean the torturing? Dude where do you come from? Civilized countries gave up torturing.

      If someone would have told me 10 years ago that the US will build a Gulag in Kuba and a bunch of secret prisons everywhere and start to torture random people I would have seriously questioned their sanity.
    • ziggygazzo, on 07/15/2008, -2/+6Punishment??? He hasn't been convicted of any crime. He has been held for years without trial. Punishment should be meted out when you have been found guilty of a crime. I have zero sympathy for terrorists or al-Qaeda but I also have zero tolerance for Bush's corrupt and illegal prison in Cuba. Convict of GTFO.
    • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3Punishment -- what was the sentence?
    • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1"His culture" is supposed to be one that publicly tries an individual before punishing them. It is also supposed to be a culture that does not take part in torture. The moment that changes, our "culture" is no longer worth protecting.
  • bumcheekcity, on 07/15/2008, -14/+24This story is utterly horrific, and the worst part is that nobody reading it will be suprised. It is imperative that we in the west retain our sense of human decency, and we must hold ourselves up to higher standards than we hold others to. It disgusts me that I'm reading this, and it disgusts me that my country (I live in the UK) is doing exactly the same damn thing too.

    It's a pity that we are no longer able to stand up proud and claim at least to be the moral and civilised force against evil and destruction, and insist instead on blurring the line further between right and wrong.
    • vexingmodstwo, on 07/15/2008, -9/+5The kid is lucky to be alive.
    • jabberwolf, on 07/15/2008, -5/+3Would you like to give him milk and cookies with his grenades?
      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1I'd like to give him a lawful sentence.
    • Optiks, on 07/15/2008, -0/+3It's easy to attempt to claim the moral high ground when you're dealing with an opponent who shares, or at least believes they share the same ideals as you.

      The problem, however, lies in the fact that extremist Islamic radicals are on a completely different ethical and moral plane than you or I.

      Example: I could never conceive of sending my 7-year daughter into a crowded market with a bomb strapped to her chest in order to kill as many people as possible. Then, after all the rescue and aid workers responded, sending my brother in with another bomb to clean up any stragglers.

      I don't think you would either.

      When you have to fight an enemy willing to do something like that, your sense of ethics have to be put aside from time to time, unfortunately. They will obviously do anything to win. So too, must you.

      We're in a dogfight, and to paraphrase the age-old lesson, we'll probably get some fleas. But the only way to learn the winner is to see who's left standing at the end.

      Maybe this kid should've thought of all that before he bought a one-way ticket to an Al-Qaeda terror training camp, and took up arms against his own countrymen.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2"Maybe this kid should've thought of all that ..."

        Dumb, just dumb.

      • Optiks, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2No?

        Don't you look before you leap?

        Admittedly, I don't know the full, exact details of how this kid got to Afghanistan, but I'm willing to bet it didn't happen accidentally. He didn't just get hit over the head and wake up in a world where women wear burqas, are executed on a whim, and Sharia law reigns supreme; only then to begin combat training on a 'what the hell, I've got nothing better to do today.'

        If you believe for a second he was over there without a purpose, then that rabbit hole you're in must be deep, indeed.
    • tweedius, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1You know, I knew I would find post like this on digg when I saw this on the news today. HE KILLED A US SOLDIER AND BLINDED ANOTHER. I also notice everyone that is telling the truth is getting burried. What a lovely website this is sometimes.
  • rsmiff, on 07/15/2008, -19/+24He was captured in an al-Qaeda camp, battling NATO and US forces. I'm sure he had full consideration for the human rights of the people he blew up with that grenade.
    • Bamont, on 07/15/2008, -5/+7Your logic and complete rationality of the situation leads me to believe that you do not belong on Digg.
      • str3ama, on 07/15/2008, -2/+4The US military found him innocent, hence why he's now Free. If he wasn't innocent and they still suspected he was fighting against them - he would still be in Guantanamo. The very fact that he's free shows they had no evidence and did not believe him to be a threat or involved, they messed up and now they're quite scared that a person who can attest to the atrocities being done in the name of so-called "Freedom".
    • Midtowner, on 07/15/2008, -6/+3Two people dugg you down??? WTF?

