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Fingerprint Registry in Housing Bill!!!
openmarket.org — Fingerprints are considered to be among the most personal of information, and fingerprint databases created and proposed in the name of national security have generated much debate.
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- Jashobeam5, on 05/23/2008, -1/+12My bets are on this not making top story in national news and passing without much debate.
- PopcornDave, on 05/23/2008, -1/+12I'm glad I already own my own house because I sure as hell wouldn't put up with this kind of *****.
Unfortunately the youth of today seem to have no interest in protecting the freedoms they are letting slip through their fingers at an alarming rate. Do they have any idea what freedom even is? In 10 years is anybody going to remember when you weren't treated like a criminal every time you stepped outside your house?- aki009, on 05/24/2008, -0/+2Answer (sadly): no they won't, because they will be treated like criminals even inside their homes. (reference: warrantless searches, DC gun ordinances, etc. etc.)
- PopcornDave, on 05/23/2008, -1/+6The actual language regarding the fingerprint taking appears on pages 41 and 49 of the PDF: http://banking.senate.gov/public/_files/ManagersAm ...
- mathewsjw, on 05/23/2008, -8/+1the registry is of CRIMINALS, and KNOWN TERRORIST ACTS, none of which is private, and protected by "no unreasonable search" of the US Constitution.
- ssn697, on 05/23/2008, -0/+7Real Estate agents are known criminals? Yeah, some of them are sleazy, but known criminals?
- badqat, on 05/23/2008, -0/+4Don't forget those awful home owners either...they're just crime waiting to happen.
- ssn697, on 05/23/2008, -0/+7Real Estate agents are known criminals? Yeah, some of them are sleazy, but known criminals?
- Christianptriot, on 05/23/2008, -4/+7I have to agree with Popcorn Dave, that the youth of today have no real concept of real individuality and protecting it. They see the government as the nanny they need to help keep them safe form the bad guys out there...which only feeds into the liberal, one-world global community direction the US is heading toward.
The government seems bent on obtaining and maintaining a file on every single person in the US through some type of unique identifier - fingerprints, biometrics and DNA - but NO ONE is asking why?!?!
How does having a registry full of aw-abiding people prevent anything form happening or help find the people who did it?!- ssn697, on 05/23/2008, -1/+4Wasn't it Plato, who wrote about how the "youth of today" don't seem to care?
Just using that phrase gets you a digg down...
I have a 19 year old, and an 18 year old. They are very active, and concerned. Quit lumping everyone together, just because you want to.- Christianptriot, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1I have a 15-year-old who is also very astute. Unfortunately the majority casts their shadow over the others, and it appears to be the case in your household and mine.
My kids and I talk about world situations in relation to scripture and god's word, and they follow what is going on. But you have to admit that they are the think minority when it comes to that type of attention.
- Christianptriot, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1I have a 15-year-old who is also very astute. Unfortunately the majority casts their shadow over the others, and it appears to be the case in your household and mine.
- ssn697, on 05/23/2008, -1/+4Wasn't it Plato, who wrote about how the "youth of today" don't seem to care?
- UnFriendlyFire, on 05/23/2008, -0/+5Do anyone one still think Alex Jones and Ron Paul are wrong?
- mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/23/2008, -1/+4Meh...I gave my fingerprints willingly to get a govt. security clearance so it's too late for me to lose sleep over it. Personally I will be more worried when we start turning the US into a CCTV nightmare like in the UK.
- jerger23, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1Uncle Sam already took fingerprints and DNA samples when I joined the military, not much privacy left for me either way.
It reads to me that only mortgage lenders will be required to submit the prints. I was, admittedly, only skimming the reference and found only two instances of the print requirements.- jerger23, on 05/23/2008, -0/+1Sorry, left one thing off...assuming the statement I made above was correct, wouldn't this be effective in deterring/preventing lenders convicted of felony fraud from obtaining a new license under a new identity?
- jabberwolf, on 05/23/2008, -0/+2Id agree with it on some conditions.
1- If they are going to do this, link it with Social security and have credit agencies/banks/ EMPLOYERS use it as a name/registry check and require it.
THIS SIMPLE THING ALONE WOULD CUTE BACK ON MOST IDENTITY THEFT AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND SAVE THE USA BILLIONS OF DOLLARS!
Not that I'm against illegal immigration but against it's misuse by employers that dont want to pay taxes on employees or health care for them. Give them working permits, let them work and pay taxes, if over 3 years they have no criminal record - allow them to apply for citizenship. Everyone else, deport!
2- If I do this, it will be signed and sealed that NO law enforcement agency will be allowed to access nor use this information for prosecution or evidence in a court of law. They must obtain fingerprint data somewhere else. It is against constitutional law to require you to provide evidence and have it used against yourself in a court of law. - Minarchian, on 05/24/2008, -0/+4In a free country it is the people who watch and control their government.
In a tyranny, it is the State that tracks the people.
These asshats in government need to be weeded out and removed in office. They are destroying our liberties so radically that just ten years ago it would be very hard to imagine our government going to this extreme.
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