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- silga, on 10/12/2007, -40/+486(sorry for 1st post abuse, but i want this to be read)
Ok, I live in Mexico, our new president is giving drug trafficers a straight on fight. Army checkpoints are deployed on highways and sometimes in cities.
Cops are being killed daily, they are basically killing them for fun, they get killed while eating, patrolling, etc, etc...
You say why dont they shoot back?
Well yesterday one got killed, 3 guys get out of a suburban with AR-15 rifles each loaded with a cylinder packing 100 rounds. How can you fight back?... if you do get some time to react...
The good thing was that these asses crashed, and got busted... beside the super AR15 rifles, they found around 8 guns, like 20 catridges for the guns & rifles, bulletproof vests, 9 phones, radios, etc... And all this is fueled by dollars...
205Million USDollars, this money comes ALL from the USA -- while American people keep using drugs we aren't goint to be able to fight all the damn drug trafficking and killing.
PLEASE, STOP USING DRUGS YOU ARE KILLING US. My poor country is projected to be part of the BRIMC(combined, will double the GDP of the current top economies) nations by 2035-2050, and give its citizens a decent life standard, but all this violence caused by american drug users is really slowing us down. - billflu, on 10/12/2007, -14/+153@silga
Sadly, this message won't reach enough people in the US. - Shenaniganz08, on 10/12/2007, -2/+85wow that would take a ridiculously large suitcase
- shichimiller, on 10/12/2007, -16/+88DAMN!
- thewaz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+60im guessing youve never been pulled over in mexico, they won't let you leave until you bribe them (and you probably wont get pulled over for a legitimate reason). horribly corrupt police force.
- Tanglefuzz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+60I guess this is only 50% of what the coppers _really_ found...
- nodong, on 10/12/2007, -15/+66Seriously, legalize the drugs and make them their own punishment. Spend all that money on educating kids and incarcerating adults who buy the stuff from the pharmacy and give it to them. Let the adults who choose to destroy themselves, destroy themselves. Organized crime and gangs would have no money, and completely disintegrate.
- Chutch, on 10/12/2007, -7/+53Either Americans could stop using drugs, which is unlikely to happen, given the failure of the US War on Drugs, or the United States could decriminalize certain drugs, driving down the price, and decreasing the incentive to enter into the market. If drugs are cheap, drug lords make less money breaking the law, hippies grow the stuff in their backyard, and while it is not an absolute solution, it would be better than the status quo.
Drugs are used around the world, in every country, but it seems to be a bigger problem for the United States than everywhere else. Other countries that have decriminalized or legal drug usage seem to not have the problems of supporting violent drug cartels. The US War on Drugs increases the risk involved in entering into the drug market because cartels have to contend with giant drug seizures, government military resistance, and dangerous border crossings.
The drug cartels of today seem to be more of a product of drug criminalization, rather than drug usage... - phantom_mullet, on 10/12/2007, -1/+46"Hey guys, I'm just gonna take this stack of $100s for *cough* evidence."
- leobaby, on 10/12/2007, -7/+47
Now try to imagine $36 billion, in cash, lost, unaccounted for, 'spent' by contractors in iraq. - RichLatherX23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35Good points in this thread, but it's either "$200 million" or "200 million dollars". Your title says "200 million dollars dollars".
- gmailgeoff, on 10/12/2007, -8/+38Yes, legalize the poison. Look at alcohol, which is legal. By some, tt's irresponsibly used, it destroys lives, and plays a huge role in domestic violence in the US (and everywhere), etc. By others it is responsibly used and causes no problems. Prohibition caused more violence and death than alcohol though, and even otherwise puritanical lawmakers of the time were relatively quick to overturn it. Why we don't do the same thing with ALL DRUGS is a mystery. There's no argument about their dangers, and some drugs are far worse than others. But alcohol is dangerous too. The double standard is crazy. Yet legalizing pot in the US won't help the Mexican drug violence problem - that is a problem of Mexican law interfacing with laws of other countries.