      You were merely stating the obvious -- the video proof is on the internet -- Al Qaeda fighters have no trouble torturing and beheading people. This 15 year old kid savagely murdered a United States soldier who was in a foreign country trying to bring peace and stability.

      This kid should have been executed on the spot.

      I do have to question why we need to keep people in Guantanamo for as long as we are. What useful information does anyone expect a 15 year old brainwashed kid to be able to provide? Ship him back to Canada so they can institute proceedings to have this kid put away for life.
      • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -0/+3So if I take a plane tomorrow from Switzerland to the US and start shooting up your neighbourhood in order to bring peace and stability, can I torture you too when you attack me?
      • MattBrown, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1There is video proof that he was captured in an al-Qaeda camp, battling NATO forces? I don't think so. If that can be shown in court, then he should be punished. It should be pretty easy to prove if there is any accountability anymore.

        When our forces kill opposing forces (even terrorists) in a firefight, are they "savagely murdering" them? I'm not as sure as you seem to be.
    • toshibu, on 07/15/2008, -1/+9You have no proof he threw any grenade until you try him.
      • Midtowner, on 07/15/2008, -5/+1When you're captured on a battlefield in Afghanistan on the other side of the battle lines, you aren't entitled to be "innocent until proven guilty."

        There's an old legal rule used in torts cases: Res Ipsa Loquitur -- the fact that the kid was arrested in the situation he was in is essentially proof of the crime. He was at worst the person who threw thew grenade, at best, a coconspirator. Either way, he deserves to be on the end of a rope.
    • BabyWookie, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2I bet that you had no problems with it, when kids like him were blowing up Soviet soldiers in the 80's.
      • Midtowner, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1If I was a Soviet, I would have had a problem.

        Perhaps you do not recall the fact that the explosives those Afghans used against the Soviets were made in the good 'ol US of A?

        Perhaps you forget that the Afghanistan conflict may very well have spared the world from a U.S. v. U.S.S.R. WWIII?

        The fact is this kid's a citizen of Canada who was overseas fighting against soldiers who were deployed alongside his fellow countrymen. In the U.S., he'd be subject to the death penalty for that whether or not he killed anyone.
      • BabyWookie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1@Midtowner:
        I don't know if the Soviet Intervention in the Afghan civil war spared any thing, but it sure did a number on the Afghan people and creating a whole bunch of radical, Islamic extremists.

        The little known fact of the matter is that, before the Soviet Invasion, the Afghan government was asking for a Soviet military intervention in their civil war for years. Brezhnev's government was extremely apprehensive about it, but the US and its allies did every thing to provoke such intervention, simply because they wanted to give the Soviets their own “Vietnam experience”.

        Also, how can a person who never took any kind of oath or had a security clearance, be charged with treason and be subject to a death penalty?


  • ericjohnson0, on 07/15/2008, -10/+3Maybe he should have been lucky enough to cash in on his 72 virgins after running into one of these?

    http://thesaloon.net/blog/_archives/2008/6/18/3750 ...
    • anonymous1986, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5Stop spamming u knob
      • ericjohnson0, on 07/15/2008, -6/+1I'm just sharing my opinion the same as anyone else.
      • anonymous1986, on 07/15/2008, -0/+4You've been posting comments moaning about digging a story with 150 diggs not being on the front page and the "thesaloon" link at least twice. That's spamming not sharing ur opinion.
  • lazaruswws, on 07/15/2008, -20/+14We should throw Grenades at him.
  • GhandicapXRS, on 07/15/2008, -18/+25Well if you read the back story, he may or may not have directly killed anyone, but there's no question he was up to no good. There's pictures of him MAKING bombs at an AL Qaeda camp.

    Just because he was young and "canadian" doesn't mean jack *****...

    Bury me all you want...
    • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -2/+2he is still human
      • Jewbacca311, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2Hey that's right!!! You know who else was human? Hitler...
      • bobGratton, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1You say that as if you don't believe he deserves what hes getting. He's LUCKY those marines didn't shoot him on the spot, the prick got off easy if you ask me.

