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Evidence of U.S. Military Presence in Georgia
infowars.com — The U.S. and Russia began “military exercises” on either side of the Caucasus mountains last month. Here are the sources.
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- MarkEarhart, on 08/08/2008, -1/+12What a Hell of a mess!!!
- caferrell, on 08/08/2008, -1/+11Oh *****, here we go again
- SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -1/+15"the US military is running exercises around the conflict."
Great. Another 'running 'practice' drills" at the same time a real battle conflict is happening. How quaint.
Like they were running "exercises" and "wargames" on the same morning of 9/11 depicting similar scenario?
Like the London government was running "exercises" on 7/7/2005 at the same time of the real bombings?
The chances for these two events taking place at the same time, let alone in the same locations, are ***** ASTRONOMICAL.
Could the US military be planning to get involved in this Caucasus conflict? Remember the 'strategic oil pipeline" stretching 1,774 km from Azerbaijan, to Georgia...It's no mystery why the corporation of the US military industrial complex is there with about 1,000 US commandos and marines taking part in the maneuvers...- Hakib0, on 08/09/2008, -3/+4Yeah, the chances are astronomical, maybe because they didn't actually happen???
Show me an actual corroborated source supporting either of your "exercise" arguments, and Ill concede defeat.
And seriously, dont even bother with this "infowars" site. The guy who runs it is ***** crazy and spills just as much war propaganda as he claims to be against.
And while Im at it, you realize that Russia has no right to be interfering in Georgia anyway? While the US and Israel are providing training and strategic support, Russia has decided to "come to the aid" of a few hundred rebels who support "The Soviet Republic of Georgia." This entire action is a ruse by Russia to reclaim Georgia back into "the motherland," as they have done numerous times before. I dont think its much of a problem if the US and Israel provide strategic support when the free and democratically elected Georgian government asked for it. If they join in the fighting however, that would be crossing a line...- SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -1/+6And cross a line, they will. We're talking 'strategic oil pipeline" here. No line is too think. It's no mystery why the corporation of the US (military industrial complex) is involved. And it's never for the reasons we serfs are told either.
"the guy who runs infowars is ***** crazy"? You got your crazy stereotypes mixed up. Remember, he wasn't the crazy psycho who lied to deceive America into war. He certainly doesn't have blood on his hands from the murder of 100's of 1000's of civilians and over 4000 US troops and service people. He wasn't of the ***** war crazed lunatics who fabricated phony "WMD" "evidence to present in front of UN council to market a fraudulent war (hostile corporate takeover) in the middle east to initiate a PNAC manifesto.
THAT ***** is truly ***** CRAZY. And propaganda of the highest order. The crazy ones are the PNAC war fetishist neoCONs running this chessgame of *****. Not some guy with a website exposing their deceit. Get your priorities straight already!
You expect someone else to be your research monkey and couldn't be bothered to use a search engine huh? Well you're fortunate I feel like being accommodating (just finished off a tasty double-espresso!) so here goes. I have these links saved in my cadre of desktop URLs.. Enjoy?
"The Military Drills on 9-11: ‘Bizarre Coincidence’ or Something Else? " http://physics911.net/pdf/jacobs.pdf
September 11 2001 "wargames"
http://911review.org/brad.com/wargames/GlobalGuard ...
When terrorists struck America on September 11, U.S. bombers were sitting gassed up on the ground, armed with nuclear weapons, as part of an annual "war exercise."
As the 9/11 attacks are taking place, a large U.S. military training exercise called 'Global Guardian' is “in full swing.” Global Guardian is both command post & field training exercise, & is based around a fictitious scenario designed to test the ability of Stratcom and its component forces to deter a military attack against the US..http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?enti ...
On the morning of 9/11, 5 "war games' and "terror drills" were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, including one "live fly" exercise using REAL planes. And the "drills" apparently included the injection of false "radar blips" onto the screens of air traffic controllers http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_s ...
