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Ex-CIA Man Exposes Hysteria Of Car "Bomb" Terror

prisonplanet.com — Countering the frothing rabid hysteria that is being whipped up by a fervent media in response to three failed car "bomb" attacks in the last few days in the UK, ex-CIA agent Larry Johnson joined Keith Olbermann to underscore the truth behind the madness - that the so-called bombs were primitive at best and would not have killed anybody.

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  • Ogrady, on 10/11/2007, -13/+83Thank you Keith.
    • swiftekho, on 10/11/2007, -14/+7Yeah he says they are primitive, but fact is, it shows that someone is trying and if they did go off you'd see a very big and unwanted response.
      So, lethal, maybe not but if they went off, someone would end up dead from the retaliation.
      • oxdeltaxo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12You shouldn't be worried when someone buys gasoline or propane, be afraid when they buy large amounts of chlorine or fertilizer.
        • miriclaire, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2The agent is *****. A rock can propel through the air from a lawnmower and hit someone in the temple and kill them. I think flying nails might do a little damage. DID HE LOOK INTO HIS MAGIC 8BALL TO COME UP WITH THAT?
          • RTourn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5First off unlike Hollywood movies, Gasoline does not equal explosive. By all accounts (even the people trying to scare you) these guys were retard, they did not understand the concept of an oxidizing agent or knew how to build a detonator. Nails will not fly through the air unless it is attach to an explosive device. (Gasoline does not equal explosive). Take some science classes you will be less scared. I can go on about the propane too, but I'm afraid you already stop reading this.
          • decadre, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Gasoline as a liquid is not even flamable. First day in Auto Tech school, the teacher walks into the room holding a glass full of gasoline. Lights a match and drops it in. Match went out. No flames, no nothing.
      • awasson, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The mercedes had 60 litres of gasoline.
        My Passat has a 70 litre tank...
        It wasn't a bomb. It was a car with a full tank of gas for F%^&s sake.

        The Glasgow attempt was ridiculous. They should have been slapped for being inept and then thrown in jail. I suspect the IRA are peeing themselves because of uncontrollable laughter over such a weak attempt.

        It's a bit like shampoo and toothpaste being banned on aircraft.
    • DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -11/+27Is Kieth the only Reporter in the USA with a brain?
      • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8We Keiths are known for our intelligence.
      • HalFTW, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Only one in the world afaik.
      • jim1977, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Don't speak too soon; that article was a complete hack job, complete with hearsay, opinion and random quotes not attributed to anybody.

        Although the article's true, it is at the same time complete bollocks.
    • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -5/+2Woot its ironic he has the same name as me. So on his behalf, and on the behalf of other Keith's. I gladly say. You're welcome.

      BTW its Keith not Kieth.
    • ISIfunded911, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2He could have done better, like talking of the many previous terrorist alerts/threats/avoided bombings in the past years that were days or weeks later proven to be total fabrications.
      He could also have talked about state-sponsored terrorism: gladio. Or about the man infiltrated by the MI5 who made bombs for the IRA for years.
      He could also have advised you to download stuff on emule about the London Bombings.
    • mikesbaker, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Keith is OK. Its Alex Jones that I have a problem with. I found this ad on his site (the rotate ads so I had to do a screen grab).
      http://bayimg.com/haDpFaaba
      which led to this douchbaggotry:
      http://bayimg.com/hADpGaABA
      http://www.questionsandwhat.com/
      I'd rather be enslaved by reptilian over lords than be submitted to that "New York" play that isn't running anywhere ever.
      • chriskzoo, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1"Could not have killed anybody" - oh, unless they happen to be in the doorway of the airport . ***** liberal douchebags.
    • gonegoogling, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4thank god for prisonplanet
  • earwigjoe, on 10/11/2007, -6/+114I grew up with real bombs in Belfast
    there was never this media hysteria then..
    so why now?
    • sailyn, on 10/11/2007, -8/+34Why, because Mr. Brown has an agenda.
      • Archos, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9No, he doesn't have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VaP1HB7Vew

        Well, maybe he has... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKV0_LzpmHM
        • annaponda, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Gordon Brown has the charisma of a floating turd... he needs all the help he can get and something like this sure does help, it diverts attention, makes him look big and strong...Don't worry citizens Gordon will help us, youre in safe hands with him.
          I recon the crunch will come when the police release the footage...surely they've got loads of proof, after all these cameras are so good, they even spot litter bugs.
          So... what's the bet the footage they do release will be blurry, fuzzy , non discript...but, they will claim it's evidence .
          It will prove nothing, expert that there's another government cover up.
      • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I suppose Mr. Brown put all this together in the 24 hours or so he was in power before it took place?

        Oh snap...
        • eggo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Hasn't he been very critical of the "War on Terror"? I can't help but wonder if this is some effort (not by Brown) to scare the public into perpetuating the war...
      • chris9902, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3You're a douche.
      • williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Either Brown has an agenda or someone wants him not to go wobbly until Bush goes to war with Iran.
    • VIrus9, on 10/11/2007, -4/+44Because the bombs in Belfast weren't being planted by brown people.
      • earwigjoe, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8Good answer but more precisely I would say muslim people... that the MSM want to stigimatise in the west so we can invade them and take the oil...
        Its not exactly rocket science
    • DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Because British petroleum and Halyburton oil were never going to make a potential 30 trillion on oil reserves...
    • Pixelante, on 10/11/2007, -9/+8We have more to lose now. If you got killed 20 years ago, tough luck. No big loss. But to die now means not being able to play World of Warcraft anymore.
    • wilf_brim, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11Because the IRAs bombs were designed for maximum political impact with a minimum of injury and loss of life (for the most part). These are designed for maximum political impact though the maximum loss of life.
      • Yanaran, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Remind me, how many died so far in these attacks? I need to know what's considered "maximum loss of life" so I don't step on any toes when talking about this with people.
    • M3RCINIAN, on 10/11/2007, -5/+27Because we live in a post 9/11 world. Anything related to terrorism is now blown way out of proportion.
      • Jambi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17"Post 9/11 world"...God, that damn phrase has been done to death. You'd think that New York was the only city ever to come under attack and suffer casualties. I was going to school at the time of the attacks, and while I understand the reaction in the immediate wake of such a devastating event, I can't believe that people in general are so horribly stupid as to go along with our political elites' plan of using this as an excuse to erode yet more rights and liberties in this country. This entire generation of politicians (both left and right wing) seem to want to do nothing more than turn the US into Singapore; a corporate paradise where citizens exist to support the ruling political class. Seems to be a trend in the whole Western world, actually. Truly disgusting.
    • 15charmaxwtf, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20The reporter on the BBC was well over dramatic. She was saying about how heroic the bomb squad was because it could have killed hundreds, if not thousands of people. What the hell--even if it was proper explosives and was a threat, have you ever heard of thousands of people in Baghdad being killed with a single car bomb!
      • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -14/+3Congratulations on insinuating sweeping accusations about the British press with an unsourced statement from a random presenter at some point in time on a single 24/7 news channel.

