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Ex-Gitmo Prisoner Carries Out Suicide Attack in Iraq
msnbc.msn.com — The U.S. military confirmed Wednesday that a former Guantanamo detainee from Kuwait carried out a recent suicide attack in northern Iraq. ... Iraqi security forces were the apparent target.
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- CajunDigg, on 05/07/2008, -6/+19I suuuure wonder how the DiggObama Disciples are going to handle this one? I SUPPOSE they'd say this guy was an "innocent hardworking fella" that was TAUGHT to hate America at Guantanamo. Needless to say the TRUTH is that there are bad people out there, through NO fault of our own, who want to see innocents (preferably Americans) die. Thank goodness we have Guantanamo to get informaiton from these guys before we "let them go about their business".
- anidal, on 05/07/2008, -13/+6Weather this guy was 'bad' before being shipped to Gitmo is open to speculation. Lets look at both cases:
1) If he was wrongfully sent to Gitmo, then it is almost certain that the improper treatment he received there that caused him to snap. Best possible scenario as we avoided any tough questions.
2) If he was an 'evildoer', then the question is more difficult. What you need to answer is this: "Why did he want to see Americans die in the first place?". Obviously Gitmo caused no change in him, and he harbored the same hatred towards the US. Why is the hate there?
You say thank goodness for Guantanamo when its obvious, at least in this case, that it failed to protect Americans (or US policy at least). - Waiting2awake, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2Are you that dense Cajun? Seriously you simply have not been paying attention for the last 7 years.
- anidal, on 05/07/2008, -13/+6Weather this guy was 'bad' before being shipped to Gitmo is open to speculation. Lets look at both cases:
- Ricemanstm, on 05/07/2008, -4/+21He was just misunderstood...nah...maybe he had a bad childhood...nah...it was Bush's fault...now we're getting closer...it was America's fault..that's it! American consumerism and all it's false idolatry that turned Westerners away from the one true faith...ISLAM! Or maybe not. Maybe, maybe just maybe...could it be?....Perhaps...he was...a....shhhhhh....TERRORIST? Holy shiite? Gitmo works! Or at least would have were it not for all the bleeding heart morons out there...
- CaptainAmerica1, on 05/07/2008, -4/+12You forgot to list global warming as one of the reasons... ;-)
- Ricemanstm, on 05/07/2008, -2/+5DOH!
- CaptainAmerica1, on 05/07/2008, -4/+12You forgot to list global warming as one of the reasons... ;-)
- rgranger, on 05/07/2008, -10/+5This article doesn't really prove anything. We all know that America has a lot of bad guys locked up in Gitmo. We also know that they might have some good guys.
It kinda comes down to the question: Is it right to lock up 1 good guy to make sure we get the 5 bad guys?
There are no easy answers in life...- PolishLogic, on 05/07/2008, -5/+7"No easy answers", is right.
It could just as easily be: Is it right to let 5 bad guys just go free just because you don't want to risk the possibility of locking up one guy that might be good?- spearce, on 05/08/2008, -1/+3the question becomes much easier to answer if that 'one good guy' happens to be you or someone you love.
- masterm1nd, on 05/07/2008, -3/+8If you look around the world, it's obvious that the world has decided it is right to lock up bad guys at the risk of locking up a good guy now and then.
1 to 5 is a horrible ratio because it doesn't accurately reflect the real numbers. It's closer to 1 in 100 last I checked. Someone post stats if you have them.
Let me phrase it this way, is it right to let 100 murderers out on the streets than to lock up 1 innocent person? I guess is depends if those murderers murder more people. If you look at the article, apparently they do. - pitlord, on 05/07/2008, -3/+8I'd say the answer to your question is pretty easy.
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For the retarded Obamaphiles among you the correct answer was "yes." Anybody who thinks it is a good idea to let five enemy combatants go free to attack us again just because there might be one innocent person in the mix, deserves be forcibly relocated to live in one of these neighborhoods in the Middle East.
-_- - cygnus2112, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2So we just open up all federal and state prisons and let everyone go, just in case someone's innocent?
