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- diggmeordie, on 06/08/2009, -0/+32The cartel are all a bunch of nade spamming, martyrdom using noobs.
- cybershoplifter, on 06/08/2009, -2/+24It seems like airborne lead is killing more people than the airborne flu!
- Shipyaad, on 06/08/2009, -4/+26Final score: Army 16, Cartel 2.
I'm glad to see that the Mexican government is finally doing something about these *****. Also, an 8:1 kill ratio? Not too shabby, especially without any air or ass. - treas, on 06/08/2009, -12/+28Easier way to eliminate drug cartels: legalize drugs.
they're a social problem, not a criminal one (unless you've got prohibition) - MacParrot, on 06/08/2009, -0/+15You can't be serious. The drug cartels have zero interest in changing drugs laws as it's very illegality is what's making them more money.
- Swivelstick, on 06/08/2009, -1/+13But it already is??
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 06/08/2009, -1/+12You've just got to love this drug war. Anyone who cares to get high still can and does, and yet we can still have hundreds of people dying in gang clashes with each other and the law. It's the best of both worlds!
- inactive, on 06/08/2009, -0/+9End the War on Drugs.
- mikbunn, on 06/08/2009, -1/+10When they're rampaging around, killing police and innocent civilians, trying to establish cartel governance, and attempting to destroy the rule of law, yeah, it is.
- Loki101, on 06/08/2009, -0/+8And killing a whole lot of innocent people in the process, while destroying the futures of a whole lot more.
- DemiRonin, on 06/08/2009, -0/+8No one click on this...and I'm not saying that so that you'll click on it
- ArchivalQuality, on 06/08/2009, -0/+8That's a Hollywood level body count.
- skipvt, on 06/08/2009, -0/+8What a way to top off your dream vacation.
- Fhwqhgads, on 06/08/2009, -6/+14Oh the things legalization would prevent.
- treas, on 06/08/2009, -4/+11Yeah, like this one time I rattled out a totally unrelated metaphor and then killed myself.
- emjaymj, on 06/08/2009, -1/+8Yes, the people in the cartels are generally very bad people.
But their situation, a mix of social pressures, extreme poverty, and the opportunity we give them by keeping drugs illegal is very conducive to breeding these kind of people and allowing them to thrive.
One of those three elements is CLEARLY within our power to fix. - 64bitllama, on 06/08/2009, -0/+7Heroin already exists. It is just frequently poor quality/adulterated and a ridiculously high price (enough for addicts to throw their life away over) All the proceeds are currently going to support the black market and fund gun smuggling and violent crime.
People who desire it can already get it. Should we throw these people in jail, or reduce the risks and ensure that the money goes towards rehabilitation, health care, and education? Or do you think violent crime is better? - SpeedSteamBoat, on 06/08/2009, -1/+7The cartels, by definition, deal in black market drugs, so if their is no more black market what do you think happens to said cartels?
For the record, the Drug War has virtually single handedly created the American paramilitary police state. You don't see military battles fought in the streets of LA, but you do see SWAT style police squads storming college apartments and shooting innocent people.
No one is saying that ending prohibition is going to end violence entirely, but it would obviously go a long way to help. It worked in the 1930s. The mob was seriously weakened thanks to the end of prohibition, and the law was finally able to catch up to them. It's the same today. Cut off the vast majority of revenue these people use to fund their illegal activities and we might stand a chance of effectively cracking down on their other, real crimes. - 64bitllama, on 06/08/2009, -0/+5The majority of demand for black market commodities is in drugs. How much of a demand is there for sex slavery? Yes, cartels might still supply that vice, but they would be greatly crippled if all drugs where legalized and moved to a regulated market. Human smuggling, gun smuggling, poaching, etc are all supplied by cartels whose main profits come from drugs. Remove those profits, downsize cartels.
Sure they might not disappear, but it would certainly be an improvement. - samard2002, on 06/08/2009, -1/+6Hey. Where's the last guy? Ultimo hombre. Last man standing, must've been one.
- sodade, on 06/08/2009, -0/+5I agree with you, but at the same time, why do we have to make it ***** easy for them by making cannabis illegal? I have yet to hear a valid justification for cannabis prohibition.
- creepnitreal420, on 06/08/2009, -0/+4@linden Trust you eh? You think because someone chooses a lifestyle other than your own it makes them weak? How does myself wanting to have a nice joint after work to relax make me any worse of a person than you with your Brazilian fart fetish porn.
'I know, sometimes it's much easier to blame the government rather than blame ourselves'
Aw yes but why blame ourselves for a problem we had no part in creating. - inactive, on 06/08/2009, -1/+5I...had the tiiiiiime of my liiiiife!
Sandals Resort, book now or call your travel agent - 64bitllama, on 06/08/2009, -1/+5Prescriptive vs normative. It's one thing to talk about the way the world *should* be, but it's completely different to talk about the way the world actually is.