        Keep it up and you could write for Alex Jones.
      • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3Don't mention that the BBC isn't perfect. British people believe that their news sources are 100% unbiased and professional, unlike the media everywhere else in the world. Anything you say to the contrary will be denied.
        • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0What a ridiculous suggestion.

          We all know the BBC are never 100% unbiased (although the rest of the world seem to have one hell of a skewed impression of the BBC and its role in the British media, I might add), we all know the ITN news broadcast on ITV is always a little downmarket and Sky News (courtesy of Murdoch) tend to sensationalise things with their colourful graphics and eternal "BREAKING NEWS" tickers. As for newspapers, every single one has a certain political bias, and I'd like to think that the vast majority of the populace are aware of this fact.

          The BBC is not the only news source in the UK, nobody believes the BBC is entirely impartial in their coverage of news events and nobody will lash out if you mention this fact. Yet more ridiculous are the misinterpretations associated with TV Licensing here in the UK and certain people (of whom I'm sure they know their own identities) extrapolating that to assert that the British government has the corporation wrapped around its finger. They couldn't be more wrong.
          • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Did you not just lash out at 15charmaxwtf for stating that a BBC reporter sensationalized the story? Saying that the car could have killed thousands of people?
  • Cadmium77, on 10/11/2007, -21/+103Drink the Kool Aid my little slaves. Your masters have plans for you that require your complete passive obedience. Don't worry. They'll protect you all from the boogey man, but it will require a temporary cessation of civil liberties. Stay home, watch TV and drink your beer. There's a big game on tonight. Won't that be fun!
    • DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6But don't smoke cigarettes or download pron....
    • rickpdx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Sounds like V for Vendetta isn't that far off the mark...
      • ClassicCon, on 10/11/2007, -13/+3Hahah...I knew you nerds created your perception of reality from dork movies. None of you should have an opinion until you are worth enough to have a will.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Sounds like City 17.. (I just finished Half Life 2 for the first time yesterday.. sorry)
    • Marijuana, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2It was a little long to watch but well worth it for it completely changed my perspective on things. It's not your typical 911=inside job, it goes beyond that. www.zeitgeistmovie.com
    • katanokichaos, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I think the correct words would be, "That's it, kiddies. Drink the water." But either way, really.

      And hey, that game wouldn't be the Cubs vs. the Cardinals, would it?
    • tehpwnrate, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1So ironic that you say this while believing the tripe fed to you by Prison Planet. Either there's a mass conspiracy to trick 99% of America and England, or there's a website that makes blatant lies in order to cater to the 1% (or less) like you, who think the "media" and the "government" are out to get you.

      Tip: Had the bombs gone off, the nails they lined the cars with would have been deadly projectiles. Flaming people and vehicles are no laughing matter, and neither is the idea of a car careening into a populated building. Saying things about how likely it is that they would have gone off is stupid. It's easy to say when no one was killed or when it wasn't you who was standing near them at some point that day.

      Only on Digg would a PrisonPlanet ***** article get dugg up and applauded for heroism while people ignore simple facts about the attack and don't bother to mention the unarmed British police who had to subdue a crazed, smiling jihadist who had lit himself on fire.
  • Kombaiyashii, on 10/11/2007, -10/+119I actually drove right by the second 'bomb' which was found on the way to work...Very few people are buying this story. Terrorists are a group of people that want to install fear into the public; the media are the terrorists in this case. This is a full on assault against our intelligence...
    • earwigjoe, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26It would be great if you were right.... problem is most people(the majority) are sheeple.......
    • Jonty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Anyone with any intelligence should have realised the stuff in there would never have been able to cause anything than a burning car.
  • geekchic, on 10/11/2007, -29/+16I wonder if ex-CIA agent Larry Johnson and Keith Olbermann would be willing to stand next to an exploding gas canister? There is a reason why the fire brigade get worried when these things are in fires - they are quite dangerous.
    • Gingachgooch, on 10/11/2007, -4/+25Its still minuscule in relation Io Iraq which is ignored by the mainstream media
      I think that's the main point... and is that not obvious??
      • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -4/+2Car bombs in Iraq are, sadly, a rather common occurance. They are not "news," per se.

        A flaming car driving into an airport terminal building in Glasgow and two cars being found with makeshift explosive devices in them in Central London does not happen everyday.
    • cquinnd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11"There is a reason why the fire brigade get worried ****when these things are in fires*****"

      Note the emphasis. A gas canister that is already exposed to extreme heat (such as in a fire), is dangerous because the liquid gasoline inside has likely started to turn to vapor, and might have built up pressure if the canister is closed. Vaporized gasoline under pressure can explode if it ignites, which might cause liquid gasoline to splash over a large distance and be ignited itself, resulting in a fireball.

      These canisters (according to the reports) were not in a fire, and (again according to news reports) there was no other form of explosive device with them that might cause the gasoline to either vaporize and explode, or ignite and be spread as burning liquid.

      So these gas canisters in the cars (as reported by the news services and police agencies involved) would be no more dangerous to stand next to than the gas tank of an average car on a hot day. Even if you had a small explosive device in the car as well, it would have caused far less damage than the bus bombs that were strapped onto the London suicide bombers in the earlier attack.
      • asian1, on 10/11/2007, -6/+1Why would you keep thousands of nails with your gas canister?? What would be the purpose of that? Just some random coincidence?
        • cquinnd, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Or somebody thinking that filled gas canisters will explode just like in the movies, without really checking the plan all the way through?
        • DanyWhat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0(Frustration) - this was propane gas, not gasoline!
          The British call gasoline "petrol" instead
    • otheruser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Most gas canisters have safety valves that release the gas at a regular rate when exposed to high heat (explosion). So, you'd see more of a blowtorch effect, not a huge explosion.
    • Jonty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Gas cannisters are very, very strong. Fire crews leave them for a while to cool down as a precaution; they very rarely actually explode, and if what otheruser said is right, they have safety mechanisms for that too. In this case the worst that could happen is the petrol could set on fire, causing everyone to evacuate. If the cannisters did go off, they'd do so completely safely causing at the very worst some nasty damage to the surrounding buildings.
      • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10If they do explode, they're designed to release pressure in a controlled fashion.. i.e. the valve would be the first to go which would cause the gas to erupt from the top very quickly.. but not explode in the way that a bomb would.
  • XR500Final, on 10/11/2007, -18/+8WHAT A BUNCH OF CR***AP.

