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- Kombaiyashii, on 10/11/2007, -10/+119I actually drove right by the second 'bomb' which was found on the way to work...Very few people are buying this story. Terrorists are a group of people that want to install fear into the public; the media are the terrorists in this case. This is a full on assault against our intelligence...
- earwigjoe, on 10/11/2007, -6/+114I grew up with real bombs in Belfast
there was never this media hysteria then..
so why now? - Cadmium77, on 10/11/2007, -21/+103Drink the Kool Aid my little slaves. Your masters have plans for you that require your complete passive obedience. Don't worry. They'll protect you all from the boogey man, but it will require a temporary cessation of civil liberties. Stay home, watch TV and drink your beer. There's a big game on tonight. Won't that be fun!
- Ogrady, on 10/11/2007, -13/+83Thank you Keith.
- VIrus9, on 10/11/2007, -4/+44Because the bombs in Belfast weren't being planted by brown people.
- Albionshores, on 10/11/2007, -8/+46Cool video. He identifies yes there is a threat but lets not be alramist. Don't allow Gitmos, don't go down the torture route otherwise you become victims of that which are trying to fight.
There are still sensationlists running around squealing and spreading panic. Get a grip of yourselves. - onedeaddj, on 10/11/2007, -2/+37Re: "Innocent people being killed, as opposed to soliders who are putting up a fight in the warzone."
Erm, last time I checked, the retards in their burning cars couldn't even kill themselves, never mind anyone else. - sailyn, on 10/11/2007, -8/+34Why, because Mr. Brown has an agenda.
- earwigjoe, on 10/11/2007, -3/+26It would be great if you were right.... problem is most people(the majority) are sheeple.......
- M3RCINIAN, on 10/11/2007, -5/+27Because we live in a post 9/11 world. Anything related to terrorism is now blown way out of proportion.
- Gingachgooch, on 10/11/2007, -4/+25Its still minuscule in relation Io Iraq which is ignored by the mainstream media
I think that's the main point... and is that not obvious?? - wilf_brim, on 10/11/2007, -3/+23The people behind these attempts were clearly amateurs, the B or C team at best. They received little, if any, training. Their planning was poor, execution worse. That doesn't mean they didn't have intent (they probably did), and the threat can't be completely ignored. Even a n00b gets lucky once in a while.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 10/11/2007, -3/+20The reporter on the BBC was well over dramatic. She was saying about how heroic the bomb squad was because it could have killed hundreds, if not thousands of people. What the hell--even if it was proper explosives and was a threat, have you ever heard of thousands of people in Baghdad being killed with a single car bomb!
- Jambi, on 10/11/2007, -0/+17"Post 9/11 world"...God, that damn phrase has been done to death. You'd think that New York was the only city ever to come under attack and suffer casualties. I was going to school at the time of the attacks, and while I understand the reaction in the immediate wake of such a devastating event, I can't believe that people in general are so horribly stupid as to go along with our political elites' plan of using this as an excuse to erode yet more rights and liberties in this country. This entire generation of politicians (both left and right wing) seem to want to do nothing more than turn the US into Singapore; a corporate paradise where citizens exist to support the ruling political class. Seems to be a trend in the whole Western world, actually. Truly disgusting.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -14/+31Kieth Olberman is the only reporter to have a brain and a sense of decency...O'RLY is retard...
- BenjAii, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18It will be interesting when we find out the who's and why's behind these attacks. Yes, they were extremely ineffective (even if they had gone off) compared to what the insurgents in Iraq or any experienced terrorist group e.g. IRA/ETA are capable of. My guess they will be isolated elements operating on their own and they are obviously not very good at what they intended to do. Both the London bombs were on the route of saturday's gay pride march - I wonder was that related ?
The hype though is mainly down to the British newspapers. Those of us who live in the UK know it doesn't take much for them to get completely hysterical. One example - fridays London Evening Standard - has the headline 'Bomb to kill 1700' - based on no more than the premise that the nightclub TigerTiger had a max capacity (when full, no mention if it was at 2 on thurs night) of 1700. Such sloppy journalistic standards are regrettably common here. Hence, journalists are regularly ranked with estate agents at the bottom of the scale for honestly & public trust when it comes to surveys .... - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -11/+27Is Kieth the only Reporter in the USA with a brain?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+18Because British petroleum and Halyburton oil were never going to make a potential 30 trillion on oil reserves...
