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democracynow.org — "We can no longer work with a news organization that claims to be fair and balanced when you are so far from that." They went on to write "Not only are you an instrument of the Bush White House, and Israeli propaganda, you are war mongers with no sense of decency, nor professionalism."
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- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -13/+107WOW!
I wonder if FAUX will cover this story.
DIGG!!- t0dd, on 10/12/2007, -13/+98I suggest watching OutFoxed: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418038/
Documentary on reported Conservative bias of the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News Channel (FNC), which promotes itself as "Fair and Balanced". Material includes interviews with former FNC employees and the inter-office memos they provided. - actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -6/+63Amen. Just lookup the definition of journalism:
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Journalism (from Dictionary.com):
“The style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation.” - scoot87, on 10/12/2007, -8/+63"Documentary on reported Conservative bias of the Rupert Murdoch-owned Fox News Channel (FNC), which promotes itself as "Fair and Balanced". Material includes interviews with former FNC employees and the inter-office memos they provided."
It's not a conservative bias. Its a Republican party bias and a Bush administration bias. - SmeRndmGy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+31If they do, you can be sure they will call him an unamerican traitor who hates America and would love it if the terrorists killed every last American man, woman and child because the vast anti-American communist liberal conspiracy ordered him to do so.
- RubeusEsclair, on 10/12/2007, -77/+21Everyone has at least some bias. Fox is just leaning to the Rupublican. Plenty of others lean the other way.
- actionscripted, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26@RubeusEsclair: That's the problem. News sources shouldn't have a bias at all.
- RenZ87, on 10/12/2007, -6/+41@RubeusEsclair
Then why claim to be fair and balanced? - Pwelborn1, on 10/12/2007, -107/+21If you actually think Fox News is biased at ALL, then you are so immersed into the liberal slant on all news that you have absolutely no idea where the center actually IS anymore. Fox News is the only remaining "traditional" news channel, in that it reports news and actually gives time to MULTIPLE differing opinions. Presenting the news from the standpoint that a majority of the people watching actually take some pride in this country and believe that we are still a force for good in the world and giving respect to men & women in uniform does not make you "conservative" or "republican" at all. I will be modded down and made to look like a fool for having an opinion that doesn't fall in line with the majority of the "smarter than everyone else" people here on digg, but I'm right. People like Fox news. People love this country, and they cherish their freedom, which is why guys like you will always have to pretend to be smarter than the rest of the US to make up for the fact that most people don't care what you have to say. Just quit being so negative.
- gravylookout, on 10/12/2007, -41/+18@Pwelborn1
You're completely right. People should stop being so negative and realize that cable news of any bias (they are all biased) are not there to report the news. They are there to make money. Just be thankful that capitalists run you news station instead of the government or religious extremests! - dukrous, on 10/12/2007, -49/+16@actionscripted:
As far as Fox goes, it's fairer and more balanced than other networks. Watching CNN for me is pure torture. Fox at least tries to present both sides, or an alternative side to an argument on their news shows. It's amazing to think that putting Conservative ideas in a good light is considered being a bias, but showing Liberal ideas as positive isn't. If this was real journalism, you would simply present the idea and let people decide. This isn't done by any news outlet anywhere. - mutz, on 10/12/2007, -22/+26@Pwelborn... get out of your country and visit some other countries... or maybe watch some news coverage from overseas and put it next to each other... are you freaking blind? Oh and along the way... your ass is owned... and your children's bodies as whole will be owned because of the stupidities of your countries dollar guzzling war machine... nothing to be proud off... get a hawk-eye and look at all the ***** you're into...
- BitSlash, on 10/12/2007, -8/+31umm, Pwelborn1, you just negated most of your comment by declaring that your opinion was correct, which leads to that everyone else is wrong. Furthermore, it feels like you are insinuating that people who don't like Fox news are anti-american, and making it sound like CNN, MSNBC, and local news media don't respect our armed forces. You are making yourself a "smarter than everyone else" digger. To illustrate the story's point, I turned my T.V. to Fox, and watched a newscast just now. Within 3 minutes, they put on some 'expert' trying to give his OPINION on the war of terror. And he was lauding President Bush for his attempt at controlling terrorism. It's a newscast. Not an opinion show. A proper news channel should show news. 24/7. Only what happened, nothing more. I'm not saying that CNN and MSNBC aren't guilty, because they are. Oh, and presenting pro-government media kinda defeats the purpose of having media as a watchdog of the government. The "traditional" news media was critical of the U.S. in it's early days. Every country has a propaganda news outlet. Let's face it, it's a great money making niche if you are a producer. Fox news just belongs to the U.S.
- Pwelborn1, on 10/12/2007, -43/+11@ dukrous
You are absolutely right. I haven't even seen 1 front page story here that expresses ANY outrage or even disappointment at any of the liberal (socialist) news outlets like MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, ABC NEWS, NBC NEWS, CBS NEWS and others. Lets all call for restraint and journalistic integrity, until it's someone who agrees with our opinion spouting spin as fact. Some of the people who comment here are so full of their own ego they can't even apply their own criticisms to themselves. - drizek, on 10/12/2007, -10/+49Why should capitalists run my news? The BBC is publically funded and all in all its one of the most objective news sources out there.
- gravylookout, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36@drizek
NPR and the BBC and CBC are all publicly funded and fantastic. I never turn on FOX or CNN or NBC to get my news. Another great site to see how the rest of the world views current events is http://www.pghs.sa.edu.au/wnews.htm - Pwelborn1, on 10/12/2007, -24/+7@BitSlash
"and presenting pro-government media kinda defeats the purpose of having media as a watchdog of the government"
And have an "all anti-anything-conservative" media accomplishes nothing as well. I don't believe that media should support everything the government does, but the argument that media cannot report the good things that government has accomplished (and there are good things being accomplished every day, even in Iraq-though not even fox is reporting it) is invalid. You cannot live blindly and think "people who have differing opinions than mine are incapable of good". It's just not true. - kolobcreek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I really don't see what the problem is. I mean really compared to Paula Zahn and Tom Brokaw it that much of a stretch?
