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Exclusive: Photos Proving Hezbollah Waging War In Suburbia

news.com.au — These pictures, smuggled from behind Lebanon's battle lines, show that Hezbollah is waging war in residential areas.

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  • mikkaworkscom, on 10/12/2007, -157/+6well, DUH! where else would they be waging war
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    • BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -12/+45Maybe from non-residential areas? You shouldn't spam in your comments, mikkaworkscom.
    • supremo, on 10/12/2007, -73/+19Bloodjunkie:

      Those pictures doesn't show anything. These pictures do! -> http://digg.com/world_news/Disturbing_war_images_from_inside_Lebanon

      You can't wage war against a whole country killing a lot of innocent people going after a minority group. This Lebanon war is insane!
    • BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -9/+44@supremo, the subject of the photos in your submission from 2 days ago are civilian casualties caused by Israel. The subject of these photos is Hezbollah waging war in residential areas. There is a difference.
    • karmatic, on 10/12/2007, -45/+5Whenever I see Hezbollah, I think: He's Balla'

      I'm a balla'

      Shot calla'
    • goat4, on 10/12/2007, -35/+520 inch blades on the impala
    • karmatic, on 10/12/2007, -38/+1So now we have terrorist's going by the alias: He's Balla

      What's next? Yo Mamma? .. which they'd probably spell: Yomameh

      I'ma' Balla', Shot Calla' -> Holla'!!!!
    • zeero, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27^ what the f.. are you idiots talking about. grow up or get off digg.
    • Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -24/+15When the machine gun was invented, the British complained that people stopped lining up in big groups and that it was harder to mow down their enemy as a consequence.

      Whining about Hezbollah dressing in civilian clothing seems to be very much the same kind of thing.

      Sure it makes our job ***** difficult, and sure it's morally reprehensible, but this is war. The people fighting it are going to take every advantage they can get.

      Either we adapt, or we lose. Moaning about their tactics isn't going to help us beat them.
    • jaikar, on 10/12/2007, -28/+9Where are the rockets? I don't see them anywhere!
      Oh wait! That anti-aircraft must be it! Hizbullah terrorist are geniuses!
      An anti-aircraft which bullets change into rockets in mid-air trying to hit Israeli F-16 air-crafts- proudly American made- loaded with high-precision bombs- proudly American made- and also loaded with poor Israeli civilians. :(
      Dugg down as inaccurate.
      Another propaganda tactic from professionals in that field. :)
    • fredsterss, on 10/12/2007, -27/+13as per usual a whole lot of blind pro-israel sentiment. what about the israelis bombing an apartment block this morning? 17 children killed? is this not news worthy? where else do you expect hizbollah to fight from?
    • neko6, on 10/12/2007, -23/+46There is something I really don't understand.

      When Muslims massacared on purpose between 50,000 to half a million Christian civilians in Sudan:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict

      The UN didn't condemn them... But when Israel kills 400 Muslim civilians by accident, the UN tries to condemn them. Could it be that the UN is just Muslim agents?
    • IbnDigg, on 10/12/2007, -10/+14You show your ignorance of the the Darfur conflict. The casualties are not as much christian as Muslim
    • szelij, on 10/12/2007, -7/+18Hezbollah is a guerrilla outfit. Are people surprised that guerrillas use these tactics? When coming up against a military that you can't win conventionally, you must use guerrilla tactics...

    • RenZ87, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7@neko

      I think you need to read your source

      It says both the Janjaweed and Baggara tribes are followers of Islam. So i don't know where you're getting half a million Christians from.
    • BeatnikDude, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5I see No Rockets in these pictures??
      I do not doubt that hezbolah is fighting from within the civilian areas, but as far as the pictures go, where's the beef?
      -BEATNIK
    • raynevandunem, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@RenZ87:

      Yes, the Fur and Bagarra of Darfur are Muslim (actually, they're mostly Sufi, while the Janjaweed and Sudanese government is predominately Sunni). They also happen to be Black (Nilo-Saharan-speaking), while the Arabs in Khartoum are...well...Arab.

      You also forget that Khartoum and Southern Sudan (also predomintately Nilo-Saharan) just ended a 3-decade-long civil war between them last year. So of course the Arab rulers of Sudan are to blame.

      They're also to blame for the situation in Mauritania, in which the Black citizens of that country were violently driven southward to Senegal by the predominately-Arab government.

      Arabs (and other Afro-Asiatics) in Africa have long had a history of racial discrimination and violence against Nilo-Saharan and Niger-Congo-speaking sub-Saharans. They were heavily involved in the slave trade (Trans-Saharan and Trans-Indian, to be exact), long before the first Portuguese navigators had set foot on any particular part of West Africa. They've also successfully whitewashed that history, and have used Islam as a tool for the furthering of their white supremacist agenda on the African continent. Thus, Islamic fundamentalism, just like Christian fundamentalism, holds nothing to the favor of sub-Saharan Africa, neither do its progenitors.