The military had also conducted drills of planes crashing into the Pentagon http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/news_photos/Contingen ...
The US government was running a simulation of a plane crashing into a building on the morning of 9/11 http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sept11/anniver ...
Coincidence? of course.
MP Michael Meacher, Britain’s longtime Environment Minister, published an explosive article in the UK Guardian entitled “This War on Terrorism is Bogus” which accused the US of allowing 9/11 to happen to incite public support for preplanned Mideast invasions and an 'ultra-right agenda for world hegemony.'
The story causeed a “furor” in Britain and spread like wildfire through the Middle East, Europe, Asia and the Third World. Only American readers were shut out of the news by US controlled corporate media “restraint”. http://911citizenswatch.org/?p=21
When Terror Drills Turned Real: 9-11, the 7/7 London Bombings & the Sinking of Estonia http://www.bollyn.info/home/articles/911/solving91 ...
BBC Radio - Drills Ran on day of 7/7/2005 London bombings http://tinyurl.com/63crk2
7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks?
A fictional "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005.
Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client.
The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va& ...
("Peter Power".. There's a name for you. Lol!)
Haroon Rashid Aswat, alleged "mastermind" of the 7/7 plot, is a *known MI6 asset* double agent who even went as far as protecting him against American criminal indictments by falsely claiming he is dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoxPY3H5EqA
Former prosecutor for the justice department goes public on FOX news. After the London bombings, this guy was wanted by the CIA and the British police but MI6 was doing everything to hide him. He's now into custody. But it's too obvious : British 'Secret Services" involvement in the bombings.
A private consultation firm, Visor Consultants, was running a terror drill based on the exact same scenario, locations and times as the actual attacks
7/7 Bombings Final Word: http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2005/7-7-Majestys- ...
Mossad foreknowledge of the bombings as confirmed by Meir Dagan, 'head of the Mossad', in the German magazine Bild am Sonntag on 10 July 2005: http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Security/599 ...
How Did Mossad Know the London Bombings Were Going to Happen? http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/london_m ...
The 7/7 London Bombings: How to Set Up a Patsy http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/london_e ...
7/7 Ripple Effect (57 minutes) http://jforjustice.co.uk/77/
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I had to stop somewhere!
7/7 was another scam. Just like 9/11. Both have "inside operation" written all over them. Those ***** crazy terrorists sure love their numerology don't they?
How many people worked on the Manhattan Project: over 100,000.
It was kept secret until the bombs were dropped.
Think a little. History reveals the present.
I have respect for the living and for the dead... value your freedoms and show the same respect for those who died to give them to you!
THIS "WAR ON TERRORISM" IS BOGUS
Anytime the government declares "war" on something you can be sure it's a fraud.
The 9/11 attacks gave the US an ideal pretext
to use force to secure its "global domination"
PNAC manifesto initiated. "Mission accomplished"
Endless years of perpetual war profiteering in the middle east.
No end in sight.
Americas Constitution and Bill of Rights dismantled.
Our privacy rights destroyed.
By what logic can you protect America's rights and freedoms by taking them away?
Remember, we are told America was attacked on 9/11 by "evil terrorists "enemies of freedom" who "hate our American freedoms and way of life"... - Hakib0, on 08/09/2008, -2/+1Wow, that was a long post. Kudos for finding all of those articles.
I should have been more clear in asking to produce articles saying that "[The US military] ... were running "exercises" and "wargames" on the same morning of 9/11 depicting similar scenario?"
This is quite misleading, as none of the exercises were related to 9/11 except for one computer simulation taking place in D.C.
The first link you posted is the only one that is truly fully sourced, unfortunately, as I checked the sources, they did not coincide with the information being presented, and oftentimes did not exist at all (and yes, I tried to search for updated URLs)
Important Note:
"Distinctions between war games and
terrorist drill may be significant. Although there is a difference, for convenience
sake, either ‘‘war games’’ or ‘‘drills’’ will be used here mean to describe
military exercises of all varieties."