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -13/+24About time someone said it. Thank God this man has the guts to take on some of the most evil people of our times. The Bush and Zionist warmongers need to be called what they really are: Crazy loons hellbent on blood lust of the entire middle east. I am a Christian who doesn't support all of the secular corporate war profiteering and Rapture Christians/Zionist state war loonies in Washington and Jerusalem. We'll be invading Iran and Syria before long if this 'dynamic' duo from Hell isn't stopped soon.
- snypa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The full letter can be read here: http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/08/03/serene-and-jomana-quit-the-racist-fox-news/
- ekleinunt, on 10/12/2007, -21/+15@Saintlink
The term "Zionist" is an outdated and remarkably racist word used only by people who want Jews wiped off of the planet.
If you want to tout yourself as "Christian" please feel free to change your word usage to something less repulsive, so you that you don't tarnish the faith of a rather large group of people. - Koopa, on 10/12/2007, -19/+13"The term "Zionist" is an outdated and remarkably racist word used only by people who want Jews wiped off of the planet.
If you want to tout yourself as "Christian" please feel free to change your word usage to something less repulsive, so you that you don't tarnish the faith of a rather large group of people."
Exactly--the term "Zionist" used to refer to a person who believed that Jews should have a homeland. Now, its been perverted by anti-Semites into a term referring to imaginary crazy psycho-Jews bent on world domination.
Kinda like how the word "liberal" has been changed into a label for crazy latte-drinking pinko commie hippies who hate America. - snypa, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24That's the biggest load of ***** I've ever heard, being anti-zionist has nothing to do with being anti-smite or anti-Jewish. Zionism is only based partly Judaism. I'm not doubting that at all the term has been used by racist facists whom have hatred for Jews, but has nothing to do with discriminating against Jews. There are even Jews who are against Zionism, many of which are devoutly orthodox Jews who are against the occupation of another land.
Jews are not a race either, of which your are implying. They aren't some race of people of which all support Zionism. Most Jews were happy living in Europe after WWII, they regarded the nations they resided in as their home. Take for example many Polish Jews. They are Poles, who follow the faith of Judaism, not some race that should congregated into one nation. - thealanberman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25@ekleinunt
I'm a Jew. I don't find the term "Zionist" offensive, nor do I think it's in any way racist. Thanks for attempting to be offended on behalf of the Jews of the world, but we can do just fine on our own. - Koopa, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3"Take for example many Polish Jews. They are Poles, who follow the faith of Judaism, not some race that should congregated into one nation."
Actually, I think Jews are a nation more than a race. According to wikipedia, a nation is a group of people with a common identity and origin--its kinda a shaky concept thats really not easy to define, but its different than a race. Jews are (or believe to be) descended from Abraham, and are exiles from what is present day Israel, kicked out by the Babylonians, or Romans, or any number of the other conquerers who've controlled the area. So the idea that they should be congregated into the State of Israel follows that line of thinking. Whether or not Zionists (in the old-style usage, not the negative one) foresaw what would happen and whether they would have felt all the violence was worth it or not is another issue. - Koopa, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7"I'm a Jew. I don't find the term "Zionist" offensive, nor do I think it's in any way racist. Thanks for attempting to be offended on behalf of the Jews of the world, but we can do just fine on our own."
I used to feel that way, and associated the word with Jewish heroes like Herzel and Ben Gurion and all them....but nowadays I hear it used to refer only to the Jewish Worldwide Conspiracy (to meetings of which I have sadly never been invited to attend), rather than to anything I can be proud of. The word has been hijacked. - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -8/+13Zionism is a perfectly legitimate for a Jewish state, ergo, Zionist warmonger is a perfectly legitimate term for Israeli movers and shakers that are cheering on WW-III. I denounce them just as I denounce all misguided Christians here in the United States who honestly believe that Armageddon is a good thing. Peace should be a universal Christian value, but certain unholy marriages of U.S./Israeli/Jewish/Christian elements have completely hijacked any logical debate on Middle East policy.
No more perfect example can be found in the outrageous oversensitivity when using the terms 'Jew, Jewish or Israel'. Opposing the state of Israel, forwarding Israeli interests of the interests of the people of the United States (or any other sovereign country) or condemning the actions of certain Jews IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. The people that don't want to have an honest debate will always play the race card instead of examining the semantics of the argument at hand.
Christians, Muslims and other groups have been subjected to public scrutiny for a long time. It is the United States media favoritism towards Israel that is keeping Americans from getting a more nuanced view of the Middle East. Instead of listening to Fox News (and to a lesser degree CNN and the other major networks) and hearing 'Israel/Jews good, Arab World/Muslims bad', I choose to believe that the world is a slightly more complex place. The story we are discussing illustrates this point precisely. It isn't just Fox News either.
In the interest of full disclosure I've stated that I'm a Christian, even though I know that a good portion of digg users are agnostic or otherwise very secular. Furthermore I'm an American. With United States history of playing world police (should anyone need reminding by now?) I have a vested interest in Middle East affairs, knowing full well that they have very significant effects on my world back at home. The people that are trying to obfuscate this issue by saying that strong criticism of Israel is comparable to being a terrorist sympathizer (look at Cheney's recent statement about Joe Lib. recent loss in the Conn. primary) or a bigot is not only outrageous--it is intellectually dishonest.
I stand by my original post, even if the sensitivity police are offended. - goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Pwelborn1:
I dugg up your first comment by mistake. I meant to hit digg down. So please subtract 2 diggs. - Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Unreal. People burried this story? Fair and balanced? By stuffing this story in the garbage can it proves just how rabid the neocon mindset really is. Both sides of the story? This half apparently doesn't count. Thank you for proving our point right. Neocons, please leave digg posthaste. Thank you.
- neopara, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@Pwelborn1
You are a perfect example of what is called American Exceptionalism. It is perception that the United States differs qualitatively from other developed nations, because of its unique origins, national credo, historical evolution, and distinctive political and religious institutions.
This idea of destiny or nobility is the same ***** that Germans had in WWII or in Japanese invasion of China. As a child, I was always amazed at how Hilter came to power, but now I see the US atmosphere and it is not much different then early Germany. I not calling Bush Hilter or anything, but this very strong nationalism in United States is very disturbing. - spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@neopara
You're not the first to draw this parallel and I actually think it's a good thing. This repetition of history will open the eyes of many, as it has opened yours, and will bring about the birth of an age of education and unity. Nobody wants another world war or holocaust - especially with that generation still in America's populace to share their experience and wisdom on their personal accounts of such historical genocide.