        Die in a fire you bleeding heart *****....
    • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -1/+2The U.S. military makes bombs all the time. Lots of them. And they use them. On people.
  • badboynextdoor, on 07/15/2008, -13/+7now we know where the floodings comes from, he's been crying a river...
  • jdelsman, on 07/15/2008, -13/+6This boy should have been charged immediately if there was evidence of him being involved in such action. Being questioned in a remote facility in The Middle of Nowhere, Cuba for years and years is not acceptable. I can't wait to get my law degree so I can sue the pants off the US government for these travesties.
    • onthecake, on 07/15/2008, -2/+2What the world needs... another ambulance chaser
      • petrodollar, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1Are you kidding? There's no money to be made handling these cases. The client has no money, and they're not suing for money damages. The lawyers who are doing it are mostly big law firm partners who already made millions representing big corporations and are just looking for something interesting to occupy their time.

        Please try to be less of a dumb piece of ***** in your next post. tyia.
    • datastorageguy, on 07/15/2008, -2/+3What a complete moron you are. I am sure the ACLU will welcome you with open arms so you can defend pedophiles and terrorists.
    • petrodollar, on 07/15/2008, -2/+3"I can't wait to get my law degree so I can sue the pants off the US government for these travesties."

      You sound like an idiot.
    • rthakidn, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2But it's okay to be in the middle of nowhere like Afghanistan killing Americans. Petrodollar is wrong, you don't sound like an idiot, your are.
    • ShisouKen, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2lol moron...
    • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1First I would sue the torture hungry Digg rednecks.
  • realthinker, on 07/15/2008, -18/+13This crybaby made a stupid decision to listen to the cowardly mullahs feeding him religious hatred, and is now suffering the consequences. He is not a Canadian. Just because he happened to be born in a particular spot on the earth gives him no special status, nor does he have the right to run snivelling for help to the government of a country/life style he is bent on destroying. If he hadn`t been caught, he would probably still be throwing grenades, or preferably, blowing his sorry ass up in a market somewhere. Take off your blinders. All the yapping by pathetic civil righters and morally challenged lawyers does not alter the fact that this kid was adult enough to make a bad life`s choice. Rot in Cuba *****, locked up like the street dog you are.
    • toshibu, on 07/15/2008, -3/+5He is Canadian, whether you like it or not.
      • DanPlainview, on 07/15/2008, -2/+3He gave that ***** up the second he went to Afghanistan and started fighting Americans. Wrong decision. Now it isn't up to you to decide if he is Canadian or not, it's up to the US government what he is and what he is not.
      • Meany123, on 07/16/2008, -0/+0Fine. If he's Canadian then we should try him for treason.

        I don't think we've charged anyone for treason in a long time, and the punishment I believe is death by hanging. Seriously. Blow the dust off that legislation and lets get on with it. Get out the noose.
      • Meany123, on 07/16/2008, -0/+0I retract my comment. According to Wikipedia, the criminal code has been updated. The punishment for high treason is no longer hanging. How unfortunate. Put away the noose.

        However, it's still life in prison. I'd prefer the US keeps him in their prison than in ours, becuase you never know what kind of jackass idiot parole board in Canada will let him out for good behavior in a few weeks. Afterall, they just let out an Air India bomber last week, and he killed over 300 people. This kid only killed one. He could be out of jail by Haloween!