      Europe did # 1 on Africa; Arabia did # 2.
  • supremo, on 10/12/2007, -56/+14Ofc there is a difference. The story you linked to is claiming that those pictures proves Hezbollah is waging war in the suburbs. First of all, the pictures showed doesn't show anything that proves that claim. I find that article questionable.

    The pictures I linked to shows pictures NOT shown by western media for some reason. I think it is important to show that this war is unjustifyable and it is killing hundreds of innocent people.
    • radixxx, on 10/12/2007, -25/+53@supremo

      Hizballah has been doing this to Israeli women and children for 20+ years.
    • BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -16/+49A picture of an anti-aircraft gun being used in a residential area does prove that Hezbollah is waging war in the suburbs.

      And I agree with you about the pictures you submitted. There are more than 1 sides to any war and I don't think anyone should get away with killing civilians.
    • loonquawl42, on 10/12/2007, -20/+12"A picture of an anti-aircraft gun being used in a residential area does prove that Hezbollah is waging war in the suburbs."

      Yes it might -- if it were being used. These simple pictures imply far more than they actually show. We don't actually know where it is or what the context is. I agree that they are trying to sway reader opinion and play on what people want to see, not necessarily what is actually shown.
    • snypa, on 10/12/2007, -15/+10I don't doubt that they are fighting in suburban areas, to whatever extent, or to whatever degree, but those pictures don't show *****, a guy holding an auto on a cliff? The comments on the pictures could be added to pics from a war scene. And the general article is quite bais.
    • sithmat, on 10/12/2007, -16/+21While I do not doubt that Hezbollah is making lovely use of civilian infrastructure to protect themselves from IDF retaliation, this article is less than convincing.

      Three photos does not a conclusion make.

    • LoungeActx, on 10/12/2007, -9/+30These people are cowards hiding behind innocent civilians. I'm sure Israel has no interest in going after civilians, but Hezbollah brings innocent people into the front lines by hiding behind the them.
    • RenZ87, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6@radixx

      I would like to see evidence backing up your claim. That proves that Hezbollah has blatantly and deliberately been terrorizing women and children for 20 + years as so you say. Because I usually find it hard to believe such anonymous statements
    • returnofmalv, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3"These people are cowards hiding behind innocent civilians. I'm sure Israel has no interest in going after civilians, but Hezbollah brings innocent people into the front lines by hiding behind the them."

      So how would you fight a war if you were vastly underpowered and without jets or helicopters? What kind of ***** retards mod this comment up? Hezbollah are vastly underpowered and they are fighting against the 4th largest military force in the world. How does Israel approach these guerilla fighters? By random bombing populated cities filled with civilians.

      Anyone that thinks that Hezbollah are cowards needs to get their head checked. Israel has already decided that killing women and children in exchange for a few Hezbollah guerillas is worth the price. ***** them.
    • Zero82z, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15So we're supposed to sympathize with the terrorists using civilians as cannon fodder because otherwise they'd be wiped out?
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@returnofmalv:

      "So how would you fight a war if you were vastly underpowered and without jets or helicopters? What kind of ***** retards mod this comment up? Hezbollah are vastly underpowered and they are fighting against the 4th largest military force in the world. How does Israel approach these guerilla fighters? By random bombing populated cities filled with civilians."

      I wouldn't start a war with an army that is vastly superior, for one. How does Hezbollah start the war? By firing rockets into Israel's civilian population. At that point, as far as I'm concerned, the gloves are off. Apparently, Hezbollah is not required to abide by any civilized rules of war, why should Israel be held to a higher standard?

      "Anyone that thinks that Hezbollah are cowards needs to get their head checked. Israel has already decided that killing women and children in exchange for a few Hezbollah guerillas is worth the price. ***** them."

      Anyone who hides in populated neighborhoods, firing missiles into other populated neighborhoods, intentionally drawing fire onto innocent populations ARE cowards. There is no other description. Hezbollah decided that getting Lebanese women and children killed was a small price to pay in order to drum up support, money and more arms from Syria, Iran and other Muslim countries. The aggressor chooses the battle and the battlefield, they just weren't expecting Israel to react quite so furiously. Stupid miscalculation, and, a definite "***** you" from Israel.
    • snypa, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Typical Pro Israel sentiment as usual on digg, it really gets on my nerves. Anyone who critisizes Israel instantly gets dugg down, usually without a decent enough arguement. I'm not saying to be pro Lebanon, Hezbollah or whatever, but at least know the facts, and look at both sides.
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@Snypa:

      There is no "pro Israel bias" on Digg. There is however, a bias against those who, without warning fire missiles into civilian populations. That is the biggest stumbling block the jihadists have. Instead of filing grievances through appropriate diplomatic channels, they take matters into their own hands and kill innocent civilians randomly (see WTC). No population deserves this. There is no historical justification for it.