The words of our elders combined with the Internet will be the catalyst of the start of a new globalized era. Slowly nationalism will lessen and co-operation between nations will grow. Borders, and in turn the world, will shrink.
Unfortunately, humanity loves to learn the hard way. So long as we learn, let the history of today unfold and reveal itself. Hopefully mankind will come about to realize a more sensible course of action sooner than later. - davinic, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10@Pwelborn1:
>>Fox News is the only remaining "traditional" news channel, in that it reports news and actually gives time to MULTIPLE differing opinions.
True. As Stephen Colbert said, they give time to the President's AND the Vice President's side of the story! - leadingzero, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5did anyone read the article? FTA:
"After three years and watching their coverage, I thought I could make a difference working with them. I could influence some of the people that are coming into the region, because they have recently just, you know, come into this part of the world."
-these producers had liberal slants before they even worked for the station. The came into the job, with their own biases, trying to change the organization from within. When they realized that they couldn't, then they decided to leave. This is like Michael Moore joining Fox for a day then quitting and trying to make headlines. This is not news. - goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2spyrochaete:
Nicely put. Borders and national identity WILL go the way of history. It may be early, but it's already in the cards. The sooner the better IMO. - bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9There has not been a LIBERAL media in existance in this country since around 95. Ever since then, the media has turned more and more conservative. Since 9/11, the media has completely lost it's balls, and forgot how to do it's job.
The job of the media, is to present the FACTS, not opinion. Forming an opinion is the job of the viewer. The media is also supposed to give equal time to all sides of the story. Where was the media asking REAL questions before this ***** of a mess we have in Iraq. If you had a brain, and actually did any research on your own, read/watched any foriegn media, you would have known Bush was living in fantasy land.
Hearing neocons bitch about liberal media makes me want to vomit. THERE IS NO LIBERAL MEDIA in the US. - labmouse42, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5@Pwelborn1
"Fox News is the only remaining "traditional" news channel, in that it reports news and actually gives time to MULTIPLE differing opinions."
As Steve Colbert said "Fox news gives both sides of the issue. They give the presidents side, and the vice presidents side" - leehodge, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6@bemenaker
THERE IS NO LIBERAL MEDIA in the US.
That has got to be one of the silliest statements I have seen posted on digg.
When you are blinded by your on bs, your observation skills diminish greatly. Most people that whine about Fox are people that have been spoon-fed their liberal-biased pabulum for all of their lives and anything not liberally (leftist) biased makes them very upset. The Euro-weenies that like to complain about the US are so deeply damaged by the European liberal mindset there is little to no reason to even read their comments. All reporting has some bias – often Fox is far less biased than the main-stream liberal media (NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, The New York Times, The Washington Post…to name a few)
CBS tried to take down a sitting president with obviously fake documents – can’t get much more biased than that – just ask Dan Rather. - Phatt138, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8leehodge-
"The Euro-weenies that like to complain about the US are so deeply damaged by the European liberal mindset..."
I understand your point, but here's mine: if the REST OF THE WORLD is "liberal" to you, YOU'RE the extremist. - babakshirazi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Pwelborn1 you are absolutely right. Most people on Digg are so left-wing it's not even funny. They just do not understand the world they live in.
The left-wing plan against terrorism so far has been:
1. encourage appeasement of terrorists
2. don't search any bags on the subway
3. don't tap any phones
4. don't anger any terrorists
5. criticize Israel for fighting Hizbullah
6. don't protect our border
7. criticize Bush for actually doing something
8. blast US troops for Abu Ghraib and other "atrocities"
Totally spineless in the face of Islamic domination. It's a shame. How did so many people come to believe this liberal *****????
Fox News IS balanced. It's just that the other networks are so far out of whack it's crazy. I've lived in Europe, Europe is totally left wing and not a place you aspire to live in. Europe will be totally Muslim within 50 years. I'm from Iran and I can tell you that the Muslims have lost their mind. Most Iranians don't really want any part of a crazy religious society but cannot say that in public while the religious idiots are in charge.
Get out and travel? Have any of you ever been to Iran or the Middle East? I've been to many countries there including my home country of Iran, Kuwait, UAE, Afghanistan, and Egypt. Most Americans don't travel overseas much at all.
Once Iran get nukes and blows up Israel and the Palestinians take over, the Shiites will continue their push and the regional governments will fall. The nwhat will the liberal left do? Nothing, because they are pussies.
Then you will be facing a united Shiite force. Europe will pretty much be converted so the European Muslims will join forces naturally and become more radical and Europe will be finished. But, Europe deserves what's coming because they have no balls.
Then it will be the US vs. the rest of the world and the liberal left wing grandkids will be drafted to do what their pussy grand parents had no balls to do.
It doesn't really matter though, this war is already over and the terrorists have won. Do you know why? Because of idiotic mentality like most of Digg users who think you can negotiate w/ terrorists and no one has the will to just killl them all. When terrorists have the mentality of cutting off heads and strapping on explosive vests they cannot be stopped.
Wait until the world lets them have nukes. People who want to go to heaven with nukes....unbelievable how stupid the West has become. - andrew1193, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"The BBC is publically funded and all in all its one of the most objective news sources out there."
Funny then, that during the initial invasion of Iraq, the BBC merely repeated everything issued by the Information Minister.
In fact, the BBC is biased in favor of anti-Americanism, pro-statism, socialism, totalitarianism, etc.
- t0dd, on 10/12/2007, -13/+98I suggest watching OutFoxed: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418038/
- Twango, on 10/12/2007, -7/+65He finally noticed ???
- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -6/+52Probably couldn't sleep at night.
- jaikar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Noticed or didn't notice, makes no difference.
Both are Arabs or of Arab origin. The biased news is against Arabs/Muslims. So the resignation can easily be brushed under the carpet because the news is ONLY conveying the truth which happens to be protested by the terrorists. Of course terrorists don't like to be criticized. That's a very basic argument that would undermine the resignation. There are many others.
It would worth more if they were of Anglo-Saxon origin. Yet, they will be called anti-Semite.
Maybe of the Jewish faith would make a difference? Well, sorry to disappoint you, those have a term coined for them as well, i.e. self-hating Jews.
Such sophistry is spread around the world to the point of no return.
