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FBI Calls Case an 'Honor Killing,' Upsetting Muslim Group

foxnews.com — Almost a year after two teenage girls were found dead -- allegedly executed by their father -- in Texas, the FBI is saying for the first time that the case may have been an 'honor killing' -- and the angering Muslim groups by calling it that.

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Zubata, on 10/14/2008, -1/+11Upset Muslims ??????????? Now that's a new concept.
commnav328, on 10/14/2008, -1/+10Upset the Muslim groups. The dad should be taken directly to Huntsville and strapped in. It was an "honor killing" so what if a bunch of Muslims are upset; we white folks are just a bunch of racist anyway. The Muslims should want to stone him themselves, but no they want to cover it up and call their's a "Religon of Peace."

They still live in the 12th century and they want the world to live there with them
gmarie624, on 10/14/2008, -0/+11Those poor girls. I hope they find the father before he kills anyone else.
DahktaD, on 10/14/2008, -2/+12These two beautiful young girls were MURDERED! Cut the 'Honor Killing' crap! This is exactly what we DON'T want or need in the United States, 'Sharia Law'. That is a muslim concept of brutality and violence against women...that is is THEIR barbaric and depraved form of law...they can keep it in the sand dunes and caves of the middle east, but not HERE! Britain is already losing their civilization to these throwbacks from cro-magnon days and their sharia garbage.
- Zubata, on 10/14/2008, -4/+7You are so right in your observations DahktaD. Many feel Britain is already lost, having been saturated with these barbaric immigrants. In certain instances, Sharia Law (insanity) is now being recognized in British courts. Let's not make the same mistakes here in the US.
  - TheCatsPants, on 10/14/2008, -6/+7"is now being recognized in British courts."
    Only in civil cases, not in criminal law.
    
    "Many feel Britain is already lost, having been saturated with these barbaric immigrants."
    Yeah, 3% of the population is total saturation. You've been reading too much propaganda.
  - Zubata, on 10/14/2008, -8/+5TheCatsPants - If 3% of your body was consumed with cancer, wouldn't you be worried?
    
    Civil vs Criminal courts - so what? It's gained a foothold. Wake up !!!!!!
  - TheCatsPants, on 10/15/2008, -3/+8Wake up to paranoid bigotry and knee-jerk reactions? No thanks.
    
    "TheCatsPants - If 3% of your body was consumed with cancer, wouldn't you be worried?"
    By comparing muslims to cancer I take it that you assume that every muslim in the UK is a militant extremist? You want us to round them all up and put them in internment camps just in case?
    
    "Civil vs Criminal courts - so what?"
    Because it's simply an arbitration between two parties who agree to it, not a mandate for 'honor-killings' or enforcing sharia law on everyone. There has been a similar civil provision for Jews for some time now.
  - norman619, on 10/15/2008, -5/+4I weep for your country. When I first read about the observance of Sharia Law in your country I thought it was a joke. Then you lost the right to decide who can stay in your own country. It must be pretty maddening.
  - Zubata, on 10/15/2008, -4/+3TheCatsPants - just look at what is happening in the world. In this day and age Christians are still being hunted down and murdered. By whom? Musims, the followers of "The Religion of Peace". I see this as a cancer and if you don't, so be it. The militant extremists are being supported by the silence of those who are not.
    
    As for the courts, if you don't see the possible ramifications of opening the door to Sharia law, then there is nothing more I have to say.
    
    Call me paranoid, a bigot, or whatever else you want. I think you're either blind or a Mulsim who objects to me telling it like it is.
  - TheCatsPants, on 10/15/2008, -3/+6I'm commenting on the situation in the UK, not elsewhere. I'm not condoning extremism. Any kind of extremism is dangerous. Personally I think that there should be one law for everyone. I was only correcting you on you statements about sharia law in the UK, and how the UK has 'been lost', which is patently untrue..
  - eir574, on 10/15/2008, -3/+5@TheCatsPants
    
