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Enormous North Korean prison camp discovered with Google Earth

freekorea.us — It measures 18 miles by 16 miles. That’s nearly half the size of the state of Rhode Island.

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  • LetsGoHawks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15916 x 18 = 288
    Rhode Island is about 1,214 square miles

    288 / 1,214 = 23.7%

    So it's almost one-quarter the size of Rhode Island, not one-half.
  • kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -2/+53prison camp:
    41°18'56.48"N
    129°20'33.86"E
    • appetite, on 10/12/2007, -4/+31tonight there's gonna be a jail break.
    • scott1, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2Kim Jong Il will be punished in the most serve way for this......
    • LaueOfficer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13*cues Great Escape theme*


      Not because there is an escape, but because the song owns
  • Djmc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+30Probably 80% political prisoners
    • whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2where are the people though, did they remove them from the image?
    • LaueOfficer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@whiskeymb
      Satellite overflight times are VERY to obtain (you look up), they simply had them inside/the jungle/somewhere else.
    • 4UIDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5In a place like NK you can end up a "political prisoner" for anything. I bet it's just regular people there, who did not salute fast enough, or who got accused of spying over some personal squabble with a neighbor or coworker. It's never-ending 1984 over there.

      According to the CIA at https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/kn.html, NK officially has 23 million people, but that's hard to believe. I wonder if a third to a half has already been murdered by this brutal regime.

      I don't understand how this regime is allowed to continue over there, Russia, Japan, China, and S Korea are not exactly powerless.

      I thought from the start that invading Iraq was a really stupid idea, but if there was a decision to invade NK, I'd personally volunteer.

      Hey dudes, visit this site: http://www.nkradio.com/eng/main.html

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVA4kgVGmX0
  • mutatron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Looking at it on Google Earth, it's one of those magical places where water flows uphill.
  • RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -3/+215All of North Korea is a prison camp, as far as I'm concerned.
    • plugues, on 10/12/2007, -58/+18still it's the USA, aka DEMOCRACY FREEDOMLAND who holds the record for the largest imprisoned population in the world.

      as from being incarcerated in your own country, america might not fit in that category exactly, but they're sure locking the others out.
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -15/+44"still it's the USA, aka DEMOCRACY FREEDOMLAND who holds the record for the largest imprisoned population in the world.

      as from being incarcerated in your own country, america might not fit in that category exactly, but they're sure locking the others out."

      Maybe they are in jail because - they commit crimes. America has one of the largest immigrant populations in the world, and issues hundreds of thousands of visa's per year. Must be fun living in such a delusional state.
    • plugues, on 10/12/2007, -12/+16"give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free", right?

      you go and say that to mexican immigrants in texas, or to pretty much anyone who steps on an airport in the usa.
    • EuphopiaB, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6"still it's the USA, aka DEMOCRACY FREEDOMLAND who holds the record for the largest imprisoned population in the world."

      Do you know what Per Capita is?
    • plugues, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4i'm sure you meant "per 100 thousand inhabitants", which is usually appied to data such as this one. per capita simply wouldn't make sense, think about it.

      still, it's a lot of people.

      i simply do not believe in imprisonment, though i'm sure this sounds like too much for the average american. i recommend "discipline and punishment: the birth of the prison", by michel foucault for anyone who seriously wants to discuss the jail system without sounding like a repeater beacon.

      (guantanamo anyone?)
    • shoota, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15per capita we have the highest inmate population as well, outpacing china.
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/07/AR2006060702050.html
      if you don't believe me
    • uttles, on 10/12/2007, -8/+35Well we could just shoot our criminals in the head like they do in China, then we'd have a lower prison population.
    • Ryan83, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Half of everyone in federal prison has a drug related charge. Our vigorous prosecution of the war on drugs is the reason we jail more people per capita than any other civilization in history, with a handful of exceptions, such as the Soviet Union at the height of the Gulag. The war on drugs is really a war on our own society. It creates an informant society, undermines civil liberties, and defines an underclass of citizens we can throw in to cages. Their system of prisons ruins few people's lives per capita than ours does. In their defense, at least a totalitarian regime needs to crack down on free thought. America doesn't benefit at all with its prison system.
    • 4UIDigg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@Ryan83

      Yeah, most criminal offenses in the US are drug related.