Personally, I believe all US media outlets are biased against Arabs/Muslims. But again, that's a personal opinion which doesn't count in a "democratic" medium.
- helix400, on 10/12/2007, -16/+60"And as a mother of three, watching the images, the raw images of children being pulled out of the rubble, and then I switched to Fox News to hear some of their anchors claiming that these little kids that were killed,... And one of the anchors went as far as saying they were planted there by Hezbollah to win support in this war."
I wonder if she is referring to the green helmet guy who pulled dead children's bodies out of ambulances and paraded them in front of destroyed buildings for the media. Here's a link to a clip of him doing just that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vPAkc5CLgc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.solomonia.com%2Fblog%2F
Oh, and my standard Fox News disclaimer. Ya, they are very biased. I just wish they drop the "fair and balanced" and admit their bias. People would argue a lot less if they did.- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17that video is sad and scary
- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9people would watch a lot less too.
- TSK06, on 10/12/2007, -17/+13That video has been discredited many times and the guy who made it was fired for faking images.
- helix400, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6What!? That entire video was faked? I know photos have been faked, but an entire video? Can you give us a source to this?
- goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1TSK06:
There is a suspicious cut in the video at a key point, but what do you mean "faked"? Could you provide a link to back up your claim?
- YngRpblcn619, on 10/12/2007, -12/+35As a moderate conservative, even I can't stand Fox news half the time
- Trublmakr, on 10/12/2007, -7/+72The whole conservative ideology has been hijacked by these ass-clowns. Conservative in Canada means small government and frugal consideration afforded taxpayers money. NOT big expensive and invasive government that takes my aftershave at the airport.
- GraceMolloy, on 10/12/2007, -35/+13Sad part is that CNN's not any better. They're just Left instead of Right.
- EmileVictor, on 10/12/2007, -12/+23Well, at least in most people's minds left is closer to the truth than right.
- geekinhiding, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20Trublmakr,
Once upon a time, that is what conservative meant down here, too. It doesn't seem to be about having a limited government anymore, just having two factions fighting back and forth for power, and getting more once they have it. - Sp1k3d, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22Tell that to Stephan Harper Trublmakr, he is exactly the same as Bush only with a slightly higher IQ, which in a way is scary because it actually means that he can actually cunningly fool us! He doesn't look incompetent which allows him to sneak by the most draconian legislation in Canadian history.
It's not just Bush, neo-fascism (neo-conservatism) must be resisted. - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Conservative in the general sense is preservation of what has been, which is relative to place and time.
A little more specific, what recently has been, because conservatives die out and those that have lived under the gains of other factions, in turn protect those gains against new gains. - reb42, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Well put EmileVictor... I totally agree. Many people see the rights (in America) as ideological and the lefts as a grounded in reason.
- PhiGuy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10"Tell that to Stephan Harper Trublmakr, he is exactly the same as Bush only with a slightly higher IQ"
Hmmm...not even close. Stephan Harper would be unelectable as a Republican pretty much anywhere in the U.S., and unelectable in most of the country as a Democrat. Why? He supports a lot of pretty crazy schemes, like universal health care, giving families money for daycare, multiculturalism, tax breaks for working people, etc., etc. Bush is in a league of his own, in this decade, at least.
Conservative? Republicans have hijacked conservatism and turned it into the opposite of what it really is. The simple fact that this "conservative" administration has managed to spend as much money as it has is evidence of its "liberal" economic leanings. Money is money - how it's spent should not be the determining factor when deciding if a government is "conservative" or "liberal" - spending for "conservative" reasons is a sham. Of course, the belief that his spending is protecting and/or promoting "conservative" values is the heart of Bush's deception. - beotch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Harper talks flowers and pussycats but while everyone is watching he keeps planting big slobbery kisses on Bush's ass. Where is my ***** money!
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Trublmakr,
Amen brother. Classical conservatism means less government, not more. Neo-conservatism is an oxymoron. It is neither new, nor is it conservative. It is an unholy mismash of the worst 'values' of fascism and communism. - dmh11686, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Well I am a conservative and I love FoxNews and your point is. And yes not all republican conservatives in congress have held up to the ideals that they aspire to. But they are still a lot better then democrats and liberals.
All FoxNews does is give conservative views as much respect as liberal views. And that makes some liberals really mad. You guys can complain all you want but FoxNews will still be the most watched cable news channel daily blowing away all its competitors. - Nik420, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Sad part is that CNN's not any better. They're just Left instead of Right."
Where do people get this from?? I'll never understand. Fox News is obviously a right-wing mouthpiece, but why does that make CNN left wing?? CNN is centrist at best (even a little right leaning in my opinion, but not as bad a Fox News) It shows how far skewed American politics have gone to the right if anyone considers CNN left wing. Watch CBC or BBC news and compare them to CNN before painting CNN with the left-wing brush.
- themacx, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17now if only the rest would wake up also.....
- d1carter, on 10/12/2007, -37/+12At least one of these worked for Al Jazeera news, what do you expect. When they couldn't get their slant on the air, they resigned to work for someone else that agrees with them.
- kubak, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29- mod me down
- franksmith, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3He edited... or finally read the story... nevermind
- PurgueFlantar, on 10/12/2007, -11/+28This scares me: Faux news is the #61 most popular website in the US. This guy I know will open up their website every time I tell him something in the news. He doesn't believe the story unless he sees it on faux news!
http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?cc=US&ts_mode=country&lang=none- joeydoo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17I suggest you make fun of him for his stupidity. What else can you do, it's not like you can reason with a retard like that..
- vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Not quite as scary as myspace being number 3...
- RenZ87, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Have you tried showing him this video?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696&hl=en - beotch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Or this one:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ar0jRu5fDZw
The commentators can't possible accept what is happening. - babakshirazi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0
Exactly what is not balanced? The fact that Fox News believes that terrorism is wrong? Most of the other news stations seem to hope that the US loses this war.
The left wing has bought into so many conspiracy theories it's not even funny. They actually believe the US Govt did 9/11 and that Halliburton, CIA, Bilderberg, Masons, etc. control the whole world. Hmmm, must be those chemtrails sprayed everywhere affecting your brains.
