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youtube.com — Do you think the media owners are trying to inform you, entertain you or distract you from what ’s really going on? And are your leaders fighting a 'War on Terror' on your behalf? Or waging a war of terror on you?
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- sickswaystop, on 06/30/2008, -5/+11These ideas and these stories will never surface past the depths of the internet, what are we fighting for? The documentaries are a breath of fresh air... but good luck guys. Find some hard evidence, and prove your case... rather than using the same jumbled news story bits with the same tired theories... where is the truth to your theory, all you have are pieces to the puzzle now make them fit. Alex Jones may be angry but if he's smart he will tone things down and try to break into the MSM.
- GeoffChang, on 06/30/2008, -1/+13You don't have a clue, do you? The MSM is still afraid of getting Anthrax in their mail, or did that not even happen shortly after September of 2001? No one's coming to save you this time. You can't rush into your local police station and hand over the bloody gun, or go to the news with the names and facts. The evidence gets lost, and the story gets pushed back until it's not credible.
Tower 7 never fell. %80 of Tower 1 disintegrated for no reason, and that's okay. There's nothing to worry about. If there's evidence, I'm sure the biggest networks will be the first to tell you about it. - vault, on 06/30/2008, -13/+9Posting youtube videos and commenting on them isn't really fighting anything. It's the lazy man's activism.
Wouldn't expect much different from the Alex Jones crowd, though.- iancgi, on 06/30/2008, -4/+9Yes who uses the internet, its just a fad anyway. The way to win this war is to inform our fellow man. Guess what the internet is worldwide. IMO this is the best place to effect people.
- vault, on 06/30/2008, -5/+8Oh right, I forgot...those youtube comment activists really do "effect" people in meaningful ways.
Please, it's just the place you can think you are "effecting" people without having to get up and go outside. A real activist goes to protests, attends rallies, organizes boycotts, pickets outside wherever, etc.
The troofers are just obese and sit in front of their mom's Dell with a mountain dew, make a few comments on youtube, upload a video or two, and call it a day. That changes nothing. - ssn697, on 06/30/2008, -4/+4They don't have time to work within their county or state government to affect change. Much to busy putting together video clips with voice overs, blaming the great NWO in the sky for their failure.
- GeoffChang, on 06/30/2008, -1/+13You don't have a clue, do you? The MSM is still afraid of getting Anthrax in their mail, or did that not even happen shortly after September of 2001? No one's coming to save you this time. You can't rush into your local police station and hand over the bloody gun, or go to the news with the names and facts. The evidence gets lost, and the story gets pushed back until it's not credible.
- Kormiku, on 06/30/2008, -20/+5this movie is boring and takes too long to get going. buried
- iancgi, on 06/30/2008, -3/+21How Ironic, this culture of quick fun and entertainment has dumbed you down so much and lowered your attention span you cant even sit to watch a video that gives you the other side of the equation.
Have fun being a slave.- jotate, on 06/30/2008, -6/+1Even if the movie offers good information, the fact that it's presented in a ***** fashion is a perfectly reasonable justification for burying it or not watching it.
Have fun being a rebel who spends all his time coming up with witty phrases like "sheeple" but ultimately changing nothing. - AnotherDiggGuy, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3high quality videos != more accurate information
- jotate, on 06/30/2008, -6/+1Even if the movie offers good information, the fact that it's presented in a ***** fashion is a perfectly reasonable justification for burying it or not watching it.
- kemp34, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5Pure irony.
- iancgi, on 06/30/2008, -3/+21How Ironic, this culture of quick fun and entertainment has dumbed you down so much and lowered your attention span you cant even sit to watch a video that gives you the other side of the equation.
- MrFunStuff, on 06/30/2008, -2/+12Dude this is only piece of the puzzle A very complex puzzle that nobody is going to put together for You. This video pokes holes in the official story given about 911. It's meant to get people to question why does none of the mainstream media ever cover any of this at all? a 9 min youtube video wont have all the answers. IF your really looking for truth your going to have to look for it and verify it yourself, because I can guarantee if you rely on other people to spoon feed you the truth you are going to get ***** in your mouth. The key here is to question everything and verify everything yourself. Did thermite pour out of one of the world trade centers? Did BBC report about building 7 before it collapsed? Did people hear explosions before the planes hit? We live in a time where billions of dollars are being spent to find new ways to deceive you. Vigilance is the only defense.
- CasaMan, on 06/30/2008, -10/+2Oh noes.. It's all a deliberate lie from the government, big oil, big pharma, the Jews AND especially the media to control the world! Be skeptic! Narf.. buried..
Learn how to become a real skeptic and not some nut-job conspiracy theorist watch (or listen to his great podcast):
http://herebedragonsmovie.com/- ThickGreenPuke, on 06/30/2008, -0/+6I will ask you just one question. This is an honest question and it isn't just pointed towards CasaMan. Anyone who can answer it is welcomed. I haven't found an answer to this yet so you might be able to answer it since you know where the conspiracy theorists are at fault.