- wonboodoo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+31@gmailgeoff
> Yet legalizing pot in the US won't help the Mexican drug violence problem - that is a problem of Mexican law interfacing with laws of other countries.
Incorrect. How many Mexican illegal alcohol cartels do you think there are? None, because if something is legal there is no black market.
I'm sympathetic to silga's plea, but a US meth-addict is not going to care about violence in Mexico. It's unrealistic to think they'll stop for it. The problem is the drug war causes more harm than good. I personally don't think legalizing meth is a wonderful thing to do, but it's better than the damage that criminalizing it has done, which is not working anyway. - zblackeagle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28@coolestkidalive
It's not a free market if it is illegal. The fact that it is a black market is why there is all the money and violence - dudinatrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21"And this... is my bedroom. Why yes, that is a bed made of $200 million dollars in cash. Sure..I..I suppose we can fondle each other on it."
- scottylist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21I prefer the Scrooge McDuck vault: http://www.popimage.com/dec99/pics/scrooge.jpg
- TomP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21*runs up and jumps on it*
- lemonsensation, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Scrooge McDuck would be proud... oh wait, that's drug money...
- brbubba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Wow, what kind of an idiot leaves that much money in one house. I would buy myself a private estate, with artillery turrets, land mines, armed military guards, a secret vault, and an escape route just in case they got past all that.
Not like it matters, I'd be willing to bet that half of that vanishes before monday. - atticus8, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22@ silga
Your plea is heartfelt but painfully naive and fantastical. The answer is to legalize the material and improve the entire situation ("make it its own punishment", as someone said; "remove the worst thing about it", I say). If the best cocaine in the world could be grown in an American climate, it would have been legalized yesterday and we'd have a Bill Gates-type telling us daily that it cures bad breath and cancer (think tobacco industry). The last person's fault this whole ***** is is the actual user, except in the small chance that that user has done something violent or otherwise "denying of a right" against someone else. I can't count on my hands the amount of utterly harmless friends of mine the American government has completely ***** over because the American government says drug use deserves rapist/murderer-level punishments.
If you legalize it right now, it's like you're bringing "back to life" the good cops whose sad destiny it is to die in this pointless ***** war. This whole thing is a travesty. - scottylist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16Don't forget the lasers. Gotta have the lasers.
- atticus8, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19@Bamont. Your post is so ludicrous I genuinely read it twice to see if you weren't trying to pull some incredibly dry sarcasm. Some potpourri:
"It doesn't matter what they've done, it's against the law. You don't have to agree with the law nor support it."
This line of "reasoning" is ass backwards. We derive laws from our morality, we (or, uh... normal people) don't derive our morality from whether something is legal or not. Your argument is what slave owners of the South used to tell abolitionists: "dont matter what we've done! ***** are property coz the gov'ment say so!"
"A person brings ***** on themselves, the American Government doesn't".
Our government once took down the legitimate Shah of a country, installed a militaristic despot, armed him, funded him, and then not two decades later, invaded the same country to much loss of life and cash. Guess what country (it's been in the news lately). But surely this is entirely my fault, and in no way the government's fault.
"It is the American's fault that Mexico is in the state its in, as well as Panama and Columbia."
And you are arguing for personal responsibility? Are you drunk?
"Your solutions to legalize things will open the door for people to be dumb"
It is lucky for the country, then, that your solution of keeping things illegal has closed the door on people people being dumb and taking any illegal drugs. A grateful nation is happy that everything is fine now.
"The only way to win this war is to support the governments that are trying to shut it down, offer up our agents and our military, to go in and shut them down." There is no problem your type feel they can't hit repeatedly with a crobar, no level of force sufficiently aggressive, no gun unwelcome. No, my simple-minded coz, "the only way to win this war" is to NOT HAVE IT.