      If there is an issue with Israel or any other world government, the matter should be taken up with the offended party's OWN government. The offended party's government should then take it up with the UN who would address it appropriately. IF the offended party's government fails to address the issue, then the matter should be taken up with THAT government not the civilians in the offending nation. If Hezbollah and Hamas leaders are not addressing issues that the population of their countries feel is imperative, then the failure is with THEIR government.

      Most people in the "west" maintain a live and let live policy on the world. It would be the path of least resistance for the US to adopt a hands-off policy toward Israel, if they were perceived as not operating within their legal rights. When they are attacked without warning by entities who are not recognized representatives of any government, it is hard to view the situation otherwise. No amount of spin or propaganda will change this. You can show all the horrible dead-baby photos you want and it will still be perceived by most to be the fault of the aggressors, here, the ones who fired first. Taking hostages to gain political or financial advantage while apparently acceptable or common in the Middle
      East, is considered a reprehensible and cowardly act to the rest of the world. A cultural, tribal behavior that was lost to us a thousand years ago.

      Hezbollah is not the recognized representative of the Lebanon government and therefore, no matter what the reason, any actions undertaken by them will be viewed as illegal by the rest of the world. This doesn't mean we don't sympathize with the Lebanese people and this doesn't excuse the Lebanese people from inactivity by allowing Hezbollah to act un-restrained in their population.

      Taking hostages to force the release of prisoners held for terrorist acts against Israel, or for the return of lands taken by Israel due to attacks being carried out from them, does not change things. Placating the jihadists is more and more being recognized as impossible, with few remaining options available. When Israel pulls out of Gaza with the agreement that attacks will cease, the attacks on Israel increase. Israel declares a cease-fire for humanitarian aid to the stricken regions, Hezbollah continues firing missiles. What does this say? Israel is forced to abide by rules of civilized warfare and Hezbollah does not. You can't have it both ways. Either you respect the civilian population of the government you attack OR you suffer the consequences.

      During WWII the Allied Armies would not have considered bombing Germany's civilians until it became apparent that Germany had no similar attitude (which was agreed on at The Hague after WWI) We continued to function under the rules of war outlined by the Geneva convention even though the Japanese clearly did not. When it was discovered just how ruthlessly they had slaughtered Chinese civilians during their occupation and how they had been killing POWs wholesale, we no longer held respect for their civilian populations. It was easy to send a message with nuclear weapons.

      My point is, we (the west) will bicker amongst ourselves about what is right and wrong, until the jihadists push matters too far, then things will change. Walking the line that Hezbollah has been walking, trying to create tragic incidents with which to turn opinion against Israel, can very easily backfire on them with overwhelmingly negative results. In other words, they need to quit while they can and stop when Israel stops. It doesn't help their case any when they keep up aggression. It looks like they have another agenda beside "defense."
  • timewarrior, on 10/12/2007, -18/+18The photos may also be interpreted as the Hezbollah attempting to shoot down the Israeli bombers.

    Link to an interesting article on what the Lebanese think of the Hezbollah
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1831945,00.html
    • BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Yeah this could easily lead to a which came first: chicken vs. egg argument.
    • bshniper, on 10/12/2007, -4/+43If Hizbollah's only goal was to shoot down the bombers to protect Lebanese civilians, wouldn't it make sense to place the aa guns in fields so those civilians are protected against strikes on AA guns?

      Of course. So what does that mean?
    • Parasocks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4What kind of sentiment did they expect to find at an anti-war rally?
    • idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -11/+0Or maybe place the AA guns near the places where the planes are dropping bombs.

      Like the residential areas.
    • monolith, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Or not fire missiles as well as AA from populated civilian areas.
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It would make sense to put the AA gun in a location where you would have long-range peripheral angles to aim and shoot at incoming aircraft. In that position you would have very little time to shoot at an aircraft passing over that street. You just don't put AA guns in trenches, which is exactly what that street becomes. Unless of course, you were placing it so it would be hit and get maximum collateral damage.
  • crazyjeff0, on 10/12/2007, -22/+7These images are trying to sway the viewer's opinion one way or the other. The fact is, this is happening all over the world and is perpetuated by all sides of the conflicts. You cannot point a finger without pointing it at yourself. The only way that this can be eradicated is worldwide pacifism. We who practice it would rather die than continue the cycle of violence and hate. I hope that people can see the err or their ways and practice universal pacifism, not blaming one side or the other.
    • bshniper, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2I just modded you down. Respond in a non-violent manner, please.
    • greenamp, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29The pictures don't really show anything definitive. That being said, it is radical Muslim militantism 101 to wage war from behind civilians, and when attacked make a media spectacle about the innocents killed.