    A mercedes with 60Litres of Gasoline in it, is simply a fellow packing his own gasoline because he cannot afford to BUY IT.

    The UK government is so out of control it is absolutely pathetic.

    How many of you a couple weeks before May Long Weekend have went out and bought some jerry cans of gasoline so you did not get your raping at the pump.
    • cquinnd, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4I don't know if I would call it a "bunch" of C**P...

      For us Yanks, 60L is over 15 gallons of gas, which seems a bit much to carry as extra fuel (at least for storing in the car overnight). And we don't know if it is standard petrol or diesel. I don't know what the regs are in the UK, but there are some laws in the US about the safe storage of volatile materials, and the owner might also face charges of illegally stockpiling, if they were trying to save on gas from buying it while the prices were low.
  • tony883, on 10/11/2007, -39/+13That video is a load of *****. I literally, logged in to make this comment. The facts being:

    1. London is not a warzone; as would be expected in Northern Ireland a few years ago or Iraq right now.
    2. Innocent people being killed, as opposed to soliders who are putting up a fight in the warzone.
    3. THE CAR HAD THOUSANDS OF NAILS IN IT.
    • Gingachgooch, on 10/11/2007, -8/+21Wake up please...
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Yes, they could have been planning to nail people to trees? ***** I just realised there is a store down the road with MILLIONS of nails. Lots of propane gas bottles and fuel solvents of all kinds. It is also attended by several Middle Eastern looking people. OMG... Do you think I should be afraid of the hardware store?
  • GazeboflossUK, on 10/11/2007, -18/+22"THE CAR HAD THOUSANDS OF NAILS IN IT"

    Did it?

    We are told it did.
    • 15charmaxwtf, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1Could have easily been thousands of nail head shots!
      • gernblansted, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Without high explosives present? That would be a lot of manual labor, and I don't think people would just sit there and let someone hammer a nail into their heads one by one. The media is the terrorist here. A burning car with LP canisters popping just isn't enough to scare people that much and a bunch of burnt nails that would have to be thrown away just isn't scary enough to do the job of instilling fear either.

        Ratings hungry media who don't want you to change the channel, though...
        • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Only if there was a compressor and a nail gun. The fires wouldn't have done *****.
    • M3RCINIAN, on 10/11/2007, -2/+6Must've taken ages to collect all those nails. I wonder if they were just their own nails or if they went door to door asking for other people's nail clippings.
  • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -8/+46Cool video. He identifies yes there is a threat but lets not be alramist. Don't allow Gitmos, don't go down the torture route otherwise you become victims of that which are trying to fight.

    There are still sensationlists running around squealing and spreading panic. Get a grip of yourselves.
    • DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6Not if it gets votes. Then we should all think the roof is falling in and only a freaking politician can save us....
      • ClassicCon, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6You mean like the prophet Al Gore and the Global Warm...er...Climate Change farce? No, no fear mongering there? Also, go look up Fascism in a dictionary, the simple fact you are posting this with no threat to your safety shows you how much of a spoiled child you are trying to create contrived crisis.
  • Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -15/+1*double post*
  • onedeaddj, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37Re: "Innocent people being killed, as opposed to soliders who are putting up a fight in the warzone."

    Erm, last time I checked, the retards in their burning cars couldn't even kill themselves, never mind anyone else.
    • thosnichols, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3I got an idea. Let's stick a few of you idiots in close proximity to one of those cars as it explodes. If they are so harmless then I'm sure you'll live to tell me what an idiot I am.
      • vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11How about you get a choice of standing next to gasoline or a pack of C4.

        Gasoline might ***** you up, but you will most likely be able to walk away due to the fact it isn't a directed energy type of blast.

        C4 on the other hand... Well you won't walk away...

        Even if you survive, you'll be missing a leg or two.
      • diggertigger, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0comon now ladies... please
  • finnorlandkvis, on 10/11/2007, -18/+9Flippin' Digg is censoring everytime I turn around. I HATE Digg. We should find a less Nazi-minded place to post the truth. I tried to write the last two pararaphs of this this article: It states the Agend, but Digg would'nt let me post it.
    • asian1, on 10/11/2007, -7/+8I TOTALLY AGREE! Digg is censoring comments and deleting them, when it finds their political views to be "incorrect". I find this to be outrageous! WTF kind of comment site is this, if they can quietly delete comments at will! Digg is censoring!

      The site where so many people are protesting against "fascism" is itself behaving in a fascist way! That's ridiculous! No credibility from that.
      • annaponda, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1yep,

        Ive put up a comment 3 times now...deleted every time...digg has dug it's own grave
        we all need to migrate to a place where there's freedom of speech
  • alism, on 10/11/2007, -12/+6Like the CIA ever got anything right.
  • finnorlandkvis, on 10/11/2007, -17/+12F Off Digg. I'm sick of your censorship and and allowing the Anti-truth Brigrade to bury anything of substance. You really, really SUCK!
    • ufia, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3I'm instinctively burying as spam all stories coming from prisonplanet, infowars, or jonesreport without even bothering to read it. If I could censor the truthers more efficiently, you bet I would. If only admins could ban those URLs, Digg would become a better place.

      There is plenty of UFO sightings website on the internets for you nutcases living with too many cats to go spout your conspiracy nonsense in each other's faces all day. Truthers should stay off Digg, and leave the smart minds alone, thank you very much. Buried!
      • 1776jedi, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Just like you instinctively call anyone that does not implicitly trust the government or media "tinfoil hats" or "ufo nuts"
        Only the smartest party members can engage in double think.
    • iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5I too am tired of having the troll patrol burying anything that they disagree with.
      Here is one example of a perfectly good submission that was almost ready to post to the front page, but was pulled at the last minute: http://digg.com/politics/Flight_77_Black_Box_Data_Shows_Major_Flaws_in_the_Official_Story. The same group of people are burying any and all submissions regarding this topic - they openly admit to it.
      My suspicion is that other topics questioning government issued stories are meeting similar fates.
      • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5911 truth is not allowed, you should know that. If it is a fact and it challenges the official fairy tale, it will be buried as fast as possible by those who fear most having their delusions challenged. Since MOST facts about 911 tend to challenge them, nothing much gets past as you should know.
  • neiltc13, on 10/11/2007, -20/+6The issue I have with this video is that it is made by an American network. This means that they are ALWAYS trying to make the public fear and lose trust in their Government. I really don't give a damn about how you feel about your own stupid country, but for ***** sake, leave our country out of it. We trust and have faith in our Government to do a good job of defending our people.