What BS is that? So for the rest of the article you are led to believe that all the exercises are "terror drills", when they in fact are not. If you actually read the article, you'll find that very few of the drills actually occurred on 9/11, and some of them weren't drills at all (Operation Northern Vigilance, flying fighters to Alaska to intercept Russian patrols = NOT A DRILL) (Oh, and just because 40 or so fighters were sent to Alaska doesn't mean we dont have another....5000 sitting on or around the eastern seaboard)
Aside from that, there were two mutli-day drills that overlapped into 9/11, Global Guardian and Vigilant Guardian. These were yearly exercises that have happened every year at the same time, and happened to overlap into 9/11. Also, they are "Command Post Exercises", meaning they only take place at the computer terminals of NORAD and Strategic Air Command. No physical resources were take out of service. The simulation this year was that Russia would be attacking the US with bombers. Not an airplane crashing into a building.
Vigilant Warrior was a misnomer by John Clarke, which he admitted to, so strike that one off the record.
The only true "coincidence" was that the National Reconnaissance Office was planning an exercise for a plane crashing into their Chantilly, VA headquarters. Planners had blocked off some stairwells in preparation for the exercise, but as soon as the planes crashed into the WTC, the exercise was canceled before it had started and employees were sent home.
Lastly, the only exercise to actually take place in NYC was a bioterrorism exercise set up on Pier 92, with members of NYC police and firefighters. The exercise had not begun yet when the planes hit, but once they did, the presence of the city employees there allowed them to quickly set up Pier 92 to be an emergency command center.
In all, the 9/11 Commission report concluded that these exercises actually EXPEDITED the response to the attacks, not hindered them. The only reason fighters werent able to reach the hijacked planes in time was because the FAA did not follow its regulations for reporting to NORAD.
Its funny how the stories between websites like "infowars" and websites like "norad.mil" differ in their stories and details of events. And while NORAD can provide audio tapes, transcripts, schedules, and personal testimonies, sites like infowars and propagandamatrix can only provide references to each other, and no official sources.
I find it also funny that you're telling me not to take everything at face value, when its you who haven't actually read the papers you sent me, or at the very least haven't checked the sources to make sure you haven't been fed BS.
Now with regard to the exercises ongoing during 7/7:
The exercise WAS NOT being carried out by the UK government, but by a private firm, Visor Consultants. Also, the "exercise" involved less than 30 people, and was being done on paper in an office building.
The city of London had held numerous drills, simulations, and exercises on Underground bombings before 7/7, and there was even a BBC special about the exercises months before 7/7. They had envisioned a larger scale attack with many more casualties, judging from the scale of the 9/11 attacks.
Aswat was not an MI6 operative. It was alleged by a single muslim Shiek that he was an MI6 operative (the UK doesnt even recognize that MI6 is real). Plus, I looked for verifiable sources (other than this guy on Faux News), and I cant find anything supporting what he's saying. In fact, right after the events he lists, the UK extradited him, arrested him, and then handed him over to the US where he awaits trial.
Be aware that I found all of this information by going to the sources of the links YOU sent me.
Now to your tertiary points.
The Manhattan Project was a horribly kept secret. If your grandfather was in the army at the time, talk to him and Im sure he'll tell you that rumors spread quickly in the army that we were developing "A bomb to blow up an entire city." And while there were over 100,000 people working on the project, very few people actually understood what was happening. You have to understand that nuclear science was not around back then, so no one but very few top scientists even knew what "neutrons" were.
Thats completely different than assuming that thousands of people were aware that "some planes were going to crash into a building." A 2 year old understands the implications of that. Its not nuclear science.
Ill tell you what I tell all the 9/11 Truthers on Digg: Go out and discuss your view with real people in real life, and see how they stand up to true scrutiny. Politicians and CEO's are not part of some evil empire, elected governments are not plotting how to control the rest of the world, there IS no conspiracy.