      It's a very sad state of affairs, b/c the other side of the conflict is damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

      What would the United States do if a militant group based used the shelter of Mexico City to lob rockets into San Antonio?
    • noliberalbull, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18You may be perhaps the biggest idiot I've ever heard. "The only way that this can be eradicated is worldwide pacifism" may be correct on some absurd level, but it would require one to believe there is no right or wrong, and, whether you know it or not sir, there is.
    • d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7One fact that seems to have been buried rather quickly and effectively is that the official reason that this whole thing supposedly started was supposedly because Hezbollah kidnapped Israeli soldiers. Generally, it is implied that they crossed into Israel and kidnapped them and killed other soldiers in one event. However, the truth is that two Israeli soldiers were captured in southern Lebanon after they crossed into Lebanon and got into a firefight.
      http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html
      This is, by no means, an un-important fact that has been completely "erased" from our consciousness.
    • hadees, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16@d00ley:

      That is pure propaganda.

      Here is a link to an interview with Mahmoud Komati who is the deputy chief of the Hezbollah's political arm.

      http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2236341

      In it he admits they started it by attacking an Israeli military area.

      "The truth is let me say this clearly we didn't even expect (this) response -- that (Israel) would exploit this operation for this big war against us," said Komati.

      He said Hezbollah had expected "the usual, limited response" from Israel after the two soldiers were seized by guerrillas on Israel's side of the border on July 12."

      "Komati said Hezbollah captured the Israeli soldiers from a military area, but charged that Israelis had taken Hezbollah leaders from their homes at night."
    • adriand, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11ok people the war did not *start* when/because some soldiers were kidnapped. that is simply the Precipitating Event. The American revolution did not suddenly explode after the "shot heard around the world". It was many years in the making, we just choose that as the starting event because it is in our nature to see cause/effect relationships. When the cause is too complex, we simply pick the latest, most significant, event as "the one".

      anyone who believes this started over a single, isolated event is just as stupid as those people who believe we went to war with Iraq because of either 9-11/WMD/Osama/etc.
    • hadees, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@adriand:

      I agree. The reason this war started was the build up of rockets by Hezbollah. Although even that is just part of a larger Arab-Israeli conflict.
    • rtonkins, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4worldwide pacifism....You grossly overestimate the capacity of the human race when it comes to basic human insticts. There will never be such a thing.
  • Robotsu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38Very very interesting photos, cool Digg. However I don't think the fact that Hezbollah operated in residential areas was ever in question.
    • jonnyeh, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Now you know that it was, and still is, just read all the comments.
  • noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -18/+4So what if they are waging war from suburbs?

    That does not give any nation the right to raze the suburbs to the ground with aerial bombing. The difference between Hizbollah ans Israel is supposed to be restraint, respect and profesionalism amongst their armed forces. Israel has dropped beneath the level of Hizbollah using the tactics they are using, all they will succeed in is promoting Hizbollah to a new generation of children without parents.

    Israel can voice their anger an frustration like this all they want but while they are busy estroying whole vilages in hopes of getting one Hizbollah militant, Hizbollah is recruiting, growing and becoming more lethal.

    You should know there is a problem when even the idiots in our government are crying foul.
    • vitalyb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22In a war you win by pounding your oponnent.

      Not by being "higher" morally. Or USA was higher morally than Japan when they nuked them?

      This perverted view on war will really get Europe on its knees one day, when they actually try to fight a new psychopath (North Korea? Iran?) with "surgical" blows. Leave surgery to the doctors.
    • noahhoward, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1So you think we shoudl resort to tactics that were use solely because we couldn't make an accurate strike on important targets. After investing billions of dollars in the technological advances since then you are telling me that you are seriously retarded enough to think using 50+ year old tactics are our only way to win this?

      Also, Israel is COMPLETELY MISSING their enemy. They hover at about a 5% success rate!

      It really takes a low class of intelligence or thought to dare justify something like Hiroshima or Nagasaki or the firebombings in Germany and Japan.

      What is stopping Israel from working with the Lebanese government, enact a curfew, put troops on the street, shoot anything that moves after the curfew, or anyone that shoots first. Why would that be less effective than their current strategy where they aren't making any progress an ensuring they will have new enemies for decaes to come?
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@noahhoward:

      By your "logic" Israel would never be able to fire a shot in defense, and therefore, would ultimately lose. Eventually Hezbollah would move into populations closer and closer to TelAviv and Jerusalem, continuing to fire rockets from populated areas.

      They are counting on world opinion and UN pressure to keep Israel from wiping their fanatcal asses out. Remember, Israel did not fire first. The kidnapped Israeli soldiers did not park their Humvees in Israel and walk into Lebanon, they were ambushed IN Israel.

      There is no logical defense for Hezbollah's actions other than an attempt to stage a small conflict in order to attain better standing in the Muslim world. This would get them more money and arms. Unfortunately, it backfired and now they're in a spot. Iran is pissed at them for putting so much attention on them, as they are the major supplier of the rockets (through Syria) that Hezbollah are using.

