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Dad Sodomized A-Hole Teen Stepson Who Raped His Daughter

foxnews.com — The daughter was 8 years old. His stepson is 18. The mom posts bond for the jerk, but the dad offers to pick him up from jail. After getting his stepson from jail, the man drove to an abandoned house in Fort Worth, beat his stepson with a baseball bat and sodomized him with a metal tool, police said.

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  • FiP0, on 01/14/2008, -275/+32The result of generations of inbreeding.
    • chillypacman, on 01/14/2008, -6/+78aaaaaah...

      stepson, biological daughter.

      Not really inbreeding...
      • FiP0, on 02/01/2008, -0/+1What are you talking about ? I never said that it WAS inbreeding, I said it was THE RESULT OF inbreeding.
        A stepson who rapes his sister, a father who rapes a teenager to "punish him" ?? Come on .. That's the behavior I would expect from monkeys.
    • aukxsona, on 01/14/2008, -15/+150The ***** deserved it.
      • jordan1, on 01/14/2008, -12/+47I agree. If someone did that to one of my three daughters...I would have killed him....and enjoyed it.
      • amoirae, on 01/14/2008, -14/+7Now he won't be tight for his cellmate!

        Oh justice, where is thy sting?
        • amoirae, on 01/14/2008, -9/+6Some pathetic pedo pitying ass actually dugg me down for my comment.

          Who ever did that is thinking this vermin child rapist merits pity.
          • chrisappleton, on 01/14/2008, -3/+20Maybe they just think your comment is dumb.
    • hoovcluck, on 01/14/2008, -11/+63THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ***** A STRANGER IN THE ASS!!!!!!
      • georgemason01, on 01/14/2008, -4/+14Not that it really applies here since they weren't strangers, but dugg for being one of the best movie lines in history.
      • ihatepeterh, on 01/14/2008, -2/+22Did anyone ever see the cable-ized version of this scene, where Walter instead yells "THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FIND A STRANGER IN THE ALPS!!!!"?
        • browwiw, on 01/14/2008, -2/+10Hehe, yeah. I love that re-edit. In a certain way, it's much more poignant because unless you've seen the original you think Walter's straight up flipped his ***** with rage.
        • toasterfilms, on 01/14/2008, -3/+3I always thought it was "FIGHT a stranger". Either way its hilarious. Even though I own that movie I always watch it on cable if only for that scene.

          oh yeah...

          "8 year olds, dude"
        • aceslick911, on 01/14/2008, -10/+2back on topic plz?
      • mydigga, on 01/14/2008, -3/+10If the teens name is Larry, this is the best comment ever.
      • dclowd9901, on 01/14/2008, -2/+12Okay, I've heard of "eye for an eye" but this is ridiculous!
    • sanman, on 01/14/2008, -7/+47Raped an 8-yr old? Shoulda been castrated, with that same tool/bat.
      • ThndrShk2k, on 01/14/2008, -33/+1Read the damn article or even the description. Jesus ***** christ.
    • eld4nt3, on 01/14/2008, -18/+27I really don't agree. Let the justice system deal with it.
      • OverlordXenu, on 01/14/2008, -18/+16Why is this dude being dugg down? He's right.

        An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. While I think the rape of the kid was terrible, the father is JUST AS BAD as his son for raping him.
        • uncltim, on 01/14/2008, -8/+20you are so pathetic.the father left him with his life which is more than many would have
          • amoirae, on 01/14/2008, -2/+7He still should have neutered his daughter's rapist.
        • JustinCase18, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2And what do you do when the justice system lets him out for "therapy"?
      • slazer, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1it's too hard to say whether i would just let the justice system deal with it and be content with the sentence. i don't have a kid, so i'm not in the position to imagine the state of mind i would be in if someone, step-son or not, did anything to harm my child. let me try:
        i would imagine that being the biological parent of a child feels like having a detached third arm with a personality. it laughs, cries, thinks on its own. it's a part of you. it's yours. you want to protect it. you love it. now it's only 8 years old and you find out that some ***** has been getting his perversions off with it. yes, that ***** has to die until all my rage is gone.
    • Chahrlie5, on 01/14/2008, -2/+22Judging by your inability to distinguish the difference between stepson and biological son, I guess you have first hand knowledge of the pitfalls of said inbreeding.
      • FiP0, on 02/01/2008, -0/+1What are you talking about ? I never said that it WAS inbreeding, I said it was THE RESULT OF inbreeding.
        A stepson who rapes his sister, a father who rapes a teenager to "punish him" ?? Come on .. That's the behavior I would expect from monkeys.

        I'm sure most of us would like to beat up, or kill someone who tries to rape one of our children. But raping him ? What kind of retard does that ?
    • mwny, on 01/14/2008, -4/+11No Fip0. This is the result of releasing a suspected rapist into the custody of the father of the rape victim. I think the police department / the city really messed up here. They created a situation that had a disastrous outcome. There should be policies and procedures put in place so that mistakes like this do not happen again.
      • sv650touring, on 01/14/2008, -3/+3The kid was 18. He wasn't in the stepfather's custody, he was just being picked up by his stepfather. If rapists want to catch a lift home with the father's of their victims, they should be free to do so. There are already "policies and procedures" in place from the day we are born. They're called "a sense of self-preservation".

        Maybe the kid thought being beaten with a bat was what he deserved, but the old man sodomizing him was too much.
        • FlameBaiter, on 01/14/2008, -2/+5No, it wasn't too much. Hope the pipe was rusted. I personally would have castrated him. Jail time or not.
          If an 18 year old will do this, he's definitely going to do this again throughout his life. Maybe even his own kids.
        • groberts1980, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Exactly. The stepson wasn't some 10 year old experimenting, he was 18. Stepfather should have cut his twigg and berries off so he can never do this again. In fact, that should be the fate of all convicted rapists. Let them pee out of a tube for the rest of their life.
      • JustinCase18, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4I think the key word here is "released". Sure looks like the justice system is looking out for the 8 year old victim. Released back into the home with his victim.
    • Escamotage, on 01/14/2008, -7/+3There was another article where the father described what he said to the 18 year old boy before assaulting him:

      "This watch I got here was first purchased by your great-grandfather during the first World War. It was bought in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee. Made by the first company to ever make wrist watches. Up till then people just carried pocket watches. It was bought by private Doughboy Erine Coolidge on the day he set sail for Paris. It was your great-grandfather's war watch and he wore it everyday he was in that war. When he had done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the watch off, put it an old coffee can, and in that can it stayed 'til your granddad Dane Coolidge was called upon by his country to go overseas and fight the Germans once again. This time they called it World War II. Your great-grandfather gave this watch to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't as good as his old man's. Dane was a Marine and he was killed -- along with the other Marines at the battle of Wake Island. Your granddad was facing death, he knew it. None of those boys had any illusions about ever leavin' that island alive. So three days before the Japanese took the island, your granddad asked a gunner on an Air Force transport name of Winocki, a man he had never met before in his life, to deliver to his infant son, who he'd never seen in the flesh, his gold watch. Three days later, your granddad was dead. But Winocki kept his word. After the war was over, he paid a visit to your grandmother, delivering to your infant father, his Dad's gold watch. This watch. (holds it up, long pause) This watch was on your Daddy's wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi. He was captured, put in a Vietnamese prison camp. He knew if the gooks ever saw the watch it'd be confiscated, taken away. The way your Dad looked at it, that watch was your birthright. He'd be damned if any slopes were gonna put their greasy yella hands on his boy's birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something. His ass. Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family. And now, little man, I give the watch to you."

      Sorry, digg me down. I couldn't resist.

      • hansk, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4great line from a great movie, but how does this have any connection with vigilante justice?
        • latpack, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2It doesn't. There's only the vagueness of similarities between that quote and the situation reported.

          Did you just watch Pulp Fiction for the first time or what?
          • hansk, on 01/15/2008, -1/+1oh yes the scene from the pawn shop 'spider has caught a couple of flies.'
      • Je55e0wn5y0u, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2okay
  • m1cobra, on 01/14/2008, -418/+104 Inbreeding my Blank! This was another case , if it feels good or I want it .I'll do it or get it. They do not teach morals or ethics any more, Just feel good, selfishness. This adult man(18) knew exactly what he was doing. A true liberal. As for what the stepfather did,His child has been sentenced to being a victim for life, she has to live with this horror. I think the sadist should be castrated, euniched, and suffer rectal removal. He should be a victim for the rest of his life, with a double bag hanging off his belt line. This should be the punishment for any violation of any woman,or child. and the same for any woman who violates a child or man. There is absolutely nothiong lower on the human chain than a person who would hurt or defile a child, Scum can't even describe the sadism.
    • MiltonWaddams, on 01/14/2008, -17/+227In the liberal capital of the world: Fort Worth, Texas.
    • MacnCidar, on 01/14/2008, -30/+108If a conservative does it, does that make him a true conservative. You're an idiot. I suppose you think Bush is doing a swell job.
      • badenglishihave, on 01/14/2008, -13/+75Bush doesn't enter into it. Pointing to a person's political affiliation as part of the reason for a rape is just moronic.
    • mntbikeracer1, on 01/14/2008, -4/+64I agree with everything you said except the true liberal part. This is true of any human being that wasn't given any moral or ethical lessons as a kid, they get what they want any way possible, even if it means scarring someone for life. There are ***** bags on either side of the fence, liberal or conservative, religious or not. Labeling one group or the other only leads us down the same path as the ***** that raped the girl.
    • TheWedge, on 01/14/2008, -13/+46Get back under your bridge, troll!
    • threemagic, on 01/14/2008, -14/+36What the ***** does being a liberal have to do with getting what we want? We typically think social.. you know.. trying to help everyone.. raise taxes and share the wealth. If anyone is selfish.. it's the "it's MY DAMN MONEY AND WHY SHOULD I SHARE WITH THE POOR" mentality.

