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Collegians Standing Up Against the Radical Gay Agenda!!

worldnetdaily.com — Wow...what a breath of fresh air!! A group of college kids who actually arent going to bow and surrender to the radical gay agenda that wants to shove gay marriage down our throats, so they can adopt kids and indoctrinate them in homosexuality!! That's the ONLY way the gays can sustain their movement, since they cannot biologically reproduce!!

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  • ObamaIsCarter2, on 10/02/2008, -9/+16Most heterosexuals dont care who people want to sleep with...that is the individual's private decision!! But the radical gay agenda is a whole different issue that is not about gay acceptance...it's all about GAY DOMINATION!! Gays know they cannot reproduce, so the only way their movement can thrive & flourish is if they can adopt kids and indoctrinate them in the gay lifestyle!!
    • kayala, on 10/02/2008, -6/+10Dugg for self-parody.
      GAY DOMINATION!!!
      • Squidwalk, on 10/02/2008, -4/+10I had a gay friend in college, and my mother told me it bothered her because, "he might recruit you."

        Boy did I give her grief for that! Could you imagine an all-gay army? Their uniforms would be awesome.
      • izackcarson, on 10/02/2008, -4/+8"Their uniforms would be awesome."

        Wow. That just gave me some neat mental pictures. Thanks!
    • lydecker, on 10/02/2008, -5/+12"The only way their movement can thrive & flourish is if they can adopt kids and indoctrinate them in the gay lifestyle!"

      I'm not sure exactly what you mean here, so I'm going to have to do two separate analyses.

      If by "their movement," you mean the existence of GLBT people, then you are saying that gays only exist when kids are adopted and/or indoctrinated into the gay lifestyle. This would mean that you would be able to approach any gay or straight person and know by whom and how they were adopted and indoctrinated into their gay or straight lifestyle. You would be able to find out how people are indoctrinated gay, and how they are indoctrinated straight.

      But the fact is, that you cannot, it's the individual's personal being that is gay or straight, and influence of others doesn't affect that. Most gay people are raised in straight families, and aren't indoctrinated straight or gay, they just are. Gay families haven't shown a significant increase in gay children. It's an individuals personal being that is gay or straight, and their personal decision to embrace that, which most heterosexuals and homosexuals respect.

      Now, if in fact you mean "their movement" is somehow "gay domination," where gays rule the world, then they would need to brainwash people into giving them rights above people of different sexual orientation. This is not occuring and is would not be effective, since there is no technique for such brainwashing or indoctrinating people to give other people superiority.

      In truth, the equality movement is the real movement, and that can survive - as it has - without adopting kids or indoctrinating anyone into a lifestyle. It has to do with people realizing there are many different lifestyles, and that they are acceptable when they don't harm anyone. That's why most GLBT supporters aren't GLBT individuals, but people who are living their own life and letting the GLBT live theirs. And they're looking for the GLBT to share the same privileges of marriage that are afforded to themselves.

      The radical gay agenda is not radical, it's an equality agenda - and that will come with gay acceptance or not. It's not about gay domination, since no gay is encroaching on how straight families operate their families or taking away their rights. It's not about needing to reproduce and breed gay people, since gay children just happen, and can come from any family. It's not about indoctrination, it's about making people realize that you can enjoy your freedoms and let others enjoy them too.
  • jp111, on 10/02/2008, -13/+11