I've never seen a more spineless group of people. I hope a Democrat wins next election so that we can see what the left wing plan to fight terrorism is. Is it A) Pull out after they drag a US soldier body through the street or B) try to rescue Iranian hostages but crash the helicopters or C) Bomb a pharmaceutical factory by mistake or D) nothing at all.
I really wish the left wing would move out of the US like they all said they would once Bush was elected.
- jimmyk, on 10/12/2007, -38/+5Free Lancers who worked for Al Jazeera and the war comes along they leaveas or would be killed. So what? Get Real ! No story here. Jeeez.
- Sertorius, on 10/12/2007, -9/+32Folks, what do you expect from a news site (FOX) that is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a very pro-Israeli personage? I threw out my TV in 1999 and have never felt more free. Try it.
- fanzhango, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29I remember turning on FOX news to watch the aftermath of the Qana bombing. I forgot which show but there were two analysts being interview. And they were arguing who's to blame for the incident. One analyst think Hezbollah is responsible and the other one argue it's really Iran's fault. I guess that's their attempt to present views from both sides of the issue.
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15LOL, that's like in the movie blues brothers "we have both kinds of music, country AND western"
- trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -9/+17Wow someone from Fox tells the truth! I really hope one day Fox News digs themselves into a hole they can't get out of and shuts down.
- friend18, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13OWNED
Someone has a conscious. I guess I shouldn't say that. Alot of the people who work for Fox might be idiots or genuinely believe they are right. - kaytrio, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20He was trying to help fix Fox News. I think that's commendable.
- flamingmb, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18Fox news unfair and unbalanced? who knew................
- enki25, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15His story about how he was forced to produce GOP PR is probably just a cover for the real reason he resigned: being groped by Bill Oreilly.
- skaughtm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8felafels on me for everyone.
- crypto55, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Thank goodness they had a press release, otherwise we might never have realized that FOX isn't unbiased!
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -21/+11Consider Fox the network for a moment. Since its inception, Fox (the network) has been in the business of stirring the pot and pushing boundaries. The Simpsons may be tame today, but when it was first broadcast it was cutting edge broadcast TV. Fox aired many ethnically diverse sitcoms when the other three networks weren't (except Cosby maybe). Fox (the network) has always been a rulebreaker.
So, why should Fox News be any different? They're stirring the pot, being controversial, and everyone is talking about them. Regardless of journalistic integrity, that's a great business model.- cougar618, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7Couldn't the same be said for Hitler?
- omgwut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Wow, there's something to be proud about.
Creating a style over substance business model while destroying the honorable decades-old field of factual journalism in the process. - Trublmakr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Sure,.. if reporting the news is supposed to be a business. I recall Bill O'reilly once ripping into the Canadian government's CBC News for having a blatent liberal bias. As a conservative, I found that pretty offensive. The CBC is hardly beyond reproach,.. but light years ahead of FOX when it comes to professional journalism. It's not anti- American to report reality,.. but you won't see things like this on Fox. http://www.cbc.ca/photogallery/_world.html?dataPath=/photogallery/world/gallery_20/xml/gallery_20.xml
- digimoat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Stirring the pot is good but that's not what is going on here. Fox consistently slams the other new stations for being liberal media outlets and promotes that their stories are fair and balanced. Basically, they are creating a monopoly on the "true media" and then lecturing what they believe.
As for a debate, one could argue that shows like Hannity and Colmes is just that. However, watch it just once and see how much facetime Hannity gets compared to Holmes. The amount of time he is allowed to speak and criticize based upon his Republican beliefs is directly proportional to the level at which Fox presents news- conservative 90% of the time, liberal for 10%, and never unbiased. - angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"So, why should Fox News be any different?"
Because it's news. I'm not saying don't be controversial, but at least let the public make up their own minds by giving them the facts and not the opinion of some clandestine editor or producer who's getting slipped notes from a Bush spokesperson. When you can no longer think freely then you have lost all power. - PhiGuy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Journalism - true journalism - is inherently objective AND as balanced as possible. If Fox News presents itself as a source of journalism, it has to be objective and balanced to be taken seriously - Fox News is neither objective or balanced. Sadly, this has become the case with most American news sources. For example, I've watched CNN for many years, and, for different reasons, it has become, to a great degree, a joke. In order to compete with Fox, it also panders to its audience. Although it is not doing so by using obvious political leanings, it does so simply by being entertaining - which creates nearly as much subjectivity and lack of balanced reporting. Nancy Grace? Glenn Beck? Lou Dobbs? Oh my God! What the hell happened? Fox News happened. Ratings bucks for news shows happened. Once upon a time, networks ran their news divisions as a service to their viewing public - profit was not a consideration. (Ironically, CNN's success was the original beginning of the end). Sorry folks, real television news in America is dead. The myth of the "liberal media" killed it - people started choosing their news based on whether or not they AGREED with it. God help us all.
- gravylookout, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I don't look at cable news as journalism. In journalism, the reporter's responsibility is to uphold the truth. The only responsibility the cable news companies have is to their advertisers.
"When you can no longer think freely then you have lost all power."
We live in America, and if there's one thing Americans understand its money. You have all the power in the world as a consumer. Just change the channel...
- franksmith, on 10/12/2007, -29/+7This is a bunch of politically charged BS... (we must be coming up on an election) it is from a FAR LEFT website and at least one of the resigned "producers" is an Arab that worked for Al Jazeera...
Gee, I wonder if she might have a bias of her own? Plug your nose before reading.
- Nik420, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh my god she's an arab. That bitch, doesn't she know she isn't allowed to have an opinion!!
Dumbass. - babakshirazi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1
Balanced? Like NPR is balanced? Like CNN is balanced? Like a Michael Moore movie? Gimme a *****' break.
Oreilly lets the left wing idiots speak and then the right speak. You decide who's right. The problem is that most of the left wing are too much of pussies to come
on the show. Why? Because he will ask them tough questions that Katie Couric
is too chicken to ask.
Oreilly always has Sharpton on who stands up for himself. Most liberals don't have any balls though.
- Nik420, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Oh my god she's an arab. That bitch, doesn't she know she isn't allowed to have an opinion!!
- dist0rti0n, on 10/12/2007, -34/+12just remember, without Fox all you'd have left is the liberal media. The real trick is to listen to both sides and make your own decision.
- Vermifax, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20Liberal media is startin' to sound better and better these days....