I think these guys should get a fair shot at legal proceedings. I think they should be tried and convicted or tried and freed. But don't jump ahead and state that we shouldn't detain or arrest people on the battlefield. Do you prefer execution or killing them instantly to make sure you don't face them again?
Harsh realities. I feel bad for anyone that may be incarcerated because they were just on the wrong side of someone's opinion, but one can hope that the truth will eventually set those who are actually innocent free - if they exist at all. - Waiting2awake, on 05/08/2008, -2/+1If they have committed a crime then lets have an open, public trial.... How about that where all the evidence is presented......
How is that not a reasonable, considering the American legal system, request?- cygnus2112, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1They do have trials. Military tribunals. America has been doing that since America has existed. In every war.
- PolishLogic, on 05/07/2008, -5/+7"No easy answers", is right.
- PolishLogic, on 05/07/2008, -4/+19You mean Gitmo detainees aren't all poor, upstanding, and kind people who are merely being abused and tortured for ***** and giggles by the Bush Administration?
But...but...that goes against everything the media, the extreme left, and a vast number of diggers have said about Gitmo.- masterm1nd, on 05/07/2008, -1/+6If you ever want to be angered, watch the new harald and kumar film.
- Waiting2awake, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1Ahh if they are as bad as you say they are. If they are as dangerous as so many here seem to be frightened of them I would assume a fair, open, public trail would not only be a slam dunk, but also increase the wars popularity while at the same time silencing those that have pointed to the secrecy of it as being evidense of criminal activity.....
And yet that doesn't happen generally....... I wonder why?
- pitlord, on 05/07/2008, -5/+9This story will probably be buried by the Bush hating Obamaphiles who have nothing better to do than spam digg with their racist hatred.
-_- - yellowcakewalk, on 05/07/2008, -18/+5The way to frame the question is "why do these people hate Americans so much"? Maybe it's because America invades and colonizes their countries, kills their families, steals their natural resources, obliterates their historic and cultural heritage, and then captures them and tortures them. That could have something to do with the hostility. Just call it a wild guess.
- CajunDigg, on 05/07/2008, -4/+12Ha Ha Ha. I knew they'd come out to play.
- anidal, on 05/07/2008, -11/+4Ha Ha Ha, I knew you wouldn't have a coherent response.
- Ricemanstm, on 05/07/2008, -2/+10Yours isn't much better.
- anidal, on 05/08/2008, -2/+2Agreed. But I had fun :P
- anidal, on 05/07/2008, -11/+4Ha Ha Ha, I knew you wouldn't have a coherent response.
- cygnus2112, on 05/08/2008, -2/+5How was America doing that to Afghanistan? Or Iraq? In Afghanistan, the CIA helped the Afghan mujahideen expel the Russians and establish their own government - the Arab mujahideen still hated us. In Iraq, Saddam invaded Kuwait - so the world sent him back home. He didn't play nice, so America doctored and played up the reasons to take out a really, really evil dictator (the true kind).
America hasn't colonized anything in a long while. America didn't kill their families before the other guys started killing others' families. As far as natural resources - that's a lie and you know it - America hasn't gained anything from either war. Historic and cultural heritage were obliterated by criminals and the lack of America's commitment to protect them, but do you blame the police if a museum is raided during a disaster? (slippery slope)
Captures and tortures. Yes. That's where it all is, isn't it. I'd have more sympathy, truly, if it weren't less than a handful of terrorists. No one has shown proof otherwise. I don't think we should condone torture and we should certainly prosecute those who have committed acts (like the Abu Ghraib prison guards) ... but come on, it's not like the Nazi concentration camps or Russian gulags like you and your ilk compare it to.
Try to be unbiased. Try to be honest. Try to be fair to all involved. We have a duty to protect and a duty to improve the lives of those we've affected, but most of what you're spewing is partisan ***** and flat-out lies. - lhbaker, on 05/08/2008, -2/+1You're being buried because it's working hours in the US, and Conservative Diggers don't do any actual work. They just Digg all day, looking for stuff to bury.
- cygnus2112, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Considering you just posted things 3-4 hours ago, making it 4am - 5am EST, or 1am - 2am PST.. you're one to talk. I'm heading off for work - which is in my house. Isn't that awesome?