    Buried as lame.
    • thirdman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16You have trust and faith in THIS government? Good grief, I was told someone still did but I though you were a myth...
    • Pixelante, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4What does Corgi ***** taste like? You should know.
    • 1776jedi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Like when MI-6 and the SAS would blow stuff up and blame it on the IRA.
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yep I agree. When your government pulls off a false flag they go to great pains to ake it as non-lethal as possible. Luckily they have enough dummies like you to swallow the thin results.
  • proliance, on 10/11/2007, -20/+7These two car bombs fizzled. Do Johnson and Olberman mean that the the group of people who built these car bombs don't have a learning curve? That all car bombs, no matter how many they make will be nothing more than objects of curiosity we should all gather around?

    I suggest Olberman throw himself on the next car bomb to prove his point that they are harmless.
  • DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -7/+4They got 911 Right, so far....sort of...well sorry you are right!
  • Pingspike, on 10/11/2007, -18/+8Right, sure, a flaming jeep being hurled at a building wouldnt kill anyone. I dont care what this muppet says, ANY bomb, big or small, if covered in nails will DAMN SURE kill someone, if not many someones.
    Saying 'no it wont' is just plain damn short sighted and stupid. if he's CIA he should know better. However I'm betting he was only the coffee boy for the real workers. Damn what a tool.
    • otheruser, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Hahaha....

      "Larry C. Johnson is a former intelligence officer of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, where he served for four years, until 1989, when he became deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism, until October 1993.."

      Yeah, he was a real coffee boy. Idiot.
    • milkmage, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12dude.. calm the ***** down. yeah explosives are dangerous.. but patio gas and petrol are NOT the same thing as C4 or semtex. PERIOD.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5My former belief that the average Briton is more rational than the average American is dwindling VERY quickly as I read through these comments.
      • abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0No wonder with their education system being almost as bad as ours compared to the rest of Europe.
  • finnorlandkvis, on 10/11/2007, -12/+8Everyone should start using Reddit> Everyone could have their opinion, (both pro and against) without being buried or dug down (AKA Censored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    Reddit is FAIR and doesn't DISCRIMINATE if you refuse to be a cookie cutter sheeple deadhead!
    • asian1, on 10/11/2007, -8/+3I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I don't know why Digg is removing comments, but I find this to be awful!
      I just tried to Digg you up right now, and the Digg button didn't even work. I dunno WTF is going on here, but totally deleting/erasing comments is totally unacceptable. That fundamentally compromises the credibility of Digg. Nobody with even half a brain would run a site in this way.
    • Gryfft, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8I'm digging you down- you're not being censored, you're being censured. Free speech doesn't mean anybody can bother EVERYBODY, it means everyone has an equal voice. The digg system works on that democratic principle, that by joining our voices, we can make ourselves heard. We digg up people we agree with, utilizing our free speech. We digg down people we disagree with. If EVERYONE disagrees with you, they don't want to hear you, and you have no right to babble on to all of them, because they will not join their voices with yours. This is Digg, my friend. It's the community that is in power here- hell, they couldn't shut us down when we screamed the Number across the internet. Attack the site design if you want, but leave the community aspect alone. To wit: If you get dugg down, don't whine about it.
    • thirdman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.

      Hubert H. Humphrey
    • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3you do know that you can choose to view it or not if it is below viewing threshold.
    • DanyWhat, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Actually, I tend to read the buried comments even more. They are usually more interesting.
  • heliox, on 10/11/2007, -19/+10Yeah..because an EX-cia man and the dick called Olbermann are really in the loop.
    • greg88, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1yea you didnt know, Keith used to work at ESPN. He has the best sources in the entire news world
  • DestroyFascism, on 10/11/2007, -14/+32Kieth Olberman is the only reporter to have a brain and a sense of decency...O'RLY is retard...
    • ClassicCon, on 10/11/2007, -7/+7Hey fool, he is not a reporter. Editorial entertainment. Counterpoint to O'RLY but with one tenth the viewers. Thought you ultra-intelligent libs knew everything. By the way I don't liten to either...I don't even have cable.
    • BTexas108, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I can't stand to watch any news anymore... It's either all about the war/politics or about some celebrity drunk or going to jail.... The only thing I do watch on occasion is The Daily Show... and even that is just for the comedy....
  • EdGallagher, on 10/11/2007, -26/+21Tell you what you American moron - try standing beside a burning car full of gas canisters and petrol and nails and see how freaking smug you feel. Buried as complete and utter crap.
    • vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -7/+5Would you rather stand next to a a car with gasoline and nails or a man a man with C4 suicide belt lined with ball bearings.

      If you want to deal with terrorism, deal like the Israelis do. Don't freak out and deal with it by targeting the terrorists directly and not passing stupid legislation in hopes it will magically make them go away by revoking civil liberties of your citizens.

      Passing laws and being "alert" won't prevent future attacks. You have to take more direct routes... Either this means pulling out of unwindable conflicts (like leaving Gaza) or sending tanks in and finding those responsible who have already broke the laws on the books.
      • kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9I was 3 blocks away from that suicide bomb attack in Ankara. I'm American. Of course I was nervous, but I'm a pretty calm person. I grew up in a bad area so violence such as shootings don't make me panic. I was at the YMCA downtown when I was a kid during the OKC memorial bombing. The building shook and glass went flying all over the place. I remember this because I have a scar on my shoulder from where the debris hit me. Stuff like this happens. Most Americans are afraid of their own shadow. Very few are willing to leave the country to see the world. BTW stay away from pigs. They can kill you.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6Wow I'm surprised you were dugg up for being an *****. It's not like they would willfully stand next to a burning trash can. They were just explaining that it would not cause the mass carnage that the media and public seem to conjure up with the scenario. The mass hysteria is completely unnecessary and only achieves the goal that terrorists seek to bring upon society -- terror and attention.