    let the perverts be gone.
    • ThoughtfulWi, on 10/03/2008, -4/+4Did you bling your fairy wand when you typed that?
  • Tookson, on 10/02/2008, -14/+9Stay strong in your faith students. The New Left will cover you with their toxic stench and seething hatred, but don't fear them. Their tactics of slander, violence and intimidation will no longer work on us. It's not easy to stand up for truth in colleges these days where the students have been brainwashed from a very young age by the mindwipers of the New Left, and the school administrators are Marxist antichristian agitators. Been there. Done that. And it's worse now than when I was in college in the 1990s; which is horrifying.
  • LGBTnews, on 10/02/2008, -7/+15The Slavic evangelical community's war on gays continues.
    • ObamaIsCarter2, on 10/03/2008, -7/+4Not nearly as bad as the Sodomite's war on ex-homosexuals who have found deliverance in Christ!! The hatred of the LGBT against former gays FAR EXCEEDS any hatred that is directed toward gays by heterosexuals!!
      • kayala, on 10/03/2008, -3/+2Exclamation points are so fun!! Let's use lots of them!! They'll be sure to get our point across!!
  • SLancaster, on 10/02/2008, -12/+6Father in heaven, I pray for all the gay and lesbians that they would understand before it is too late that you and many Christians love them and want them to experience your presence. We do not seek their eternal damnation because of their slavery to sin. Please, I pray, help them to understand that you do indeed love them, but you hate their sin. Please help them to understand that their sin will be punished as will be the sinner who steals, lies, murders, commits adultery - it makes no matter, sin is sin. Father, if it is possible, show any one of them a glimpse of what awaits any sinner who does not repent and let them tell their fellow sinners what awaits the unrepentant heart. Father, Jesus died for each and every homosexual just like he dies for each and every human being despite their sin. Father, also, make us who have accepted your word more understanding of those we are trying to reach. Give us the words and your wisdom to reach them without being combative. Father, you sent your Son to save everyone, not just those we see fit to save. Even though we do not support the lifestyle and choices make by homosexuals, please give us the loving heart to invite these men and women into your kingdom. Amen.

    Scott Lancaster
    • Harvester1, on 10/02/2008, -10/+7Great prayer, Scott. I too have been praying for the homosexual community, and hope they see that our objections spring not from hate but from a desire to see them forgiven and accepted in the kingdom of God.
    • vickyelyse, on 10/02/2008, -7/+5That is a beautiful prayer, Scott. I wish the LHBT community would understand that we do not hate them as people. We pray that they turn to God and follow His word.

      God bless you from your sister in Christ,

      Vicky
    • kayala, on 10/03/2008, -3/+5Prayer: otherwise known as talking to yourself.
      • yesyoucant, on 10/06/2008, -0/+1Not advocating any particular religion here, but Carl Jung, second only to Freud in terms of psychological renown and stature, once said, "I have treated many hundreds of patients. Among those in the second half of life - that is to say, over 35 - there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life."
    • vickyelyse, on 10/03/2008, -4/+3Try prayer, you'll like it!

      You keep showing your true colors, rainbow people and atheists! Hurl insults and dispursions upon those who disagree with the immoral and sinful lifestyle you lead.

      • kayala, on 10/03/2008, -2/+6Immoral and sinful in your eyes. You must be awfully full of yourself to think that we should care about your personal moral preferences rather than our own.
      • Squidwalk, on 10/04/2008, -2/+5I tried prayer for several years. I prayed in earnest. It still turned out exactly the way kayala said, I was talking to myself.
      • vickyelyse, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Sorry to hear that Squid. Do you ever stop to think that the answer to your prayers was no or that it was answered in a different way than you asked?

        My prayers are not answered exactly as I wish but in God's way and in His fashion. Sometimes the answers are years in coming. Don't give up!
  • Qerq, on 10/02/2008, -11/+7Gay and lesbian organizations have gone to far, and cannot accept any ridicule or see any common ground. They remind me of little kids..
  • zortnac, on 10/02/2008, -7/+14A student organization from a small community college in Sacramento passes a resolution to support prop 8. That's a shocker.

    The student that WND interviews, and who was a former member of the student board, is Slavic, which fits perfectly with the ferocious and violent anti-gay Slavic first and second generation immigrant communities that are huge in Sacramento.

    quote:
    However, Popov said Richney's group has had a history of being divisive and pushing homosexuality onto students.

    "Even before the California Supreme Court decided for same-sex marriage in California, the Interclub Council put on a Valentine's marriage ceremony where they actually 'married' homosexual couples," he said. "They gave them 'certificates.'"
    end quote

    Oh...my God...they, they gave them CERTIFICATES?! This Popov guy *did say* that the radical homosexuals were being divisive and forcing homosexuality on to innocent unsuspecting students, but HANDING OUT CERTIFICATES? Do my people have NO SHAME?!
    • ThoughtfulWi, on 10/03/2008, -3/+5There were a lot of those Slavic homophobes in Chicago when I lived there in the 90s. I understand they kept the bathouses in business.
  • zortnac, on 10/02/2008, -6/+17"That's the ONLY way the gays can sustain their movement, since they cannot biologically reproduce!!"