Oh the things that would be prevented if fundamental religious people didn't exist.
Oh the things that would be prevented if people didn't have the need/desire to murder
Oh the things that would be prevented if people cared more about the state of their government.
etc etc etc
Go write a Utopian fantasy. - datek2517, on 06/08/2009, -0/+4Don't click the link.
BAN THIS *****. - greeniemeani, on 06/08/2009, -1/+5You accidentally Mexico economy.
- rft3rd, on 06/08/2009, -1/+4I said NO 203's before :45!
- votingprawn, on 06/08/2009, -5/+8*hums tune* 'cause you'll be going loco down in Acapulco..
I'm sorry, someone had to. - inactive, on 06/08/2009, -0/+3AMerica, ***** YEAH!... oooweee!
- sodade, on 06/08/2009, -2/+5"how hard is that?"
Apparently, pretty ***** hard - as in give it the ***** up boyscout - it ain't gonna happen.
How frustrating that we have to wait for you morons to figure that out before we can come up with real solutions. - robbiedo, on 06/08/2009, -0/+3Remember when Game Shows offered as the top prize a a beautiful week in Acapulco. I hate fearing travel.
- Fhwqhgads, on 06/08/2009, -1/+3Here's another question. Would you rather the money from these things went to legal businesses and governments, or to organized crime and terrorist organizations?
Drop the delusions you've drowned yourself in. - Lunarbunny, on 06/08/2009, -1/+3Acapulco Lead.
- greeniemeani, on 06/08/2009, -1/+3Damn, that's a horrible kill ratio...
- HerrWolf, on 06/09/2009, -0/+2The only problem is that you'd be cutting the rivers of drug money that corrupt authorities get from the whole thing.
- Fhwqhgads, on 06/08/2009, -1/+3^^ nice backtracking there buddy.
Open a history book pal and read up on prohibition.
How hard is it to stop drinking? How hard is it to stop taking drugs that the TV and the doctor tell you to swallow? Think they don't have negative effects? Oh they've been declared safe by the drug company enforcement arm, the FDA so that makes them completely harmless, right?
Yes it would be nice if people stopped taking ALL drugs and unhealthy substances but it ain't gonna happen in either or our lifetimes.
Pull your head out of your ass. - Polycarp87, on 06/08/2009, -0/+2Cartels are a business. If their income decreases, they have to downsize. There are few things that bring in so much money as drugs, because their use is so widespread and demand is so high. If the government illegalizes something with a strong and widespread demand, you will see a black market develop with the profits fueling violence. It happened with alcohol, it is happening now with drugs.
Who really believes that the number of people who have been protected from harming themselves because of prohibition is fewer than the number of people who have been killed, injured, or grown up fatherless because of the war on drugs. The war is causing more damage than the drugs they are trying to ban. - HerrWolf, on 06/09/2009, -0/+2"Bullet flu", as Jon Stewart put it.
- secrity, on 06/08/2009, -0/+2Black market cigarettes illustrate the problem of excessively high taxes.
- inactive, on 06/08/2009, -0/+1Well not clicking it, but I'm curious what that link is to? Porn? lol
- MacParrot, on 06/08/2009, -0/+1Next time try the soup
- CRCulver, on 06/08/2009, -0/+1It's a Rick Roll.
- Praelior, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1@gleongelpi, Apparently you don't know anyone who has ODed on heroin.
- inactive, on 06/08/2009, -4/+5Drug users are a criminal problem however, a junkie would steal his own friend's stereo to pay for his fix.
Legalize weed but and divert resources to the hard stuff like Meth, this drug has literally ruined many rural communities. - mrgreenjeans, on 06/08/2009, -0/+1Told you, I ain't got no agua.
- dancantone, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1Yup...you're dumb!
- inactive, on 06/08/2009, -0/+1That's it? From the uproar above I thought it would be something disturbing.
- secrity, on 06/09/2009, -0/+1Acapulco was at one time a glamorous destination, but it is now a ***** hole. There a a great many places to visit in Mexico that are much better than Acapulco.
- treas, on 06/08/2009, -0/+1You sure about that?
And that's beside the point, because the act of stealing would get him thrown in jail. Why should we pre-emptively jail people? It seems to be opposite the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" - inactive, on 06/08/2009, -8/+8If you legalized drugs, you really think it would make the cartels go away?
We have drug dealers in America too but you don't see military battles fought in the streets of LA daily to put them down, because we are a nation of law and order and swift justice and don't let such ***** get out of hand.
This is more a result of the failure of the corrupt Mexican state to provide security and stability. If we legalized drugs the cartels would find a new product, be it sex slavery, or some other vice, they are too big to just pack their bags and retreat into obscurity. -
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