        "Americans, do us a favour and just keep him in Cuba. Throw away the key. Thanks, we owe you one."
        Signed,
        Canada.
    • realthinker, on 07/15/2008, -0/+3He is a member of the human race, here for a short time, like the rest of us. He is also a sociopath and a fool. Being born in Canada gives him no special status when he tries to destroy life in the name of some deluded goatherder. As a Canadian, I am embarrassed that so many of my so-called countrymen are glossing over the fact that this guy is nothing but a common danger to society - ANY SOCIETY, PERIOD!
      • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1danger to your society maybe. There are other societies too.
      • realthinker, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0Sure. Go live in Zimbabwe. Uncivilized people can always find some rock to hide under.
    • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1He is Canadian. If the U.S. military doesn't want to recognise international law and embrace common human decency, then so be it. However they then shouldn't be surprised when they find grenades blowing up in their face while invading other countries.
  • H3000, on 07/15/2008, -19/+17Poor kid. And all he did was throw a grenade and kill someone. They should release him immediately to the family of the dead US soldier.
    • maisteri, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2Do we have proof?
    • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1And all the U.S. soldier did was invade someone else's country. If a U.S. soldier invaded my country, I'd throw a grenade in their face too.
      • H3000, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1Whew! Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Need a hug? Peace.
  • Cadenzah, on 07/15/2008, -9/+24"In the early spring of 2003, Khadr was told "Your life is in my hands" by a military interrogator, who spat on him, tore out some of his hair and threatened to send him to a country that would torture him more thoroughly, making specific reference to an Egyptian Askri raqm tisa ("Soldier Number Nine") who enjoyed raping prisoners. A few weeks later, an interrogator giving his name as Izmarai spoke to Khadr in Pashto, threatening to send him to a "new prison" at Bagram Airbase where "they like small boys".
    from wikipedia
    • vexingmodstwo, on 07/15/2008, -7/+3Point?
    • ponyboy96, on 07/15/2008, -4/+1Give me a break. I've seen worse "torture" done to fraternity pledges.
      • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Fraternity pledges have actually been tortured to death on numerous occations. Not a very good example.
    • chudson2, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Wow thats quite the source you have there in Wikipedia. If its on Wikipedia than it has to be true.
    • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Follow the citations on Wikipedia and what do you find.

      http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/1112833 ...
    • tweedius, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1To quote all the people who don't want to believe that he killed a US Soldier and blinded another...."Do we have any proof of what you're saying is true?"
    • D3ADBOLT, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1They could cut his head off for not excepting Christianity.
  • LightBender, on 07/15/2008, -14/+8The only way to make this situation better is to have compassion.

    Send him to Allah as soon as possible.

  • swrostmore, on 07/15/2008, -7/+26"A CIA analyst warned the Bush administration in 2002 that up to a third of the detainees at Guantanamo Bay may have been imprisoned by mistake, but White House officials ignored the finding and insisted that all were 'enemy combatants' subject to indefinite incarceration."
    "[A] top aide to Vice President Cheney shrugged off the report and squashed proposals for a quick review of the detainees' cases . . .'There will be no review,' the book (The Dark Side, Jane Meyer) quotes Cheney staff director David Addington as saying. 'The president has determined that they are ALL enemy combatants. We are not going to revisit it.'"
    [T]he [CIA] analyst estimated that a full third of the camp's detainees were there by mistake. When told of those findings, the top military commander at Guantanamo at the time, Major Gen. Michael Dunlavey, not only agreed with the assessment but suggested that an even higher percentage of detentions -- up to half -- were in error. Later, an academic study by Seton Hall University Law School concluded that 55 percent of detainees had never engaged in hostile acts against the United States, and only 8 percent had any association with al-Qaeda."
    • swrostmore, on 07/15/2008, -0/+14Related to this issue, there are significant doubts about Khadr's guilt.

      "The military commander’s official report the day after the raid originally said the assailant who threw the grenade was killed, which would rule out Khadr as the suspect.

      The report was revised months later, under the same date, to say a U.S. fighter had only “engaged” the assailant, according to [Khadr's lawyer Navy Lt. Cmdr. William Kuebler], who said the later version was presented to him by prosecutors as an “updated” document. "

    • jabberwolf, on 07/15/2008, -4/+1Studies are great but only if they have sources.
      And sources that point that other studies that have no sources... arent much good.
    • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5'The president has determined that they are ALL enemy combatants. We are not going to revisit it.'

