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- inactive, on 08/25/2008, -2/+45This isn't really hacking. I would bet anything that handles latency well would work, such as Teamspeak or Ventrillo.
Now when are they going to provide enough room to allow me to actually use a computer on a plane? - jayzDigga, on 08/26/2008, -0/+37This is so stupid. A flash app that talks over SSL will not be able to be blocked, so good luck with this.
- 9mmCensor, on 08/26/2008, -3/+24So that they can charge separately for it. Have you seen the prices of making a call on a plane? If you were a greedy corporation why end a cash cow like that?
- cawpin, on 08/26/2008, -5/+26Yet another reason why NYC sucks.
- lofi4life, on 08/26/2008, -1/+21You can get internet on trains, I still haven't seen a carriage full of people "babbling on about crap" everywhere. This is nothing to do with that, they just want to charge people for it.
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -3/+22They should be giving away cellphones with all the added charges now. 7$ for ONE beer on US Airways - criminal.
- huskerdude, on 08/26/2008, -2/+19The fact that you have to use Twitter to use this "hack" guarantees that 100% of the people doing it will be *****, too.
- jayzDigga, on 08/26/2008, -1/+17RTFA before commenting.
- joerod, on 08/26/2008, -2/+187$ for one beer is a bargin in NYC
- drmangrum, on 08/26/2008, -2/+17If you can't wait to land to have a beer, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your drinking habits.
- skintigh, on 08/26/2008, -2/+14How do you not get it? If someone doesn't want to talk to their neighbor, they don't. If someone doesn't want to listen to one half of a disjointed personal conversation for six hours, they can... do absolutely nothing about it until they go ***** and start killing people. I will never fly on any airline that allows cell phone calls. Just what I need, 200 jack asses yelling to speak over the cabin noise about their latest colon exam or the latest middle school gossip or what happened on the last night's reality show.
Forget ever sleeping on a flight again.
Forget ever reading on a flight again.
Forget ever even remotely enjoying, or even not loathing, a flight again. - Colindean, on 08/26/2008, -0/+11Internet access = VoIP access
- rebotfc, on 08/26/2008, -0/+11Personally with the internet being on airplanes I'd be more concerned about freaks surfing porno on their Dell.
- Tyrghast, on 08/26/2008, -0/+9This is not 'hacking'. These are basic networking and computer skills.
- FieldAnonymouse, on 08/26/2008, -1/+9Clearly you don't spend time around a lot of cell phone users. People on phones are more likely to be louder and less considerate of those around them. It's like when people pick up the phone they go into a state of pure obliviousness.
- NOD32user, on 08/26/2008, -0/+7Ventrillo - now that's something I need to set up again.
Thanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxdLeI1_a9E - teh_spazz, on 08/26/2008, -0/+7Can't this also be done using an SSH tunnel?
SSH tunnels have given me a loooooot of freedom at work. - doctordbx, on 08/26/2008, -1/+7So you have to use the expensive sky phone if you want to make a call.
- NoShelterHere, on 08/26/2008, -2/+8An ermergency call. On an airplane. Really.
"911, what is your emergency"
"The stewardess won't make my Western Bacon Cheeseburger to my liking."
"We're not here to enforce your cheeseburger" - vgtek, on 08/26/2008, -0/+6I usually can wait..but usually don't want to
- budsstud26, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5Another Internet Tough Guy...
You're not far more likely to do a damn thing other than sit there and be pissed off and then post an angry rant on Digg from your mom's basement. Seriously, I bet you wouldn't even ask them to please keep it down. - billizm, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5You can. But you have to pay the premium to sit there - 1st class. It costs what the market makes it.
- theshoreways, on 08/26/2008, -1/+6what did i miss... why do they want to block the phone calls?
"chatty passengers" sounds like a bad reason...
Plus... most idiots who would be prone to yapping the entire flight, wouldn't have the wherewithal to figure out how to beat the system... maybe. - Feanor, on 08/26/2008, -0/+5My god, why would any engineer connect a public Internet system in with the plane systems??
- smurfsahoy, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4And yes, it is also more annoying usually to hear one side of a conversation. It causes constant breaks between voice and silence, which impairs your brain's ability to block it out entirely. A similar thing happens in your house, for instance - a ticking clock will not be heard after awhile, but an intermittently screaming baby cannot be ignored.
- drmangrum, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4Jet Blue.
- smurfsahoy, on 08/26/2008, -2/+6Ummmm, seriously guys?
If a person is hacking the company's internet service to make a phone call against policy, then *CALL THE STEWARDESS* and have them stop the person. Duh. You could even carry a copy of the press release with you when you fly. If the passenger doesn't comply, they cut off his internet entirely. The end.
It's as if whenever the word "computer" is mentioned, people think the solution has to involve 15 different internet acronyms and tens of thousands of dollars in neverending tech support battles, or it won't ever work... - borez, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4true
- numb, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4Because that never happens otherwise...
- BrettFromTibet, on 08/26/2008, -5/+9Go team hax0r!
- tushyd, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4$7???