"If we fought drugs on a more totalitarian front, we'd win." WOW.... I rest my case. "On a more totalitarian front"?!? You make me chuckle. It must trouble you every time you log onto Digg to see Kevin hasn't taken to your whole "go more totalitarian with it!" design concept. You must hate that I can dig you down to Chinatown. I WANT you to be able to dig me down, because that's DEMOCRATIC. It's something we've got going here in the U.S. Now go get 'em, Benito. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17It probably was $300 mil ;)
- cfisavant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I would buy you a house...
- barryq, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16more pics. That would make a nice bed.
http://fotos.eluniversal.com.mx/fotogaleria/wfg.html?gal=3405 - EBFoxbat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Home-grown pot and only domestic oil.... the key to an ethical life.
- Blasphemous88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I'm in the wrong business.
- avalenci, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11One third is for education and treatments , one third for the drug enforcement and the last third for the courts (Poder Judicial).
http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.asp?notaid=6c422ba0cb8bbbd5eb585e05bdc92586 (sorry for the source in spanish ) - tritun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11kinda makes you wonder how much WAS really there before they took the picture!
i don't believe for a minute that is all that was found! - robtrevino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@ everyone who was debating on the 'canadian' bills... those are obviously mexican bills, they are in mexico you know.
- ahhell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10If you're gonna spam the site, at least have it make some ***** sense, you douche.
- graemee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@xichael
Look again, those coloured bills are not Canadian money. That's not the Queen OR and PM I've ever seen. These are not Canadian. - atticus8, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Mencia reference = dugg way down
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I'm still wondering where the 9 Billion went?
- nubi78, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Here in Iowa they made pseudo ephedrine something you had to purchase over the counter. The do it yourself home meth lab business dropped tremendously. Now, our good friends in Mexico have taken over the supply side problem for us.
I suspect this bust will cause a spike in meth prices here in Iowa for about three minutes. - Flytrap, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16@ThisBlows: It takes a minute or two to review your post before you hit the submit button. And even after that, Digg gives you a further two minutes to ask yourself, this question "...am I making a valid contribution to this debate or just making an ass of myself?"
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Oh that is just a beautiful scene.
- FiP0, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13 GEORGE
Three million. I counted it twice.
DIEGO
It's two-point-five, George. I am sure.
George starts to pick up the money.
GEORGE
I'm calling it three.
DIEGO
We're half a million off.
GEORGE
***** it. I'm not counting it again.
DIEGO
Weight it. If it's sixty pounds, it's
three. If it's fifty, it's two-point
five.
GEORGE
I don't give a *****. Close enough. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@silga
or we could legalize it. that would effectively end every cartel without the need for violence. it's a win win. - nerditup, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9look at all the pink and purple.. our money is so gay
- trogdor282, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Pile of newspapers + good imagination = decent approximation?
- digency, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9yes sharks with frickin lasers strapped to their head!
- ogden, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Drugs have been used since the beginning of mankind. It is the height of arrogance and stupidity to think *ANYONE* can stop them
We should legalize drugs and the government should sell legal, *CHEAP*, *SAFE* (as safe as can be anyways) drugs, and keep the money. Start with pot, and then move on to other drugs. That pile of cash? Could be new freeways, better schools, health care. Instead we are giving it to vicious and dangerous people because a few idealogs. - festivalman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10You're being ignorant. Do you think organized crime didn't exist before illegal drugs?
- robtrevino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Mexico has one of the most advanced telecommunication network in the world...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@silga, perhaps citizens shouldn't "stop using drugs", but our governments should allow their people to truly be free and if we choose to smoke weed let us, then there won't be a huge black market where people are getting killed daily for no reason except government *****.
- iidestined, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6legalize and TAX to death!!!!
- DeusNova, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Wow, you only see that much money all together in movies.
- amphet, on 10/12/2007, -9/+13lovely a country founded by immigrants hating immingrants, I hope mexicans take over and send people like you to reservations in the middle of the desert never to be heard of again. doesn't that sounds familiar?
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