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- michaelpinto, on 11/10/2009, -5/+65The real story here is that the FBI knew this BEFORE the shootings, yet they decided to let it go.
- niradg, on 11/10/2009, -5/+58what's the point of having an intrusive security state if they don't even act on info like this?
- inactive, on 11/10/2009, -10/+36Thanks Political Correctness,God forbid we trade lives for "equality".
- niradg, on 11/10/2009, -4/+29so your argument is: "America: better than Cuba!"
aiming high, are we? - ifruit, on 11/10/2009, -16/+37There would of been an outcry if a Major in the Army who happened to be Muslim was questioned about ties to terrorism. The ACLU would start a *****-storm.
- Charlotte_Web, on 11/10/2009, -5/+24I heard on NPR this morning that some of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's peers are saying that they were afraid of trying to drum him out BECAUSE he was a Muslim, and they were afraid of the PC backlash.
A Muslim in our own Army can't be removed for spouting anti-American sentiment and his opposition to US foreign policy. - Doubledown, on 11/10/2009, -6/+25That is because we were told not to jump to any conclusions....
- ifruit, on 11/10/2009, -23/+42Political Correctness killed those Soldiers at Ft. Hood.
- shutaro, on 11/10/2009, -7/+25He couldn't even toss a few heals the guy's way? Not much of a cleric, if you ask me...
- niradg, on 11/10/2009, -2/+19can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
- xGORDOx, on 11/10/2009, -13/+28So the only people who think this isn't terrorism are the "Progressive" Democrats and their lapdog media pundits?
Seriously. Everyone else knows exactly what this is and doesn't have to invent reasons for it.
Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome by proxy?
Really?
no seriously... really? - JasonCox, on 11/10/2009, -3/+18No they shouldn't because we'd then have to give that option to all other religions so if the military and if one day there was an unpopular war with a majority-Christian nation you'd be looking at 90%+ of the military that would be eligible to drop out under that rule.
- urbanarson, on 11/10/2009, -4/+19Just because the US isn't as much of a police state as Cuba doesn't mean it isn't bad. This is the United States of America damn it, the first Union in human history founded under the umbrella of individual liberty (rights, responsibilities, and freedoms).
The "Intelligence" agencies knew about this months in advance and decided not to act in order to gain more power in controlling us under the guise of protection from evil terrorists. This is going to continue until we as a people decide enough is enough, though I don't know that many of us, myself included, are willing to give our lives for a cause which is all but lost. - oboredone, on 11/10/2009, -16/+30Religion of Peace™
- nvisn, on 11/10/2009, -11/+25Stop ***** saying suspect, alleged etc. There were hundreds of eyewitnesses. HE DID IT!
- Doc123, on 11/10/2009, -6/+19The Army psychiatrist believed to have killed 13 people at Fort Hood warned a roomful of senior Army physicians a year and a half ago that to avoid "adverse events," the military should allow Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors instead of fighting in wars against other Muslims.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - Verchiel77, on 11/10/2009, -0/+13Not too familiar with the justice system, are you?
- PopcornDave, on 11/10/2009, -1/+14Legally, he is a suspect until convicted. If we break with that for this person, then what prevents the powers that be from calling you or I guilty before a trial as well?
I'm with you that he's guilty as ***** unless all these people killed themselves with the guns he apparently had at his disposal but we have to keep to the rule of law, even with those that are despicable because of their actions, lest we get stung by it ourselves. - ProudBlackMan, on 11/10/2009, -14/+27Because if FBI would act up, all the liberals would be up in arms.
- doctechnical, on 11/10/2009, -3/+14It's showmanship. Do you really think that the TSA is taking knitting needles from grandmas because they want to keep you safe? No, they want to keep you *thinking* you're safe. It's all a giant make-believe.
- sangjmoon, on 11/10/2009, -11/+22The problem was and still is that political correctness overwhelmed common sense and prevented drilling down into Hasan before he attacked. There was enough evidence to point to his predilection years ago, but the risk and punishment for those who would accuse him was greater than it was worth.
- xGORDOx, on 11/10/2009, -1/+10Yea, unless they are white guys in Oklahoma and they are blowing up federal buildings.
- ProfessorSYM, on 11/10/2009, -17/+26Proof it was political correctness that prevented the FBI from acting on the information or STFU.
- webadelic, on 11/10/2009, -7/+16if(!reply=="sarcasm"){
you idiot, its not all muslims. Extremists are simply giving the religion as a whole a bad name.
}else{
ignore the above. :-)
} - LokitheComplex, on 11/10/2009, -3/+12Muslims should only kill non Muslims?
Thats gonna win over people who view them negatively. - oninbonin, on 11/10/2009, -5/+13What's funny is that all of these religions were made up by people to control you and all of you people who practice them are eating a many thousand year old line of *****.
- mrcoderga, on 11/10/2009, -2/+10Americans suspect VP Cheney had ties to torturers.
- DrVic, on 11/10/2009, -5/+13Durka!
- ProfessorSYM, on 11/10/2009, -16/+24Let's run out the Christians too while we are at it.
- ifruit, on 11/10/2009, -6/+14Did the murderer in this case yell Allahu Akbar during the killing? Did he have a history of visiting Islamic extremest websites?