    My God but you're an idiot. Do you even know what homosexuality is?
    • ObamaIsCarter2, on 10/03/2008, -6/+4Oh...you're telling me that gays have now mutated to the point where they CAN procreate & reproduce?!? LOL
      • TheCatsPants, on 10/03/2008, -3/+5Ted Haggard did.
      • zortnac, on 10/03/2008, -3/+6I'm still really entertained by the fact that you think homosexuals *NEED* to reproduce, as if that's the only way we could have come in tot existence in the first place.

        You're completely ignorant on this topic.
      • kayala, on 10/03/2008, -3/+5I bet someone's little head would asplode if they knew that homosexuality has been present in society since the time of the ancient Greeks.
      • leatherscot, on 11/11/2008, -1/+1Yep - these wackos think we run recruitment campaigns - Logic has left the building...
  • Tookson, on 10/02/2008, -10/+6How can you say you "love the sinner" if you will not speak out against the sin? Don't you know that sin is spiritual poison? If the person you love is committing protracted spiritual suicide, why won't you say anything to them?
    • TheCatsPants, on 10/03/2008, -3/+4There is no sin.
    • vickyelyse, on 10/03/2008, -2/+2CatsPants, if you have no faith or belief in God, then I see your point that there is no sin. HOWEVER, you cannot whitewash or ignore God's laws just for your own convenience.

      You are sadly mistaken.
      • kayala, on 10/04/2008, -1/+4"God's" laws are just as meaningless as Zeus's laws, or Ra's laws. We don't base our legal system in America on any outdated superstition, regardless of how many people fervently wish it were true.
      • bobbi21, on 10/04/2008, -2/+1Well they were originally based on the christian faith and the christian church. Something the country has hopefully gotten away from (sliding back that way of course..)
      • vickyelyse, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1Bobbi, many civil laws are based upon the 10 commandments. Do you really want to "get away" from those? What is wrong about:
        1) Honoring your parents, (yes I know people have issues with their parents, I am not ignorant of them)
        2) Don't murder people.
        3 Stay faithfull to your spouse
        4) Do not steal from others
        5) Do not lie - tell the truth
        6) Do not envy another persons stuff or their spouse (2 laws).

        The other (3) refer to worship of God and are not subject to civil law, but they should not be ignaored.

        Do you really want to get away from these laws and go into a state of lawlessness and anarchy? I truly don't hope so.
  • lydecker, on 10/02/2008, -9/+11The poster in the photo reads: "We are here to learn, not to hate - another dyke voting No on 8.

    WND has credited the picture to "American River News," which I'm trying to find a website for, and as of yet cannot. It's an identical photo to one on this site: http://www.sacbee.com/749/story/1278928.html, which is credited to José Luis Villegas of the Sacramento Bee

    I have found a link to the American River Current, which seems to be their news. There aren't any articles with pictures.

    But of course, for WND to have journalistic integrity is expecting too much.

    ---

    From reading the American River Current, it seems there had been a lot of trouble on campus from a recent organization known as the Christian Civilization Club. "Last semester, the former club became the talk of American River College for its unusual manner of informing the campus. The club set up shop nearly every day with banners stating, 'Islam is not a religion of peace' and 'Muhammad was a racist.' Former CCC member Luke Otterstad has been involved in numerous protests, including a stand he made in San Francisco last semester opposing gay marriage."

    9 alleged members of the CCC ran for SA office and won positions, where barely 300 students voted in the college of 55,000 students annually. 3 of these students were disqualified due to poor grades or lack of sufficient credits, and later 5 of these students resigned with identical letters citing disagreement with the president's choice not to hold a special election to replace the three students.

    http://media.www.americanrivercurrent.com/media/st ...

    http://media.www.americanrivercurrent.com/media/st ...

    http://media.www.americanrivercurrent.com/media/st ...
  • Winston84, on 10/02/2008, -7/+9"That's the ONLY way the gays can sustain their movement..."
    Christ, wonder where all the gays in places like Iran and Saudi-Arabia come from ?
    This is just more extremist hatemongering from WND . Get a brain-transplant ..
  • USNavyBlue, on 10/02/2008, -11/+7If this college receives any federal funds, I guarantee that these funds will be withheld on the grounds of "discrimination."
    • eir574, on 10/02/2008, -5/+15Seems unlikely. This is a group of students taking a position, not the college itself. It's not official policy. The amount of hyperbole in comments on WND articles is astonishing.
  • BXRWXR, on 10/02/2008, -5/+6If gays can't reproduce, how are there any around?