    I'm going to make a wild guess that once the parties agree to binding arbitration under the guiding principle of Islamic law, the arbitrator cannot hand down a decision that, if implemented, would itself violate British law. Is that right?
  - TheCatsPants, on 10/15/2008, -3/+5I'm not sure eir574. All I know is that it can only be applied to civil cases. Anything criminal would still be prosecuted by the law.
  - Zubata, on 10/15/2008, -3/+2CatsPants - you're not "correcting" anything, just expressing a different opinion. What makes you think you're the final authority on anything?
  - TheCatsPants, on 10/16/2008, -0/+3You said sharia law was being recognised in british courts, and I pointed out that it was only in civil cases (between two parties who wished to settle their dispute in such a way), not in criminal court. I was just pointing out that you weren't being accurate. That's all. I don't even agree that such 'sharia courts' should exist.
    
    I'm not a final authority on anything, but seeing as how I live in the UK I think I have a better idea of what it's like here than someone living in the US.
- norman619, on 10/15/2008, -1/+4So you don't want people to know the truth? The REASON behind a murder is what makes some heinous and others manslaughter. If this actually was an honor killing then that makes this murder especially sickening.
4225, on 10/14/2008, -0/+11"Honor" killings are a disgrace - it's murder and should NEVER be tolerated in any country.
thepalineffect, on 10/14/2008, -2/+9Kick all the radicals out.
- kayala, on 10/14/2008, -7/+3You'll be on the first ship out of our country.
  - norman619, on 10/15/2008, -2/+3I'd take him over someone as ignorant as you. Think of the greater good and please don't procreate.
  - kayala, on 10/15/2008, -2/+3I suppose you do have the right to choose whether you'd like a country populated with palindefects, who cannot argue and cannot think for themselves, or a country populated with freethinkers and intelligent human beings.
7papa7, on 10/14/2008, -1/+9Ahh what a religion of peace. No thank you. This vile animal deserves the death penalty. If he want to practice his Baal worship go back to your country of origin. It is time we step down hard on these murderers. He should be executed and his remains put into a coffin filled with pig guts and let every other vile human who agrees with murdering their children know that this will happen to them if they violate American law.
bestshot, on 10/14/2008, -0/+10If Muslims decide to live in another country, in this case the United States, then they MUST leave their bizarre and cruel rituals behind. This man killed his daughters for dating non-Muslim boys...what did he expect from two young women living in an American town? If it is so important to this group of people to have only Muslim associations, then PLEASE don't come to our country wanting the benefits and perks of living here, while harboring contempt for all of us born here...stay with 'like-minded' people who have no regard for life or personal choice in your own areas.
NonLeftistDiggr, on 10/14/2008, -1/+10The american council for whatever relations is still resisting the honor killing label, but what else is new, anyone with a brain can see through that group's BS.
Christianptriot, on 10/14/2008, -0/+8This is EXACTLY what we can expect - and Muslim will DEMAND that they be allowed to keep - when shariah law becomes accepted in US courts.

Islam is NOT a religion of peace.
- norman619, on 10/15/2008, -0/+4Sharia Law will never become accepted in our courts due to an ingenious document we have here called The Constitution.
  
  But I get what you meant so I digg you.
- Christianptriot, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3Judges on many District and Circuit courts have already admitted to using legal precedence and rulings from other countries, including Africa, in making decisions in US courts - how far-fetched is it to think they would turn to sharia law as well?
  - norman619, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2Chris:
    
    In the end all rulings can and will be vetted via the constitution. Especially any ruling dealing with religion based crimes. No ruling can be made which goes against the law of the land which is the Constitution. The few times they are made they get overtrned on appeal.
  - Christianptriot, on 10/15/2008, -0/+2Kelo vs United States
    
    Ruling was AGAINST the homeowner, stating that the government (whether it is city, county, state, federal) had the authority to take private land form an owner and GIVE IT to a developer - who would ultimately profit from the move through development for the economic benefit of the city (urban renewal, inner-city renovation, etc.) - seems to me to go AGAINST the Fourth Amendment.
    