- Gingachgooch, on 10/11/2007, -8/+21Wake up please...
- caution, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19young guy: "Ha. Can you believe this, they are shooting arrows at helicopters. How do they expect to win?"
old guy: "That's the problem, how can you beat someone who is willing to shoot arrows at helicopters."
All the stupid media coverage aside, the core issue is the fact that there seems to be no shortage of muslims who will perform acts such as the ones in the UK in order to "make it to paradise."
Laugh at them all you want, but they'll keep trying. As for the media hype, as long as it's consumed, it will be produced. - milkmage, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12dude.. calm the ***** down. yeah explosives are dangerous.. but patio gas and petrol are NOT the same thing as C4 or semtex. PERIOD.
- thirdman, on 10/11/2007, -4/+15You have trust and faith in THIS government? Good grief, I was told someone still did but I though you were a myth...
- rickpdx, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Sounds like V for Vendetta isn't that far off the mark...
- otheruser, on 10/11/2007, -1/+12Most gas canisters have safety valves that release the gas at a regular rate when exposed to high heat (explosion). So, you'd see more of a blowtorch effect, not a huge explosion.
- understudy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12But you're supposed to be afraid! Be very afraid! All of the grand plans they have for you can't happen unless you're scared enough to allow them to.
_ - oxdeltaxo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12You shouldn't be worried when someone buys gasoline or propane, be afraid when they buy large amounts of chlorine or fertilizer.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11One of the bombs was in SCOTLAND - the one which actually detonated. Scotland is NOT PART OF ENGLAND. Scotland and England along with Wales and Northern Ireland form the United Kingdom.
- vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11How about you get a choice of standing next to gasoline or a pack of C4.
Gasoline might ***** you up, but you will most likely be able to walk away due to the fact it isn't a directed energy type of blast.
C4 on the other hand... Well you won't walk away...
Even if you survive, you'll be missing a leg or two. - rlh1, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12Let me get this straight,
They fake these terroristic attacks so that they can justify fear and hatred of Arabs? Justify the war in Iraq?
Create fear in order to control people?
The majority of the "Terrorists" attacks were carried out by British citizens. The majority were from Pakistani origins.
Why don't they fake it to make it look like Arabs from Iraq did it? - mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10If they do explode, they're designed to release pressure in a controlled fashion.. i.e. the valve would be the first to go which would cause the gas to erupt from the top very quickly.. but not explode in the way that a bomb would.
- Jonty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+10Anyone with any intelligence should have realised the stuff in there would never have been able to cause anything than a burning car.
- Yanaran, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Remind me, how many died so far in these attacks? I need to know what's considered "maximum loss of life" so I don't step on any toes when talking about this with people.
- 15charmaxwtf, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10"Seriously." The media (and other agencies) did not deal with this seriously, they blew it out of proportion.
- Jonty, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Gas cannisters are very, very strong. Fire crews leave them for a while to cool down as a precaution; they very rarely actually explode, and if what otheruser said is right, they have safety mechanisms for that too. In this case the worst that could happen is the petrol could set on fire, causing everyone to evacuate. If the cannisters did go off, they'd do so completely safely causing at the very worst some nasty damage to the surrounding buildings.
- cquinnd, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11"There is a reason why the fire brigade get worried ****when these things are in fires*****"
Note the emphasis. A gas canister that is already exposed to extreme heat (such as in a fire), is dangerous because the liquid gasoline inside has likely started to turn to vapor, and might have built up pressure if the canister is closed. Vaporized gasoline under pressure can explode if it ignites, which might cause liquid gasoline to splash over a large distance and be ignited itself, resulting in a fireball.
These canisters (according to the reports) were not in a fire, and (again according to news reports) there was no other form of explosive device with them that might cause the gasoline to either vaporize and explode, or ignite and be spread as burning liquid.
