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- smacksaw, on 07/12/2009, -9/+57$13.99 a month? How about $0.99 in the App Store? I'm down with $1 to be able to skip their registration crap. I do like the NY Times.
The amazing thing to me is that there are places like the BBC, CBC, ABC (Australia), Current.tv, blogs, Google News - tons of places to get great content. In the grand scheme of things, I won't miss you, NYT, and that is what you fail to understand. You are no longer special, so quit acting like you are. - FirstCuts, on 07/12/2009, -9/+53When the advertising market goes soft, this is a necessary evil. Also, I believe the NYT is one of the few papers in the country -- or even the world -- that will be able to get away with this. Hardly a universal solution.
- mweels, on 07/12/2009, -7/+43What does the NY times give me that I couldnt get in a million other places on the internet for free?
- areyouserial, on 07/12/2009, -12/+41The pay-for-information model, for general non-financial news, in an environment where news dissemination is no longer necessarily a top-down affair, is unlikely to be profitable. Why so much concern over one newspaper in the information age? It seems silly. Do they alone get the ten tablets off Mt. Sinai every morning or what?
- jezsik, on 07/12/2009, -5/+33Dear New York Times. I've really enjoyed our relationship, but you're asking for too much of a commitment. Other news outlets are too willing to give me news for free. Yes, I appreciate how your stuff is generally better, but you weren't ALWAYS the best, were you? Maybe some of those other sites need my readership so they can prove to their advertisers that they're worth the ad revenue. Some day they can have the same respect you have now. I can imagine them saying things like "Remember the New York Times?" I don't mind if your articles have advertisements.I'll even click a few if they're relevant to me or the story (just, no ads for boner-pills, ok?).
- Diggnabbit, on 07/12/2009, -0/+27The issue is that most investigative journalism and actual news gathering is still done by newspapers. If they go out of business, there's going to be less news out there. (TV may be able to step up, but it doesn't seem likely.)
- WunderTroll, on 07/12/2009, -2/+28A near unquestionable credibility and columns from some of the best journalists and most accomplished professionals in the world (ie. Bob Herman, Paul Krugman).
Dugg for questioning a media mogul though. - Reddog_x2000, on 07/12/2009, -3/+23This is not an approach that would work for most papers. Given two similar stories, one for free and one that you have to pay for, the overwhelming majority of people would chose the free story the vast majority of the time.
The NY Times MAY be an exception to this rule, at least in the short term. It's one of America's most prominent papers. It's got a reputation for exceptional quality, which has translated to it's website. And many of it's readers aren't just readers, they're fans. They consider reading the Times an integral part of their day. So, of all the papers in this country, I'd say the NY Times has just about the best chance of getting enough survivors to stay afloat using an online subscription model. I wish them well. - wiggles, on 07/12/2009, -1/+19because bloggers can't get press credentials, can't establish bureaus in war zones, don't have the time or money to spend six months chasing down a story on political corruption, don't have the legal resources to fight the inevitable slander and defamation lawsuits, etc. etc.
- hDJgangsta, on 07/12/2009, -0/+17I'd love to see what the ad-blocker usage statistics look like.
- pwner, on 07/12/2009, -2/+19Just out of curiosity, what news source do you prefer?
- smacksaw, on 07/12/2009, -3/+17I don't think this ASCII has ever been more relevant, CarStan:
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Even in the Star Trek future, Picard would be disappointed in you. - inactive, on 07/12/2009, -11/+25EPIC FAIL!
- Lamnent, on 07/12/2009, -4/+17Oh no, now I can just go to the other 5,000 sources on the internet for information.
- Encephalon, on 07/12/2009, -0/+12Didn't Jon Stewart recently interview Andrew Rosenthal about this same issue and was quoted saying he'd never endorse charging for online content?
- akspark, on 07/12/2009, -6/+17hahahahaha ok sure yeah
- martalli, on 07/12/2009, -1/+11Not everyone lives in New York.
- Sogui, on 07/12/2009, -0/+9You can joke, but from what I've seen in other papers and the blogspam that floats though digg's front page... the NYT looks like a shining paragon of journalism.
- rumblestrut, on 07/12/2009, -3/+11I suppose this could work if the NYTimes was anything special. But more and more, its content is something you can get anywhere else for free.
In the Times' heyday, they would have known about the secret program (that we still don't know much about) way before a government administration told the public about it. The NYTimes and all other mass media let down the American people, nay, the world, with shoddy journalism during the Bush administration.
The days of the large newspapers pretending that they're meaningful are over. - dsmith5237, on 07/12/2009, -6/+14Your print business is dying so you want to try to be profitable by charging for something we can get for free just a click away?
Nice business model, NYT. - Sakumi, on 07/12/2009, -0/+8Death of paper? More like the death of the New York Times.
- mparker21311, on 07/12/2009, -2/+9Good bye NYT... nice knowing you.