      Not to mention, this type of behavior shown by the 18 year old has more to do with being beaten as a child....I don't know this for sure, I'm just speaking from knowledge of the subject.
      • OldJesser, on 01/14/2008, -4/+15Your 'knowledge' on the subject is fairly limited. Not everyone who is beaten as a child suffers trauma that you seem to be using to indicate an 'excuse' for what was done. Most of the kids growing up around me, myself included, were beaten. To my knowledge, not a single one of them has raped or hurt anyone, and certainly hasn't used being beaten as an excuse for anything in their lives.
        • archiesteel, on 01/14/2008, -5/+9It's not an excuse, it's a possible element to explain deviant behavior. People aren't born bad.
          Whether or not the anecdotal evidence around you agrees, it's a verified fact that many of those who abuse others were themselves abused as children. That does not mean that *every* abuser was abused, or that *every* abused child will grow up to be an abuser. It simply means that violence begets violence, especially if the victims of violence do not develop in a nurturing, loving environment.
          • OldJesser, on 01/14/2008, -4/+3I could argue that many of those who don't abuse others were themselves beaten as a child, since corporal punishment in the home was a very common thing until recently. On one hand you are saying violence begets violence, but on the other you are saying that it does not necessarily happen to people who were abused. Maybe the real differentiator is whether or not the punishment is justified, and if it is done it a fair way. I was beaten as a child, for example, only when I did something wrong, and not beaten bloody (just a good smacking on the softest part of my body - my ass).
          • threemagic, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2@oldjesser: Ruling by fear, or in this case having people "get in line" or fear physical retribution can manifest itself in many ways.. usually in violent anti-social behavior but in others it causes them to fear everything and lock themselves up. Violence does not get the results you need. You should be teaching and explaining.

            i had to reply to archiesteel, it kept saying my session expired.
        • threemagic, on 01/14/2008, -9/+2My knowledge on the subject is far from limited. You are using your own friends and yourself as the definition, that is limited. Even deviants don't rape 8 year olds. Some trauma causes this. That's far from an excuse. But rape is a violent act and in 100 percent of rapists there is some terrible violence in their own childhood. You may have been beaten but I doubt it equates to abuse. Your obvious close mindedness tells me a lot in what kind of beating you took and the fear you dwell in daily.
          • EtherGnat, on 01/14/2008, -1/+5"But rape is a violent act and in 100 percent of rapists there is some terrible violence in their own childhood. "

            You're an idiot. There is no such thing as an absolute in areas such as this, and by being such a moron you just make it harder for rational thought to make a difference.
          • OldJesser, on 01/14/2008, -2/+2"You may have been beaten but I doubt it equates to abuse." Exactly what I was saying. You suggested in your OP that "this type of behavior shown by the 18 year old has more to do with being beaten as a child." I agree completely that it is different from abuse, which is what my lower post was explaining. But don't be surprised when people call you on the words you are using if you mean something entirely different.
          • threemagic, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1@EtherGnat: Rape is about violence and control.. it's not about sex. Least of all an 8 year old...

            Everyone can digg me down if they wish, but what I'm saying is true...
    • Shadowtheweak, on 01/14/2008, -3/+20what?
    • ShokDoktor, on 01/14/2008, -14/+47How do you explain highest crime, rape, drug abuse, teen abortions all from the red states?

      Must have something to do with the bible as moral authority.
      • hagingtree, on 01/14/2008, -33/+11I can explain that easily, you just made it up, lol.
    • arcangelgabriel, on 01/14/2008, -6/+45"A true liberal. " You sir [ used loosely ] are an idiot of the most severe kind. Please take your insipid twaddle elsewhere.
    • bjornski, on 01/14/2008, -10/+18Actually, the "if it feels good or I want it .I'll do it or get it" mindset is the libertarian mindset.

      Not liberal.
      • 1town, on 01/14/2008, -13/+5Actually, it's the atheist mindset. Or the socialist mindset.
        See, I can point fingers for no apparent reason too.

    • pintomp3, on 01/14/2008, -2/+15so where does one go to learn these morals and ethics that the "liberals" lack? the catholic church? the boy scouts?
    • crunkaholic, on 01/14/2008, -1/+10***** off cobra
      this is above irrelevant labels of liberal or conservative.
    • DjArcadian, on 01/14/2008, -1/+7Using this unfortunate event to push your political agenda? How pathetic.
    • Theycallmetak, on 01/14/2008, -1/+6Agree w/everything except the "true liberal" part.
    • terrible0ne, on 01/14/2008, -1/+10dude you got freaking buried because of the liberal comment.
    • seanc6610, on 01/14/2008, -1/+5I don't know if i should digg you up or down. After you get over the liberal rant, you've actually got a pretty good comment.
    • badlogik, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4Um.. What? You proved your stupidity with the "True liberal" line.
    • badjokes, on 01/14/2008, -4/+2OP -> dumb ***** of america 08'
    • rheaume, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4"A true liberal"

      DIAF
    • snatchmstr, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Dude, don't you know that Digg is ALL LIBERAL? That's like making a comment that we don;t need more gun control or that the bill of rights refers to "the people."
    • kurtwinter, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2The next time I see a heinous gun crime, I will respond with a "true conservative". ***** off.
    • Sleepfist, on 01/14/2008, -2/+2I'm looking over my liberal agenda here... let's see... we have increasing the size of the Federal government, creating a nanny state, taxing the economy to death... I just can't seem to find "sodomizing 8-year-old girls" on here. Do you have a newer copy?
  • skate033, on 01/14/2008, -144/+928Not that I would approach this that way but the kid got what he deserved. As m1cobra said, the little girl is going to be scarred for life anyone who has the audacity to commit such a crime should serve the same punishment as the victim. What good does it do to send them to jail? To have 3 hots and a cot for them to think about what they did? You are wasting precious air and space for a sick freak.
    • kooft, on 01/14/2008, -80/+284But now you have a 2nd crime, the rape and beating of the stepson. So, according to you, this guy needs to get what he deserves and someone should rape and be him. Of course, whoever rapes and beats the stepfather will need to get what (s)he deserves as well.

      It's starting to sound like an unending chain of violence isn't it? I think that's why the government is in charge of doling out punishment.
      • MacnCidar, on 01/14/2008, -38/+18In this case, the Govt, let the guy free and what...? Who's kid is next? it would be better if this guy would just "disappear".
      • Samsong, on 01/14/2008, -3/+60Well... I guess one of us is going to have to be the last in line.
      • briguymaine, on 01/14/2008, -23/+156as the father of two little girls, my blood is boiling just reading this. I think that stepdad showed incredible restraint. I am not sure that I would have stopped and I might have killed the *****.
        • Ajajadude, on 01/14/2008, -42/+20And what do you think it does to the daughter when she finds out what her dad did? You think that's going to make things easier for her or worse to know her dad is a cruel and vicious person?

          Not to say what the kid did was right, he was going to get what he deserved one way or another, but the whole "an eye-for-an-eye" thing isn't going to do anything more than ruin the girl's life even more and quite possibly get the kid off with a lesser punishment. You don't think the kid's defense attorney isn't going to try and spin that the stepfather was some sort of monster who drove the kid to rape the little girl?
          • briguymaine, on 01/14/2008, -3/+25I hear what you are saying but sometimes there is an instinct that kicks in to protect.
          • shodanx, on 01/14/2008, -10/+10repressing that instinct is what society is all about
          • archiesteel, on 01/14/2008, -10/+12...which is why we have the rule of law, and vigilante justice is illegal.
        • threemagic, on 01/14/2008, -3/+19A time to kill - "hell yes, I hope they deserve to die.. I hope they burn in hell!"
        • allan17, on 01/14/2008, -7/+63Child rapists deserve every ***** bit of what they get. If I was on the jury, I'd have alot of sympathy for the father even if he had killed the *****, and would push for a light sentence.
          • stevealford, on 01/14/2008, -6/+55I wouldn't want a light sentence... I'd vote Not Guilty by Reason of Temporary Insanity. I'm not a father, but if someone raped one of my nieces, I'd beat the living ***** out of them with blind rage and probably stick a crowbar up their ass as well. If I was on that jury, I'd see that the man was blinded by rage and totally justified in his actions. At WORST, it would be a hung jury and need a retrial.