    Hmmmm...
  • Thorthewhore, on 10/02/2008, -5/+9Its not radical it is progressive. If you look the USA is always 10 years behind Europe when it comes to social issues Most likely people of the future will view you people as the same religious nuts who wanted to prevent interracial marriage.
  • fishunlarge, on 10/02/2008, -13/+5I see the homosexuals are out in full force by the amount of buried comments here. The gays don't care if you like them or not, they just don't want you to disagree with them and they will beat you over the head with the proverbial club and try to make you accept them as normal. As a Christian I have to disagree with their lifestyle as God commands it. I will never hurt a homosexual but I will never agree with one either.
    • TheCatsPants, on 10/03/2008, -4/+10Does not agreeing with them also mean denying them equal rights? Homosexuality is a normal thing; a part of the spectrum of human sexuality. You just think it isn't because you think it says so in a certain book.
      PS I'm not gay.
    • izackcarson, on 10/03/2008, -4/+8I'm not gay either. I'm just tired of watching people create misery for others based on the stories of shepherds who lived millenia ago.
    • eir574, on 10/03/2008, -4/+9"The gays don't care if you like them or not, they just don't want you to disagree with them and they will beat you over the head with the proverbial club and try to make you accept them as normal"

      True, some might be too aggressive. You can take solace in the fact that no one has to accept anyone else as normal. The issue is just that your judgement that someone is not normal (or that his behavior is not normal) does not give you license to restrict their rights. That means the rights all of us already have, and the rights that are denied to them for no reason other than your religious beliefs. (No, same sex marriage wouldn't give homosexuals special rights. It would be a new right for everyone.)
  • fredoesfly, on 10/02/2008, -4/+4 Jesus Christ died for the Elect ..Not for everyone...We dont know who the Elect are..We are to Evangelize everyone the gospel of Christ
  • BSdetective, on 10/03/2008, -10/+4Here is some useful information regarding the true nature and purpose of the Militant Homosexuals, posted by someone on a similar article. This list is just a small sample of the actors and groups who support this war on America.

    John D'Emilio is a Professor of History, Gender Studies, and Women's Studies at the University of Illinois, Chicago.
    As part of this effort, D'Emilio's dissertation was one of the first to focus solely on a topic from gay history. His topic of choice: the Mattachine Society, an activist "homophile" organization founded by communist and radical gay men in Los Angeles in 1950. The group, named for a medieval troupe of men who went from village to village advocating social justice, created a grassroots movement to portray homosexuality as something positive, and also strove to create a societal perception of homosexuals as members of a downtrodden minority group. To accomplish this, the Mattachines launched a three-pronged attack: They began challenging law-enforcement efforts to arrest gay men for breaking sodomy laws; they held consciousness-raising sessions with the medical establishment in order to remove "gayness" from the list of mental disorders; and they began polling political candidates on gay rights issues. In 1953 the group was shaken to its core when it came to light that many of its members had ties to COMMUNISM.

    Douglas Crimp, Professor of Art History at the University of Rochester in New York
    Crimp says that ACT-UP "was a weird hybrid of traditional leftist politics, innovative postmodern theory, and access to professional resources." Today the website of the group's New York chapter derisively characterizes members of the Bush administration as "right-wing Christers," and accuses the late Pope John Paul II of having helped "spread AIDS." The website also features a field guide to civil disobedience, and contains links to such organizations as the Ruckus Society, NARAL, and the ACLU.

    Richard Goldstein, a gay activist and the former executive editor of the Village Voice.
    Such is Goldstein's definition of the Right, and his equally narrow-minded prescription for what gays ought not to think. He calls for "integrating the homosexual agenda into the heart of progressive politics, so gay people can see that their interests coincide with the larger struggle for social justice." The "social justice" to which Goldstein refers involves class conflict, the obliteration of capitalism, and the pursuit of utopian idealism; in short, it bears a striking resemblance to Marxism.

    While patent Communism may no longer be a viable viewpoint in a serious political debate today, "progressives" are now the Communists' indistinguishable stand-ins. In his aforementioned book, Goldstein acknowledges as much when he writes that "gay liberation's founders were Communists, and its activist core is still overwhelmingly progressive" [emphasis added]. To him, the most vital mission of gay activism is to save the community's historic association with the progressive cause and to keep the core of activists on the left — above all, to stay away from diversification and authentic political debate.