    So far no Appeal, and to whom do you appeal a SCOTUS decision?!?!
skeletonkeeper, on 10/14/2008, -0/+8According to the Koran the other Muslims are also encouraged as well as 'approved' to hide this murdering creep who killed his own children. Any other group would turn him over...and probably in pieces, for killing his own children. The Muslims seem to think this is a good thing. WORLD WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
- 7papa7, on 10/14/2008, -0/+5If any family hides this scumbag they should be charged with accessory to murder and deported immediately and not allowed back into our country.
ProudPagan, on 10/14/2008, -0/+7"He said he worries that terms like "honor killing" may stigmatize the Islamic community."

Well heck, we wouldn't want to "stigmatize the Islamic community" now would we? After all, they probably feel it was the girls' fault anyway. What a bunch of scumbags!
- Zubata, on 10/14/2008, -0/+4Yeah what could possibly paint Muslims in a bad light?
  - bestshot, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3Perhaps what you think of as 'bad light' is actually honesty that's being revealed. How can any culture, or faith, excuse murder...especially in ones own family?? This kind of thinking makes it easy for all people to believe Muslims can be dangerous and quite capable of destroying any life that differs from themselves. If a man can kill his own daughters, why would he think twice about killing someone else's...
  - Zubata, on 10/15/2008, -0/+3bestshot - You're preaching to the choir. The whole basis of Islam is submission. Either submit or be killed as an infidel. Nice huh?
pennhead, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3I'm surprised that he didn't just throw acid in their faces and disfigure them for life.

Oh wait, that's what the guys do if a girl spurns their advances. "I'm sorry I can't go out with you tonight, Ahkmed, but I have to wash my hai... AUUUUGGGGGHHHHH!!!!"
georgiajim, on 10/15/2008, -1/+3Welcome to a view of what Amerika may look like if the liberals are able to get Hussein NObama elected POTUS
georgiajim, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5"Honor killings", There is no honor in taking the life of two young women. These young women were murdered due to a perception. Radical muslim men are cowards. They fight other men from apartment buildings, civilian markets, schools and from behind women's dresses. They cover their faces like they force their women to. (If I were as shameful as these men, I would cover my face also) This man should be hunted like a rabid dog and put down.
- pennhead, on 10/16/2008, -0/+2Whoa now... aren't you portraying rabid dogs a little too negatively here?
  - georgiajim, on 10/16/2008, -0/+2@pennhead - You're right, sorry.
GlobalRoamer, on 10/15/2008, -0/+5Can someone explain to me why everyone seems so shocked when this type of behavior happens? What do you think Islam stands for?

Muhammad forced followers to continue believing, "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him." (Hadith al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, Bk. 84, No. 57)

Jesus never forced followers to continue believing. After Jesus made a difficult saying, "many of his disciples went back and walked no more with him. Then Jesus said to the twelve, 'Will ye also go away?' Then Simon Peter answered him, 'Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life.'" (John 6:31-69)

Jesus taught "forgive those who trespass against you." (Matthew 6:10-15)

Muhammad taught to avenge trespasses against your honor, family or religion.

The Prophet killed an estimated 3,000 including beheading 700 Jews of the Banu Qurayza tribe in Medina, A.D. 627

"The Jews surrendered and the apostle confined them in Medina. … Then the apostle went out to the market … and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. ... There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka'b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them." (Sirat Rasul Allah)

"Narrated Anas bin Malik: 'On the day of the Conquest, the Prophet entered Mecca, wearing a helmet on his head. When he took it off, a man came and said, "Ibn Khatal is clinging to the curtain of the Ka'ba." The Prophet said, "Kill him."'" (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari Vol. 5, Book 59, No. 582)

"Ibn Khatal ... had two slave girls who used to sing for him and for his companions songs full of abuse of the Prophet. The Prophet's instructions specified that the two slave girls should also be killed. … Another (to be killed) was al-Huwayrith Nuqaydh Wahb Qusayy, one of those who used to insult him in Mecca." (Sirat Rasul Allah)

Jesus did not retaliate when violence was committed against him, saying "Father, forgive them." (Luke 23:34)

Muhammad retaliated when violence was committed against him, ordering the death of his enemies.