            You're crazy if you say that it sends a bad message to the little girl to know what her dad did. The message it sends is that if you bring harm upon my loved ones, then harm will befall you. Would you rather she grew up in fear all her life or that she grew up knowing that if someone hurts you, you have a right to hurt them back. I'm not an advocate of vigilante justice, but in cases like this, it's the only way for a victim to get closure unless you kill the offender.

            The stepson doesn't need closure, he was being punished and received retribution. He wasn't violated, he received exactly what he gave out. I applaud the father for his restraint. Most fathers would have killed the little rapist bastard... if they were a father worth having. If you say "we'll just let the police and prosecutors handle it," then you obviously lack the protective instinct of a true parent. A true parent wants to eliminate any threat to their child and seek retribution for any harm that was done.
          • theycallmebubba, on 01/14/2008, -3/+2Wasn't there a movie about something JUST like this? I think it had Matt McConaughey in it... oh - 'A Time to Kill'. GOOD movie... I'd say watch it first, and *then* come to your own conclusions.
        • Lyph5, on 01/14/2008, -13/+5Allan, when the act is illegal, but the punishment is too severe, that's when you nullify.
          • bjornski, on 01/14/2008, -1/+18Yup, that 18 year old should have been nullified, alright.
      • CraigCarlyle, on 01/14/2008, -16/+49The kid was going to be sodomized in prison, there was no need for the father to do it.
        • Lyph5, on 01/14/2008, -5/+43If the kid is still alive, he will go to prison. Just slip a guard $50 to mention the kids crime, and he'll be dead within a week.
          • dshPls, on 01/14/2008, -10/+3He is, after the assault he managed to call police on a payphone, if you RTFA you'd know that ;)
          • tannerpetry, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2These days I think they isolate the pedophiles so they don't get killed right away. There's a chance he might not have recieved the jail punishment he deserves.
      • centerblack, on 01/14/2008, -14/+53No see, it's eye for eye. Not eye for eye for eye for eye for .....

        Got it?
        • Lukesed, on 01/14/2008, -2/+2Because if some sick freak wants to go raping people in your world he can just look for people who have raped someone in the past and have some fun.
        • Jugalator, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1"What's so hard to understand about this case?"

          That the dad will now be listed as a "sexual offender", and some people love to use the public catalogues for those.
      • purzzzell, on 01/14/2008, -6/+20don't forget someone should beat/rape the mother for posting bail for the sob.

        /sarcasm
        • Waterrat, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1 This sounds like a very sick family...
          As to the a-hole being raped in prison,there is no guarantee of that.
          if I'd been the father,I'd have skipped the sodomy and cut the jerk's prick and balls off and flushed them down a john.
      • khellendros1984, on 01/14/2008, -5/+36Solution: Have the daughter sodomize the father, and the chain's broken!.....although I think that solution would require further counseling than will already be required...
      • deity, on 01/14/2008, -1/+9Of course government always does what's right. The 18 year old probably would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist. He should never have been released anyway. He got what he deserved.
        Feel for the little girl she's the victim.
      • whatever01, on 01/14/2008, -2/+6Ellie Nesler. Does the name ring a bell? Probably not, for most of you. In 1993, she entered a courtroom where a man was being tried for molesting her son, about 7 years old at the time. She pumped 5 bullets into his head. She was sentenced to 10 years, and served 3 before the verdict was overturned due to Juror misconduct.

        So where are they now? Well, she did time for mixing up Meth. The son, while mom was in prison, "stomped" a neighbor to death after the neighbor accused him of stealing tools. The son had been out of jail for just a couple hours for having beaten the neighbor, in front of police, when he killed the neighbor. He's currently doing 25-life.

        I hope, for the sake of everyone who any of these people meet in life, that a whole lot of professional help is given.
      • paradexes, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4Actually, might want to reconsider that. In prison even prisoners look poorly on child rapists. They are the ones with the shortest lifespans there. They are also usually the "bitch" in prison. So in many ways justice is served. They may get 3 hots and a cot, but they take one in the stink too.
    • KnightMareInc, on 01/14/2008, -9/+84because prison is like disney land
      • Ajajadude, on 01/14/2008, -0/+33Well, that It's a Small World ride could certainly be construed as torture
        • Tetraca, on 01/14/2008, -1/+14I think you just found a comprimise between us that the Bush administration. Once we place the terrorists on that ride they'll practically be waterboarding themselves.
    • bieber, on 01/14/2008, -4/+53See, that's the thing about prison. They actually _are_ giving him the same punishment as what he did to the girl, in effect :O
      • MWeather, on 01/14/2008, -0/+18And rewarding many other rapists. Eventually, this kid will be one of the ones raping the new fish. Then his sentence will be up and we'll release him.
        • Namaha, on 01/14/2008, -2/+8If people find out what he's in for, he'll probably be killed.
        • Speed, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Not really. Child rapists are considered the second lowest life form in prison (lowest is a snitch). He wouldn't make it out alive
    • guruofreason, on 01/14/2008, -5/+53What do you suppose happens to people who abuse children in jail? Big bubba will have a lot of fun raping his anus every night.
      • pe5t1lence, on 01/14/2008, -3/+17Actually, now they are putting sexual assault prisoners in a sort of permanent isolation, to keep them from being raped. So...yeah... no justice from that end anymore.
        • archiesteel, on 01/14/2008, -2/+14Permanent isolation is a very severe form of punishment - it's no cakewalk! Justice *is* served, without the need to resort to actual physical violence.
          • expert01, on 01/14/2008, -2/+7If I were to go to prison for any reason, I would want permanent isolation. I've tried isolating myself for a few months at a time, and it wasn't so bad (and I mean isolation where I left the apartment for 30 minutes every few weeks).

            Especially if I could have net access.
          • wesd, on 01/14/2008, -3/+26@ expert01

            That's called World of Warcraft, right?
          • thewfirestarter, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1If you had net access, you obviously wouldn't be in isolation. Part of isolation as punishment is the lack of communication and intense boredom.
          • str1fe, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Watch the movie Papillion, the scene where the guy gets 2 year of isolation in the prison. Then the scene where he gets 5 years, it's not exactly a cakewalk.
        • tba2287, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3It's more practical than releasing them and forcing them to register as sex offenders. When they get shut out of >90% of residential neighborhoods, can't hold most jobs or use the internet, then a longer jail sentence is better. At least we can keep better track of them behind bars.
    • sporg, on 01/14/2008, -62/+6Who is to say she wasn't voluntarily committing the act? It is a possibility.
      • sporg, on 01/14/2008, -16/+5This article doesnt make anything clear.
        • Coldstreak, on 01/14/2008, -4/+51Because she's ***** 8 years old you retard
        • jackkerouac, on 01/14/2008, -2/+22She's 8 years old, you ***** douche. Eight year olds cannot consent to anal sex with an 18-year-old. *****, just knowing there are douches like you out there thinking the way you do gives me the heebie-jeebies.
          • SydBarrett420, on 01/14/2008, -4/+1Didn't a retarded 11 year old recently tag team two guys? It is possible, however unlikely.
      • toaday, on 01/14/2008, -1/+47Whether an EIGHT years old is voluntarily committing a sexual act or not is irrelevant. She's not old enough to make those sorts of choices. He's 18, he's the adult and he's responsible.
        • sporg, on 01/14/2008, -2/+8Clearly. However I dont understand why he was only charged with "suspicion of" instead of the full charge. Why did the mother post the bond?
          • MattnJax, on 01/14/2008, -0/+13I see your point, but like others have said, she's 8 years old. And the article states that the father walked in on the brother raping her, the article also states that a medical exam confirmed it. Did you even read the article? Also, who knows why the mother posted the bond. It obviously is a very ***** up family. What kind of mother raises a son that would do something like that?
          • mythicflux, on 01/14/2008, -7/+5Of course what if the father is lying about the whole thing? (Please note I seriously don't believe this situation, I'm playing devils advocate.)

            Since the father clearly was willing to physically and sexually assault the teen shouldn't that raise the question as to his mental state? How do we know that the father didn't assault his daughter and coerce her into lying to doctors and the police? How do we know what evidence the medical examiner found? Did he find DNA evidence linking the teen or did he simply find signs of sexual abuse that are not specific to any one person?