- lhbaker, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1That makes two of us.
- cygnus2112, on 05/09/2008, -0/+2Considering you just posted things 3-4 hours ago, making it 4am - 5am EST, or 1am - 2am PST.. you're one to talk. I'm heading off for work - which is in my house. Isn't that awesome?
- CajunDigg, on 05/07/2008, -4/+12Ha Ha Ha. I knew they'd come out to play.
- Ricemanstm, on 05/07/2008, -2/+12STEALS THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES? Are you kidding me???? Yellowcakewalk are you really that naive? Have you seen Dubai lately? Saudi Arabia? Kuwait? Where do you think they're getting all their money from? If the US is "stealing" their natural resources, why are prices rising so fast here? Are you saying we should have left Saddam in power? Despite a decade of him ignoring the terms of the surrender agreement that HE signed? Despite the fact that Russia, England, France, Germany, and Israel ALL CONFIRMED WMDs? Do you not know of the nuclear reactor the Israeli's took out in Osirak? Pull your head out of your sandy ass and look around. Better yet, try educating yourself before you try to post something intelligent.
- cygnus2112, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2He is also unaware that both America and Iraq have honored ALL oil contracts that existed during Saddam's time in office. The only people who have gained from natural resources from Iraq have been thieves and the insurgency.
Afghanistan? They're just now signing deals to extend the natural gas pipelines? Who's going to benefit? India, China, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan. Yes, America isn't in that list.
- cygnus2112, on 05/08/2008, -1/+2He is also unaware that both America and Iraq have honored ALL oil contracts that existed during Saddam's time in office. The only people who have gained from natural resources from Iraq have been thieves and the insurgency.
- PEMDAS, on 05/08/2008, -0/+2Well. The cat's out of the bag. There are terrorists in Gitmo. We tried forever to trick a small percentage of the United States into thinking we were just picking on innocent civilians for kicks and giggle, but dammit, it sure was easier to find real terrorists when we'd already sent an entire army out looking.
- obliviousfool, on 05/08/2008, -3/+3He was never convicted of any terrorism charges.
Was he a terrorist before he went into Gitmo, or just after he came out?
It makes you wonder, doesn't it?
- cygnus2112, on 05/08/2008, -0/+3Summary of Evidence memo
A Summary of Evidence memo was prepared for Abdallah Salih Ali Al Ajmi's Combatant Status Review Tribunal.[7] The memo listed the following allegations against him:
a. The detainee is a Taliban fighter:
1. The detainee went AWOL from the Kuwaiti military in order to travel to Afghanistan to participate in the Jihad.
2. The detainee was issued an AK-47, ammunition and hand grenades by the Taliban.
b. The detainee participated in military operations against the coalition.
1. The detainee admitted he was in Afghanistan fighting with the Taliban in the Bagram area.
2. The detainee was placed in a defensive position by the Taliban in order to block the Northern Alliance.
3. The detainee admitted spending eight months on the front line at the Aiubi Center, AF.[sic]
4. The detainee admitted engaging in two or three fire fights with the Northern Alliance.
5. The detainee retreated to the Tora Bora region of AF and was later captured as he attempted to escape to Pakistan.- obliviousfool, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2So he was guilty of being in an army?
- Waiting2awake, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2and fighting against the Americans when they were busy illegally invading a country based on made up evidence...
- cygnus2112, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Afghanistan? Um... ok? Yeah, I know you're asleep and all.. but even brain dead is smarter than that.
- cygnus2112, on 05/09/2008, -0/+1Yes, he was captured in Tora Bora with the AQ gang, I'm sure it was because of his time in the Kuwaiti military.
You're the complete opposite of genius.
- Waiting2awake, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2and fighting against the Americans when they were busy illegally invading a country based on made up evidence...
- obliviousfool, on 05/08/2008, -3/+2So he was guilty of being in an army?
- obliviousfool, on 05/08/2008, -3/+3He was never convicted of any terrorism charges.
- lhbaker, on 05/08/2008, -0/+1If he was a terrorist, why did they let him go? If he wasn't a terrorist, why did they detain him? Either way, we ***** up. What a terrific piece of propaganda.
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