      Plus the added comment about "American moron" just shows what a ***** prick you are. Sad that people actually agree with your comment enough to digg you to +6. If someone were to call another a "British retard" or something similar, he'd be buried to oblivion, so let's not set double-standards.
    • heliox, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3I would have liked to agree with you EdG, but "American moron" spoiled it.
      • EdGallagher, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Well Heliox this guy is a moron and he is American so it kind of goes together - don't worry if he had been Canadian or Russian or even Mexican then he would have been a Canadian Moron, Russian Moron or even a Mexican Moron. Think we can agree he is a moron though :-)
        • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Besides which, American Moron is a distinct and recognised species.
  • 1jaxstate1, on 10/11/2007, -8/+7So what that it wouldn't have killed anyone. I'm sure having nails in your ass would really ***** up your day.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I think that was part of the point.. it wouldn't have worked. The nails would be going anywhere except ***** up a nice car. No nails or shrapnel would be entering anyone's body except maybe the body of the car if they're lucky.
      • Terr01, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Not to mention, wasn't one of them parked in an underground parking garage? I mean, shrapnel is for where you have an open-air detonation and it can actually travel and hit soft squishy things. Trying to use nails-as-shrapnel in a concrete enclosed area with parked metal barriers (other cars) wouldn't work too well. I mean, how many people hang around those places anyway? If the objective was structural damage, then why bother with nails?
        • kinglenster, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3The car was towed to the underground car park because it was illegally parked.
  • wilf_brim, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23The people behind these attempts were clearly amateurs, the B or C team at best. They received little, if any, training. Their planning was poor, execution worse. That doesn't mean they didn't have intent (they probably did), and the threat can't be completely ignored. Even a n00b gets lucky once in a while.
    • blimpmaster, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0That's because the A team is either dead or incarcerated in Guantanamo.

      That leaves The Three Stooges of Glasgow...
  • ClassicCon, on 10/11/2007, -23/+7Hahahah...you little children libs never cease to amaze. You are right, there is no islamofascist threat, it is all media hype created by the evil Cheney Cabal.

    I know you idiots are so sure 911 was an inside job but are having problems refuting it even with your high school dropout leading the charge. But this? Easy. How about all you liberal nerds recreate this non-lethal setup, actually stand in a circle around the car then light it off? That should prove if it is lethal or not? No? No?

    ***** childish douche bags. I pray for another civil war in this country...pray hard...
    • thirdman, on 10/11/2007, -7/+7Yes, that's what religion is for, praying that people die just because you can't sustain a reasoned political argument.
    • MewTwo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4Only like 4 people on here believe 911 was an inside job. And you're a dumbass for praying for Civil War. You think things are that bad in this country?
    • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Don't worry, they'll grow out of it eventually.

      It's just a shame the Internet provides them with a voice in the meantime.
  • samdu, on 10/11/2007, -13/+19I find it very difficult to believe that the bombs "wouldn't have killed anybody." It's one thing to keep hysteria in check. It's another thing completely to swing too far in the other direction.
    • vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -5/+6Well... To be fair, drunk drivers will kill more people this month than the theoretical maximum of these attacks.
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4This was never seriously intended to do more than look like an attempt.
      Anyone stupid enough to believe this could ever have hurt a soul, is already accepting the official line without question anyway.

      This was even less danger than this guy in the video is saying. Such gas canisters have a safety valve device. I have seen even large gas bottles of Propane and LPG on bonfires and the vavle simply periodically releases a jet of fire. NOTHING more will happen. Sure the people involved could have stopped the safety valve somehow, but that much planning or knowlegde is not remotely evident either. This has got to be the lamest excuse for a terrorist attack ever devised.

      It was not even a car bomb in theory. The gas bottles would not even have exploded anyway. The safety release valve on cylnders in fires just releases gass causing a gas jet then as pressure drops it stops. This it wopuld have done periodically untill the gas flask was empty. Rarely do they explode even when the valave is blocked or faulty. Then the thread lets go the whole vavle piece before the metal jacket lets go. If the jacket of the cannister does fail, it is not as shrapnel, maybe a single piece or two.

      It just is not scary and you are a ninny if you are.. People face much more serious dangers in accidents at all manner of work places. From welding/metal workshops to foundrys. Get over it.
  • swicepick, on 10/11/2007, -15/+16Go ahead and call me a tool for giving in to "the man," but I would rather believe the interviews with the London policemen about the potential lethality for this bomb, rather than some guy who didn't even investigate the scene. I do respect Keith Olberman, and I think he's a good journalist. But I don't think that you can just add this up to some sort of government scare tactic to manipulate the public.
    • piradians, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9It's the same London police force that followed a Brazilian electrician from his house all the way to an underground train before tackling and shooting him multiple times because they thought he was a terrorist, and then tried to cover it all up. I don't think it's unreasonable to distrust anything they say actually.
      • kinglenster, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2If it comes to stopping terrorists maiming and killing people on crowded subway trains, then shoot-to-kill is the only policy, just ask Israelis. The guy was believed to be a suicide bomber and it was only days after 50 odd people had been killed in the same way, and the day after 4 others tried the same thing.
    • digid, on 10/11/2007, -5/+1he's no journalist. He's a washed up sportscaster
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3You would believe any old ***** then. This was never seriously intended to do more than look like an attempt.
      Anyone stupid enough to believe this could ever have hurt a soul, is already accepting the official line without question anyway.

      This was even less danger than this guy in the video is saying. Such gas canisters have a safety valve device. I have seen even large gas bottles of Propane and LPG on bonfires and the vavle simply periodically releases a jet of fire. NOTHING more will happen. Sure the people involved could have stopped the safety valve somehow, but that much planning or knowlegde is not remotely evident either. This has got to be the lamest excuse for a terrorist attack ever devised.

      It was not even a car bomb in theory. The gas bottles would not even have exploded anyway. The safety release valve on cylnders in fires just releases gass causing a gas jet then as pressure drops it stops. This it wopuld have done periodically untill the gas flask was empty. Rarely do they explode even when the valave is blocked or faulty. Then the thread lets go the whole vavle piece before the metal jacket lets go. If the jacket of the cannister does fail, it is not as shrapnel, maybe a single piece or two.

      It just is not scary and you are a ninny if you are.. People face much more serious dangers in accidents at all manner of work places. From welding/metal workshops to foundrys. Get over it.
  • BenjAii, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18It will be interesting when we find out the who's and why's behind these attacks. Yes, they were extremely ineffective (even if they had gone off) compared to what the insurgents in Iraq or any experienced terrorist group e.g. IRA/ETA are capable of. My guess they will be isolated elements operating on their own and they are obviously not very good at what they intended to do. Both the London bombs were on the route of saturday's gay pride march - I wonder was that related ?

    The hype though is mainly down to the British newspapers. Those of us who live in the UK know it doesn't take much for them to get completely hysterical. One example - fridays London Evening Standard - has the headline 'Bomb to kill 1700' - based on no more than the premise that the nightclub TigerTiger had a max capacity (when full, no mention if it was at 2 on thurs night) of 1700. Such sloppy journalistic standards are regrettably common here. Hence, journalists are regularly ranked with estate agents at the bottom of the scale for honestly & public trust when it comes to surveys ....
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2That's an interesting comment about the gay pride parade.. I had no idea that was happening there. I think that makes sense.. that would explain why they didn't set it off before the police came.. they were waiting for the parade to start perhaps.
  • tunapez, on 10/11/2007, -5/+8Then, for shock & awe effect, the bobbleheads throw out "binary explosive" attacks have been thwarted on planes headed for the US, again. Excellent timing for effect! Anyone contemplate how "easy" it is to make a bomb in a plane bathroom sufficient to do anything more than burn the idiot w/ the beaker?