      Reminds me of a quote by Beria the chief of the Soviet security and secret police apparatus:

      " As a basic principle everyone that we detain is guilty"
  • jayakamonty, on 07/15/2008, -5/+9A good accompanying documentary with is 'A Taxi To The Dark Side'.
  • str3ama, on 07/15/2008, -8/+22You can tell a lot about a country's integrity by how it treats not only the lowest members of its society, but how it treats its prisoners, let alone prisoners of war. To me torture can never be rationalized, it's a disgusting thing what they did to this kid and what's worse is that Canada's conservative (and pro War) government is actually trying to avoid any fault and keeps suggesting they had little to do with his interrogation, when in actuality they allowed America to not only take custody over him, but allowed the torture of one of their own citizens.
  • Perfectsound, on 07/15/2008, -10/+5Where's Jake Bauer when you need him?
    • pintomp3, on 07/15/2008, -0/+6in make believe land, where torturing people gets the truth and fair trials aren't need to establish guilt or innocence.
    • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2I really don't think this is the right place to make stupid jokes
  • TubeDigger, on 07/15/2008, -11/+13That Canadian who interviewed Omar was a poor example of how Canadians should behave toward their own countymen/children/hostages. At least these trials will bring to light American practices ON RECCORD! and thats very important for future trials. I am truely sorry for the way Canada is behaving on the international level.
    • rthakidn, on 07/15/2008, -3/+4What are you suggesting? That sleep deprivation is inhumane? Everything with people like you is inhumane, yet you fail to see the actions which brought this kid to Gitmo, namely taking up arms against his countrymen (and Americans) and killing one of them. You think his age should be taken into consideration? It probably was, and it's the only reason his body isn't the perminant residence for a 7.62mm or .223. If you don't have the stomach to deal with people that would wish you dead than get out of the way. Death has no age limit. ON RECCORD. KMA
      • ShisouKen, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Kudos.
      • TubeDigger, on 07/15/2008, -1/+4Everything with people like you is humane, until it happens to you. Then your the first to cry about how sandy your vag is and that its the winds fault for blowing it up your skirt. How do you treat a child? Do you put him in care of an abusive babysitter? sounds like it. Sounds like you'd be the guy who interviewed young Omar. We have laws in Canada he is Canadian he should be tried here not sent to a gulag. But the information we get out from this trial will shed more light on INHUMANE (if any) actions on either side ON RECORD. You cant stop that with a 7.62mm. If nothing was wrong with his treatment then that too will be known too. The only thing that changed after 9/11 is people like you, the world is still the same and doing this correctly still applies.
  • RunawayElf, on 07/15/2008, -11/+2Video loading slow. Mirror?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
    • DD00, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Let me guess. Rick Roll? Welcome to 3 years ago you unoriginal *****.
    • ShisouKen, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Son of a bitch!

      ARGH >__
  • DLRULZ, on 07/15/2008, -5/+8The kid is obviously distraught.
  • sb66, on 07/15/2008, -12/+15I'm Canadian and don't have much sympathy for this guy. He knowingly took up arms in Afghanistan, killing an american soldier while fighting in the name of islamic fundamentalism. Now its all like "Wah wah, I'm being treated badly." Maybe he should have though of the consequences before taking up arms. You can bet he would have killed a canadian soldier as easily as he did americans.
    In fact our troops are dying right now in afghanistan fighting this kids friends.

    I don't think he should be treated like a terrorist though; since he did kill a soldier on the battlefield and not civilians. But he made his bed...now he has to sleep in it.
    • DanPlainview, on 07/15/2008, -2/+0***** 'eh.
    • 99butcher99, on 07/15/2008, -3/+5he is 15. Think back.... Did you make and really poor decisions at 15?
      • sb66, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Dumb decisions at 15 are like smoking weed and going to class, or not using birth control. Not traveling to the other side of the world, joining an army of religious fundamentalists and killing people.
    • Eskapismus, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1It almost sounds as if the US were forced to go to Afghanistan.
    • NEWNHLISLAME, on 07/15/2008, -2/+1Hes was 15 for ***** sakes!
    • RogueMountie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Excuse me, but it was the American and Canadian soldiers who ultimately "decided to take up arms" in Afghanistan. Maybe THEY should have considered the consequences of that action.
  • mrzack, on 07/15/2008, -10/+39/11 - INSIDE JOB
  • asdfva, on 07/15/2008, -11/+19He was just a child.