      I think that a serious problem with the war on drugs is that drug addiction in the US is viewed as a crime rather than a mental illness. At the same time, there is a chronic shortage of facilities that treat chemical dependency, and those that exist are very very expensive. Imagine if a family member got into drugs, where could you take them to heal?
    • HardSide, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5"Maybe they are in jail because - they commit crimes. America has one of the largest immigrant populations in the world, and issues hundreds of thousands of visa's per year. Must be fun living in such a delusional state."


      Hate to burst your bubble, but Canada actually has a bigger immigration population in the world. They also have the largest black communities in the world besides africa...

      Wanna give it a second shot?

      America has the largest prison and crime rate in the world....because....wait for it...because ignorant ***** like you live there. Thank you have a good day.
    • williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I can't believe the people who are in denial about the fact we are "farming" young black men in this country to feed the prison industry. The numbers don't lie. We far outpace Russia and China in imprisoning our own citizens. Is it because our police are so good at solving crimes? Ha! Look at the crime solution rates: they suck and are in long-term decline.

      The facts are that the U.S. is a police state, and has a powerful prison lobby. Get on your knees and thank God you are not black and poor, or your odds would suck. And don't think that the prison industry won't look at you as a growth opportunity, soon.
  • habfan29, on 10/12/2007, -53/+1Dead at 42.
  • redmond007, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2site's down
  • Antimatty, on 10/12/2007, -17/+2mirrors anyone?
    • sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+50Sorry, no. I'm a vampire.
    • kyote, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I used to work with vampires at at&t when I worked the overnight shift. very entertaining.
  • Rekzai, on 10/12/2007, -16/+2Digg suspended a site hahaha
  • Toasterstrudull, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29How can you tell that it is a prison camp? It seems to me it might just be an army base or something.

    PS: Just search the following coordinates on maps.google.com and you can see it.

    41°18'56.48"N, 129°20'33.86"E
    • theratster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5It doesn't look like a prison camp... I can't see a fence, any watchtowers, and it looks pretty easily accessible in case of an escape...
    • brlittle, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Yeah. Didn't you know all prison camps have giant parade grounds?

      What the *****?
    • Fhionnlaoch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9"This is the Gulag Rura Penthe. There is no guard tower. No electronic frontier. Only a magnetic field prevents beaming. Here, disobedience is punished by exile to the surface. [A naked man is dragged out of the prison and thrown into the tundra] Work well, and you will be treated well. Work badly, and you will die."
    • OsakaWilson, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Exactly. I see no evidence of this being a prison camp. Anyone see any evidence? Guard towers, layers of fencing, etc. It could be lots of different things.
    • directedition, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16What the hell are you talking about? Not all prisons are built in near/in cities or inhabited areas. Japan frequently used remote locations to hold prisoners of war because they could skip the cost of building walls and guard towers. This location is extremely remote. There are very few vehicles (unusual for a military base isn't it?), and has no apparent purpose beyond maybe weapons R&D (Which many have reported is often tested on prisoners).

      Just because it doesn't fit your action movie image of what a prison looks like doesn't mean it isn't one. All thing considered there are few things it could be but a prison.
    • crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Hey, wait a minute...they have shuffleboard, and the fourth building from the coordinates, that looks like a day spa!
    • hplasm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's Kim's little Manhattan Project...
    • autodata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Those coordinates are not for the main camp. Those buildings are almost certainly for soldiers and camp admin. The first gate is on road where it exists the buildings on the south east. For you guys who don't see the fence, go from the wide straight line that bisects the buildings and follow it north east. That line through the trees is the fence.
  • Junn168, on 10/12/2007, -85/+11As a liberal, I think Kim Jong Ill is a great man. I wish more leaders were like him and not like Chimpy Mcflightsuit.
    • imightbewrong, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21are you serious?
      or failing to be funny with an anti bush joke?
    • appetite, on 10/12/2007, -7/+46you're not a liberal, you just pose as one on digg and say ridiculous things because you were born with no balls.
    • VeryAngryJim, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6I get the feeling you're a Conservative just trying to make Liberals look stupid.
    • mourningdove, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14if you're making a Stephanie Miller reference, it's "Chimpy McCokeSpoon". I'm a little glad you tripped on the punchline, though, because your comment sucked.
    • Junn168, on 10/12/2007, -30/+7I hate freedom. Thats why I vote Democrat in every election. As a liberal, its my duty to oppose liberty and justice.
    • thadiusdean, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11^^Yeah... he's not liberal.
    • Junn168, on 10/12/2007, -26/+2All you conservatives freaks digging me down can go to hell. George Bush= Hitler