    Separate fact from fiction and the news becomes funnier than those guys on Comedy Central. Funny it is, until you realize the evil-doers are the clowns in office lamenting the evil-doers.
    • cheesehead, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The evil doers are the ones who fund and pull the strings of the clowns in office lamenting the evildoers.
    • abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0"Excellent timing for effect! Anyone contemplate how "easy" it is to make a bomb in a plane bathroom sufficient to do anything more than burn the idiot w/ the beaker?"

      65% H202 mixed with Aluminum powder in the right proportions can achieve ~650m/s detonation velocity, I am sure that is enough to punch a decent size hole through a few millimeters of aluminum.
      • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2How are you going to get that aluminium powder past the metal detectors?
  • designpunk, on 10/11/2007, -13/+14The CIA man really has no idea what he is on about - he keeps repeating the question "If they could afford a Mercedes why couldn't they afford to make a proper bomb?" - the answer to that is that they hired the Merc from a place in Scotland - why anyone, let a lone a CIA operative would jump to the assumption that these guys would go out and buy a car is beyond me - surely stealing it would be more logical?

    And he is CIA? That is a concern...

    He also questions (repetitiously) why there is so much media attention to 3 failed car bombs in London & Scotland whilst car bombs in Baghdad get no mention - well the simple answer to that would be that one is a war zone the other isn't so it's kind of out of place in the centre of London.
  • caution, on 10/11/2007, -6/+20young guy: "Ha. Can you believe this, they are shooting arrows at helicopters. How do they expect to win?"
    old guy: "That's the problem, how can you beat someone who is willing to shoot arrows at helicopters."

    All the stupid media coverage aside, the core issue is the fact that there seems to be no shortage of muslims who will perform acts such as the ones in the UK in order to "make it to paradise."

    Laugh at them all you want, but they'll keep trying. As for the media hype, as long as it's consumed, it will be produced.
    • abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"there seems to be no shortage of muslims who will perform acts such as the ones in the UK in order to "make it to paradise."
      "

      Boy are they in for a big surprise on judgement day then. Suicide is never permissible in Islam, and killing innocents definitely strikes them off the list of those entering paradise.
  • Sharky35, on 10/11/2007, -16/+19Seeing as the average Digger is 12 years old. Anyone who disagrees with this article will be buried.
  • gilbertj99, on 10/11/2007, -11/+2The english are crap at everything, even terrorism, they cant even make a bomb go off
    lmao
    • cactusmcdougal, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3Remember, remember, the fifth of november...
      • JohnP, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1cactusmcdougal - What exactly do you think that means? You need a history lesson.
    • Buckiller, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2They're very good at rock and roll
  • avnerlevit, on 10/11/2007, -16/+7lethal or not. The incident was powerful enough to be related to terrorism and any kind of terrorism has to be dealt with seriously.
    • 15charmaxwtf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11"Seriously." The media (and other agencies) did not deal with this seriously, they blew it out of proportion.
      • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Have you actually seen the media coverage?

        I don't know about you, but I live in the UK and I was practically glued (at my own accord) to the television yesterday watching all the major news channels. All of them were reporting the facts, and nothing but the facts. Sky News overstepped the mark a little when they reported on rumours of a suicide belt, but they turned out to be correct. The news channels went over a lot of eyewitness reports, and a lot of time was spent trying to piece everything together, but by no means were they blowing anything out of proportion.

        If a flaming car with two men inside hell-bent on killing themselves and those around them crashing into a terminal building at Glasgow airport 24 hours after two make-shift car bombs were discovered in central London doesn't deserve half a days worth of rolling news coverage, I don't know what does...
    • gottadiggit, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10"any kind of terrorism" So does that work both ways? If you were an Iraqi Citizen who just saw their family die would you be allowed to view those responsible as terrorists? Or do you only veiw life from your side of the fence?
      • avnerlevit, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0Come to Israel and I will receive you at the airport and walk you around the places where terrorists have blown themselves up, killing innocent civilians. You will get firsthand experience of what life is really like on "my side of the fence".

        Your argument makes no pragmatic approach and saying that If i were Iraqi and had my family killed by insurgents- Of course its terrorism.
        • dftpnkezln, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4Will you take me on a tour of the Palestinian territories to see some other victims of terrorism at the hands of Israeli gunships? I wouldn't want this to be a one-sided view of the effects of terrorism on people.
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2CRAP!
      This was never seriously intended to do more than look like an attempt.
      Anyone stupid enough to believe this could ever have hurt a soul, is already accepting the official line without question anyway.

      This was even less danger than this guy in the video is saying. Such gas canisters have a safety valve device. I have seen even large gas bottles of Propane and LPG on bonfires and the vavle simply periodically releases a jet of fire. NOTHING more will happen. Sure the people involved could have stopped the safety valve somehow, but that much planning or knowlegde is not remotely evident either. This has got to be the lamest excuse for a terrorist attack ever devised.

      It was not even a car bomb in theory. The gas bottles would not even have exploded anyway. The safety release valve on cylnders in fires just releases gass causing a gas jet then as pressure drops it stops. This it wopuld have done periodically untill the gas flask was empty. Rarely do they explode even when the valave is blocked or faulty. Then the thread lets go the whole vavle piece before the metal jacket lets go. If the jacket of the cannister does fail, it is not as shrapnel, maybe a single piece or two.

      It just is not scary and you are a ninny if you are.. People face much more serious dangers in accidents at all manner of work places. From welding/metal workshops to foundrys. Get over it.
  • bernieg1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4The problem is not that there is an over-reaction, but rather that "When the time comes, the UK public will scream that this reaction was too timid, too little, too late." See http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2007/07/not_enough_hysteria.html
  • Yanaran, on 10/11/2007, -9/+17The politics of fear by the UK and US governments have paid off. Two "bombs" that didn't detonate and a burning car at an airport puts an entire country on "high terror alert", with people calling for the heads of Arabs everywhere.

    How many civilians did your coalition of the willing kill today in the middle east?
    • JohnP, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3"with people calling for the heads of Arabs everywhere."

      I dont know about your ***** country, but for the most part muslims are 100% welcome in the UK. Ive probably had an equal number of good muslim friends as christian friends here in the UK.