    A vessel for the misguided upbringings of his family. People want to blame the gun, and not the person holding it. Most of the comments on this page add to my fear of my own government, and my diminishing faith in humanity. It's like some of you are on a witch hunt, and have no interest in finding the guilty, but rather just want to see a human being burnt at the stake. I am losing my faith and I am feeling very confined in a world that could be so great, but refuses to do great things.
    • ShisouKen, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2Uh NO....

      If he is guilty of what he is accused of then string him up.

      If he is NOT guilty, then we must find out exactly WHY he was in that "al-Qaeda" camp and what connection he has to them.

      Some of you are reading 15/16 year old and are letting your judgement be swayed. Get a grip.
  • trunks333, on 07/15/2008, -9/+9wheres the ***** meat sandwich?
  • reisrocks, on 07/15/2008, -2/+5Hey lets make a Comedy movie about guys getting put into Guantanamo bay to defuse the tension.... oh wait.. it's been done.
  • Paramnesia, on 07/15/2008, -10/+16If only you knew some history, you would know that the Taliban (and bin laden) were funded and trained by the CIA.
    That the Taliban were in the US on business just 1 year before the attack, when they refused to allow an oil pipeline to cross their country. Guess what happened after the 'liberation'? Signed. Did you know the Afghani president used to work for Haliberrton?
    As for Bin laden, the FBI has confirmed that he is not wanted by them as they have nothing to link him to the 911 attacks.
    Fact is, you dont know ***** about why you are even there and all of that is irrelevant anyway.
    Fact is the boy, which was actually 14, was sharing in the common spirit of resistance to foreign occupation.
    I'll get my head out of my ass the day you get your head into a book.
    • czeiszperger, on 07/15/2008, -2/+2"As for Bin laden, the FBI has confirmed that he is not wanted by them as they have nothing to link him to the 911 attacks."

      you are a moron

      http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.h ...
      • Infinite84, on 07/15/2008, -0/+3"Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world"

        9/11 not specifically mentioned. I thought he did it? Who's the moron?
    • NEWNHLISLAME, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2It doesn't say 911 attacks on that list. just some Other bombings of embassy's
      • ad33lshahid, on 07/15/2008, -0/+2Yup, FBI has never linked bin laden to 9/11 attacks.

        http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html
        FBI says, “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”

        Osama bin Laden’s role in the events of September 11, 2001 is not mentioned on the FBI’s “Ten Most Wanted” poster.
        On June 5, 2006, author Ed Haas contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation headquarters to ask why, while claiming that bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 1998 bombings of US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, the poster does not indicate that he is wanted in connection with the events of 9/11.
        Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI responded, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Osama bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.” Tomb continued, “Bin Laden has not been formally charged in connection to 9/11.” Asked to explain the process, Tomb responded, “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.”
    • grantmoore3d, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Just because something is in a book, doesn't mean it's true.
    • passdavid, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0Please reference your books and origins of facts. He was 14 when every major news source (NY Times, etc.) claims otherwise?

      It is clear that your head is in a book ... that is up someone's ass
    • datastorageguy, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1The CIA NEVER funded Osama bin Laden nor what became Al-Qaeda. If the CIA were to even come near an Al-Qaeda camp, they would have been killed. The CIA funded the mujahadeen in Afghanistan.

      This is what happens when 16 year olds get their news from websites like the Huffington Post.
      • BabyWookie, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Some of the Mujaheddin were moderates, but the vast majority were still Muslim extremists.
    • logdesigner, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1I read the New Yorker. Does that count?
  • DanPlainview, on 07/15/2008, -13/+8I'm going to get dugg down, but I don't care.