- Doc123, on 11/10/2009, -9/+17Here is Nidal Hasan's PowerPoint presentation about Islam, Muslims, and the military. Note the copious quoting of the Koran; the explanation of the doctrine of abrogation (citing Koran 2:106 and 16:101), which usually Islamic apologists in the West dismiss as an invention of "Islamophobes"; and the explanations of defensive and offensive jihad.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/galle ... - inactive, on 11/10/2009, -8/+15I'm not going to debate whether it was PC that allowed this to happen, but what IS shameful is how Gibbs keeps refusing to call it terrorism and to "let the facts all come out"
I think it is pretty much established the guy was a jihad psychopath with a political agenda. - Pxtl, on 11/10/2009, -1/+8I think people are uncomfortable using the word "terrorism" to describe men who acted alone. People like to imagine terrorists as members of nice, visible radical cults, and not just some guy who read a few nasty blog-posts.
- LokitheComplex, on 11/10/2009, -2/+9I think the zealots say "Ah but those people weren't proper Muslims."
- ubitendo, on 11/10/2009, -8/+15LOL @ people thinking the FBI gives a rat's ass about being PC.
- frequentFlyer, on 11/10/2009, -4/+11*****. It is an all volunteer Army. We do not have a draft, so there can be no "conscientious objectors".
- sgtbutterscotch, on 11/10/2009, -3/+10When has it ever been "ok" to say chink? And it's not pc to ridicule Jews.
- ifruit, on 11/10/2009, -5/+11I know you don't, but this happens to be in the name of religion. This shooter gave clues about his extremism many times.
- AbuQutaita, on 11/10/2009, -3/+9This presentation seems a bit fishy to me. It seems more like a slide deck by Bill O'Reily on Islam.
- If he was such an extremist, you think he'd use "Qur'an" instead of Koran. As a Muslim, I can tell you we love seeing that spelling as much as seeing "Moslem". Same goes for "Islamist" - taking an Arabic word and throwing an English suffix isn't classy.
- Referring to other religions on slide 7 with -ism. We know Jews are called Jews, not Judaism(ists). Again, a bit over the top.
- Slide 14 and devotion... "Koran, prayers, etc." is so unbelievably generic and vague, it seems like an Islamaphobe is trying to kick up a dust storm surrounding Karim Abdul Jabbar being Muslim. He's a balla and prays? Oh noes... to the gallows!
- Slide 17's content seems to be taken off a Islamaphobe's glossary. The concept of abrogation (naskh) is much more complicating than quoting two ayat.
- His utter lack of knowledge comes through again on slide 35, which makes me feel this presentation is from Jihad Watch on "How to Spot a Moslem". There are many kinds of abrogation and the majority opinion (since the time of the Prophet) is that the verses in the subsequent slides are not abrogated.
- Using "Verse of the Sword" to refer to the ayah in Surat At-Tawba is again ridiculous. It's an orientalist term used to refer to 9:05 and a segway to 9:29. Muslims do not use this term as it's seen as a sign of Islamaphobia and ignorance about the religion. Again, the majority opinion is that these verses are not abrogates like he is referring to.
- The Hadith on slide 45 isn't a link to "offensive Islam" at all. It's simply a list of events Muslims believe will happen before the Day of Judgment. From the books I have, there's no explanation from the scholars that "Muslims must do this, this and this..." in order for those events to take place. This link is about as strong as that comic showing the link between Iraq and Al-Qa'ida to be that they both have a Q.
There's more than this, but this are the big things that stood out in my mind as I flipped through that deck. I am a bit suspicious in hearing about his alleged ties to radical clerics. If they were so strong, I'm surprised the FBI didn't swoop-in and grab him from the beginning. Many of my friends and family have been nabbed since 9/11 for simply going to mosques and hanging out together. This deck seems fabricated as well as the stories of him being a highly connected individual with radical imams in the Middle East. To me, it seems like someone's trying to fill the gaps of an already cloudy history so it sings the same tune Fox News headlines do. - Spuy767, on 11/10/2009, -5/+10Political correctness killed these servicemen.
- FairDinkumMate, on 11/10/2009, -7/+12"...a minority group who just happens to be mostly terrorists" - This sort of rhetoric is simply ridiculous!
Obviously the vast majority of Muslims are peace loving people just trying to get by in life. That morons like you think that's it OK to label over a billion people as "mostly terrorists" is a pathetic indictment of some aspects of US culture. - PopcornDave, on 11/10/2009, -2/+7For what? Was the suspect in communication with Obama's ex pastor?
- RealmDown, on 11/10/2009, -1/+6Ad Block Plus --- cntl-shift-k
- richardstaboner, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5It's a space station
- solecize, on 11/10/2009, -6/+11He could have been yelling in the name of Jesus.
Everyone is so quick to point to Jeremiah Wright all the time as being a terrorist- well he also claims he is Christian. Are all Christians responsible for Jeremiah Wright? Are all Jews responsible for Woody Allen?
Where is the terrorist cell that he was part of- where is the Texas Jihad or other organization that has claimed responsibility?
This is just a sad crazy wretch that went postal. - oninbonin, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5***Is low on health***
- iRoman1337, on 11/10/2009, -2/+7There's a bad moon on the rise.
- roddack, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5That's no moon
- theenmachine, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4Unfortunately, I can vouch lioozher's metaphor is parallel to common (though not universal, thank god) sentiment throughout Iowa, especially as degrees of separation from national guardsmen decreases. The nearer and dearer the fight and greater flat "support the troops", the more common this is. Also great prejudices exist here against "damn Mexicans" (being all Hispanic-looking people). =(
The less educated the people, the more susceptible they are to being propagandized to feel this way. - absurdist, on 11/10/2009, -0/+4There's a bathroom on the right.
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