            Ultimately assuming that just because the child victims father stated something doesn't necessarily give him a free pass in the situation.
      • Memnochxx, on 01/14/2008, -1/+10Does it even matter if she volunteered? Which of course she didn't. It's a stepbrother 10 years older than her.
      • MattnJax, on 01/14/2008, -1/+17The article states the father walked-in on it happening.
        • pavvy, on 01/14/2008, -3/+3unless dna evidence links the teen to the crime, the father's word must not be taken immediately as the truth.
      • fadeout, on 01/14/2008, -3/+19She is 8 years old, sicko.
        • bjornski, on 01/14/2008, -3/+3The Dude: *****' Quintana... that creep can roll, man.
          Walter Sobchak: Yeah, but he's a pervert, Dude.
          The Dude: Yeah.
          Walter Sobchak: No, he's a sex offender. With a record. He served 6 months in Chino for exposing himself to an eight year old.
          The Dude: Oh!
          Walter Sobchak: When he moved to Hollywood he had to go door to door to tell everyone he was a pederast.
          Donny: What's a... pederast, Walter?
          Walter Sobchak: Shut the ***** up, Donny.
      • Wugie, on 01/14/2008, -3/+13Shes 8 you ***** idiot
      • tech42er, on 01/14/2008, -0/+11Sporg, the article says it was rape, not that ***** statutory rape, so it's safe to assume that it was forced and the stepson is clearly a sick rapist.
        • sporg, on 01/14/2008, -14/+2This is a fox news site in case you did not notice I dont take anything they say at face value. Its clearly not right by any standard but the father is just as ***** in the head as the son.
        • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1@ sporg:
          You went from saying there was 'no way of determining that the father didn't drive the son to raping her' to this?
          Slander is a crime you know....
      • Mothrog, on 01/14/2008, -4/+8And the ***** of the night award goes too...
        • amoirae, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4The rapist's mother for bailing him out.
    • Shananra, on 01/14/2008, -9/+2The father could have just given him a really slippery bar of soap and gotten the same effect, minus the second crime committed.
    • Veni_Vidi_Vici, on 01/14/2008, -19/+63An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.
      • centerblack, on 01/14/2008, -13/+191+1=2
        Learn to count- two people are blind in one eye.
        • Velnich, on 01/14/2008, -6/+11You really don't understand the saying do you? Eye for an eye can easily turn into a vicious cycle as more people are "wronged" or perceive themselves to be and then seek revenge which can in turn effect even more people.
          • Monk22, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3oh noes look out for that slippery slope!
          • Solis, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1It's not hard to understand it, it doesn't make it correct though.
          • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1Yes, but the whole world still won't go blind, they'll just all lose an eye each.
      • stevealford, on 01/14/2008, -6/+7A sodomizing for a sodomizing will probably prevent a few future rapes, though. Equal punishment under the law, I say... unless that's what gets them off... then you just cut off their nuts and throw them into a shark tank while they're still bleeding.
      • khellendros1984, on 01/14/2008, -2/+9An eye for an eye and an anus for an anus.
      • NOFXY, on 01/14/2008, -1/+9wouldn't that just leave everyone with one eye and no depth perception?
      • deity, on 01/14/2008, -1/+5You may be all about trusting the government, but I hope this guy(the father) gets a jury trial and someone like me for a juror because there is no way I would convict him.
      • SpectralSounds, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1I hate stupid sayings like that. If you saw your daughter get raped by someone, and you did nothing... and the person who raped your daughter got away with it without any punishment.... You would just accept that? Because that is the stupidest ***** thing I have ever heard in my entire life.
    • dafragsta, on 01/14/2008, -13/+21Dude, don't try to paint this with a vigilante justice brush. It's bad any way you look at it. It's someone trying to inact movie justice on someone else, except this is real life and while the kid might've deserved it, the dad is pretty ***** up too. Anyone who can actually go through with something like that, even in revenge, is nearly equally crazy. Crazy + crazy = more crazy.
      • purzzzell, on 01/14/2008, -3/+9I'm with briguymaine above - if you missed him, he said he has two daughters and is seething and think's it's impressive that this father restrained himself from killing the kid.
        I don't have kids yet, and I don't deny that I may be crazy, but if I were the father, i can't say i wouldn't be searching for revenge as well.
        • illegalcortex, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3I think the point is this: is it more crazy to murder someone or to torture them? I think most societies would say the latter.
      • george@CASE, on 01/14/2008, -2/+3For you to completely understand the emotional burden of the father, wait until you have a daughter.
    • chris1012, on 01/14/2008, -3/+5I heard that they are talking about implementing capital punishment in some states for child rapists and molesters. What bothers me is that so much time and effort is put into punishing people for the crimes instead of prevention. Obviously capital punishment doesn't work, obviously scaring people from these crimes won't stop them, that's why there's still a large number of murder in America and the country still has a high crime-rate.

      People that do these types of things need help, but instead of putting so much focus on punishment for the crimes, why isn't more attention put into prevention. I.e. what could we have done to help this 18 year old and anyone else like him, so that these people wouldn't commit the crime in the first place, that way it's a win win for the son and the girl, instead of having two ruined lives and a devastated family.
      • Waterrat, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1 Sure they need help.but therapy and counseling DOES NOT WORK on these sorry sacks of dog dung.
        The best I see for these puss-bags is to be removed from society for life...You molest a child,life in prison...You kill a child,within six months of your guilty verdict you are killed.
        This won't stop pedophiles, but it will at least put away some of them.
      • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Helped him? Goodness gracious, how would one go about this process? If someone is crazy enough to do this kind of thing in the first place, they'd sodomize their little sisters anyways.
    • NSResponder, on 01/14/2008, -18/+12"got what he deserved "

      Guess again.

      What the kid deserved was a fair trial, and a term of imprisonment *if* he was found guilty.

      -jcr
      • theuncommonman, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4The article said that the father caught the step-son in the act. That sounds fair to me, he went and did what the justice system doesn't have the balls- dealt out an equal punishment. That's damn good parenting if you ask me.
    • mikehrp, on 01/14/2008, -7/+53If an 18 year old raped my 8 year old daughter I think being sodomized would be the least of his worries.
      • Neiby, on 01/14/2008, -3/+25Absolutely. I'd going ***** ape-***** insane if someone raped my daughter. No ***** way would he live if I had any say in the matter. He'd have to pray he never stepped outside in public without protection. Those of you who have young daughters will understand.
        • Ramble, on 01/14/2008, -7/+2But those of you with a working mind won't.
        • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1@ Ramble:
          "But those of you with a working mind won't." quoth the lobotomized man who could not comprehend what the person before him said.
        • str1fe, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1I'm not a parent, but I would sure be ***** pissed if my little 6-year-old niece got raped. I can only imagine what her parents would do.
      • Allegiance, on 01/14/2008, -2/+22As a mother of a daughter, I agree. Unless you're a parent, you'll never understand...
        • Miknarf, on 01/14/2008, -3/+4I understand why would want to. But its important to see that this is a totally selfish act. You would not be doing your daughter any good, since you would be no good to her in jail. So in essence you would be killing someone or torturing someone for selfish reasons just like the rapist.
      • groberts1980, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3Agreed. I'd have killed the sonofabitch. Plead temporary insanity in court. What lawyer wouldn't be able to successfully argue temporary insanity in a case such as this? Not if it appeared calculated though (as it would with the sodomizing). Just walk up to the police station to pick him up and put two bullets in his brain.
        Then again, another school of thought is to let him be sent to prison. I know I don't have to describe what they'd do to him there. I think that'd be fair punishment, too.
    • FadieZ, on 01/14/2008, -9/+5The mom is pretty retarded for letting him pick her son up though.
      • nakp88d, on 01/14/2008, -1/+10She already proved that once by letting him out on bail in the first place.
      • Escamotage, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4Dad: "I told you: Don't post his bail!"
        Mom: "I'm posting his bail. Oh by the way, can you pick him up for me? I have to go grocery shopping."
        Dad: "uh...sure."
    • amacinnis, on 01/14/2008, -11/+4"Three hots and a cot".