    The Mattachine Society
    Because of the communist leanings of some of the Society's members, particularly it's primary founder, and its political actions, the society was forced to endure heavy pressure and public scrutiny during the anti-communist McCarthyism period. In a column of the Los Angeles newspaper in March 1953 in regards to the Society, it was called a "strange new pressure group" of "sexual deviants" and "security risks" who were banding together to wield "tremendous political power."

    Gay Liberation
    "Their broad agenda included opposition to consumerism, militarism, racism, and sexism, but was primarily focused on "sexual liberation". The GLF's statement of purpose explained:

    "We are a revolutionary group of men and women formed with the realization that complete sexual liberation for all people cannot come about unless existing social institutions are abolished. We reject society's attempt to impose sexual roles and definitions of our nature."

    For more information on the Militant Homosexual Movement, see the link below.
    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/search/?cx=0132 ...



  • egalicki, on 10/03/2008, -9/+4If these guys trying to remove the members favoring the proposition say they are against hatred and bigotry, why do they hate marriage and heterosexual oriented individuals and activities?

    I am extremely pleased college students have learned enough to distinguish things that will be a detriment to the majority of the population in the educational system. This is amazing. Most college students can barely understand that there is really a right and a wrong. Most have been indoctrinated into moral relativism.

    Congratulations. You did well, even if you lose your positions, you hit a home run. There are many of us out here really pleased with your actions.
    • kayala, on 10/03/2008, -4/+7From where do you conjure the conclusion that anybody, especially a person trying to join the ranks of the married, hates "marriage and heterosexual oriented individuals and activities"?
  • ThoughtfulWi, on 10/03/2008, -4/+3American River College? WTF? I'm thinking, a front for the Russian mafia. River College! LOL! OMG, wonder if Berkeley will be next? Or Stanford. Cause, I hear, as River College goes, so goes academia! ROFL!
  • unconfusedone, on 10/03/2008, -3/+5Let me start by saying that I am a Christian heterosexual.
    People are fond of proclaiming scriptural admonitions concerning homosexuality. Two things about the biblical aspect: The ten commandments do not mention it. Jesus does not address it. He neither condemns nor condones it. Make of that what you will.
    I would venture to say that most people who are fearful of homosexuality or do not understand it, operate from the assumption that to be homosexual is a personal choice.
    I am no expert on the dynamics of human sexuality, but I can address things through my own personal experiences and observations.
    To be honest, you should ask yourself about your own sexuality. Let's assume that you are straight. What turns you on? If you are a man, do you like blonds, brunettes or redheads?
    Do you like women who are short, tall, thin, fat, have narrow hips, wide hips, large breasts, small breasts, have green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes, thin lips, full lips etc?
    When you see a woman walking down the street, what about her causes you to be interested or not interested? Now, answer this about what turns you on and all of the choices listed - "why?"
    Do you stop and think about it? Do you sit down and make a conscious choice about what you like? Do you choose to fall on love or does it just happen? Even if you don't want it to.
    Two men can look at equally attractive women and find one makes him swoon and the other does nothing. This can happen even if the man agrees that the one he does not find interesting is better looking than the one that turns him on. Their is no conscious choice about any of this. It just happens.
    I would think that the same holds true of all humans. We don't choose what turns us on and we don't choose whether to be of either sexual orientation. We are what we are.
    If you believe that it is a choice, then that means you could decide to be a homosexual if you wanted to be one. I have never met anyone who liked the opposite sex who suddenly decided that they would be gay. I am pretty sure that the idea of becoming a homosexual is repugnant to a straight man. The only choice any of us have about our orientation is whether to have sex.
    Which sex to have it with is already decided for us.
    The only exception to this is when people are confined and have no opposite sex around. Homosexuality is not uncommon in prison because their are no opportunities to hook up with the opposite sex.
    There have been cases of homosexuals becoming heterosexuals after much therapy, but more often than not, they eventually revert.
    Many will say that I cannot be a Christian and have this attitude. I will confess that I am not without conflict. To my good fortune, I am not required to accept every word of the Bible as infallible. I only have to accept Christ.
    There militant gay groups and they are boisterous and obnoxious. There are also many other groups of all types that are just as bad. We also have to take into account that gays have to face a lot of hostility and loathing. They are told that they are unwanted and should shut up.
    What do you expect them to do? We say they are forcing themselves on us, but haven't we forced them to be like us?
    What should be done about homosexuals? Should they be arrested for being gay? Should they be arrested for having sex in the privacy of their homes? Should we stone them and kill them? Should they not be allowed to have health insurance? Should they be denied the right to vote? What are we to do with them?
    Just leave them alone, given them equal rights and get on with our lives. You don't have to like it or agree with it. Just mind your own business.
    If God really hates them or what they do, it is His will to do with them what He will in the next world. It isn't up to us
  • ObamaIsCarter2, on 10/03/2008, -8/+5For all you gay folks who have gotten so upset by this article and Digg link, come down from your elitist high horse long enough to admit that gay discrimination against FORMER homosexuals FAR EXCEEDS any so-called hatred of heterosexuals against homosexuals!! Talk to a former gay who has accepted Christ and been delivered from the gay lifestyle and you will realize they THEY are harassed, ostracized and threatened by gays more than most homosexuals are by heterosexuals!! I'm not saying there isnt hatred of gays by heterosexuals...just that it anti-gay hatred is not as widespread in the general population as hatred toward former gays is by the general population of homosexuals!!
    • lydecker, on 10/03/2008, -3/+10Do you have any evidence of that, that this hatred is more widespread among GLBT? Please cite your sources.