      The USA is FULL of extremist christians calling for the heads of muslims, while the UK is mostly atheist, so stfu.
    • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1That's one hell of a poor summary you've got, there.

      Are you trying to suggest that the two devices in central London were not potentially viable explosive devices because they didn't detonate? I think you'll find that's because they were made safe by the police bomb squad. Are you trying to suggest that a jeep with two men inside, at least one wearing a suicide belt, setting themselves on fire with multiple gas canisters and large amounts of petrol in the car attempting to ram into an airport terminal was just "a burning car at an airport?"

      I'm sorry, but you fail on both accounts. Nice try attempting to rewrite history to support your misinformed agenda, mind you. You could write for Prisonplanet.com :)
      • abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0All they could have hoped to do was start a fire, and perhaps burn a few people to death; it should be dealt with as a terrorist threat, but if it is the best thing these terrorists can come up with, I would much rather worry about some drunk driver running me over than dying in one of those attacks.
  • understudy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13But you're supposed to be afraid! Be very afraid! All of the grand plans they have for you can't happen unless you're scared enough to allow them to.

    _

    • Azzitizz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Wow! My thoughts entirely! We will all now stomp about shouting 'something must be done!' and surprise, surprise, they will come up with a (pre-planned) solution, which, previously we would have all screamed 'NO!' at, but now will accept with open arms!!!!
  • LakeshoreBaby, on 10/11/2007, -7/+11Islamo-fascist. Somehow that combination doesn't make any sense. If they were dying for religion they wouldn't be fascists. The NWO are really stupid when you think about it. The truth is in their own words.
  • johnslater, on 10/11/2007, -12/+8So when its London the Americans say "Who cares", but when its America the entire country ***** its self and people are afraid to go out of the house and any country that doesn't support America gets shunned? seems fair.

    Just goes to show how far America is up its own arse.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Wow. You are so completely deluded I don't know where to start.
  • spawnfree, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6im glad that the Brits have at least some value in human life.
    This panic is all about media hype, i would rather that than a smoking hole where hethrow was.
    They are just gearing up to RFID chip and fleece us all though.
    Nice to know someone has a use for us. /sarcasm
  • namelessuno, on 10/11/2007, -12/+11The British government is behind the bombs. The zionists are behind the Brits and the bankers are behind the zionists.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -6/+3And your mom is in front of them all.
  • rlh1, on 10/11/2007, -3/+12Let me get this straight,
    They fake these terroristic attacks so that they can justify fear and hatred of Arabs? Justify the war in Iraq?
    Create fear in order to control people?

    The majority of the "Terrorists" attacks were carried out by British citizens. The majority were from Pakistani origins.

    Why don't they fake it to make it look like Arabs from Iraq did it?
    • abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Because most whites in these countries cannot discern a pakistani cab driver from a Saudi extremist.
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2My friend above has it right. Exactly because most of the people theye xpect to swallow their propaganda without question, could not tell the difference. Those of us who are more discerning are just not buying any of it anymore, so they just ignore us. There are enough idiots to keep them in power long enough to ***** us all up. Why waste resources trying to convince people who already have enough intelligence and are too informed to be easily swayed by cheap tricks and diversions.
    • UnstableMind, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Because the UK Government doesn't want to go to war, they just want to be shepherds for their sheep. More surveillance, less civil liberties = Domination.
  • wibblewobble, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Just one little point.. here in the UK we use PETROL in our cars, we don't tend to call it gas, the stuff in the cannisters was pressurised butane gas not gasoline. There's a huge difference - especially when it explodes.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3What's your point..?

      It wasn't butane anyway, it was propane.. at least from what I've heard.
  • Lumiras, on 10/11/2007, -14/+10Not able to kill anybody? Umm, I'm pretty sure a car filled with 60 liters of gasoline could kill at least a few people. True, there are much worse things going on in other parts of the world, and the insurgents in Iraq are probably using bigger and more sophisticated devices...but, what's the alternative? Do we just allow bombs to go off in our cities?

    ........oh, wait, I just saw that the article was on Prison Planet....everything's a big conspiracy to them. Polish up your tinfoil hats, boys, because everybody thinks you're ***** idiots
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8Dude.. gasoline doesn't explode. 50 gallons of gas would cause a hot fire if they're lucky, and that's only if there is enough oxygen in the car to allow for any combustion at all. I mean, what's going to start it? A spark wouldn't work, unless vapor/oxygen mix is released first (such as in a combustion engine), simply put, it would most likely have completely failed, and at the worst have created a burning car that I often see on city freeways after car accidents. I think people are intelligent enough to stay away from a burning vehicle.

      Also, it would have to on fire for quite a while before the propane tanks explode. Possibly 20 minutes or more. I'm certain that the area would be cleared before anything could have the chance to explode and injure people. Why doesn't anyone think rationally when these situations arise?
      • Lumiras, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1So....the British authorities should have just let it sit there, just because there's not a great chance of it blowing up?

        I don't know if you ***** idiots understand it, but bombs, no matter how powerful or successful they are, shouldn't be sitting around in major metropolitan areas

        And, as for it not exploding...umm, this video shows 8 liters of gas exploding....hmm, something tells me 60 liters of it in a car would have the potential to do some major damage
        http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7625450706499890889
        True, the bomb in this video had a more reliable detonation device, but the explosion from 8 liters alone caused a pretty massive blast
        • abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0but is mainly all show. Gasoline does not have a high enough detonation velocity to kill people from the shockwave alone(maybe blow out your eardrums though), and definitely doesn't have the power to shoot shrapnel at high enough speeds to cause anyone serious injuries outside of maybe 10 ft.
        • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And they released a ***** of vapor first, which mixed with oxygen, just like I said. You can't do that in a car. It wouldn't explode like that.
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3This was even less danger than this guy in the video is saying. Such gas canisters have a safety valve device. I have seen even large gas bottles of Propane and LPG on bonfires and the vavle simply periodically releases a jet of fire. NOTHING more will happen. Sure the people involved could have stopped the safety valve somehow, but that much planning or knowlegde is not remotely evident either. This has got to be the lamest excuse for a terrorist attack ever devised.

      The gasoline would have done no more than a short soft whump sort of fireball then the carwould eventually, over a couple of hours have burnt down to just a shell. NO explosions. The engine head especially burns well eventually on modern cars. Once in a rare while an almost empty fuel tank will explode at some point but more often than not the fuel tank just ruptures quietly, spilling more fuel under the blaze or even manages to survive intact. I have seen exactly these things happen many times. I have even doused a vehicle in gasoline and had gas flasks set up so that the valves released jets of flame out the windows as they heated up enough for the safety valves to cut in. I am a retired pyrotechnician by the way. This was not in any way a significant threat to anyone until there was plenety of time for police and firemen to get the situation under control. . Nobody would have been anywhere near it by the time they were in any dnager if the urge set upon them to throw themsselves upon the pyre.