Q: Why hasn't the pentagon released any footage of plane hitting the building on 9/11? I want the clear footage where you can actually see the plane. They have said that it would be a security risk to release such footage. Could you point out what that security risk would be since only the exterior of building will be included in that video.- jotate, on 06/30/2008, -2/+2You can say things like "What if it wasn't a plane?" You can even hypothesize about what it might have been. But once you start piecing together random tidbits to fit your previously unjustified hypothesis, that's when you become a nut-job conspiracy theorist. By definition.
- ThickGreenPuke, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3@jotate: you didn't answer my question. Clearly a government building like pentagon has security cameras, so where is the video?
- CasaMan, on 06/30/2008, -2/+2Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
The lack of video evidence does not discount the fact that a plane hit the pentagon..
Luckily there is enough proof!
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg ... - ThickGreenPuke, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3"Absence of proof is not proof of absence."
You are correct about your statement. But why is there absence of a videotape? - CasaMan, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1let met ask you why is this question so relevant to you?
- ThickGreenPuke, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3you can say that I am curious. now back to the question.
- CasaMan, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Ok, so your sticking to the ground with your logical fallacy.. This way i can't explain "where you are at fault" with your thought process.. Besides that it's a bit childish.. I must admit i don't know the answer and frankly i don't care, just like the rest of the world.. The question is totally irrelevant to the fact a plane hit the Pentagon.. The only people who think this is a relevant question are nut-job conspiracy theorist because they think it is a valid argument against the real truth (that a plane hit the pentagon on 9/11).. It's not!
- contemplator, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3That is a classic right here. The defender of the official story cannot give solid proof of his theories. He resorts to defaming the challengers character. And then he attempts weakly to discredit the question altogether. It seems that just about anyone who gets involved in this subject turns into a hate spewing crazy person.
Can you all see what they have done besides bring down some buildings?
They have separated us and given us something to hate each other about. Divide and conquer, right?
Wake up! - ThickGreenPuke, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3"I must admit i don't know the answer and frankly i don't care, just like the rest of the world.. The question is totally irrelevant to the fact a plane hit the Pentagon."
I think the question is perfectly reasonable. Wouldn't you say it is odd that a government building doesn't have any security footage which clearly shows a plane hitting? Wouldn't it be much easier for them to just show the footage and silence all these "nut-job conspiracy theorists"? - CasaMan, on 07/02/2008, -2/+1"silence all these "nut-job conspiracy theorists"?"
Do you really think they the gorvernment care about you?? There could be a lots reasons they didn't release a tape.. Silencing the conspiracy theorist is a probably of a very very very low priority.. Frankly you guys are just a bunch of loons.
"The defender of the official story cannot give solid proof of his theories."
They can, there is just no video.. The "no video" argument is a fallacy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
"And then he attempts weakly to discredit the question altogether."
My point is totally valid. Nothing weak about it. - ThickGreenPuke, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2asking for video is a fallacy? what is wrong about asking for video? it is not like the plane crashed into middle of nowhere. you never gave an answer to that. if it is a fallacy point out what it is? logical fallacy? where am i going wrong in logic? since you are calling me a "loon" i think it shows that your argument is weak and you don't know the subject matter well enough.
- CasaMan, on 07/02/2008, -1/+1By thinking the absence of a video is proof of a government coverup..
I called you loons when hypotisysing about why the government doesn't release the video alltough you guys are whining about it. It doesn't devaluete my argument that your argument is a logical falacy a bit.
Also i didn't say the question is a falacy, i say the conclusion those nut-job conspiracy theorist draw from it is a logical falacy..
- contemplator, on 07/01/2008, -1/+3That is a classic right here. The defender of the official story cannot give solid proof of his theories. He resorts to defaming the challengers character. And then he attempts weakly to discredit the question altogether. It seems that just about anyone who gets involved in this subject turns into a hate spewing crazy person.
- ThickGreenPuke, on 06/30/2008, -0/+6I will ask you just one question. This is an honest question and it isn't just pointed towards CasaMan. Anyone who can answer it is welcomed. I haven't found an answer to this yet so you might be able to answer it since you know where the conspiracy theorists are at fault.
- swrostmore, on 06/30/2008, -9/+4LOLex Jones
- stakepie, on 06/30/2008, -11/+6I'm happy living a lie.
- Jsmuli2, on 06/30/2008, -6/+2Poor quality and little to no research, just clips from interviews with people talking about how they knew someone who heard someone say....." "
How about watching Loose Change? Now that is one well done video.- BoneStamp, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Loose Change is good, but this video is interesting. Sometimes, all you can get is people who know someone... otherwise this wouldn't be in the counter culture media, it would be in pop media. This video has some good clips in it of journalists with first hand info too.