      I'd love to talk to a former gay. I'd love to find one. But they're nearly impossible to find, since they don't talk. If I were in their shoes, I'd be all up in public, and letting people research me when I had free time, to prove I was somehow a former homosexual, and so science could help people figure out how to change their sexual orientation if they wanted.

      All I've heard from off-hand accounts of people who claim to be formerly gay is that they're still gay, just denying the sexual part of themselves to fit into a mold like other people they see around them. And I'm against harassment or threats against anyone, including them, for choosing to ignore their homosexuality. I'm a GLBT-ally, and I'm an ex-GLBT ally. I want everyone to be satisfied knowing who they are, and satisfied with their decisions. Which includes people being gay, and it includes people's decision to ignore their homosexuality. I'm opposed, however, to ex-gays who misrepresent the facts about "changing straight", when it's more harmful than it is helpful.

      If you think somehow by calling everyone who's for equality "elitist" solidifies that we're the bad guys, it doesn't. It just shows how everyone is human.
    • vickyelyse, on 10/03/2008, -5/+2The former gays and lesbians don't come around to you because of the discrimination they receive from the G & L community.
      Give me the proof that gays and lesbians do not hate the ex-gays more.
      • lydecker, on 10/03/2008, -3/+6"The former gays and lesbians don't come around to you because of the discrimination they receive from the G & L community."
        Well if they do not want to come to me because I am a GLBT-ally, I'd also like them to come out to the non GLBT community, to normal society, to show how they've successfully changed, to show how everyone can, to actually prove what they say. Or, rather, to prove what the GLBT-opponents say about them. Because I never hear from the ex-gays, only what other people who have supposedly met them have to say. Have you met them? How many? Have they given you permission to speak on their behalf?

        "Give me the proof that gays and lesbians do not hate the ex-gays more."
        I have never said who hates who more, and I won't back up a claim I didn't make. ObamalsCarter did make a claim, and ObamalsCarter needs to back it up. You understand burden of proof, don't you?
      • vickyelyse, on 10/03/2008, -6/+3Your people are always demanding proof. Now I am demanding it of the LGBT community. Support your statements instead of assuming hate and wrongdoing on the part of Christians. Not all of us are "hateful" of others with whom we do not agree.
      • lydecker, on 10/03/2008, -3/+7What statement? Please quote me, so I know specifically. You asked me to support a statement, I'm asking you what statement did I make that you want me to support.

        I know not all of us are hateful of others. I've got many friends Christian just like me who are GLBT allies as well. And we're realizing that we don't need to discriminate and take away legal GLBT rights by changing the constitution to allow discrimination.
      • BettyLou2, on 10/03/2008, -7/+3lyedecker, here are a few examples of former Homosexuals. How many more examples do you require?

        A former homosexual speaks out about homosexuality
        and the politics of dishonesty
        http://www.newswithviews.com/psychology/psychology ...