"Muhammad sent Abdullah to use diplomacy to gain an opportunity to assassinate Sofyan. Abdullah went forth, pretending to be on his Sofyan's side, and when the moment was right, cut off his head. He carried it to Muhammad, who was in the Mosque in Medina. Muhammad was so gratified, he gave the assassin his staff, saying: 'This shall be a token betwixt you and me on the day of resurrection. Verily, few on that day shall have anything to lean upon.'" (Sirat Rasul Allah).

"Ibn Sa'd Tabaqat reported: 'The apostle of Allah entered through Adhakhir into Mecca. … He ordered six men and four women to be killed." (Kitab al-Tabaqat, written by Ibn Sa'd (A.D. 745-845), Vol. 2, p. 168.)

Following Jesus was voluntary, from the inside out.

Following Muhammad could be coerced, from the outside in.

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued." (Sura 9:29)

A martyr in Christian and Jewish thought is one who dies for his faith.

A martyr in Islamic thought is one who dies for his faith while killing infidels.

"Narrated Abu Huraira: 'The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr)."'" (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari, Vol. 1, Bk. 2, No. 35)

Muhammad's teaching on how to treat enemies:

• Infidels are your sworn enemies (Sura 4:101).
• Be ruthless to the infidels (Sura 48:29).
• Make war on the infidels who dwell around you (Sura 9:123, 66:9).
• Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day (Sura 9:29).
• Strike off the heads of infidels in battle (Sura 47:4).
• If someone stops believing in Allah, kill him (al-Bukhari 9:84:57).
• Take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends (Sura 5:51, 60:13).
• Never be a helper to the disbelievers (Sura 28:86).
• Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (Sura 2:191).
• No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel (al-Bukhari 1:3:111).
• The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land (Sura 5:33).

A Bad Tree Bears Bad Fruit

- In April 2008, after Senator Barak Obama visits Kenya, massive riots break out, the democratically elected government is overthrown, Muslim extremists lock 600 Christians in a church and set it on fire. Those escaping the flames are hacked to death by Muslim extremists.
- In December, 2001, a Muslim extremist attempted to detonate a sneaker shoe bomb on a passenger jet.
- September 11, 2001 the men using passenger jets to attack America are Muslim extremists.
- In the year 2000 Muslim Extremists attach the USS Cole
- In 1998 the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim Extremists, killing 212 and wounding thousands
- In 1996 Muslim extremists exploded a truck bomb outside an Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia killing 19 and injuring hundreds more
- In 1995 five Americans were killed in a car bomb explosion by Muslim extremists
- In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim extremists, killing six and injuring thousands
- Also in 1993 Muslim extremists plotted to assassinate former US president George Bush
- In 1988, another passenger jet, Pan Am flight 103 was bombed by Muslim extremists, killing 270 people
- In 1986 Muslim extremists bombed a West Berlin discotheque frequented by US servicemen.
- In 1985, Muslim extremists seized an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Laruro, and murdered Leon Klinghoffer, a sixty-nine-year-old, wheelchair-bound American
- In 1983, Muslim extremists blew up US Marine barracks in Beirut, killing 241 American servicemen
- In 1982, Muslim extremists bombed the US Embassy in Beirut, killing 49 people, including 17 Americans
- In 1979, Muslim extremists stormed the US embassy in Iran and held American embassy staff hostage for 444 days.
- Did you know the word “assassin” comes from a Muslim sect active in the 11th to 13th centuries known as “the Assassins” for their religious practice of murdering infidels?
- 1780’s – Muslim Pirates from Tripoli kill American sailors shipping goods to Europe, talk does no good, until the Marines land.

Not all Muslims are Terrorists but all Terrorists seem to be Muslims

In my opinion, I don't think B. Hussein Obama is a Christian. I don't think he is a Muslim either. There is a long list of Muslim Extremists that Obama hangs with. I wonder what I will be like to have the White House redecorated with a Crescent Moon at the top?
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