Now I love V for Vendetta, but the phrase "There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence" really doesn't apply in RL. "co-incidence" means literally "similar incidences occuring simultaneously" So, is it a coincidence that I am writing on my computer right now at the exact same time that someone in China is writing on their computer? Yes. Does it mean anything? No
Is it a coincidence that military office workers were practicing a paper-and-computer based simulation of Russia attacking the US, while at the same time a hijacked airplane crashed into the WTC? No, theyre not similar events.
Was it a coincidence that a paper-and-computer exercise about Underground bombings was being carried out by a private firm in London the day of the attacks? Yes. So shouldn't we be asking questions to the private firm, and not the government?
The primary tools of conspiracy theories are misdirection and selectively choosing evidence that only supports your viewpoint. Ive looked at your viewpoint, Ive dived into the sources, and I came out right where I was before, albeit with a bit more concern that people will believe anything exciting these days...
- SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1One lengthy reply deserves another. " : )
"This is quite misleading, as none of the exercises were related to 9/11 except for one computer simulation taking place in D.C."
Link?
"as I checked the sources, they did not coincide with the information being presented, and oftentimes did not exist at all (and yes, I tried to search for updated URLs)"
Uhhuh.
I call *****. Great tactic to deny everything across the board though, gotta hand it to you.
You ask for 'actual corroborated sources supporting my arguments', yet supply none of your own. Interesting tactic.
Where are your links to coincide with your information being presented?
Where are your URLS to prove your belief?
Or is your only motive here to deny mine.
"Vigilant Warrior was a misnomer by John Clarke, which he admitted to, so strike that one off the record."
Citation?
Michael Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon"has the deepest analysis of the how the war games facilitated the attacks by paralyzing the air defenses http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_s ...
Are we to believe that just because Clarke allegedly admitted "misnomer", that it never in fact occurred? We all know how government never denies accountability and never lies to cover-up crimes..They've tricked you into thinking that they are factually covering events and doing "fair and honest reporting"
There has been virtually no media coverage of the issues of the 9/11 war games, the "amazing coincidence" of a "plane into building" exercise being conducted that morning, or the alleged role of president of vice Richard Cheney in overseeing the war games that morning.
General Ralph Eberhart, who was in charge of NORAD (air defense) on 9/11, was the first commander of the new "Northern Command," the domestic unified military command established in October 2002. If the domestic use of the U.S. military escalates into full-scale martial law, the Northern Command would essentially manage it. If 9/11 had been an "intelligence failure," it is likely that General Eberhart would have been court-martialed instead of promoted. http://www.oilempire.us/norad.html
This is what your government is made of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpWqdPMjmo
Yeah, and we're going to trust them unconditionally to tell us the truth..
One cannot overlook the fact that certain resources had been put into place by the Tripod II drill, while a Secret Service agent had been put into place in New York’s Office of Emergency Management (OEM) on September 11. The Secret Services also had offices in the building 7 of the World Trade Center just to ensure that all the planning way up there at the top could go smoothly. Does all this sound like a mere coincidence? A statistician should be employed at this juncture just to calculate the mathematical probability of all the coincidences listen in this chapter being merely coincidental. Remember also that Vigilant Warrior was a live-fly drill involving the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Remember also that General Richard B. Myers would be promoted on September 14, 2001 to the Joint Chiefs of Staff directly after displaying gross incompetence on September 11th, which suggests that he was not being rewarded for his incompetence but for his competent execution of duties in a criminal conspiracy orchestrated at the highest levels of the U.S. government.
http://www.zeusinfoservice.com/Articles/NationalPl ...
"The only true "coincidence" was that the National Reconnaissance Office was planning an exercise for a plane crashing into their Chantilly, VA headquarters."
Not quite.
"NORAD exercise had jet crashing into building: Sometime between 1991 and 2001, a regional sector of the North American Aerospace Defense Command simulated a foreign hijacked airliner crashing into a building in the United States as part of training exercise scenario, a NORAD spokesman said Monday.