Man, we're spoiled here in Iowa. I don't think I ever have to pay over $4 for any beer. Most places have dollar drafts as well. Sucks to be from the big city now, no? - diatonic1, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4I can think of 2 reasons they might want to block it.
1. Bandwidth usage of VOIP can be quite high
2. Decreased revenue from the expensive in-flight phones
I can imagine a few people using VOIP could degrade the internet service for other users. Of course, by that logic they'd block streaming music and YouTube.
Maybe the more likely reason is money from in-flight phones. $$ Intercontinental calling $$ (which they probably secretly run over VOIP for free) - matthewinDRO, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4Unless VPN is blocked, you can VPN to your home network, VNC to your desktop, and talk away on any service you like.
- m3th0dm4n, on 08/26/2008, -0/+4Which will do what? Provide a half second hiccup?
- numb, on 08/26/2008, -1/+5To be honest, I think I'd rather be sat next to a loud talker than someone that is that emotionally unstable.
- smurfsahoy, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Actually, this is an excellent example of why black/white dogmatism about net neutrality is stupid. There are a number of very legitimate reasons to block or interfere with certain content. This is one of them - preventing disturbing a peaceful environment in a crowded public space that cannot be escaped from.
You just picked an example to complain about where there happens to BE a very good answer to your "what gives them the right?" question... - borez, on 08/26/2008, -2/+5Great, that's all I need, being sat next to some tosser babbling on about crap throughout an entire flight.
- linagee, on 08/26/2008, -2/+5Why would they try to block voice? Sounds like they are trying to create a dangerous situation for emergency usage.
- madcat033, on 08/26/2008, -3/+6The article says: "A tip before we go any further: Voice calls on airplanes will result in chatty passengers who yap their way through an entire six-hour flight, which is likely to increase the chance of an air-rage incident. Fly at your own risk."
I don't get it. Is it against the rules to chat with your neighbor the whole time? I'm pretty sure I've spent an entire flight chatting with the person next to me. I don't see how chatting on a cell phone is any different.
Perhaps people like being able to eavesdrop on both ends of the conversation... - financialbeast, on 08/26/2008, -1/+4I would really like to have internet when I am flying, but it don't know if I would like to have people talking on the phone and chats all over the plane. It's already terrible to sit in an airplane for a couple of hours, next to a complete stranger (off course there are exceptions). Nice article though.
- dafragsta, on 08/26/2008, -2/+5Don't you know anything? There is more power to be had over ignorant people by pretending you are ignorant yourself. If you stand in a crowd and talk about computer nerds and hacking, you never have to be technically right about anything. You just have to pretend to be an uninformed illiterate like John McCain and make all the judgements you want.
- cplusplus, on 08/26/2008, -0/+3Why Twitter? How's about emailing your pal.
- madcat033, on 08/26/2008, -4/+7@skintigh
You're not understanding what I'm saying. I was in the middle seat, and I spent the whole flight chatting with this girl on my left. So, if the guy on my right didn't want to hear me chatting, he can... do absolutely nothing. That's what I'm saying. It's cool for me to chat it up with a person next to me, but not cool for me to chat it up with someone on a phone.
What's the difference? Because my conversation is "disjointed" and one-sided? If anything it would be LESS annoying, because you would hear half as much talking. - kaniz, on 08/26/2008, -2/+5Phone calls on air planes should be designated to an area away from the main passenger area. Flights can be stressful enough without an idiot sitting next to you yammering away into a phone at the top of their voice.
Yes, people can talk loudly to the person sitting next to them on the plane. However, I've noticed three things.
1. When people are talking in person, they tend to be a bit more cautious of the people around them and the level of their voice.
2. It tends to be slightly less annoying hearing BOTH ends of the conversation, not just one side of the conversation.
3. I'm far more likely to grab the cellphone out of a persons hand and smash it against the wall for being a loud idiot than punching them in the face for talking to their neighbor too loudly. - pardonmedoug, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2How about they just let us make a ***** phone call.
- ncc74656m, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3Ok, I love the hack/backdoor aspect of the article and workaround. It's always nice to know that you can beat the big corps at their own game. But for the love of god, why? I know that an "air-rage incident" would definitely occur with me if the prick next to me starts yacking loudly just because he thinks that since he can't hear himself, the other party can't. Phones and VOIP calls should seriously be banned permanently and forever on airplanes unless they can create a designated "calling area" on the place that is sound-proofed.
- pickleprince, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3People use phones on commuter trains and somehow that works out fine.
- andreo, on 08/26/2008, -0/+2It's good that they could do this. However I don't see the point. I would much rather open a IM session with someone then use voice on an airplane. But then again, I don't enjoy pissing off people around me.
With IM someone would need to go out of their way to see what your conversation is about. With voice your broadcasting it all over the place. - chriswastaken, on 10/27/2009, -0/+2PBR isn't a good beer even at $3
- inactive, on 08/26/2008, -1/+3"perhaps you need to re-evaluate" your presumptuous faggotry? at no point in my comment did I allude to not being able to wait to land to have a beer, or anything remotely close to that. Take your assumptions and pound 'em in ur *****...
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