      Liberals > Conservatives !!!
    • appetite, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6Wow, you really are a liberal. Do us all a favor and hide somewhere for the rest of your life.
    • aviazn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It's Chimpy McHitlerBush! At least, that's the variation all the blogs I read use.
    • coreyb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I am neither but you sir are blocked...
    • aviazn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Oh wait, no, it's Chimpy McHitlerburton. That's my favorite one.
    • jaythree9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@mourningdove: K to the J in the hizzy
  • rlh1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+31Impossible!

    Communism = Utopia and Social Justice.
  • Z123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+42Coordinate Link:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=41%C2%B018%2756.48%22N+129%C2%B020%2733.86%22E&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=41.315691,129.342749&spn=0.01278,0.028796&t=k&om=1
    • cw1925, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4The loading is slow. Here's a pic of it in the meantime: http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5082/24065118gr4.png
    • autodata, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That actually looks like a support area around the northern gate where soldiers live. Notice that this is on the north perimeter and that the first checkpoint on that road is actually just as the road exists to the south west and travels into the area contained in the perimeter. The next check point is on the road is about 6 1/2 miles to the south on the southern end of the perimeter.
  • dacapoalfine, on 10/12/2007, -10/+0Kim Jong Il FTW!!!!

    but seriously. wow.
  • herkdrvr, on 10/12/2007, -8/+18No watchtowers, no large fences...not a prison camp. Buildings are set up in typical North Korean fashion--complete conformity...but this is not a camp.
    • TheOther1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Agreed.
    • curomo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6and there's no way that's 18x16 miles. looked like bout 2000x3000 ft just guess on the google earth scale.

      buried, inaccurate.
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16"No watchtowers, no large fences...not a prison camp. Buildings are set up in typical North Korean fashion--complete conformity...but this is not a camp."

      It is not uncommon for camps to have no walls etc, I do believe that there were some confederate/southern prisons with the same sort of no-wall design.
      Please Read.

      http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/world/dprk/dprk-hoeryong-camp.htm

      And I quote.
      "The camps are not surrounded by walls, but reportedly, the prison camps encompass areas as large as Washington DC."

      If you look at the images, they are nearly identical to this camp.
    • ldkronos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2@curomo

      I agree completely. If you look across the road (to the southwest) from the main group of buildings, you can see what appears to be a couple of cargo trucks. Using that as a scale, the majority extent of the base is maybe 3 to 5 city blocks in length. I'd estimate the whole area fits in about a square mile.

      Edit: In fact, here's a link to it on Google Maps.
      http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=41%C2%B018%2756.48%22N,+129%C2%B020%2733.86%22E&ie=UTF8&z=13&ll=41.319076,129.368649&spn=0.074003,0.195007&t=h&om=1&iwloc=addr

      (or search for 41°18'56.48"N, 129°20'33.86"E )

      Now look at the scale in the bottom left corner. You can see, the majority of that camp does indeed fit into roughly a square mile. Furthermore, an 18x16 mile square is huge, and consists of about 99% forested hills.
    • directedition, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@curomo

      I know it's a stretch, but if you follow the road you will find many smaller camps scattered around the vacinity.
    • kdehead, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2the 18x16 estimate (which came from the story i linked to) is an estimate of the total area surrounded by fencing. its not a measurement of the size of the actual camps inside.

      have a look at the southern gate entrance
      41°13′52.73″N 129°24′44.31″E

      see the fencing going off to the east and west? now, just follow it and you'll get an idea of the vastness of it.
  • pmghost, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2http://duggmirror.com
  • heynow21, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38This looks like a job for the A-Team.
    • MindTrigger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"I love it when a plan comes together."
  • erikf, on 10/12/2007, -8/+6Another success of socialism.
  • deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -19/+1And.....? Add up all the jails in the US and they would be MUCH bigger.
    • TheOther1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4And?...
    • aschocobo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10@deadbaby:

      US prisons may be in horrible shape, but at the very least, people (as well as their husbands, wives, children, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, and any other related family member you can think of) aren't in there for verbally criticizing their country.
    • directedition, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5At least prisoners in the US don't get nerve toxin weapons testing from their shower rooms or get randomly beaten to death and their organs ripped out and given to rich people from across the world.
  • Enchantrem, on 10/12/2007, -15/+20isn't all of North Korea a prison camp?
    • sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27Didn't RadiantBeing say that 45 minutes before you?
    • Enchantrem, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4why yes. yes he did.