The exercise was solely to test procedures and was no indication that NORAD had any reason to believe the scenario would happen in the real world, according to a spokesman.
It is unclear whether the simulated scenario was that of a hijacked plane being "used as missile" -- intentionally crashing into a building -- or that of an out-of-control hijacked plane." http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/04/19/norad.exercise/in ...
The coincidence of the billion dollar US defense systems asleep at the wheel, standing down, doing nothing to protect America as it's under attack at the same time several "drills" and "exercises" are being conducted is a monumental coincidence in and of itself. This anomaly was never investigated, of course. Coincidence? Another instance of "move along, nothing to see here."
The 9/11 Omission Commission should have fully investigated these military "exercises" taking place on the morning of 9/11 (that could have been cover for live attacks..) but instead chose to ignore such a glaring coincidence and failed us. Rumsfeld and Myers should have been grilled intensely but were not. They were given a free pass and let off the hook.
FYI, the rigged 9/11 commission was a presentation, not an investigation..
"but as soon as the planes crashed into the WTC, the exercise was canceled before it had started and employees were sent home."
The National Reconnaissance Office operates many of the nation's spy satellites. It draws its personnel from the military and the CIA..
In a promotion for speaker John Fulton, a CIA officer assigned as chief of NRO's strategic gaming division, the announcement says, "On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day." http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/planes/defense/s ...
"In all, the 9/11 Commission report concluded that these exercises actually EXPEDITED the response to the attacks, not hindered them."
Huh? That's why the entire US defense system and military was asleep at the wheel and did nothing to protect America that day.
Yeah, the response was so "expedited", nothing was done at all despite prior knowledge of impending attacks, no military protection, no scrambling fighter jets to secure the country, nothing to protect American citizens!
That's government "expediting" for you.
If there was a readiness exercise underway, why weren't interceptors deployed in a timely manner, at least to prevent the attack on the Pentagon?
There was no investigative anything in the 9/11 report...it was a dumbed-down half baked presentation. They simply stated what everyone already knew...There were no WMDs to be found and no Iraq/Al Quida link...Cheney is on record saying that he "fudged" the info to push us in there, the invasion that had been planned since 1993.
"The only reason fighters werent able to reach the hijacked planes in time was because the FAA did not follow its regulations for reporting to NORAD."
Sure that's the only reason? Also again, no proof offered.
"Its funny how the stories between websites like "infowars" and websites like "norad.mil" differ in their stories and details of events."
It's even "funnier" how a .mil sight would be more inclined to offer cover-up and suppression rather than revealing truth of what really happened than an independent website would. The .gov sites would never tell the real truth of events either. Why should they? Their version would be more or less a cover-up. They have no reason to tell us the truth when we common people have nothing to gain from such events.
"I find it also funny that you're telling me not to take everything at face value, when its you who haven't actually read the papers you sent me, or at the very least haven't checked the sources to make sure you haven't been fed BS."
Blind accusations..
Assume much? Does that tactic usually work for you in your discrediting campaigns or is this the first time you've tested it out with me as your guinea pig : )
I find it funny you are so sure of your "official story" on everything. What makes you so sure YOU haven't been fed BS? Most of us are skeptical of "government says so" evidence. They have done nothing but lie to our faces about everything. They lied to deceive us into 2 middle east wars, a 3rd in the works with Iran. Over 900 lies about the Iraq war. There hasn't been a war in history that wasn't based on massive manipulations and deception by the government. Why should 9/11 be any different. Or did the professional deceivers suddenly decide to break their pattern of perpetual lying and give us the honest truth of that fatal day which changed America forever?
The entire government is a criminal enterprise of murdering thugs, destroying the Constitution, Bill of Rights, sending kids to die for the global hegemony.
1776 is the example we need to follow, these people are lying deceiving ***** thugs (Rep. & Dem.)!!! They have ran our republic into the ground, with the direct backing of the Rothschild's and Rockefeller's.