      Haha, I feel bad for knowing that's from Gears of War.
      • qwertydvorak, on 01/14/2008, -1/+15you should feel bad for not knowing that its a very old saying.
    • GorfTron, on 01/14/2008, -1/+17Do you see what happens when you ***** your sister in the ass? See what happens, son? See what happens when you ***** your sister in the ass? This is what happens when you ***** your sister in the ass!!
      • wordglue, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3My car. My baby. My car. The ***** are you doing man? Stop it. I just bought that ***** car last week. I'm going to ***** kill you. I just bought the ***** car last week. I'll kill YOUR ***** car man...
      • str1fe, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1*****, I know the reference but I can't place it. Family Guy, Brian?
    • twotimesthru, on 01/14/2008, -1/+14I agree with skate... ***** the stepson.. I have met a few people who have been sexually abused at a young age and they are still very affected by it.. cold sweats, nightmares, social issues.. these things are really intense.. and I do not believe that a little jail time will tell this guy not to do it again.. just like child molesters of wife beaters, rarely do they actually change and become a completely safe person..
      • groberts1980, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Exactly. Ever seen Loveline with Dr. Drew back in the day? Nearly every person who called in with serious issues, Drew would always ask, "were you sexually abused as a child?" The answer was almost always yes. It really ***** people up as adults.
    • eld4nt3, on 01/14/2008, -14/+9What the *****? Who are you people? You can't just take the law into your own hands like this. Real life is not like "Death Sentence-" we have a criminal justice system for a reason.
      • misseclectica, on 01/14/2008, -3/+6A criminal justice system whose effectiveness depends on how much you can drop for a lawyer/psychoanalyst, and who imprison hundreds upon hundreds of falsely accused innocents while letting still more true perpetrators walk the streets after minimal sentences to commit the very same crimes again.
        • whatever01, on 01/14/2008, -5/+3Anarchy, chaos and barbarism are much preferred, eh? The whole point of a legal system, what made the Code of Hammurabi so important, was that it took punishment out of the hands of the individual, and gave it to the state. Why is this important? Because, without it, the cycle of revenge just grows. Many of the problems in the Middle East, the Balkans, Turkey, Northern Ireland, the Bloods and the Crip, the Nortenos and the Serenos, the Hell's Angels and the Mongols, etc, etc ad naseum are because people feel they, on only they, can create justice through personal punishment.
          Work to improve the system. Don't just destroy it. Failing that, advocate improvement, don't advocate destruction. Oh, that's right, there's a new story up on Digg.
      • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Please remember that (or so it seems) nearly everyone on Digg agrees with a libertarian viewpoint.
    • KingBroseph, on 01/14/2008, -2/+3If he went to Jail, I'm pretty sure he would have been sodomized anyway...
      • Waterrat, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1 Not necessarily...And who is to say,since he's already raped once,he'd not do it again?
        I don't have children,but i do understand how a parent would feel...it's amazing child rapists are not killed by angry parents..
        I feel all child molesters should be executed.
    • stephant, on 01/14/2008, -4/+20I don't think any of you get it, on either side of the issue. This father did the absolute worst thing he could have done for his daughter. The prosecutor will be forced to prosecute him and a judge will likely be forced to give him a prison sentence when he is convicted (and he almost certainly will ultimately be convicted). So now his daughter gets to grow up without a dad in addition to being molested and she's likely to be at the center of a media hurricane. Nice. I don't feel sorry for the stepson at all but the father has acted in a very selfish way and didn't think of his daughter at all.
      • skyshock1, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5You're certain of that? This is Texas.

        Jury Nullification will happen, be certain.
        • whatever01, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Maybe, maybe not. If the judge plays things tight, they might prohibit introducing the 18 year old's crime as evidence. I am not a lawyer. But I had a friend who was foreman of a jury on a gang case. One of the witnesses testified with a huge bandage/cast over much of his face. The jury was instructed to try to ignore it, as it was from an incident unrelated to the case. He later found out that it was because the witness had been shot in the face to prevent him from testifying. Although it seems pretty obviously linked, no, legally it wasn't.
        • deity, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4I hope so. If I were on the jury they would never convince me to convict this guy.

        • groberts1980, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Yep. I would keep the jury in deliberation for months because of my refusal to convict the stepfather. "Not guilty, your honor" are the only words I would speak.
      • kgool, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2"This father did the absolute worst thing he could have done for his daughter."

        Yes, yes he did. Getting caught was a really bad thing.
    • skyshock1, on 01/14/2008, -2/+4Fine then, I'll say it - I *DO* AGREE WITH HIS APPROACH.
    • IxAMxMONGOOSE, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1If only the 18 year old stepson was a cobra...
      • Waterrat, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1A cobra?

        And the point of that is...What?
        • illwil, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1I think that IxAMxMONGOOSE would kill the stepson (if he were a cobra), because IxAMxMONGOOSE likes to think he/she is a mongoose, and mongeese(sp? wtf?) kill cobras(sp? wtf again?)
    • cheesenuggets1, on 01/14/2008, -6/+1An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind...
      • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1No, just without depth perception.
    • borneo66, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1... and now this little girl will grow up without her father, one of the very few people who could possibly help her recover from this horrific act.
    • ravage86, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1If you really think this is what he deserves, then I guess he shouldn't be sent to prison.

      This isn't what he deserves, let a judge decide.
    • IglooBurner, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0what makes you any different than the criminal if u inflict his own crime onto himself? your only excuse would be revenge which equates to self satisfaction rite?
    • riskybeats, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1INTERNET ASPLODE!? This is top 10 again? HUHHHHHHH?
    • greendaytona, on 01/15/2008, -0/+0as a person who's been sexually assaulted by someone older that I knew... I think what the dad did was as close to peace as the daughter can get, short of having the daughter personally sodomize the older brother. After I realized what a crime it was and how it affected me mentally with every new person I met, I would cry to sleep at night and through the day, and only 2 thoughts calmed me down: 1. suicide 2. planning a way to sodomize the guy I knew. This took 3 years out of my 20's.
  • rockhound75, on 01/14/2008, -123/+410They should give the father a medal and the teen a colostomy bag that hangs around his neck to compliment a "child rapist" tattoo on his forehead.
    • TheRascalKing, on 01/14/2008, -44/+56Right... they should give men who sodomize 18 year old boys a medal.
      • halligan00, on 01/14/2008, -10/+4118 years old = adult male = man
        boy implies he's not old enough to know better. 8 year olds know better.
        • shodanx, on 01/14/2008, -12/+31it's a child until 22 if it's a victim,
          it's an adult from 12 when it's the perpetrator
          get your fact straight america !
          • sparsely, on 01/14/2008, -3/+9I think you may be being dugg down because of the context of your comment. Regardless, it's the sad and ridiculous truth.
        • archiesteel, on 01/14/2008, -15/+12So if he had been 17 years + 11 months old, then it would have been bad?
          The kid (and yeah, you're still a ***** kid when you're 18) clearly has severe sociopathic issues. He needs to do time, but most of all he needs psychotherapy. We can understand *why* the father did what he did, but as a society we *cannot* condone it.
          • Denithor, on 01/14/2008, -10/+20You people with this whole, oh, we need to be peaceful when somebody rapes our little girls need to get a clue. There comes a point where you have to stand up and say this isn't right and I have to do something about it because the system doesn't work. Or have you not been reading any of the news lately where, the rapist gets out of jail and then immediately goes and rapes another girl. The system obviously does not work, so why try to defend a broken way of trying to do things? The father may not have used his best judgment, but I think he did, he gave that bastard what he deserved and didn't kill him. I think he showed remarkable restraint. If you walked in on your 18 year old stepson butt-***** your 8 year old daughter, what would you do? (Probably say, "We need to have a talk son.") I applaud this father for doling out some of the justice that these type of people need, because sticking them in a little room where they are comfortable for the duration of their sentence is *****.
          • homeagain1, on 01/14/2008, -7/+3*****. I honestly can't believe a large part of the diggers seem to defend what this father did. Noone who is good in the head would do what he did, no matter what the person had done.

            You say that the system does not work, but do you really think that sodomizing people is going to help at all?
          • rabidbob, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4While I understand where you are coming from, and that it is very easy to dispassionately stand back and say "that's not right, justice should prevail" when you are not involved, I honestly can't say that I wouldn't do the same if I was in the father's shoes.
      • nycmac247, on 01/14/2008, -8/+26don't have kids, do you?
      • execute85, on 01/14/2008, -6/+6Dugg, in a non-sarcastic way.
      • DrCyclops, on 01/14/2008, -14/+7Last time I checked we do still have trials in the United States, where the accused is found guilty or not guilty by a jury of his peers and punished accordingly.

        You know, as long as people like you don't have a say in it.
        • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1So is the dad going to have a jury of other fathers of young children, or is the 18-year-old going to have a jury of other child rapists?
    • Ajajadude, on 01/14/2008, -16/+6While the kid gets some sort of reduced sentence. The kid would've gotten his in prison, but the stepfather's actions are only going to help the kid's defense.
      • aukxsona, on 01/14/2008, -1/+16Not in Texas. He might fry.
        • bobcatred, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2As appealing as that might be to the stepdad, even Texas only uses capital punishment in cases of murder.
          • aukxsona, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Crap that's right LA uses it for non murder.
      • Skooma714, on 01/14/2008, -1/+6How? What does it matter what happens to him after the crime takes place?

    • DrCyclops, on 01/14/2008, -2/+14How?

      "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. My client most assuredly ass-raped that 8-year old girl. But before you render your verdict, do consider that he was in turn ass-raped by the girl's father!"

      Yeah, sounds like a recipe for extenuating circumstances ex post facto to me.