      So, now, Hezbolla is trying to create an event that will be news worthy enough to turn world opinion against Israel, hence the huge amount of women and children in the basement of that building while rockets were being fired from beside it. It was everything they'd hoped for.
  • MASTERPL, on 10/12/2007, -10/+37It's no secret these terrorist cowards are using civilian homes to hide their operations.
    • anphanax, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36Nice strategy those jerks are using. Fight war in suburbia, ensuring civilian casualties, and then blame it on the other side when the inevitable happens.

      Hezbollah seems to be claiming they care about the Lebanese, and yet here they are, putting them in danger on purpose.
    • returnofmalv, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1"Nice strategy those jerks are using. Fight war in suburbia, ensuring civilian casualties, and then blame it on the other side when the inevitable happens.

      Hezbollah seems to be claiming they care about the Lebanese, and yet here they are, putting them in danger on purpose."

      How else can Hezbollah fight the 4th largest military on Earth? If Israel would attack on foot rather then by air and by tank, they could probably cut down many of those civilian casulties in exchange for more Israeli soldier deaths. Of course the soldiers are worth more to Israel than the Lebanese women and children.
    • thotpoizn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"How else can Hezbollah fight the 4th largest military on Earth? If Israel would attack on foot rather then by air and by tank, they could probably cut down many of those civilian casulties in exchange for more Israeli soldier deaths."

      Hmmm, let me think... How else to fight the 4th largest military on Earth, how ever to do it... OH, HEY! I KNOW! How about... JUST NOT FIGHTING?!?
  • WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -17/+13WOW! An anti-Hezbollah BloodJunkie post?
    OK. Who hacked into his account?
    • BloodJunkie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13LOL, think of it as an anti-war BloodJunkie post ;)
      I hacked my own account. I'm freakin l33t.
  • Parasocks, on 10/12/2007, -18/+4Why are the HIROSHIMA Americans so up in arms over fighting in civilization?

    Are israeli planes hitting targets in the suburbs? Then why shouldn't they shoot them down from there too? Last I checked an anti-aircraft gun on the ground in a city doesn't cause much threat to the city? It's for... Aircraft. In the... Air.

    If you lived in Lebanon, and Israel was shelling you, would you be A> happy or B> unhappy that there is SOMEONE there fighting for your life?
    • greenamp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16You really think 3 guys on an old truck with a rocket launching platform are gonna shoot down an F-15? The trucks shown in the images are for launching katyushas.
    • morbis242, on 10/12/2007, -3/+21The flaw in your logic is that it is not the Lebanese military with the anti-aircraft gun, it's Terrorists. It's for launching rockets into Israel. And their cowardly using innocent civilians as cover.
    • zahid85, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0@morbis

      The Israeli army has told the Lebanese army not to interfere or they will get bombed too. As a result of the vacuum created by the absence of the Lebanese army, Hezbollah is filling in the void left because Israel is forcing the hand of the Lebanese army to not protect Lebanese people in the face of open Israeli bombardment.
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Just to point out another flaw in logic, you can't shoot down aircraft with surface-to-surface missiles. You would need surface-to-air missiles. Those weapons are specifically designed for random targets in populated areas. There are no guidance systems beyond elevation and fuel burn time. These are to demoralize populations.
  • musikal1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15There is so much blame to spread around between all of the factions involved that everyone of them is standing on morally shaky ground. But if the article above is true, it is a travesty that Hezbollah would use the Lebanese people as essentially human shields, making the Israelis have to fire into areas that civilians are taking shelter in.
    • SirYuri, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11i agree. Many are to blame, but I think that using civilians as human shields just to make Israel look bad when they fire back is a horrible tactic that people need to realize... and people need to stop pointing fingers or guns and do some debating with their MOUTHS...

    • GeneralAntilles, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15You don't debate TERRORISTS. It doesn't work that way. Terrorists use what's called bargaining in bad faith, their promises are empty and they always go back on them. The only thing they understand and respect (especially muslim terrorists) is force and more force, and force is the only way to defeat terrorists.
    • Dotnetsky, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13The problem is a lot bigger than just Hez militants convincing Lebanese civilians to let them store their rocket launchers in the bedroom. All over the Arab world a minority of radicaly Mullas, Imams and Sheiks are indoctrinating and brainwashing little 2 years old toddlers to "kill America" and "death to Israel". We got a big fyookin problem here. MUCH bigger than Israel / Lebanon.
    • kdingo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@dotnetsky
      And *that* is what causes this problem between Israel/West and the Muslim world to persist. You have an entire generation of children embracing the idea that Israel is evil, and Bush is Satan. They are repeatedly told this enough that they believe it, that their enemies aren't human, and they are under attack.