"the UK doesnt even recognize that MI6 is real"
? ? ?
LOL! You owe me a double latte! I just spit half of it out on my monitor! They don't recognize their own intelligence agency that has been in operation since 1909? Shirley you jest. Have MI6 been operating in secret from the government all this time?
It was British (MI6) intelligence that those morons (particularly Powell) used to justify the war. It was a British leaked (Downing Street) document of a statement by the head of MI6 that showed it was the Americans who were faking the "intelligence."
It was leaked by The Times, a Murdoch newspaper by a journalist, Michael Smith who wrote a book described as "the definitive history of MI6." ..Can you see a pattern ?
What about the faked documents that Iraq was buying uranium from Niger? Those were proven to be falsified documents, Joseph Wilson went to Niger to prove the claims, and found them to be fraud and as a result his wife was outed as a CIA agent by the white house as a payback (Valerie Plame) This is treason.
"Now with regard to the exercises ongoing during 7/7: The exercise WAS NOT being carried out by the UK government, but by a private firm, Visor Consultants."
I never claimed the 7/7 sham was "carried out by UK government." It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if criminal elements within the govt were involved, had prior foreknowledge and were complicit in making sure the "terrorist attacks" were successful..wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Peter Power, Managing Director of this "Visor Consultants" (which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a **PR firm**) was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the "Anti Terrorist Branch." This "consultancy agency" with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th. It wasn't on paper either it was live with real people.
So you're saying the London government had absolutely no knowledge whatsoever of this large scale exercise taking place in their city at the same time of the real bombings depicting the same scenario? By a "consultancy agency" with government and police connections..no less..
How can anyone credibly claim that this was sheer coincidence when pieced together with the rest of the evidence?
"Also, the "exercise" involved less than 30 people, and was being done on paper in an office building."
Less than 30 people?
On paper?
LOL.
Peter Power, 'Managing Director" of "Visor Consultants" had revealed that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.
But you on the other hand claim it involved less than 30 people, and was being done on paper in an office building. Could you please provide a source for this discovery?
"Be aware that I found all of this information by going to the sources of the links YOU sent me."
Right.
I checked my links. Half of what you asserted was never sourced there.
I think you weren't really looking for new information, you already had your answers pre-decided in attempt to deny government complicity to further obfuscate and cover-up the issues.
"Thats completely different than assuming that thousands of people were aware that "some planes were going to crash into a building."
Really how so.
"A 2 year old understands the implications of that. Its not nuclear science."
A 2 year old could also understand the US government version of 9/11 events is a comic book cover-up to what really happened.
"Go out and discuss your view with real people in real life, and see how they stand up to true scrutiny. "
I have talked to plenty of people about these topics and 'my view' in real life. At political rallies and otherwise. Including a few state representatives. Many were receptive given the information provided. Not everyone in real life buys what the government is selling..More and more are waking up each day -(continued below..)- - SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -0/+1(cont. from wall-o-text above..)
Unfortunately, most people have been programmed to receive and acknowledge only what their TV tells them. Therefore, dissenting information is immediately rejected and not considered. No matter how hard you try you cannot reach them. If they didn't see it on CNN, or NBC nightly news didn't report it and a Fox News talking pundit didn't verify, it obviously isn't worth considering, isn't important and never happened in the first place. That is what you get with a controlled media manipulated, non critical thinking populace
Carlin says it all here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0
"Politicians and CEO's are not part of some evil empire,"
So they're part of a friendly empire then? that's looking out for humankind's best interests over a profit motive..
"elected governments are not plotting how to control the rest of the world,"
A 2 year old could recognize how naive that statement appears. Read the PNAC document then get back to me...
I suppose someone like you would vehemently deny the existence of the North American Union (NAU) the globalist criminals have on their drawing board as well? And deny the Real ID cards with RFID tracking chips they want to enslave us all with? Several years ago, that plan was labeled "conspiracy theory."..