      If the majority of the responses in this thread are any indication, I'd say there's little to no chance of it having any positive effect on his defense at all. At most the jury be back there eating donuts and drinking coffee saying "Yeah, he sure got what he deserved. Glad it happened. Rawr. Guilty then?"
    • floridiot2, on 01/14/2008, -5/+15I'd give the dad community service if I was the judge.
      • mickcn, on 01/14/2008, -0/+10I'd give him a pat on the ass.
      • cbuddha42, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3You wouldn't like your bench if you were a judge? Ignoring the law because of how you personally feel about a situation is a sure way to not be a judge for long.
      • deity, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6If I were the prosecutor it would never go to trial. I would recommend the dad go to "therapy" for a little while. Then I would recommend "Rapist" being tattooed on the 18 year olds head.
      • amoirae, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5That community service would include a medal, a citation for service to the public good, and a pony for his daughter.
    • TridenTBoy, on 01/14/2008, -5/+5Got a question for you, weren't we supposed to boycott fox...???
      • mickcn, on 01/14/2008, -3/+2Yes. Thats why you just do what I do, and learn about the article from the digg comments.
    • beldenge, on 01/14/2008, -8/+7I would give the father a F-ing trophy.
    • MacTyler, on 01/14/2008, -3/+1In the article it says he soddomized him with "a metal tool", but didn't they already mention that at the beginning, the baseball bat.
    • LaerrusFish, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1People are just falling into the FOX trap as they make us think the country is going to hell then they promote a Neo-con Christian agenda.
  • sambalicious, on 01/14/2008, -249/+756You lot sound almost as barbaric, BOTH crimes are horrific. Two wrongs do not make a right. The teenager did something so heinous it cannot be imagined but what sort of man goes and sodomises someone to get revenge?? Totally disgusting too...
    • MyVamp, on 01/14/2008, -67/+49I agree with you. The step-father is just as sick as his son. They both need help.
      • centerblack, on 01/14/2008, -7/+27There is a certain line, that you do not cross. Hollywood gore movies are proof that 'normal' humans can come up with some pretty sadistic ***** up ***** without actually performing any of those actions. I would be pretty ***** angry if anyone sodomized my 8yr old daughter. That it was his step son... probably made him even more angry. You should be able to trust your family.

        I don't find it strange or outrageous that this guy would go eye for an eye on the kid. IMO the teenager got off easy. He's done irreparable damage to his mother, step-father, step-sister and family all around.

        If it was probably anyone else they would have killed him.
      • shodanx, on 01/14/2008, -5/+5they both need help
        but they'll both get punishment instead
    • MacnCidar, on 01/14/2008, -43/+204....and if it was your kid?
      • badenglishihave, on 01/14/2008, -21/+150Personally, I'd have to restrain myself from shoving the bat all the way through his body.
        • sgtbutterscotch, on 01/14/2008, -37/+1Yes, when you found out, I'm sure you would start tearing all the rapist's clothes off and overpower him so as to maneuver him oh so tenderly around so you can get the object in your hand into his *****.
        • mrcabnit, on 01/14/2008, -0/+15according to the story it worked with a metal pole
          • aukxsona, on 01/14/2008, -2/+12Too bvad it didn't come out his mouth so he couldn't call the police.
      • capiCrimm, on 01/14/2008, -31/+20and if it was his kid he probably would control himself and allow the courts to do their job. Not everyone practices vigilantism.
      • Ajajadude, on 01/14/2008, -20/+8You have to think that his course of action will only hurt his daughter further and will probably get the stepson some sort of reduced sentence.
      • shodanx, on 01/14/2008, -25/+6parents are instant sick ***** vigilantee when something bad happens to their kids
        they would rather let a thousand people die than let something bad happen to their precious little artifact child
        those people don't have the morals to decide over other people's fate
        • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1You, my friend, are without any doubt a *****.
      • bocaJWho, on 01/14/2008, -4/+16That's why the father doesn't serve as jury in our system of jurisprudence.
        • hierophantus, on 01/14/2008, -2/+6Exactly. And there's a lot more to that statement than most reading it will realize. It goes far beyond this case.
        • DrCyclops, on 01/14/2008, -4/+13Juris-what? That sounds like Commie talk to me. Or terrorist talk. Whatever.
      • Bostocks, on 01/14/2008, -2/+10That's always the response to anyone who argues against corporal and capital punishment, what if it was your kid/wife/mother. Yes, if it was, I would feel that it was a justified act, but that's the reason we invented an independent system to bring order to the chaos. If everyone were to take revenge instead of calling the police we would be living in virtual anarchy.
        • Outdoor83, on 01/14/2008, -1/+7I couldn't agree more. It's why we have a justice system: so that the people who are out of their minds crazy (you would probably argue that a dad whose 8 year old daughter was raped by his 18-year old stepson was probably not in his right mind when he heard about it) have a disincentive to do something crazy. This applies to criminals everywhere, not just the ones for whom we think they have a reason.
      • neomillenium, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1The only punishment suitable that I can think of would be to draw and quarter the 'son'.
      • MariusC, on 01/15/2008, -2/+0Kid rapists have no rights. You're part of the problem.
    • MaximusPryme, on 01/14/2008, -35/+26So you should lose any sense of morals and ethics because you were wronged? That's the thinking that America is stuck in and why we're going to war against the everybody.
      • sgtbutterscotch, on 01/14/2008, -3/+8Who are you talking to? That reply doesn't correspond at all to the parent comment and you get dugg up just for criticizing the war in Iraq.
      • Defuser, on 01/14/2008, -16/+11Oh, STFU, *****. You clearly don't have any sense of "morals and ethics" RIGHT NOW, so you can take your smug self-righteousness and shove it up your ass. Apparently, you just saw this thread as an excuse to make a moronic "let's bash America" post, which means you can DOUBLE go ***** yourself.
        • OldJesser, on 01/14/2008, -6/+8Not that I agree with MaximumPryme, but stop crying "America bashing" just because there's a criticism against your country.
    • Sun.Surfin, on 01/14/2008, -9/+38If it was my kid, I still wouldn't... *cough* sodomize the culprit... who does that? :P
      And I love this submission's title.
      • Denithor, on 01/14/2008, -4/+4RTFA - He used a "metal object" so technically it's not sodomy, just shoving a metal pole up his butt so the step-son can see how it felt to the 8 year old.
    • Louis11, on 01/14/2008, -35/+73"Two wrongs do not make a right."

      I beg to differ . . . I can bet he won't be raping any 8 year olds any time soon :-P
      • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -8/+9I bet you despite being sodomized, if he wasn't sent to jail he'd still do it. Sodomizing a kid with a metal object doesn't fix the problem.
        • jackkerouac, on 01/14/2008, -4/+13Maybe not, but it's pretty ***** funny.
        • elint6, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2He would've been sodomized in jail anyway....
      • RungeKutta, on 01/14/2008, -5/+2You can beg but it wont help.
      • DrCyclops, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Wow, your logic is even better than his!
      • grock900, on 01/14/2008, -5/+5you're as misguided as the father and the teenager
      • biotch, on 01/14/2008, -1/+8yeah ... sometimes the only way to teach someone why you dont do something is to have it done to them. Some people just cant properly empathize with others until it is a problem they have experienced personally.
      • cbuddha42, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4It's a pity being sexually assaulted increases the risk of committing acts of sexual violence.
      • Jugalator, on 01/14/2008, -3/+1"I can bet he won't be raping any 8 year olds any time soon :-P"

        Why not? This stuff is exactly what breeds child abusers. They're often abused themselves. Heck, who knows what happened BEFORE this boy raped the girl within that weird family?
      • Etheo, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1Interestingly enough though, the father was the only witness to the stepson allegedly "raped' the 8 years old. There was evidence but who's not to say the father himself has some kinda sick fantasy in sodomizing somebody (which was the evidence on the 8 years old) and in turn blamed the son when he's too close to the truth... and THEN further fulfilled his fantasy with the stepson?

        I know this is like a 0.00001% possibility, I'm just being an ***** devil's advocate. Go ahead, digg me down now.
    • maretten, on 01/14/2008, -14/+4"Two wrongs do not make a right"
      Sodemy isn't wrong.
      • bjornski, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4In the way it was done? Yes it was.
      • stevealford, on 01/14/2008, -1/+8Your spelling of it is, though.
        • maretten, on 01/14/2008, -2/+2HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Proper grammar on digg doesn't matter, douche.
    • Jak08, on 01/14/2008, -2/+6Well I can imagine it, and what is so horrible about scaring both emotionally and physically someone who is able commit crimes and then most likely end up on parole in 18 months for good behavior.
      • eclectro, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Or earlier if there is not space or money for the jail.
    • Defuser, on 01/14/2008, -48/+65You, and all the people that Dugg you Up, are gutless ***** cowards. Furthermore, you're subhuman *****. You people make me want to vomit. How you can even call yourself human while spouting this "Oh, my, how BARBARIC that someone was actually ANGRY that their 8-year-old daughter was RAPED" ***** is beyond me. Apparently, you have no clue whatsoever what it's like to feel empathy for an innocent child. The world would be a better place if the rapist and all of you that are supporting him (and yes, you're supporting him, no matter how you whimper about 'both acts were wrong') were dropped directly into a live volcano.
      • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -16/+23"Apparently, you have no clue whatsoever what it's like to feel empathy for an innocent child" .. How does condemning the actions of her father equate to not having any empathy for an innocent child?