      I strongly encourage people to view this movie, for what current events really are: a repetition in history. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614
    • zahid85, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1@Dotnetsky

      These mullah wouldn't be so effective in indoctrinating their message into 2-year-olds had it not been for Israel bombing the 2-year-old's parents, killing them and effectively providing fuel for the mullah's fire. Stop the killing of civilians and the mullahs will loose their power to persuade people.
  • battleangel, on 10/12/2007, -9/+10Rupert Murdoch, waging war in suburbia ...
  • khaled, on 10/12/2007, -17/+5Those images hardly prove anything, nor do they justify isreal bombing civilians.
    http://digg.com/world_news/Israel_air_strike_kills_54_civilians_Yes_that_s_one_strike
    • matrixarchitect, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Ummmm, yes they do prove it as do the videos on YouTube showing Hezbullah firing from civilian residences. You can't expect Israel to choose to sacrifice their own civilians to the rocket attacks from Hezbullah instead of taking out those rockets at the risk of civilian casualties. I remember reading that the fundamental difference between Israel and Hezbullah is essentially that when Israel misses its targets civilians die, but when Hezbullah HITS its targets, civilians die.
  • marxmarv, on 10/12/2007, -17/+5Let us remember that the Herald Sun is owned by the same nutjob that owns Fox News and adjust the hue and saturation accordingly.

    "You supply the pictures, I'll supply the war." -W.R. Hearst
    • greenamp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Yeah I'm sure they hired some mideast actors and staged the pictures too huh?
  • mu1ti, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1These images are trying to sway the viewer's opinion one way or the other. The fact is, this is happening all over the world and is perpetuated by all sides of the conflicts. You cannot point a finger without pointing it at yourself. The only way that this can be eradicated is worldwide pacifism. We who practice it would rather die than continue the cycle of violence and hate. I hope that people can see the err or their ways and practice universal pacifism, not blaming one side or the other.


    I would have to agree crazyjeff^
    a new understanding of pacifism may only come about after 800,000 people are wiped out in an afternoon, unfortunatly

    then maybe they will understad why their ancient gods told them to love each other .

    when a large number leave the planet suddenly, the impact on the human psyche is great ..you could really feel it when the tsunami hit on boxing day

    also when there is a huge poulation of people in turmoil and in fear for their lives and there are many outside of the the middle-east right now

    you can feel it also ... it starts setting the rest of the population of the world on edge....this build up will cause more natural disasters

    we have no idea on just how really connected we are all are in this way.

    So can Christians be the blessed peacmakers in this process?
    it seems not..
    will Jews and Arabs always hate infidels and gentiles ?
    most likely..

    the thing is they will all live in peace
    know it.
  • earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -12/+5Lets us remember which side is asking for the cease fire.
    • Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Last time I checked, neither side was asking for a ceasefire. Both sides are happy to bomb/rocket each other to oblivion and neither really cares how many "enemy" civilians go down with them.
    • earthtoandy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Well, the news says otherwise.

      http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/29/mideast.main/index.html
    • Bioshocker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't know what article you found at that link, but I found one which had the UN calling for a ceasefire. The UN isn't on anyone's side. It's a neutral organization. I didn't see any mention of either Israel or Hezbollah calling for a ceasefire.
    • HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Guh? Hezbollah have already called for a ceasefire.
  • LysanderSpooner, on 10/12/2007, -9/+9'Truth is the first casualty of war,' but I still try to sort things out. I see 8 men beside an antiaircraft gun. I see a building in the background. This proves Hezbollah is waging war in suburbia?? I also see a guy on a hilltop with a machine gun - with a burning town in the valley - again, what exactly does this prove? I don't get it.
    I did find the following article interesting
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/07/28/hezbollah/index_np.html
    I like this article because:
    1. it wasn't a 'picture'
    2. it came from an identified source on the ground in Lebanon
    3. it made a logical argument and verifiable claims that I have yet to see disproved.
    I don't think these pictures 'prove' anything at all
  • dobbes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6"Photos Proving Hezbollah Waging War In Suburbia"
    There was never any doubt about that ...
    they seem to be pretty happy posing and all though, bit staged IMO
  • Norhtdogboy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5for starters that's a A-A gun not a missile unit (20mm I think)
    2 the Pict's prove nothing they are just pic's.
    3 they look more like local Militia the a organized guerrilla army. young boys and old men.only 2 have combat webbing and only one has a uniform.
  • d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3One fact that seems to have been buried rather quickly and effectively is that the official reason that this whole thing supposedly started was supposedly because Hezbollah kidnapped Israeli soldiers. Generally, it is implied that they crossed into Israel and kidnapped them and killed other soldiers in one event. However, the truth is that two Israeli soldiers were captured in southern Lebanon after they crossed into Lebanon and got into a firefight.
    http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/07/12/ap2873051.html
    This is, by no means, an un-important fact that has been completely "erased" from our consciousness.
    • justodd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5The article you linked to doesn't really support the argument your making.

      The way it reads is that there was a clash at the border where the two soldiers were captured. As a result of that, Israeli forces entered Lebanon to get them back.