- Jacob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8The trick is to never look at either side and instead if you hear of something important that you feel you would like to know about you research the facts instead of the biased ***** both sides give you.
- hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's kind of like saying without dirt you'd just have lead, or without electrons you'd just have protons, or something else that ignores other possibilities or value judgments.
Maybe without clay you'd just have wood? Making things out of gold is expensive don't you know? - Narpas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14The trick is to listen to NPR and BBC, which are as centrist as you'll find and a whole lot more in-depth and intelligent than most other outlets!
- babakshirazi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
NPR or BBC Centrist? Dude, what kind of ganja are you smoking?
Those are both far left. If you don't know that then you are waaay biased. - franksmith, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Your mod down is living proof of people believing what they are fed by the left media. They are insulted that maybe there can be two opinions or points of view??? That hearing both sides and then making a decision is so insulting? Wow... such attitudes from such an enlightened generation?
There is just a bunch a young lefty collage kids that think they have it all figured out, hanging out here... sure would love to see the look on their faces when they grow up and get a clue someday.
Hopefully
- diargasm, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30Fox News is a channel for Israeli propoganda, just a little more obvious than CNN.
- paulkman, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21This is why we get our news from the Internet.
- elastikos, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16I thought wow an American producer from Fox news quit, but then I read the article and it was 2 Fox workers from Jordan. Not that Fox isn't a steaming pile of *****, but the fact that these guys are from Jordan is a big fact that is not in the small paragraphed quote.
- TimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5heh...I haven't been to Ms. Goodman's site in quite some time, Amy Goodman is some good *****, more people should check out her work...
- axiomflash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Does anyone know what the deal with Colmes is? I've never been able to piece together how he can allow himself to be a part of that sham. Is there a democrat in all the US who respects him?
- TimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7random fact about alam colmes...he's owns the domain.
alan.com - Arainach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Colmes was basically hand-picked as the worst liberal debator they could find. He's a nice enough guy, but he's the token liberal.
- Narpas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I believe he's secretly a conservitive playing the part of a liberal. No, really: that's what I think.
- babakshirazi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
Because the left doesn't have a single person who even knows how to debate. Name one? All the left has are retards like Al Franken or Michael Moore. Ariana Huffington? Dershowitz? or the left wing champion like Chomsky? Please.
The right used to be wacky, but now it is the left. The left think they are clever by opposing the war, but most Americans have seen what the left is really made of.
Your average American may not be a genius, but they know it's a smart thing to check bags on a subway, tap calls of suspected terrorists, close the border, scrutinize Muslims a bit more at the airport and kill the enemy before they kill us and to support troops who will do this.
Somehow, the left just doesn't understand the world they live in.
In the next elections, the Democrats will lose again, this time by a wider margin.
- TimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7random fact about alam colmes...he's owns the domain.
- MonkeyLives, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Best way to get your news:
1) TV on and to CNN but muted - they seem to still have the most remote live feeds around the world
2) Google news aggregator or something similar - TimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9http://www.alan.com/photogallery/2001/alan_wnewton.jpg
whoa thats a scary ass picture!! - culbeda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Too bad they were foreign born producers. Their opinion will have little-to-no-effect on the majority of the Fox News watching sheep.
And I second the recommendation for OutFoxed. Good information. - bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -32/+8ROFL
What a circle jerk of liberal crap.
Go ahead and give each other reach around. Fox is about as middle of the road as any new network. Just because they tell truths you don't want to hear you attack the messenger. They do plenty of articles that are antagonistic to the Bush administration, but since they aren't rabid enough to equate him to a bucket of warm spit, as done on MS NBC, then they are neocons. Just because the report the well proven facts of false death claims (lets see, the body count went from 21 to uh well there was 1 dead) then they must be Zionists. Go ahead stick your fingers in your ears and repeat nah nah nah nah.
Even the premise for this article is total crap. Some obviously biased Muslim sympathizers quit, and you lot use it as a spring board to attack who,,, the bias from the folks seeding damaged buildings with clean new toys and children's corpses with rigormoris and splotching from having been dead for over 48 hours??? No you attack the ONLY news organization that exposed the liars.
Here is a hint. If your world view requires the squelching of the truth, you should examine your perceptions.- omgwut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I'd hardly call people like Brit Hume or Bill O'Reilly unbiased in their professions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRgpDP97mLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_yMT5V8SI
- omgwut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I'd hardly call people like Brit Hume or Bill O'Reilly unbiased in their professions.
- 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8i wonder if jon stewart will give oriley ***** for this...
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -23/+3Jon Stewart.
Well now, there is fair and balanced reporting.
I bet this class of geniuses is the same group who can't name the branches of government, or doesn't know who fought on what side in WWI or WWII and why.
Why don't you just rune in to the Saturday morning cartoons for your facts. - MyDocuments, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14@bcismar
you dumbass. the daily show, and colbert report for that matter, never claimed to be fair and balanced. it's a show featuring satire of the recent events IN news; it is however, NOT NEWS, despite any of your claims.
on the other hand, fox news has a professional and ethical responsibility to provide REAL news, "a style of writing for presenting bare facts to describe news events." now many conservatives have commented here stating that they acknowledge fox news' conservative bias.
are you telling me you still don't see the problem with that? FAIR AND BALANCED does not mean LIGHT SKINNED STANDING ON TWO FEET.. - bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -15/+1My goodness MyDocuments,,, What a Potty mouth you are figures seeing as how your so full of it, it must be coming out both ends.
What I find truly hilarious is that this article, clearly biased and miss leading in it blatant omission of key facts, like the news producers who quit were in Jordan and had ties to Al Jazera,,, that such clear eyed fair commentary is used to what, bash Fox as being biased....
And you can't see your own hypocrisy,,,
BTW, of all the news networks, who has the most minority commentators? Yeah, Fox does. So what is your comment "LIGHT SKINNED STANDING ON TWO FEET" Oh yeah, it's just another bald faced BS lie from the left. - kas451, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@bcismar
You sir are an assclown, and you cannot spell or use correct grammar. Kindly learn those vital skills before trying to teach me American history. - labmouse42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@bcismar
"Why don't you just rune in to the Saturday morning cartoons for your facts."
Why did you assume from the comment "i wonder if jon stewart will give oriley ***** for this.." to the daily show being a news show.