      It just is not scary and you are a ninny if you are.. People face much more serious dangers in accidents at all manner of work places. From welding/metal workshops to foundrys. Get over it.
  • Andyschism, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8"Inflammable means flammable? What a country!"
  • reiner15, on 10/11/2007, -7/+14I find it funny that the last couple of weeks Cheney has been under fire for his words and then all of a sudden this happens... which has taken attention away from him... not all, but just enough to make some people forget about it for awhile.
    • iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Right on schedule like so many past distractions.
    • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1It's funny you post this sort of paranoid fantasy in concert with the usual denial that ensues when a device is discovered that potentially threatens public safety.

      Your timing is not surprising at all...........right on cue.

      Keith Olbermann was very wrong about the previoust public threat that was uncovered.......I'm sure his apologist fans have zero clue as well.
      • shackleton1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Strangely enough, the world does not revolve around Washington politics.
  • greg88, on 10/11/2007, -13/+3Keith doesnt know what crack pot theories he can put on the air to get the crazy liberals and anti-government people to watch. Those 2 car bombs would have killed many people if they had been detonated and who knows what would have happened in Belfast if the Jeep had actually gotten into the airport
    • onedeaddj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7It was in Glasgow, not Belfast. Different country. It seems the "crazy anti-government" people are paying a little more attention than you, Sir.
      • greg88, on 10/25/2007, -4/+0my mistake, sorry im not devoured in the story like people who think it was nothing are
        • iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4oops: @ greg887

          I don't think it's a matter of being 'devoured', just "informed".
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2This was never seriously intended to do more than look like an attempt.
      Anyone stupid enough to believe this could ever have hurt a soul, is already accepting the official line without question anyway.
  • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -13/+10You know......marginalizing a car bomb, or a string of car bombs intended to maim innocent people as they go about their daily lives is just as moronic as over sensationalizing it.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7IT WASN'T A CAR BOMB. HOLY *****.

      Anyway, they weren't marginalizing it, they were trying to prevent the mass hysteria and irrational attitude of the public that occurs after every potential attack that is terrorist related.
      • CourtesyFlush, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1I haven't seen any actual mass hysteria, there Einstein.

        I've only seen people trying to claim there is by marginalizing a device.......whatever you'd like to call it is fine with me since you're hung up on the simple term "bomb".......that was designed with harming people in mind and left to detonate.
        • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2It wasn't meant to harm anybody man. This was never seriously intended to do more than look like an attempt. Anyone stupid enough to believe this could ever have hurt a soul, is already accepting the official line without question anyway.
    • Rabbit63, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4It was not even a car bomb in theory. The gas bottles would not even have exploded anyway. The safety release valve on cylnders in fires just releases gass causing a gas jet then as pressure drops it stops. This it wopuld have done periodically untill the gas flask was empty. Rarely do they explode even when the valave is blocked or faulty. Then the thread lets go the whole vavle piece before the metal jacket lets go. If the jacket of the cannister does fail, it is not as shrapnel, maybe a single piece or two.

      It just is not terrifying. People face much more serious dangers in accidents at all manner of work places. From welding/metal workshops to foundrys. Get over it.
      • shackleton1, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1That's what the nails were for.

        Nail bombs are nasty devices. They tend to maim more than kill. IRA used to use them. Also that neo-nazi who blew up gay pubs about 10 years back used them.

        The terrorists were clearly inept. But if they had been successful, yes that would have been bad.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland#Bombings
        • williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Without high explosive there is nothing to propel the nails. The "bomb" was a joke.
  • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2It's a genuine shame this of all websites doesn't crash and burn in hell for all eternity when it hits the front page of Digg.
  • JohnP, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Again, Americans projecting their own media and government shortcoming onto another nation...

    Just because your media sucks, and your government is fueling this situation doesnt mean we ( British ) shouldnt take this ***** seriously..

    If this happened in the US people would be ***** their pants and bombing some small country by now..
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Not sure if you realize it or not but your country is reacting precisely the way America has reacted to terror threats. Why can't you realize that you are making all the same mistakes Americans did? What is with the utter hypocrisy? Can you not see your own media hysteria or do you truly believe that it only occurs "over there" but not in your homeland? This is just too sad for words to see the way all you guys are responding.
      • JohnP, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1 mrASSMAN - You are a perfect example of an american DUMB *****.

        The UK collectively has had more wars on home terf than you could ever imagine, more people have died here than your tiny brain could comprehend. More recently, look at WW2, where bombs fell ON the UK, not thousands of miles away.. Then look at the IRA, and other terrorist attacks in the UK..

        Once youve digested all that you may realize that its YOU fat dumbass yankeedoodle wankers who need to learn from US BRITISH about how to stay alive as a free nation for hundreds and hundreds of years, even suffering constant termoil through wars and terrorism.

        Youre like a country of spoiled little children who dont respect their parents.

        Theres a famous quote that says "those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it" WE are the ones with the history my boy, so kindly grow some ***** balls, and go read a book.

        • abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Considering the restrictions of freedom faced in the UK are even more stringent than the ones here in the US, calling the UK a free country is pretty much a fallacy.
        • JohnP, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1abdrahman - Such as??... Youre talking out of your arse..
      • newsninja, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1mrASSMAN, judging by your misguided comments, I'm willing to bet your interpretation of the British media response to these attacks is based on a few articles you've read on Prisonplanet.com.

        There has been no media hysteria, I'm afraid. The 24/7 news channels dedicated quite a bit of time to gathering eyewitness testimonies, attempting to clear up confusion and report information when it became available, but there has been no hysteria whatsoever. Various explosives, terrorism and security experts have been interviewed by the media, and (contrary to what Alex Jones and co. would have you believe) they have all come to the similar conclusion that these were exceedingly amateurish operations and were not likely to cause much damage had they gone as the terrorists had planned. The terror alert level was raised, quite understandably, and the public have been warned to remain vigilant, but aside from that there is no panic and there is no hysteria. There are a few uneducated jerks who have taken this as an excuse to lash out at ethnic minorities, but you can be damned sure we're not living in fear right now.

        Less than 24 hours after the car bomb discoveries in central London the roads were open again and people were carrying on with their lives as usual. The morning after these events, when the developments became less frequent, the news channels returned to normal covering other issues.
        • diggertigger, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Bollocks
          The British media and MI5 are working to ferment tension towards Muslims if u cant see that your a blind fool
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