        Former Homosexual Says 'No one is born gay'
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/953334/posts

        Homosexuality:
        Seeing Past the Propaganda
        http://www.jefflindsay.com/gays.html

        Montel Williams reveals his bias and hostility towards former homosexuals
        http://americansfortruth.com/news/montel-williams- ...

        Vickyelyse, don't let the Militant Homosexual propaganda squad intimidate you. You have the truth on your side.
      • lydecker, on 10/04/2008, -2/+8I require examples of them helping show people proof what specifically can change sexual orientation and how it works, if that's what people claim happens.

        Richard Weller won't say how he changed, or show any evidence of what specifically changed in him, or what specifically can change in others. He cites many things that are not facts, many things about the root causes of homosexuality that aren't based in any evidence. If he had it, it would have been actually presented by reputable scientists and well known. That doesn't exist. The evidence from psychologists shows there aren't known causes of homosexuality. And he's severely misunderstanding what it means to be gay, which is likely why he experimented. He's looking at many things he sees as common in lots of homosexual backgrounds, but doesn't care to address how common these things are common in heterosexual backgrounds as well. It misrepresents the truth, as many against gay acceptance are apt to do.

        The Stephen Bennett link doesn't say anything about how he specifically changed, or offer anything.

        Jeff Lindsay has it right, when he says that we can change our behavior. "We can change and control our behavior, at least to some degree. People have a choice about their sexual activities, in spite of the desires and temptations they face. Solid evidence shows that change is possible." But behavior is different than orientation, and I haven't seen any evidence of that orientation being changed. Just people changing what they do with it- namely, accepting orientation or denying it. Those are the choices and control anyone has.

        The Montel Williams link also doesn't show anything about how people can change.

        Still, I ask people to go out into the world and prove undoubtedly that they know the way to change from homosexuality to heterosexuality, and that it will work for everyone. Go to scientists, and let them research you and see what happened, and let them apply that research to others.

        It'd be very interesting to see if any of these ex-gays would have any evidence to back up what they say, considering the amount of gays, ex-ex-gays, and ex-gay survivors.

        BettyLou, your comments and your links show you aren't devoted to facts, but devoted to wiping out the gays... and trying to turn everyone away from the gays by painting them all as militant, with lies, unjust behavior, full of propaganda, and anything you can to paint them in a bad light. You are dishonest, and I know you feel justified, because of your faith. I pray that one day you'll treat the world with Love, and let others do the same.
      • vickyelyse, on 10/08/2008, -3/+1BettyLou,

        Thanks for your encouraging words, and more importantly, what you wrote and the supporting links. Great work! Don't worry, the militant homossexual lobby will have to do more to get me down. I choose to see the light and God's Word, not the perverted teachings of the left. I still have love for all, regardless of their orientation, but what God has decreed, humans cannot change.
    • leatherscot, on 11/11/2008, -1/+1LOL!

      Former Gay (definition) Happy Gay man, made miserable and brainwashed with guilt by religious right wing wackos to the point of submission, At the point of submission, the poor subject is directed back into the closet.
  • BSdetective, on 10/03/2008, -4/+4THE PLAYBOOK OF THE MILITANT HOMOSEXUAL PROPAGANDA SQUAD

    The Overhauling of Straight America
    Source: Guide Magazine, Nov 1987
    Author: Marshall Kirk and Erastes Pill

    Description:
    This “must read” article, originally published in Guide magazine, November 1987 is the blueprint for the now global homosexual propaganda campaign to replace marriage-based society with a culture of sexual anarchy. A 1999 book based on this outline, titled After the Ball, has become the “bible“ of homosexual propagandists. However, only this article states the “gay” goals and tactics with such alarming frankness.

    "The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preference the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games: she likes strawberry and I like vanilla; he follows baseball and I follow football. No big deal.

    At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full "appreciation" or "understanding" of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing, with a shrug of their shoulders, then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won. And to get to shoulder-shrug stage, gays as a class must cease to appear mysterious, alien, loathsome and contrary. A large-scale media campaign will be required in order to change the image of gays in America. And any campaign to accomplish this turnaround should do six things.............."

    http://www.abidingtruth.com/pfrc/archives.php?id=9 ...

    ** (Read the rest of this article to understand how the Militant Homosexuals are playing you for an idiot and destroying our culture)

    SEND THIS ARTICLE TO YOUR FRIENDS AND ASK THEM TO DO THE SAME.
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