So these gas canisters in the cars (as reported by the news services and police agencies involved) would be no more dangerous to stand next to than the gas tank of an average car on a hot day. Even if you had a small explosive device in the car as well, it would have caused far less damage than the bus bombs that were strapped onto the London suicide bombers in the earlier attack. - gernblansted, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Without high explosives present? That would be a lot of manual labor, and I don't think people would just sit there and let someone hammer a nail into their heads one by one. The media is the terrorist here. A burning car with LP canisters popping just isn't enough to scare people that much and a bunch of burnt nails that would have to be thrown away just isn't scary enough to do the job of instilling fear either.
Ratings hungry media who don't want you to change the channel, though... - gottadiggit, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9"any kind of terrorism" So does that work both ways? If you were an Iraqi Citizen who just saw their family die would you be allowed to view those responsible as terrorists? Or do you only veiw life from your side of the fence?
- thirdman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.
Hubert H. Humphrey - kuzotz, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9I was 3 blocks away from that suicide bomb attack in Ankara. I'm American. Of course I was nervous, but I'm a pretty calm person. I grew up in a bad area so violence such as shootings don't make me panic. I was at the YMCA downtown when I was a kid during the OKC memorial bombing. The building shook and glass went flying all over the place. I remember this because I have a scar on my shoulder from where the debris hit me. Stuff like this happens. Most Americans are afraid of their own shadow. Very few are willing to leave the country to see the world. BTW stay away from pigs. They can kill you.
- eggo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Hasn't he been very critical of the "War on Terror"? I can't help but wonder if this is some effort (not by Brown) to scare the public into perpetuating the war...
- reiner15, on 10/11/2007, -7/+14I find it funny that the last couple of weeks Cheney has been under fire for his words and then all of a sudden this happens... which has taken attention away from him... not all, but just enough to make some people forget about it for awhile.
- wibblewobble, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9Just one little point.. here in the UK we use PETROL in our cars, we don't tend to call it gas, the stuff in the cannisters was pressurised butane gas not gasoline. There's a huge difference - especially when it explodes.
- samdu, on 10/11/2007, -12/+19I find it very difficult to believe that the bombs "wouldn't have killed anybody." It's one thing to keep hysteria in check. It's another thing completely to swing too far in the other direction.
- Archos, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9No, he doesn't have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VaP1HB7Vew
Well, maybe he has... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKV0_LzpmHM - Yanaran, on 10/11/2007, -9/+16The politics of fear by the UK and US governments have paid off. Two "bombs" that didn't detonate and a burning car at an airport puts an entire country on "high terror alert", with people calling for the heads of Arabs everywhere.
How many civilians did your coalition of the willing kill today in the middle east? - otheruser, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10Hahaha....
"Larry C. Johnson is a former intelligence officer of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, where he served for four years, until 1989, when he became deputy director for transportation security, antiterrorism assistance training, and special operations in the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism, until October 1993.."
Yeah, he was a real coffee boy. Idiot. - onedeaddj, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6It was in Glasgow, not Belfast. Different country. It seems the "crazy anti-government" people are paying a little more attention than you, Sir.
- Gryfft, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8I'm digging you down- you're not being censored, you're being censured. Free speech doesn't mean anybody can bother EVERYBODY, it means everyone has an equal voice. The digg system works on that democratic principle, that by joining our voices, we can make ourselves heard. We digg up people we agree with, utilizing our free speech. We digg down people we disagree with. If EVERYONE disagrees with you, they don't want to hear you, and you have no right to babble on to all of them, because they will not join their voices with yours. This is Digg, my friend. It's the community that is in power here- hell, they couldn't shut us down when we screamed the Number across the internet. Attack the site design if you want, but leave the community aspect alone. To wit: If you get dugg down, don't whine about it.
- iDragonFly, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Right on schedule like so many past distractions.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Dude.. gasoline doesn't explode. 50 gallons of gas would cause a hot fire if they're lucky, and that's only if there is enough oxygen in the car to allow for any combustion at all. I mean, what's going to start it? A spark wouldn't work, unless vapor/oxygen mix is released first (such as in a combustion engine), simply put, it would most likely have completely failed, and at the worst have created a burning car that I often see on city freeways after car accidents. I think people are intelligent enough to stay away from a burning vehicle.
Also, it would have to on fire for quite a while before the propane tanks explode. Possibly 20 minutes or more. I'm certain that the area would be cleared before anything could have the chance to explode and injure people. Why doesn't anyone think rationally when these situations arise? -
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