    That little ***** was lying through his teeth. He couldn't even look at the guy questioning him. Did you hear what they claimed as the "torture" that he experienced? They say he was moved to a new cell every 3 hours and hadn't slept properly in three weeks.
    You people on this site must hate yourselves, this kid obviously went to Afghanistan, was doing some terrorist *****, got caught for it and is now just acting like a little bitch and trying to cry his way out of the situation that he got himself into. It is his fault that he is there. Any normal Canadian citizen could not have ended up there because any normal Canadian citizen would not have been found in Afghanistan in a terrorist base. This kid should never be aloowed to touch Canadian soil again.
    They obviously are not torturing this kid. They are interrogating him and he is being a little bitch about it.
    All I can say is that if I ever got my hands on this little terrorist ***** I wouldn't show the mercy that the US government is showing him now.
    Don't bother responding, I'm not checking back on this comment. I'll just count it as it what it is, buried by all of you blind self-hating idiots.
    • asdfva, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1^^I'm sure that he had a nice Lemonade stand to earn the money to get to Afghanistan. I'm sure that he saw report on Digg no less, and decided on his own that he wanted to go to the mother land and fight to good fight.

      You're totally right. What was I thinking. Let's burn him alive!
  • rthakidn, on 07/15/2008, -8/+10The guy is getting what he deserves. You don't end up in a al-Queda camp by accident. I don't recall reading much sympathy for those Americans that were getting their heads cut off here at DIGG. Probably because the sentiment was that they deserved it for being there, well the same is true for Khadr. He should be glad his head is still on his shoulders.
    • asdfva, on 07/15/2008, -4/+2Those American's didn't deserve to die. But they were ADULTS and knew the risks involved, as does any grown ADULT that works in the military, or as a contractor. Your view is extremely limited.
      • rthakidn, on 07/15/2008, -1/+2The grenade that was thrown does not know the age of the arm that threw it. He got what he deserves. No, he got better than what he deserves.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1So Gitmo is about torture.
      • D3ADBOLT, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Its OK to torture al Queda
    • ad33lshahid, on 07/15/2008, -2/+2If theres evidence, lets see it. Also he was 15.
  • petrodollar, on 07/15/2008, -7/+4"Don't bother responding, I'm not checking back on this comment"

    Wow, what a pussy.
  • ShisouKen, on 07/15/2008, -5/+11Why was he in the al-Queda camp?
    • 99butcher99, on 07/15/2008, -2/+9at 14... when he was in the camp, does it really matter? He was duped by his family. He was dumped there? who cares.. He was 14 at the time. Take a look at any 14 year old you like. Hey.. maybe read a few articles about child soldiers.
      The real crime here is that the Canadian government are doing nothing to help him.
      • OCPaddler, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Please. Let him go and fly him back to Canada and he'll be preaching jihad with the rest of his terrorist family in no time.
    • peterfnet, on 07/15/2008, -0/+4Tourism?
    • massreader123, on 07/15/2008, -0/+5His father was friends with Osama. 60 Minutes did a story about this a while ago. Includes interview with the guy, now 20 or so.
      • rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -2/+1Punishment by Corruption of Blood is ok then.

        Section 3 - Treason Note

        Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

        The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
    • deathsythe, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1Because they start training them when they are young.

      Our enemies know that we will pretty much face crucifixion at home if we even think about shooting a child. Even if that child is wielding russian surplus AKs and firing at friendly troops.


      An Enemy Combatant is an Enemy Combatant - Combatants do not discriminate based on race, age, gender, or religion.

  • abajaj2280, on 07/15/2008, -8/+5you beat me to uploading the article.

    this is completely screwed up
  • 99butcher99, on 07/15/2008, -2/+7 The Harper government in Canada cannot seem to get its nose far enough up Bushes ass and this is just one more attempt to show how loyal they are to him.

    This child was 15 when arrested and under international law should be released to Canada. However the Canadian government has never even bothered to ask for him to be transferred to Canada. He was nothing more than a 15 year old child when this occurred. He needs to be moved back to Canada and if sent to trial his trial should be held under Canadian law.

    For those who think getting moved every 3 hours is not torture I have one question. If it is not a torture technique why would they do it?

    He is a kid people. Or was.


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