      The way it's written seems to imply that only after the initial attack on them did Israeli forces enter Lebanon. It implies that they were, as they have claimed all along, the original "victim" in this incident.

      Do you have a better source link on this anywhere?
    • d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@justodd -- The portion of the article that seems to indicate (to me) that it occurred on the Lebanese side of the border is the following:
      "The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon"
      I'm looking for more sources.
    • d00ley, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I found a link with compiled news reports concerning the location of the Israeli soldiers when they were kidnapped/captured.
      http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/review.asp?articleID=278434&commentID=54761
    • justodd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@d00ley - That is a much better link on this, thank you for taking the time to find one and posting it.

      I'm not saying that I believe all of it, but I find it worth consideration just the same.

      I remain skeptical of statements made by all sides in this. But I think that if it is indeed true that the soldiers were not kidnapped in some sort of raid while they were peacefully doing their thing within Israel, but instead were captured during an incursion into Lebanon, then you are right and it does cast a different light on things.

      I see you've already been dugg down on this. Odd.
  • firemillen2, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1hey you mofos,

    i just want to say, $#@#@$% those $@##Q@# $#@ jews!!! they are the cause of it all !

    -mel
  • Thisco, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4"The Herald Sun, a Melbourne tabloid newspaper published by News Limited, a subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation."

    ( http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Herald_Sun )

    Move along now people; nothing to see here but meaningless right-wing propaganda.
  • jonj, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8yet the "innocent civilians" will complain to no end if a precision airstrike happens to blow up the neighborhood where the AA guns are residing :ugh:
    • idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4"Precision" airstrikes aren't supposed to take out entire neighborhoods.
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you put the weapon on or near an apartment building, the munitions don't just direct force at the weapon, when it blows up, everything in the blast radius gets damaged. That is why WE don't put military installations, in combat zones, near civilian villages...DUH!!!
  • mu1ti, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6dig me down
    but you WILL learn to love each other , you religious *****
    Jews and Arabs will learn to coexist and it will become such a shining example
    Christians will want be peacemakers and not war-mongers
    then maybe some of the disproportionality that defines the western industrialized world as the international gangsters that rule the planet will be put in check


    • Rivetgeek, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Yeah the last 3000 YEARS have shown us all that the Arabs and the Jews are destined to become fast friends.

      Get real dude. This fight is older than Jesus. Literally.
    • NoahVail, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Amen.
    • neko6, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6@RivetGeek - What are you talking about?! Islam was only created around 700AD when Mohammed taught the Arabs that killing everyone who annoys you is a great tactic for life (hey, worked for them, they now control about 1/5th of the earth).
    • andylau, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4its not thousands of years old. its only been a issue since 1948 when a bunch of eastern Europeans decided to setup a jewish state. They thought about doing it in madagascar or Palestine.

      They decided to go to palestine hence the current problems.
    • hjarten, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0http://www.deiryassin.org/index1.html
  • mu1ti, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3hey it might take 100years it could take 20 or maybe only 6
    but when peace starts to happen you wont stop it.
  • 4degrees, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2yea, those wonderous pictures make me think suburbia...
  • razorjack, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6Oh gee, they put AA Batteries in a neighborhood where the F-16's are bombing? GASP!!!

    So should the AA batteries be out in open fields where they can be picked off by fox fours from 30 miles away? C'mon folks. These poor bastards are trying to shoot down some of the most advanced aircraft in the world that shoot their ordinance from miles away with 30/50mm manual AA batteries that aren't even radar guided. Laughing my ***** ass off, they might as well be using harsh words to take down the 16's.

    They pose absolutely no threat to Israel's air power. So this is the excuse for killing children? http://fromisraeltolebanon.info/ try again assmonkey.
  • andylau, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5Lets get this clear the first Qana massacre was according to the UN a deliberate targeting of civilians by the Israelis.

    That is that Israelis deliberately shelled a UN compound and killed 100s of civilians on purpose.... and this is the UN saying this.

    Now we have Qana massacre number 2. And the witnesses on the ground say no Hezbollah any where near the building, they are in the hills and mountains. Yet the only place to be hit in the town is the place where all the civilians gather.

    • neko6, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Nobody ever said Israel meant to kill civilians, and sure as hell not non-muslims (they have enough over 1billion around the world who want them all dead, they don't need to offend any more groups).
  • pgoetz, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5One can always tell from the digg scores when the radical zionist nazis have combed over the comments to an article. Anyone even slightly critical of Israel's bombing of civilian populations and Lebanese infrastructure is modded down, every "sand ***** are evil, kill 'em all!" comment is modded up.

    I have a suggestion: if y'all are so pro-Israel, why don't YOU go over there and fight and relieve some poor conscripted Israeli kid who has no interest in any of the BS? What did you say? Like Dick Cheney, you have other priorities? I guess I should have figured as much. Click on, then, oh brave Zionist nazi keyboard warriors!
  • razorjack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2As Yonatan Shapira a Former Captain in the Israeli Air Force Reserves. In 2003 Yonatan initiated the group of Israeli Air Force pilots who refused to fly attack missions on Palestinian territories. He is the co-founder of Combatants for Peace.