The media is controlling each and everyone of us like we're robots. We believe anything that is is thrown in front of our faces.. why can't people make their own decisions anymore. The gov't knows whats its doing its feeding us this ***** so that we can stay under their control.
Look at the benefactors of the billions of dollars for 'war effort' the Pentagon is 're-budgeting' for -- in a war with a country that had nothing to do with 9/11
Benefactors do not include AMERICAN public, IRAQI Civilians - its WAR CONTRACTORS and all corporations associated there with.
"there IS no conspiracy."
Sure, if you see so.
Those who set out to deceive, those who no nothing other then to lie to get their way, for money, greed, and religion. add HAARP, mind control, weather warfare, LCD experiments on ones own country, conspiracy? yes though a real life conspiracy, did not JFK warn of not invasion though that of infiltration? Is this not what has happened in this century?
President John F. Kennedy warned us about the danger posed by tolerating excessive secrecy, and permitting members of "secret societies" and the military-industrial (-intelligence-media) complex to slowly covertly subvert our Constitutional Republic from within, right before our eyes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA
A monolithic conspiracy if there ever was.
Is there any wonder why JFK is no longer with us. He was a "new world order" front-man who refused to play ball. The rest is history.
"I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that's accurate' --Col. Ronald D. Ray, U.S.M.C
George Bush himself said let us not believe "outrages conspiracy theories", this was to put people off from the real conspiracy, the shame of the American government being its own worst enemy. Why should we believe Bush?
That reminds me of a "news" segment I saw on CNN about this. The anchor notified the mass audience that there were CONSPIRACY THEORIES! surrounding this started by "CONSPIRACY THEORISTS." The way he accentuated the word conspiracy was sickening, even giving a little condescending smirk to boot. The media has failed us all, they disgust me more than the people they are covering up for, sickening propaganda spewing drones.
Problem is, people are more concerned with "Dancing With The Stars" than with what's really happening. Weapons of Mass Distraction.
We live in a dark age right now.
Lies = Facts
War = Peace
Facts = "Conspiracy Theories"
REMEMBER only the government has the authority to tell poor American consumers which conspiracy theories are the "accepted" ones. If govt. tells poor consumers a conspiracy theory of 19 freedom-hating Arabs who "attacked America because they are enemies of democracy who hate our freedoms and American way of life!" using box cutters to defeat the security systems of the most heavily armed country on the planet then THAT conspiracy theory must be true.
George Bush says we must not tolerate "conspiracy theories." I ask what has George Bush got to hide.
People's lives are at stake. the govt. has been using the 9/11 scam to phase in a police state, dismantle our most basic Constitutional rights and take away privacy rights and freedoms supposedly in the name of 'terror". A bill was signed where the president, himself without the approval of congress can invoke martial law. Then there's "REX 84" where rights can immediately be stripped in such an event. There are 800 "U.S. Civilian" prison camps ready to receive "civilian" prisoners. Face it, we are now being treated like the enemy and can be thrown in prison camps at the drop of a hat if they please. Google NSPD-51.
Anyone who has read into 20th Century History will be able to read between the lines and connect the dots. I was very skeptical of Alex Jones until I watched Endgame. The history at the beginning is eerily similar to my early history classes taught at an international school. However, as my history teacher said, "History is written by the victors". It's so sad. We can see what is happening to you guys from afar. Along with Orwell's 1984, most of which has already materialized. The world mourns America's loss of freedoms. Thankfully we still have free will. Enjoy while you can.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Cover up is the voice of conspiracy to commit fraud.
"So, is it a coincidence that I am writing on my computer right now at the exact same time that someone in China is writing on their computer? Yes. Does it mean anything? No"
That is grossly oversimplifying things just a tad don't you think :o?
Certainly there are far too many 9/11 coincidences that mean MUCH more than the perpe-traitors would prefer us to believe...