      /me beats self with stupid stick.

      digg me down plzkthxbye
  • TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Maybe that's where everyone gets a pony and ice cream. What evidence says it is a prison camp? Maybe when the site gets revived there is some context, looks like the source is suspiciously partisan...
  • emblemparade, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Right, just like Christopher Columbus "discovered" America.

    You get a gold star for careful use of Google Earth and a sharp eye, but a death star for "slight" exaggeration.
  • JNTX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Any proof that this is a prison camp?
    • imightbewrong, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6you don't need proof when you've got instinct -reservoir dogs
  • wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Without any up close view, or any other corroboration, there really isn't anything to tell what this is. Could almost be anything. Barracks, factory, prison camp, almost anything.
  • jester11, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1What the North Koreans are bad? You mean like part of that whole Axis of Evil thing, that a certain elected official spoke about, get right on the ***** out of here. Who'd a thunk it!!
  • popngen, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2so far, there is no proof this is an actual prison camp.

    i don't see prison camp written anywhere. if it was, then let's bomb it! yeee hawwww! cowboy diplomacy!!!
    • TheOther1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Good idea! Let's bomb all those poor bastards locked up in the camp! We may actually kill 3 or 4 guards along with the 5,000 innocent prisoners.
      Dumbass.
  • directedition, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wish they had better images of DPRK. So many are very low quality and public satelite imaging is a great opportunity to spot these exact kinds of things. From descriptions by prison guards, we should be able to spot massive fields of dead prisoners.
  • elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1How do we know this is a prison camp?

    Maybe it's a military camp, or just condensed housing?
    • chriskzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I would call a prison "condensed housing."
    • directedition, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3There are no vehicles or other military hardware in sight. No towns or anything of strategic importance nearby.
    • elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2There are also no walls or guard towers in sight.
    • directedition, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1elnerdo:

      Look directly below this post for your answer.
    • agimat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"There are also no walls or guard towers in sight."

      They have starving ninjas watching the place, so no need.


      /oh, and elnerdo, directedition was refering to the posting following this silliness
  • TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1If it's a prison camp why are there numerous small buildings as opposed to a single contiguous monolithic structure? None of the typical prison trappings are visible, no double fence lines, guard towers, etc.
  • iamshades, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0looks more like a village of some sort.
  • crzdmnsldy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Hey, you know that also looks just like a military base.
    • directedition, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pretty crappy base being in the middle of nowhere with no vehicles of any kind around.
  • indyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Looks like a cookie-cutter subdivision in the SW United States to me...

    Check this kdehead - I suppose you'll suggest it's a message to alien visitors (hey, it's pretty close to Area 51!)
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.627187,-116.847925&spn=0.024161,0.031672&t=k&hl=en
  • Jeeum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Where does the 18 miles by 16 miles measurement come from?

    Looks like about one square mile to me.
  • Rikushix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What's more amazing is what that says about the size of Rhode Island.
  • daxsymbiont, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2usa with its empty prisons
  • KiTchMe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It's nowhere near the size you claim...So inaccurate and lame as it's probably some residential/army barracks...Buried 18 miles down...That's half way to China
  • Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3If you zoom in close enough on the barracks, you can see where Hogan was hiding the radio.
  • kitaljevich, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1http://www.duggmirror.com
  • riotroot, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1How big is Guantanamo-base?
    • scott1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Not even close to the size of Kim Jong Il main prison a.k.a North Korea.
    • Tangaroa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Guantanamo is tiny. It's just one bay and some surrounding land. It probably holds no more than a couple thousand people including US personnel.
    • KDX200rider, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@riotroot
      Guantanamo is also not secret.
    • riotroot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Who cares if the prison camps are a secret or not? Sure, the Guantanamo isn't a secret, but how does that change what's going on there? I like most other are disgusted by the oppression in North Korea. My point was to draw a parallel between the North Korean oppression and that of the U.S of A.
  • ninjabrun, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0everybody know the size of Rhode Island...
  • herkdrvr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@ mirunit