- inactive, on 07/12/2009, -0/+7You want me to pay so I can read government sound bites parroted word for word? I can get that anywhere, even on Digg.com
- Stormwern, on 07/12/2009, -2/+9The way you make a profit is not by charging more, but by cutting out the junk. There is no point of having 1000 different online papers write identical articles about every single event. Pick a narrower topic and do it well, and link to other sites for most else. You don't have to sell a package deal anymore.
- eavesdrop, on 07/13/2009, -0/+6I don't prefer a news source. It's all rehashed AP ***** anyway.
I read whoever has the latest news first. In this instant online world, speed counts. As for journalistic pieces that cover a special issue, interviews, op-eds, then I'll read if the article is interesting or not.
Loyalty to a certain newspaper is retarded, especially when they don't even know when you're alive, unless of course you didn't renew your subscription. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - pinchduck, on 07/12/2009, -0/+6Good luck with that.
- twiztidsinz, on 07/12/2009, -1/+7"tl;dr: how long do we have to wait until the society in Star Trek finally becomes reality?"
So how's them warp coils coming? - writie, on 07/12/2009, -1/+7More than one paper has its head on the block.
- JK1150, on 07/12/2009, -6/+12won't be missed
- EddiePotato, on 07/12/2009, -0/+6You are a symptom of the information age: too many facts, not enough reasoning. Time to read some books on 20th century history so you may discover what happens when nations take the course you're suggesting.
- Quaestor44, on 07/12/2009, -0/+5meh, it wasn't a good paper anyway.
WSJ is where its at - EddiePotato, on 07/12/2009, -1/+6Yes, he'll love it. Whether he likes it or not.
- Wetzilla, on 07/12/2009, -0/+5@norman - I'm 26 and still read the Boston Globe everyday and the Herald most days. Most stuff I read online comes from newspaper outlets too, the quality of writing and reporting is just so much better than what I read on most blogs. Now if the papers could just figure out how to switch to the 24 hour news cycle online, maybe they would be able to survive. I doubt it.
- Deguello, on 07/12/2009, -1/+6I would never pay for online news content. I do not need to know what goes on in New York that badly. The rest of the stuff I can get from other sources. This is not going to be a profitable business model for you I am afraid. How about dropping advertisement prices, or become a paper that actually reports news instead of what the politicians and Washington DC wants you to publish. I could really get behind a news source that does what it was designed to do.
Good luck to you NYT! - DarthTater, on 07/12/2009, -0/+5I think they already tried to charge and dind't work. I don't know what is going to do the difference now.
- Bootes, on 07/12/2009, -0/+5I'm 21 and agree with Wetzilla.
- norman619, on 07/12/2009, -3/+8The newspaper is going the way of the horse and buggy. I don't know anyone other than the older generation who still read newspapers. most people I know get their news from TV and the various FREE internet news outlets. Times are changing and this change isn't bad.
- motivatedguy, on 07/12/2009, -0/+4Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?
- mrsteveman1, on 07/12/2009, -1/+5Move to a socialist country, problem solved.
- akspark, on 07/12/2009, -0/+4also, read a book
- theghoul, on 07/12/2009, -1/+5Do you get a refund when they print false articles?
- durnit, on 07/12/2009, -3/+7The NYTimes has been setting the news agenda for a century. Even if you've never read the Times, you've gone to sites and read/watched/listened to things that have been influenced by what the Times editors thought was important. Hate Big Media and people telling you what's important all you want, but i wouldn't be so sure that whatever replaces it is going to result in a better informed, more civic minded public.
- akspark, on 07/12/2009, -1/+5But but but it's the New York Times!!
Hahahaha - collution, on 07/12/2009, -4/+8Truth is, you're a freeloader.
- charm803, on 07/12/2009, -0/+4The NYTimes held on to their old model for so long, that by now, there are so many alternatives to it, so good luck with that, NYT!
Had they been on the forefront of this a long time ago, it might work, but it's too late.
I am a "registered" member only so I can read the damn articles when they make FP on digg or fark.
Other than that, I think the only ones it will affect are New Yorkers, since the rest of us can pretty much get it all the way around from other places.
I wonder if they will hold a memorial when it dies a painful death. - bennison, on 07/13/2009, -0/+4They better brace for bupkis.
- AndrewDB, on 07/13/2009, -0/+4Welp. Guess I won't read the NYTimes anymore.
*Removes that off his Bookmarks list.* - SummerofGeorge, on 07/12/2009, -0/+4Stop writing like you have down's syndrome would be a good start
- user500, on 07/12/2009, -0/+3with enough diggs it could be again tomorrow.
- durnit, on 07/12/2009, -2/+5I'd pay for NYTimes magazine content. Those pieces take a lot of time and research to write and they're a cut above anything else blog and newswire stuff. Much as I love the Times, their day-to-day reporting isn't that unique.
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