"Is it a coincidence that military office workers were practicing a paper-and-computer based simulation of Russia attacking the US, while at the same time a hijacked airplane crashed into the WTC? No, theyre not similar events."
Playing Russian war games ... and then someone shouted to look at the monitor..
"At that point, we saw the World Trade Center, one of the towers, smoke coming out of it. And a minute later, we watched the live feed as the second aircraft swung around into the second tower," says Capt. Mike Jellinek.
(note: this assumes that NORAD wasn't contacted for about 40 minutes into the hijacking (second tower hit 9:03 am), which is not believable..)
He had one question for the people on the line from NEADS: "Was that the hijacked aircraft you were dealing with?" he asked. Yes, it was, came the reply. And then, Jellinek says, "it got really, really busy."
"The primary tools of conspiracy theories are misdirection and selectively choosing evidence that only supports your viewpoint."
The same can be said for the governments 9/11 19 Arabs with boxcutters conspiracy theory. And the London government's conspiracy theory that 7/7 bombings were planned on a shoestring budget from information on the Internet after first suggesting "Al Quada" involvement.
A "conspiracy" is any plotting which requires the involvement of 2 or more people.
The claim that 19-Arabs-Did-It is a CONSPIRACY THEORY.
The participants in the Boston Tea Party were involved in a CONSPIRACY.
The planners of the American Revolution were in a CONSPIRACY to down-throw the government (which happened to be the British at the time).
The people involved in the manipulation of the the intelligence behind the lies about WMDs in Iraq were in a CONSPIRACY,
The people involved in Iran-Contra were in a CONSPIRACY.
Watergate was a CONSPIRACY
Bank cartels are CONSPIRACIES.
Pharmaceutical cartels are CONSPIRACIES.
Organized crime groups are CONSPIRACIES
etc.
However, as facts come out, it becomes increasingly obvious that the "Magical Arabs Did It" official 9/11 conspiracy theory is as much a pile of garbage that the Bush administration is trying to shove down the throats of the American people as the lies about WMDs in Iraq were.
They aren't exactly a trustworthy bunch, those folks in the administration and their neoCON war profiteer buddies; not with all their lies about the forged "uranium-from-Niger" documents, the Jessica Lynch "rescue-which-wasn't" and many lies just as bad. Normal people don't like a diet of lies, especially big *****-stink ones that contradict common sense and the actual evidence.
There's nothing wrong with "our" government that a good lynch mob can't fix. But you don't need a 9/11 conspiracy to inflame it. Just listen to these bastards try to scare you to death and then deny they ever said a word. They are beyond hypocrisy. They are corporatist monsters. May they burn in hell for what they've done to my country and Constitution. And the sooner the better.
We never wanted a 9/11 conspiracy. It just happens to be that there was one, and without a shadow of doubt to anyone who doesn't require authoritarian admission, those towers, all three, were bought down by controlled explosives. Without reading one word on the Internet, or any outside influence, I knew exactly what I witnessed the day it happened. Please stop trying to gate keep.
Call for a criminal investigation into 9/11. The people who perpetrated 9/11 are still out there. Accountability is what this country needs right now. We are strong as a force. We deserve nothing less than the truth of this crime of the century that has changed our country and future forever.
- SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -1/+6And cross a line, they will. We're talking 'strategic oil pipeline" here. No line is too think. It's no mystery why the corporation of the US (military industrial complex) is involved. And it's never for the reasons we serfs are told either.
- Hakib0, on 08/09/2008, -3/+4Yeah, the chances are astronomical, maybe because they didn't actually happen???
- Fangsinmybeard, on 08/09/2008, -1/+10This just keeps getting worse and worse.
- 7Mystery, on 08/09/2008, -0/+2I wonder how far the US will go to aide Georgia if Russia declines to ceasefire.
- 911ArtStudent, on 08/10/2008, -1/+4Georgia has apparently been armed with a state-of-the-art antiaircraft system. They're success in downing Russian aircraft and in keeping their own airforce aloft would not be possible otherwise.
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