    I read the reference you pointed out. I stand corrected in that I declared with certainty it was not a prison camp. Based on your source, it may very well be. Who the heck knows what they are doing in NK. That said, I don't think it's nearly the size claimed, nor do I believe that this is an anomaly...NK is known for oppressing their people. Their whole country is a prison.
    • mirunit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2np, it's not everyday you see a prison camp with no walls. But when you think about it, it makes sense as the guards are bound to have guns and there is nowhere to go even if you do escape - considering the terrain and a probable lack of adequate supplies/clothing.
  • IVIrMP3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't see rows of Fences and Razor Wire. I don't see any fence for that matter. Would be the easier prison camp to escape from. Walk out the door and get lost in 100 miles of forest.
    • NoSuchAgency, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2There's a key phrase in what you just said... it's "get lost in 100 miles of forest". These would be undernourished prisoners clad in thin cotton uniforms, not Rambo with a week's worth of k-rats and a bivvy bag.
    • floorman56, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Google earth shows MINE FIELDS? If it doesn't there is your answer to the missing fences.
  • Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Behold the glories of Communism! Thank God North Korea didn't fall to the evils of capitalism like the poor oppressed peoples of South Korea.
    • ebola, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Communism != despotic maniacal dictatorship, you moron. NK's western neighbor is hard core communist and they seem to be doing pretty well for themselves, in fact we have the US indebted to them to the tune of over a billion dollars.
    • Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6The only reason China's economy is flourishing is because they've allowed it to become incredibly capitalist. At the same time, the government remains one of the largest abusers of human rights in the world and is synonymous with repression and corruption, so I don't think your claim really holds much weight.
  • riotroot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_communism
  • fershizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6if you keep following the road that runs east(ish) there are more building arranged like the first set. (links below) could these be other prisons too?

    http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=41.342241&lon=129.246515&z=18.5&r=0&src=ggl
    http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=41.343679&lon=129.265306&z=18.5&r=0&src=ggl
    http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=41.345513&lon=129.278305&z=18.5&r=0&src=ggl

    anyway, nice digg. creepy too...
    • headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5That would account for the size mentioned by the submitter. Most of us are looking at the one section, and saying, "No way that's 18 x 16 miles!". But that one section could be just that: A section. All pieces put together may add up to the claimed size.
    • fershizzle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2i see. that makes more a lot more sense. i agree with the above
  • ryanohara, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Wow does that ever make you feel insignificant. There is really nothing we can do to help them or is there? Any thoughts?
  • reboare, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Charleeeee......come to candy mountain....Charleeee! I mean, Comrade Charleee!
  • mikedoth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10We've gotta get Chuck Norris off the Total Gym and back into some Missing in Action 3 action.
  • digbird, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I wonder if this is old news: The report someone referenced above at http://www.hrnk.org/hiddengulag/images/Overview.jpg

    came out in late 2002, I think (or maybe 2003). I have a feeling that this is one of the facilities that that report references.

    Anyone who would even think of arguing that the condition prisoners are kept in is worse in the USA than in North Korea ought to read books like "This is Paradise!" and/or the "Aquariums of Pyongyang." (but then, people who would think that would probably dismiss what those books reveal as propaganda so what's the point?)

    http://www.amazon.com/This-Paradise-Hyok-Kang/dp/0349118655/sr=1-1/qid=1170993136/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-4573029-1204028?ie=UTF8&s=books
    http://www.amazon.com/Aquariums-Pyongyang-Years-North-Korean/dp/0465011047/sr=1-1/qid=1170993248/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-4573029-1204028?ie=UTF8&s=books

    It never fails to amaze me that the North Korean prison camp system hasn't become a major human rights issue. It is FAR worse than what went on in Apartheid South Africa, Pinochet's Chile, or the West Bank.

    While there are a number of reasons for its anonymity, I think one is that a lot of human rights campaigners and left wing activists "weep from the left eye" (i.e. they only care if the human rights violations are taking place in a right wing country).
  • scottelloco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Hopefully North Korea won't learn from their enemies and build more small prisons in greater numbers instead of a few large prisons in small numbers.
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