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Even the ARABS Admit they Created the Palestinian Refugees
yidwithlid.blogspot.com — The assertion that the Israelis drove the Arabs from Palestine is proven a lie by contemporary accounts of the Arabs (as well as British and other observers) themselves. Unfortunately for Israel haters, this pernicious falsehood is the fulcrum of their entire argument.
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- ssn697, on 05/20/2008, -3/+23I am plugging my ears, and turning back to the "BLAME THE JOOOOSSS!!!" channel now ;-)
- theblueprint, on 05/20/2008, -3/+27Quote from the article:
"We have come to you in order to liquidate the Zionists and their state. Leave your houses and villages, you will return to them in a few days safely. Leave them so we can fulfill our mission (destroy Israel) in the best way and so you won't be hurt."
According to this Palestinian, "Zionist" is synonymous with "Jew". I've always maintained that the Palestinian sympathizers are anti-Semites, and their use of the term "Zionist" does not absolve them from bigotry.
It's much like the white people who swear up and down they're not racist because they hate "*****" and not "black people". It's a semantic excuse to be bigoted without having the stones to be up front about it.- jcm267, on 05/20/2008, -1/+9Dude, there is a difference. It's probably overdone, but my feelings are summed up by the Chris Rock bit and Bill Cosby's speeches.
- theblueprint, on 05/20/2008, -1/+13I would agree that there's a difference between blacks who part of the "thug culture" and those who are not. The difference is that a non-black using the term "*****" is a racist who's proud to finally feel "justified" in using the term.
The difference is cultural, *not* racial."Chav culture" in England is the best example of this very phenomenon.
Chris Rock's famous "***** v. Black People" is different in that as a member of the culture, he may adopt said epithets without being a racist... much like I can call a fellow Italian a "guinea" but would punch a non-Italian for calling me one.
It's the use of the pejorative term (be it "Zionist" or "*****") that is racist, not the observation that ethnic groups and sub-groups are different. If the "anti-Zionists" had a beef with specific Israeli public figures or policies, they should be named. "Zionist" is simply a code-word for Jew.- jcm267, on 05/20/2008, -1/+7Well I, for one, would never use that word in any context around people I don't know. I have, however, used the term around black people that I do know.
The people who come to forums like these and say the same words that they would never say in public for no reason other than that it to troll or to espouse their pent-up racist ideology are the people you seem to be talking about here. Most people I know aren't afraid to use the term around people they know. And most of these people would never be considered a racist by just about anybody.
I agree with you, well almost. I would assume that a black person would take being called a ***** much more seriously than you would take being called a guinea, and understandably so. My friends have called me a "polack" before, and honestly I don't really into a furious rage over it. Most people don't even know that it's a derogatory term. Anyways, I'm starting to ramble. I'll stop now.
- jcm267, on 05/20/2008, -1/+7Well I, for one, would never use that word in any context around people I don't know. I have, however, used the term around black people that I do know.
- theblueprint, on 05/20/2008, -1/+13I would agree that there's a difference between blacks who part of the "thug culture" and those who are not. The difference is that a non-black using the term "*****" is a racist who's proud to finally feel "justified" in using the term.
- jcm267, on 05/20/2008, -1/+9Dude, there is a difference. It's probably overdone, but my feelings are summed up by the Chris Rock bit and Bill Cosby's speeches.
- monsieurginger, on 05/20/2008, -1/+14Do you think changes anything. The Arab leaders use the Palestinian refugee problem for popularity, not because they care about the Palestinians. They don't give a hoot about them. It's just popular in the Arab world to hate Jews/Israelis. Sometimes I hear Palestinian refugees blame the Arab leaders, but those are individual views and not the views of those leaders who represent the Palestinians.
- bluto36, on 05/20/2008, -1/+14so what if the Arab leaders started this whole idiocy. the joooooooooooooos won that war and the next war and the next war so it is their fault. the solution to this is so simple; joooooooooos lose war, arabs make jooooooooooos chose between bullet, head chop or swimming.
problem over. - jamesotis, on 05/26/2008, -2/+6When you consider the implications of this, you see that entirely obliterates one of the main underpinnings of the anti-Israeli argument.
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