        "are gutless ***** cowards"
        It takes more courage to restrain yourself in those situations than it does to do what that man did. You think it was courageous what he did? I don't blame him for his anger, and honestly I don't know why the police handed the stepson over to him, how could they not foresee something like this would happen. But don't ***** tell people that they have no clue what it is to feel empathy for an innocent child. One has nothing to do with the other.
        • notthemama, on 01/14/2008, -2/+3i'd guess since the father was his legal guardian, being his stepdad, and that they knew the parents had bonded him out of jail, they had no reason to expect it.
          Plus, they probably figured most parents in such a situation would be too law abiding or chicken (take your pick) to do anything to the 18 year old.
          Personally, I think the kid was gonna have it happen to him one way or another. When he went to jail, chances are good the word would get out about what he did and he'd be someone's bitch. The stepdad probably did him a favor. He'll probably get a lot less time in jail due to the extenuating circumstances.
          The kid is actually sort of lucky that the guy didn't go any farther. The stepdad could have done a lot worse to him, such as some slicing off of parts or a late detour to a bad neighborhood.
        • deity, on 01/14/2008, -4/+6Doing nothing, never takes courage.
        • tannerpetry, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Maybe the cops had daughters too, and didn't particulary care what happened to the child rapist. They put those guys in jail knowing full well what is going to happen to them....I don't see a huge difference.
      • shodanx, on 01/14/2008, -18/+3hey you little *****, why don't you go back to your cave you ***** ape man
      • archiesteel, on 01/14/2008, -12/+30Opposing cruel and unusual punishment isn't taking the side of the rapist, you *****. It's called the ***** rule of law.
        You can feel empathy towards the victim and still not turn into a raging ball of hate. The 18-year old rapist needs to do time, and needs to be treated so he isn't forever lost as a member of society. The father also needs to be prosecuted and follow some sort of therapy. You *cannot* condone vigilantism in a civilized state.
        • lpcustom, on 01/14/2008, -4/+10What is this "civilized state" you speak of? Convicted sex offenders who have assaulted children should be put to death or given life in prison. Then sick ***** like this may think twice about doing something like this. People like this 18 year old male(notice I didn't say boy, like so many other posts) are walking around free all over the country. I have two daughters and a stepson. I don't want this guy doing some time and then getting out on good behavior. If more people got sodomized with a metal pole like he did when they commit these type of crimes, I'm thinking less crimes like this would occur. I'm not condoning what the father did, but most fathers know why he did it. Personally, if I caught anyone doing anything remotely like this to one of my daughters, the metal pole I would use would be the barrel of a shotgun. You may think I'm crazy but if you know I'm willing to go that far I bet you won't try that ***** on my daughters.

          To contrast what I just said, however, this could also be the result of very bad parenting on the fathers part. He could be the reason the stepson is so screwed up. They probably used the "parenting in a pill" technique that is all the rage these days.
          • TheMidnight, on 01/14/2008, -2/+6The main problem with life terms or the death penalty for sex offenders is the increase in murder rates. Many predators will have sex with a child no matter what the penalty because they think they'll get away with it somehow and because they're twisted ***** who will do what they want, and don't care about the penalty. If they're facing life in prison or the death penalty, they'll kill their victim to keep them from testifying, which in their minds reduces the likelihood of getting caught. At least most sex crime victims live to tell the tale, despite the trauma. It's the same reasoning behind the people who run from the cops in California when they're facing the three-strikes life-in-prison law. They run no matter the cost because the penalty will be the same.
          • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -2/+4"You may think I'm crazy but if you know I'm willing to go that far I bet you won't try that ***** on my daughters. "
            Yes, because pedophiles are rational people. Listen to yourself. You're saying a pedophile won't do ***** to your daughter because he's afraid of what you'll do to him? Are you serious? Pedophiles no very well what prison mates would do to them and it doesn't stop them, what makes you think they'd stop because the father of their victim would do something? It's nonsense. They know very well that if they get caught they're ***** one way or another.
        • Ryvenn, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0Read the Starship Troopers book. Cruel and unusual punishment is THE ONLY WAY to discourage behaviour. A dog pisses on your carpet, you don't pat it, YOU KICK IT! You make sure it knows to NEVER do that again. ***** all that timed reformation punishment *****, if somebody isn't horribly hurt, scarred or humiliated by punishment then IT ISN'T PUNISHMENT!
      • Extracheese, on 01/14/2008, -4/+5Your point is certainly valid, but your language....seems like you forgot alla botu empathy.
      • rarson, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3You know, no matter how angry I'd be if it were me, I wouldn't be able to sodomize someone. Maybe I am a gutless ***** coward, but I wouldn't be able to do it. Not that I wouldn't do it because it's wrong or something, I just wouldn't be able to do it.

        Personally I think the kid got what he deserved, but ultimately, it's probably kind of pointless and unnecessary.
      • badlogik, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2You need to cool off, but you are right. Nothing the father could have done to the stepson would compare with what the stepson did to the child, so have at it.
      • staffa, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5Takes a _creative_ mind to equate opposing sodomy with supporting the rape of an 8 year old.
      • johnnysaucepn, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1By doing the same to the abuser as was done to the victim, the dad is actually putting himself in a position of empathy with the attacker. Empathy is to understand the emotional state of another - if he was at all capable of feeling empathy for his daughter, he would be with her and looking after her, not chasing after revenge.
        • Ryvenn, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0That 8 year old girl had not just raped that 18 year old piece if *****'s daughter had she?
      • MariusC, on 01/15/2008, -1/+0Man, if you run for the president, I would vote for you :)
    • DurtyJ, on 01/14/2008, -35/+64That is the most hippy ***** I've heard all week. This guy KNEW the system was going to do ***** all to punish his stepson. An 18 year old SODOMIZED an 8 year old. A ***** EIGHT YEAR OLD. I see so many comments on child porn cases where we need to be harsher on these perverts, beat them etc. And yet SOMEHOW you are defending an 18 year old who raped an 8 year old. Good God, you are EXACTLY the reason your country is as ***** up as it is. Sympathizing with the criminal instead of the victim.

      Like someone else said, if it was your child, you wouldn't be saying that.
      • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -17/+18"Sympathizing with the criminal instead of the victim. " ... How the ***** does condemning the actions of the father equate to not having sympathy for the 8 year old girl? One has nothing to do with the other
        • Denithor, on 01/14/2008, -6/+13Because that is all they talk about, is how the father was wrong, they don't make any mention of what the 18 year old did, but instead only mention how horrible it is that the father did that to him. That's what makes "condemning the actions of the father equate to not having sympathy for the 8 year old girl"
      • Firehed, on 01/14/2008, -24/+9He didn't sodomize the 8-year-old. Sodomy is up the ass, which is what the son *got*, not gave.

        And you're being retarded anyways. Absolutely nobody here is defending the 18-year-old's actions. Not one. They're saying that vigilante justice was not the solution, and they're quite right in such a statement.
      • archiesteel, on 01/14/2008, -13/+11See my response above. Upholding the rule of law isn't "sympathizing with the criminal instead of the victim." If you can't understand that, then *you* are the reason the country is as ***** up as it is.
        • DurtyJ, on 01/14/2008, -6/+6Sorry, son. But the fact is you know what would happen in the justice system. Please tell me you think a few years in jail is punishment enough for raping an 8 year old. The fact is, if the justice system WORKED like it should, and all these hippy fags had not screwed it up with civil liberties for criminals, then no one would BOTHER with vigilante justice. Vigilantism picks up where our justice system left off. K? thnx.
      • DrCyclops, on 01/14/2008, -10/+4Well, thank goodness we have laws in this country to keep psychopaths like you from acting out their depraved revenge fantasies every time a crime is committed that tickles your outrage bone.
        • DurtyJ, on 01/14/2008, -5/+7Oh, ok. You have laws to keep psychopaths from acting out depraved revenge fantasies but not so much for 18 year olds raping 8 year olds? My bad! You got me!
          • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -1/+4Are you dense? He wasn't convicted yet. First there's a trial, then there's the verdict, then jailed if found guilty. If you want to skip the first two steps move to Saudi Arabia
      • HenvY, on 01/14/2008, -1/+7If you think the system isn't going to punish him, you're a retard.
        • quraid, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2its never about punishment. its vindication.
        • DurtyJ, on 01/14/2008, -3/+1I don't think the system isn't going to punish him, I KNOW they won't punish him. How many years do you think he would get for it? 1? 3? 5? I'm betting sentenced to 5, off at 3 for good behavior. Even if he got put away for 5, hell, if he got put away for 10 - I still don't think that the justice system is punishing him. 10 years in jail for ruining an 8 year olds life. You realize she will NEVER be the same as she was before the attack, right? I hope you do, because if this happens to your wife, daughter or mother - I'll be there to stick up for his 'civil liberties'
      • Firgof, on 01/18/2008, -0/+1Au contrare, DurtyJ, the father should be prosecuted as well. John Adams did not represent British soldiers only for the sake of principle; we
        do not and should not condone vigilante justice. Punishment should be given to those who break the law.