Comparing The Daily Show to a Fox news is not a realistic compairson. The Daily show is proceeded by muppets making crank calls. The role of comedy is to make fun of events.
What made you make this non-sensical jump on conclusions?
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -23/+3Jon Stewart.
- TSK06, on 10/12/2007, -19/+9Two people living in Jordan resign.... what a surprise. Marked as innacurate for mis-leading title.
- drizek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Because we all know brown people are incapable of being producers. And theyre girls too! I call BS on this one.
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4You call BS?
Wow. Well that settles it.
Straight from the horses ass,,, err I mean mouth.
no,,, I was right the first time
- RenZ87, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Wow I guess they're supporting the terrorist now. ?Srcm
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23I saw some Fox morning show once while waiting somewhere...it was a straight up hate fest against atheists. I was chilled. Fascism never looked so imminent.
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -20/+4Obviously you don't know what Fascism is.
- JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14If FOX wasn't so bad at their job what would Stewart and Colbert do? So many great comedy moments would be lost! ;)
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2It's easy to get a laugh by not divulging the truth and catering to the bias of an audience.
How you can compare comedy to reality is, well, unreal. - JMJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Who's comparing anything!?! Lets see if I can explain this for you...
FOX says dumb and/or often miss-leading things.
Stewart/Colbert point these out.
We laugh at FOX.
If FOX doesn't say dumb and/or often miss-leading things.
Stewart/Colbert can't point these out.
We can't laugh at FOX.
Can someone answer me why some people hyperventilate over light hearted jests? - bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1I think light hearted jest are great. I loved the suggestion that Cheny take a couple of the more wild eyed ultra right mambers on a hunting trip.
Problem is, a frightening percentage of people think these jokes are justification, no, validation of real rabid hatred. These "jokes" become the same thing as "Sambo" jokes in the old South were. a means to justify and normalise false beliefs and bitter hatred.
Just look, and I mean honestly look at the comments here about Fox. Is there really any reasoned discussion of fact? No. Just spewing blind hatred,
And I hate, hatred :) - labmouse42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@bcismar
"How you can compare comedy to reality is, well, unreal."
At this point, I gotta ask...
Does someone pay you to make such stupid statements?
Heres a clue-pon. Go learn how comedy is done and why its so funny.
To find these facts of which you claim are not existant, watch the video linked in the first comment. After you have disputed those points, we can continue to disucss.
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2It's easy to get a laugh by not divulging the truth and catering to the bias of an audience.
- stephencolbert, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15Fox News anchor John Gibson is a closet WHITE POWER enthusiast:
http://www.codebot.org/articles/?doc=9459 - BillDoE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4My view on this is that no news has any business being fair and balanced. I think it is a reporters duty to get the truth. Not tell us their opinion. I would say it is my duty to watch and read all the news from many sources and decide for my self. Most of the stuff I see on these so call news channels is editorial (opinion) rather than news. Fox, CNN, MS-NBC just to name a few 24 hour "news" channels are all guilty. With the exception of a few reporters working for each of these services, being pretty good. I watch them all and keep my eye on Digg for anything I am missing..hehe
I'm curious though. Does this Serene Sabbagh think Al-Jazeera is fair and balanced?- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5"I'm curious though. Does this Serene Sabbagh think Al-Jazeera is fair and balanced?"
Oh you know they are!
They hate Bush so they must be telling the unbiased truth. - Petrushka, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@BillDoE: I'd be curious to know what specific reasons you have for mistrusting Aljazeera. I read their news occasionally and it seems to me pretty balanced, and extremely informative -- they often go into much more depth than I can find on the BBC or any other news sites.
Incidentally, since I notice a number of other people claiming that Aljazeera is as bad as Fox, and saying that "at least *they* don't claim to be fair and balanced" etc. In fact, the first paragraph of Aljazeera's code of ethics states:
"Adhere to the journalistic values of honesty, courage, fairness, balance, independence, credibility and diversity, giving no priority to commercial or political considerations over professional ones." - kas451, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Al Jazeera simply takes objective news to the extreme. Somewhere self-censorship should come in (Showing graphic images of bombings etc.). However I do not see how showing true images is biased, or anti-American, these aren't fabricated stories or pictures they create. They are a much better NEWS source than Fox
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5"I'm curious though. Does this Serene Sabbagh think Al-Jazeera is fair and balanced?"
- starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3he better watch out. he knows what bush does to traitors.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3I understand the part about fox being the white house teacher pet, but them supporting israel too much? no. These guys are just angry that Fox, as bad as it is, isn't calling for Israel's destruction. ***** them. They're biased themselves.
Just because Israel is involved in a war, doesn't mean they are evil.- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Israel's war = Israel's problem.
As an American who's seen enough death and destruction in the Middle East I want to have nothing to do with your petty feuds.
- Saintlink, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Israel's war = Israel's problem.
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13What sucks the most is this crap makes us all losers. We have no one to trust anymore for information. We can't trust the media, can't trust the government, can't trust the teachers who work in government controlled schools, can't trust our religious leaders who have their own agendas.
We're all screwed, and left out in the cold.- Narpas, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Hey! You can trust a bunch of the teachers!
- RenZ87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4You can trust yourself?
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"You can trust yourself?"
That's what I mean by left out in the cold. It's you, and you alone that you can trust. - ElectroBot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can trust the democracy of the Internet (for now that is).
- Herolint, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2News does nothing more these days that attempt to form public opinion. CNN does it, FOX does it, Al Jazeera does it. So in my opinion, anybody whining like this about how "unfair" it all is, are just trying to capitalize on the industry. They knew what it was all about going in.
Maybe this producer can do a conservative version of Goldberg a few years back and write a book called "Bias Too; The Other Side of the Fence".- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"News does nothing more these days that attempt to form public opinion" that's not news, that's propaganda.
- davejr, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Fox news is far more "fair and balanced" than CNN, NPR and other far leftist programing on television such as the "news" programing on Comedy Central. Fox will regularly have spokespeople from both sides of issues during interviews.
- spurtle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Left------------------------------------center--------cnn/cbs/msnbc-------------------------------fox---right
- Koskun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6This is a ways down, but...
Personally the only time I even watch any news anymore is local news at 6 and/or 11 and possibly ABC World News. Both (while not in the same league) to me just give you what has happened and that is that. ABC's specials I don't even bother with as they are more editorials of what they think is right and wrong, but the evening news, for the greater part, is just the facts.