- lundeja, on 06/30/2008, -8/+1Conspiracy theories like this are interesting in that... we don't want to believe it because let's face it, we don't want to feel like this is all out of our hands and we're doomed by our own government, but at the same time we do want to believe it because either we need something interesting like this to keep our boring minds busy, or we are genuinely afraid that if it is true we'd be kicking ourselves for not believing it.
Run-on sentence award goes to me. - hotlatte, on 06/30/2008, -11/+5Wow. I'm impressed. How do you fit that much BULL into a video less than 10 minutes long? And it looks like it's on its way to being made popular on Digg, which only goes to show the level of ignorance and immaturity of many on this site. The really great thing about conspiracy theories is that you never have to prove a single accusation. You can throw theories out there all day long. Unfortunately, for our state and federal law enforcement agencies, proof is a requirement of their job. So, no. I don't believe 9/11 was an "inside job."
- ghindo, on 06/30/2008, -2/+6OH MAN THIS IS SO DEEP
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
STOP LIVING A LIE - luke16, on 06/30/2008, -4/+1I encourage everyone to watch this video. I have shown this to a couple of people when they are down or facing hard decisions in life. They say it helped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfq_A8nXMsQ
Live you life the way you want to, just don't be a douche =) - Vullkan, on 06/30/2008, -3/+2Some Muslim friends said "the Americans did it ...no Muslim has the right to do that in the name of God"...
I said O.K but Osama bin laden sent a Tape telling that he did it... Then he responded, he ain't no Muslim...
this was days after the attack. - whiterice0, on 06/30/2008, -9/+3Buried as being one of the longest list of asinine conspiracy theories in recent memory (though they could have throw in the JFK assasination for good measure).
- x0rcist, on 06/30/2008, -7/+2Don't watch this video... if you don't feel like watching a 10 minute video.
- unclebrownie14, on 06/30/2008, -5/+0So basically everything that is said in Metal Gear Solid series is....true....? THE PATRIOTS ARE REAL SAVE US SOLID SNAKE!!!
- Vullkan, on 06/30/2008, -4/+2"Rastafarians reject the use of alcohol, since it is a fermented chemical that does not belong in the temple of the body and it makes a person stupid, thereby playing into the hands of white leaders. This is contrasted with the holy herb of marijuana, which is natural and believed by Rastas to open their mind and assist in reasoning."
- hotlatte, on 06/30/2008, -5/+1So by that reasoning, if marijuana was legal and alcohol illegal, then alcohol would be the drug opening their minds and assisting with their reasoning?
- kemp34, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4Have you been drinking alcohol? Your logic is lacking.
- hotlatte, on 06/30/2008, -5/+1So by that reasoning, if marijuana was legal and alcohol illegal, then alcohol would be the drug opening their minds and assisting with their reasoning?
- chubbybubba, on 06/30/2008, -10/+5You guys are a bunch of loons. Why don't you put on your tin foil hats and start howling at the moon. Crazy freaks.
- EASwanson, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1You can make a video saying whatever you want to say by using several small clips from the news out of context. And it's not like every eye witness is giving a 100% accurate account of what happened. Omg leaders meeting in secret conspiracy!@!@
- mystcnurse, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3They not only meet in secret but they also make policies. Which in the United States is against the law.
- EASwanson, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1You can make a video saying whatever you want to say by using several small clips from the news out of context. And it's not like every eye witness is giving a 100% accurate account of what happened. Omg leaders meeting in secret conspiracy!@!@
- Ymeg, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2The Author of this video replies to an Alex Jones video and has a link to lose change. I'm not an expert on defining what is and what is not a reputable source, but I don't think this video is completely trustworthy.
The collapse of tower reported before it happens is interesting. Anyone care to refute it? Looking it up now.- mystcnurse, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3yeah, good luck with that one. It is interesting, isn't it????
- Branchex, on 06/30/2008, -5/+1Do you know how many people would have to be involved to keep this secret, and not one person has a conscience and exposes the whole thing? The Bush Administration couldn't find a Press Secretary that didn't expose what went on in the White House, yet several thousand other people can be found to keep bigger secrets?
- sw0254, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0I have just recently been turned on to the lies we are being fed; I have to say Zeigeist opened my eyes. The fact that everyone is ok living their mediocre lives, obsessed with their Coach bags and Hummers that guzzle gas is awful. Why cant everyone realize that religion is a lie, as well as what the government lets us know. Im in my twenties and am trying to take a stand, and it's hard with so many people brainwashed. It is going to get scary, and trying to convince people of the horrors to come is hard. Everyone wants to do for themselves, and not help anyone else. Its time to stand up against the evils of the world and their corruption. I hope many more will start to realize what is happening, if not for their sake, the sake of generations to come. Just because we may not be around for the worst, doesnt mean we shouldnt help salvage the future.
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