        If you look back carefully, you will see that the founding fathers who built the United States _never_ condoned vigilante justice, nor did they
        ever see that those who did vigilante justice went unpunished. This said, many of them would willfully, and intently, break a law if their
        reason was just and then suffer the punishment. This is to send the message: "If it was truly worth breaking the law over, then you shall have
        your day in court. A cause worthy enough to mandate the breaking of the law is far more than worth suffering punishment for."

        Justice is a matter of course; if your course is unavoidable and justifiable, it will remain Justice; your actions will be proven a just cause. Leniency is the court's way of giving you as much a slap on the wrist as a court can give. The slap is necessary but so also is ensuring that the case is treated fairly and in context with the situation it occurred in.
    • centerblack, on 01/14/2008, -6/+40I disagree. The teenager got off easy- if the guy wasn't his step dad, he would very likely be dead. There's really just no excuse for this. There are certain lines which you just don't ***** cross. They are well laid out by society and by 18, not only should he have clearly understood, this idea of sodomizing his step sister should never have even entered his mind.

      The kid is ***** sick.
      The dad was just enraged.
      Put kid in solitary for 12 months and then toss a gps bracelet on his leg and have him go to psych exams once a week for the next 20 years of his life.
      • echo1, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1"just enraged"
        yeah, only anger fuels the drive inside someone to sodomize a kid. nothing crazy about that at all. just passion.
        • mikestro, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1When you have kids, maybe you'll understand.
      • jabelar, on 01/14/2008, -0/+0The point is that when you cross certain lines, you should expect to die or worse. As soon as you crawl into someone's house for burglary, as soon as you start to rape someone, etc, your life is forfeit. In fact, I think this is the boy's best chance at actually becoming reformed -- now he knows what it is like to be a victim from a trusted family member. Too bad the dad didn't do this when he first caught the kid, because now it is premeditated and harder to defend as a purely emotional reaction.
    • pe5t1lence, on 01/14/2008, -10/+3But two lefts make a right. and two nickels won't buy a stick of penny candy anymore, son.
      • TheTankengine, on 01/14/2008, -0/+6Uhh... three lefts?
      • blup3ace, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8buried. two lefts make a back turn. three lefts make a right.

      • DurtyJ, on 01/14/2008, -1/+8Dugg. They were very sharp left turns - 135 degrees each to be exact. It happens.
        • controlguy, on 01/14/2008, -2/+1Big deal, I can do 180-degree left turns.
      • screensnot, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2Wouldn't you need to make 3 lefts?

        edit: I was a little late, I guess.
      • Sirking, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2Two lefts make a backwards...
      • stevealford, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2Three lefts make a right. Two lefts only make a U-turn.
      • pe5t1lence, on 01/15/2008, -0/+1aww, buried for a brain typo
    • xxxana, on 01/14/2008, -17/+10You're an idiot. This is justice at its best. An eye for an eye... In this case, a brown, winking eye :p
      I love this kind of punishment. The world would be so much better if everyone was punished accordingly.
      Rape someone => get your dick cut off/ get raped.
      Kill someone => get tortured, very painfully, until death.
      Also, every criminal should have a tattoo on his forehead, stating what crime he commited.
      Vigilantes ftw.
      • OldJesser, on 01/14/2008, -1/+8I have to admit, when someone I knew got raped I was just as enraged as the father and I would have killed the rapist had the opportunity presented itself. But it would not have been the right thing to do. The problem with vigilantism is that they are deciding the punishment, rather than society. If a vigilante decides, for example, that not covering your whole body as a woman is a crime punishable by rape, then that vigilante would be justified under your opinion for raping that woman. The courts need to be deciding the punishments, and the executive branch needs to carry that out, not the first angry citizen that sees the criminal.
      • shodanx, on 01/14/2008, -5/+2hope you get burned on a stake by a mob
        like you won't be screaming like a bitch that you didn't get a trial HA

        but it's ok, only bad people are on the end of vigilatee justice
      • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -1/+8// An eye for an eye //
        The bible is a horrible standard of justice. Not to mention the bible's "laws" on rape:
        " If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." - Deuteronomy 22:28-29

        Maybe now you know why humans don't refer to the bible when thinking of justice.
        • onestarleft, on 01/14/2008, -2/+2Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. - Jude 1:7

          I guess it depends how and where you're reading.
          • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -1/+1Except the quote I posted explicitly talks about rape. Your quote applies to cities where "sexual deviance" was rampant.
        • AuroraAlpha, on 01/14/2008, -1/+5I don't know. I think it could be a system. Just think how dating would work!

          1. Just find a really hot, smart girl you want to marry.
          2. Rape her...
          3. Pay dad $0.50
          4. Marry her!
          5. Be a lazy husband since you can't divorce, so she is forced to be your wife forever.
      • ryansays, on 01/14/2008, -2/+4Are you ***** kidding me? Wow, I thought that we lived in a civilized country? What happens when you find out after cutting someone's dick off or torturing them that they are actually innocent? The fact that you say you love any kind of punishment says a lot already... Unbelievable.
      • archiesteel, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5You should go to Saudi Arabia, that's the kind of justice they have there. Also, there are no judicial errors, ever! Isn't that great?
      • hierophantus, on 01/14/2008, -1/+5I am forwarding you several brochures:

        "Real Estate Guide to Wonderful Singapore"
        "Why The New Testament Doesn't Count"
        and
        "The Superiority of Justice under Sharia"

        I'm sure that after you move and convert, you'll be much happier than here in woefully unenlightened America.
      • SuperMoses, on 01/14/2008, -1/+2"The courts need to be deciding the punishments, and the executive branch needs to carry that out, not the first angry citizen that sees the criminal."
        It's sad that we're in the 21st century and people still need to be reminded of this. Are we entering a new dark age?
      • johnnysaucepn, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1Yeah, let's make sure that trivial matter of a trial and a guilty verdict gets cut out, right?
    • DrCyclops, on 01/14/2008, -15/+10Then consider moving to the Middle East, *****. I prefer my civilization with a side of order and reason. Take your death fetishism to a place that wants it.
    • Extracheese, on 01/14/2008, -2/+16I don't think this is two wrongs. The rapist was served justice in on his own terms. As a society we cannot accept this as a form of punishment in the same way that killing a murderer isn't because it solves nothing. But you can't deny that though it was very primitive and vulgar, but you can't deny it was the purest form of justice.
    • MrsFisty, on 01/14/2008, -3/+12If it were my daughter, I would have gone Sin City on him. You try and tell me how "level-headed and restrained" you'd be if this happened to your child.
    • TsuruchiBrian, on 01/14/2008, -2/+162 wrongs don't make a right

      but 3 rights make a left
    • toasty168, on 01/14/2008, -0/+212 wrongs don't make a right but the 2nd wrong usually makes you feel better
    • chasemus, on 01/14/2008, -3/+1All I have to say: Kant would be proud.
    • ezkils, on 01/14/2008, -1/+12The Dad did that so the stepson could experience what the innocent 8 year old girl did. What would you do if that was your daughter? stand around and do nothing?
      • Jugalator, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1I would at least do something other than rape my family member. I don't see how that would even make me feel better about what he did. What's done is done. *I* would probably be very very torn up and devastated about what he had done, maybe even not let him come back to his family. But I'm simply not destructive in this way by heart.
        • mikestro, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1He wasn't doing it for his own satisfaction. He was doing it to avenge his daughter. His own wife bailed his step-son out of jail even after objections from him. This is NOT some normal family unit here. It's one where everything is turned completely upside down. Also, until you go through something really traumatic, it's hard to predict how you would exactly behave. I've seen the most "logical, reasonable, well-though-of people" totally lose it when ***** like this happens. If you want to unleash someone's inner rage, emotional trauma like this is a good way to do it.
    • dfective, on 01/14/2008, -1/+11You do not have kids do you? I can tell you in many dads this would set off a instinctual rage that may be very uncontrollable. The kid experienced the horror of what he had done. The extreme of what the dad did was probably what many dads would like to do in the same situation....revenge. You just have to understand this situation would ***** with a dads integrity on one hell of a level.
    • doitchinkstyle, on 01/14/2008, -0/+1i wouldn't say the move was right, but i find it somewhat justified.
    • paradexes, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3To be honest, how good is our justice system these days? People go to jail, get out and often commit the same crime over again. It is pretty certain that after the beating the dude got and the ass raping he got from his step dad