My problem with the cable news shows is that it has turned into a pissing match. Originally it was trying to out scoop each other to get the news to air first, but in this day and age, with people keeping cameras with them 24/7 (camcorders, cell phones, and the like), local news stations possibly getting a big break, and the big companies having crews stations all over, getting to air first anymore means by a couple of minutes. So now it is attack the other guy.
The attacks between O'Reilly and Olberman (sp) were commical at first, and now they have just dragged on and on that it detracts from the show. And it goes beyond just those two as it seems that the main three, CNN/Headline News, MSNBC, and Fox News like to bash each other whenever they can get the chance. Leave it alone. Just report the news and if you got something wrong or it is found out later that something was wrong man up and say it was wrong and move on.
To the story, I think that is what happened. Whatever his (the producer) political standing is, I think he just finally saw thru the garbage and saw that it wasn't news anymore, it is just views. - zentro, on 10/12/2007, -9/+10Let's face it, if Bush hadn't cheated his way into the White House there would have been:
- no 9/11
- no war in Afghanistan
- no invasion of Iraq
Just to mention a few.- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6What total crap.
9/11 was well past planned and moving forward long before Bush was elected in 2000.
In fact, Al Qeada was reacting to 8 years of Billy loose zipper boy *****-on.
Just what color is the sky in your pretend world anyway? - ElectroBot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The September 11th terrorist attacks still probably would've happened, BUT the reaction to them would've been different.
The US would've gotten rid of the Taliblan in Afganistan (with the support of the rest of the world). They woudn't have invaded Iraq though. The rest of the world would've still respected the US. - labmouse42, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2A broken clock is right twice a day.
bcismar does have a point here. 9/11 would have happened with or without bush, and was a result of poor foreign policy for year.
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6What total crap.
- Moonpig, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9There is hardly ANY objective reporting in the American media,especially
on Israel. As most Americans will never travel outside of their country they
will never understand the distorting prism American media holds up to the world. I have access to news media from several different countries and believe me there is very little objectivity coming out of the states.- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3Been over there.
Buried friends from there.
Bled there myself.
The media lies. All media lies.
Fox is the least offensive by miles.
If you applied even the simplist logic, you couls see it.
Isreal, with their troops and citizens under attack decided to just go bomb some poor civilian house so the rabid media could spread it around the world? Some puppet mastery there. I guess they aren't the great conspirators everyone makes them out to be. They must also have no war fighting skills at all to be wasting valuable munitions and fuel to blow up women and children instead of rocket launchers and enemy fighters.
You got a brain.
Use it. - Moonpig, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I do use my brain. It causes me to question Israels tactics in this campaign. Hezbollah started firing rockets into Israel AFTER Israels
bombing campaign started. A campaign that TARGETED infrastructure and civilians.
Look I don't support Hezbollah or any terrorist group, but I'm sickened by
how Israel is painted as the good guy in this conflict, (by the American media), when their actions prove otherwise.
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3Been over there.
- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3What I find truly hilarious is that this article, clearly biased and miss leading in its blatant omission of key facts, like the news producers who quit were in Jordan and had ties to Al Jazera,,, that such clear eyed fair commentary as this, is used to bash Fox as being biased....
And you can't see your own hypocrisy,,,- josho, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7You have about a hundred posts on this thread. Leave it the ***** alone and go troll somewhere else. You're not going to accomplish anything, no one is going to do anything but mod you down, and you're just going to be wasting your time.
You're not doing anyone you support a favor by appearing to be a rabid flaming troll. Why don't you exercise some maturity and be better than the rest of the 15 year olds by being able to just walk away? Woosa, yo. Woosa. - kas451, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Ties to Al Jazeera" This is a news company run out of Qatar, not ***** al Queda. Ties?!? No, they had work experience there. So don't play semantics and speak of it as anything more than a news company.
- josho, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7You have about a hundred posts on this thread. Leave it the ***** alone and go troll somewhere else. You're not going to accomplish anything, no one is going to do anything but mod you down, and you're just going to be wasting your time.
- morrabrod, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2So a large organization has a disgruntled employee who quits and says bad things about the organization. Why is this news? Maybe they really are evil incarnate. Maybe they're all wonderful and generous philanthropists. Either way, if they're big enough, they're going to have such disgruntled employees. So what's the big deal about this one?
- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2The big deal is a lot of DIGGERS disklike FOX to say the least.
- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2The big deal is a lot of DIGGERS disklike FOX to say the least.
- PradaPete, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4see it positively - without Fox, we never would have gotten The Colbert Report, which is a very funny show.
- mywindow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Al-Jazeera Never Makes The False Claim: Fair and Balanced?
There position is obviouse. - gamekid, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Dugg for title.
Someday FOX News will finally resign from TV too.- bcismar, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Not while they out class all the other sNEWS programs combined.
- scotticus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Marked inaccurate by conservatives in 3... 2... 1...
- RenZ87, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3lol Called it!
- graywolf323, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4why is this under world news?
- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4haha good point i dont know why i posted it here....my bad!
hehe ive never had a story voted this many times my first one over 4 votes!!
THANKS DIGG
- gl00pp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4haha good point i dont know why i posted it here....my bad!
- nocountries, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I read this just to see if someone would accuse the resigning journalists of being terrorists. We got close "ties to Al Jazeera" (that's loaded!!).
What about reading the interview? What other news channel refers to "we" when meaning Israel. I would regard that as deeply offensive, but in the UK, praise God or Allah for his infinite mercy, we don't get Fox News. When one of the UK channels (the main ones being BBC, ITV or Channel 4) refers to Israel as "we", then WE will know UK journalism has met the same fate as that in the US.
I don't know if even Al Jazeera refers to "we" when mentioning Arab forces, but I doubt it. It's a legit TV station with an Arab audience. It's not going to broadcast a load of anti-Arab *****.
They don't even refer to "we" when it's the British fighting, just "British forces". It's called impartiality. This builds something very important, called trust.
God knows, UK journalism could be better, but tens of thousands of our journalists are signed up to the code of conduct agreed by the National Union of Journalists, which helps to protect standards.
Well done to the two resigning FOX journalists, may they be hailed as "trendsetters". -
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