    Said: "if I can say just last thing about the Jewish community here in the United States, some people say that instead of worshiping God, the Jewish God, the Jewish community here -- not all of them, but some of them -- are worshiping Israel, and this is very dangerous."

    For a transcript of the interview see : http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/24/1439247
  • SomeJoe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7So if Hezbollah is wearing civilian clothing, how can we possibly gather an accurate count of civilian casualties?

    Taking the gun out of a dead guy's hand would be all that's necessary to add one to the civilian count and subtract one from Hezbollah's.
    • razorjack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2So Isreal is releasing their Hezbollah kill count daily. There are 800+ civilians dead acoording to the international agencies. Does the Isreali bad guy death count approximate the actual death count? I also guess the 35 kids that were slaughtered in Qana were Hezbollah too? I mean, all we have to do is take the plastic ak-47's out of thier little dead cold hands right?

      Man the ability of some folks to avoid synthesizing original thought is perplexing and depressing.
  • BeatnikDude, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I see NO rockets in these pictures, nor even weapons fired?
    Where's the beef?
  • KenMo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Wow, you are all so smart. It's amazing NO ONE listens to you, else these conflicts would never happen.
  • TheElectricFox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0conscripts aren't soldiers, Lebanon.....
  • daroots, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2People just don't understand Arabs....Israelis using it.
  • almir, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2To guy who asks where is a beef ?

    Beef is in fact That Israel feels that public opinion in whole World start to see what barbarian state it is, so jewish cyber soldiers occupied all net to help them win this public opinion war.
    So be prepared for many more "exclusive" zionist propaganda stories :

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-2289232,00.html

    http://www.wujs.org.il/
  • HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Yes, because they would really be operating in non-residential areas with a big red bullseye on it saying "Shoot here". Don't be dumb people, it's a ***** war. You really think undercover police would wear bright red shirts to distinguish themselves from ordinary people?
    • twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4They aren't undercover police, *****. They're an illegal paramilitary fanatical organization. Lebanon HAS an army, and it's not Hezbollah.
  • addicted44, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Come on guys. I do not doubt that Hezbollah wages war from residential areas (anyone has any figures on what percentage of Lebanon is residential? Remember, they are not as huge as the US, and do not have space to waste). However, these pictures show nothing. It is impossible to tell what country they are from. It is impossible to tell if or if not they were staged. Maybe the weapons were being driven elsewhere.

    Again, I dont doubt hezbollah fights from residential areas, but these pictures prove zilch.
  • goodoldharris, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2This article is lame. Nobody on either side doubts that Hezbollah is fighting from within urban areas. And Hezbollah fighters don't have uniforms because they are not a professional army. Other than a few hundred core fighters, there are at most 3 or 4 thousand others with day jobs who fight only when this kind of situation flares up. They're not hiding in the cities, but living in them. And for those who haven't noticed, they have no air force and zero ability to defend against Israel's air power. They'd have to be retards to set up in a field somewhere where Israel could kill them like insects.
    • HPSauce, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Totally agree. The only difference between the two sides is that one wears a uniform. Both groups consist of inhumane sick bastards.
    • valis1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"And for those who haven't noticed, they have no air force and zero ability to defend against Israel's air power. They'd have to be retards to set up in a field somewhere where Israel could kill them like insects."

      Just because they are militarily weak, does not make there methods "legal" or their ideology "just", it only means they are practical experienced terrorists.
  • Modulo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6this is horrifying, I fully agree with the original posters point and demand that we immediately start providing 2 billion dollars a year to Hezzbollah so that they can afford to throw a proper war.
  • omaryak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't think anyone has been saying that Hezbollah hasn't been using residential areas to mount attacks. I think where the crticism has been is that a conventional military campaign to destroy these residential areas will stop the attacks. Not to mention people losing their homes, relatives, lives, etc...
  • eyalfein, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4That's it?
    There have been many images published by other sources, like the missile launcher hidden behind a mosque (and later, a footage of Israeli soldiers manually disabling it).
  • greenamp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Speaking of images, have a look at these:

    http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html
  • Avengelist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Digg: FREE Web 2.0 propaganda machine, for anyone who wants to use it.
  • spinchange, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4i can't believe this is reported as inaccurate.
    as if the pics don't speak for themselves... I haven't read or heard of Hezbollah denying any of this. You may disagree w/ Israel's response, but how can anyone who pretends to care about or follow this story justify and ignore what Hezbollah is doing here too??
  • enkeedou, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is hilarious. I am lebanese and I can assure you that these photos are very old. These photos are from the lebanese civil wars, 17 years ago. I can't believe that you were fooled by this post !
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