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Chinese Urge Anti-West Boycott Over Tibet Stance

nytimes.com — A popular backlash in China against Western support for Tibet has increasingly unnerved the ruling Communist Party.

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  • mrbeagle, on 04/20/2008, -29/+99I say we boycott the Chinese
  • Cattywampus, on 04/20/2008, -12/+79How are they going to boycott the West... refuse to sell it toothpaste containing anti-freeze?
  • inactive, on 04/20/2008, -18/+77Are Chinese people really so easily brainwashed? Do they not realise, such as during the pro-China demonstrations in the UK last week, that they are supporting a government which would gladly lose half a billion of its own people to keep the totalitarian dream alive?
  • rohan1234, on 04/20/2008, -16/+69It's ironic that they think it's the foreign media that's full of lies.
  • inactive, on 04/20/2008, -13/+66Hypocrite much Chinese? One-sided news coverage? I don't need CNN, Fox, or MSNBC - I at least have the internet, bitcheeeees.
  • ferrariman60, on 04/20/2008, -4/+42Wow, this cycle is degenerating quickly, isn't it?
  • Commonwealth, on 04/20/2008, -5/+34That's okay, we just need to boycott them first and we win!
  • h3smith, on 04/20/2008, -2/+30They can boycott us real easy by ending the buying up our debt and funding our unbalanced budgets. Bring us to our knees quite fast.
  • MercedRocks, on 04/20/2008, -11/+38I say we boycott the lead-filled, slave labor produced crap they send to us.
  • yip144, on 04/20/2008, -5/+32The situation is getting worse.
    As a Hong Kong resident, I really don't think there is much big difference between modern Chinese and the people from the rest of the world.
    China and its people has catch up with the rest of the world so much in the past decade. They play basketball and watch NBA; they learn English and watch desperate housewives; they uses mobile phones and play facebook to play with their friends.
    They are just ordinary people that live their normal lives and only want a non-hostile and stable environment so they can strive for a better living condition for them and their children.
    With all these disbelief and misunderstandings growing, the world would be tear apart and hatred will prevail. That will not be good to world peace and the whole humanity.
    Before you guys digg me down, I just want to say Olympics was supposed to be a great chance to bring people together. Let people from the world know more about the modern China, and also let the Chinese know that the world is not just an hostile jungle.
  • CRCulver, on 04/20/2008, -3/+27Half a billion troublemakers who would only bring strife and chaos to the motherland, of course.
  • inactive, on 04/20/2008, -12/+36It's not like it was that hard to brainwash the US, so I don't see why China would be any better, particularly since the government has a even firmer hold.
  • jiicorp, on 04/20/2008, -7/+30"On Wednesday afternoon, as she sat in a cafe sipping a can of Coca-Cola, Ms. Zhu said she thought the boycott would be a success."

    lol...The best line I saw was this one....boycott my a$$...
  • inactive, on 04/20/2008, -6/+28No, because that doesn't get made in China. It gets made from your local pet cats, and the odd pigeon.
  • AlmostEvil, on 04/20/2008, -4/+26We probably can, just like South Korea, Japan of the past China will reach a point where wages and living conditions will increase forcing an increase in goods prices from China. And just like before the manufacturing base will move to a cheaper country or region. It's bound to happen at some point, the problem is eventually you'll run out of countries that you can make stuff cheaply at. But then, we're probably talking another 50 to 100 years yet.
  • d3vmax, on 04/20/2008, -3/+21"In a demonstration of the Internet’s viral prowess, some 2.3 million MSN users have attached “I Love China” icons to their online profiles as an expression of solidarity against “Tibetan separatists.”
    errr if you want to boycott western products how about you stop using MSN/Live messenger to start with!
  • lphchld, on 04/20/2008, -3/+20Does Chinese Food count?
  • breezytrees, on 04/20/2008, -1/+18Obviously the first place to spread the word is warcraft III and world of warcraft...
  • SpectreFire, on 04/20/2008, -15/+32Christ, this whole Tibet thing has really brought out the racism in people hasn't it?

    It's not the Chinese people who are doing anything wrong, they're no different than anyone else. They're not the ones putting anti-freeze in toothpaste, they're not the one filling toys with lead products. It's all capitalism greed and a handful of sleazy Chinese CEOs who are responsible for all of that *****, yet the internet is so ***** quick to slander 1/7 of the entire world's population.

    Not to mention the Chinese government and people are entirely the same ***** entity. I thought the internet was suppose to be non-bias and free from propaganda crap, I guess that's a non-issue. People in China are pissed because you're slandering their country and ***** up a great moment in their history. Wouldn't anyone be? Not to mention that the boycott of the Olympics is completely stupid. It won't affect the Chinese government, they don't give a *****, so what if countries decide to boycott the Olympics, they're not gonna lose out. But the people, your average joe on the street's gonna lose out big. And they're mighty pissed and they have every right to be.

    So stop being a bunch of racist hypocrites and get your head out of your ass. Internet news is unbiased, but only if you take time to look at both ***** sides first. Instead of just digging up stuff that agree with your sentiments.

    And please, don't talk about "oh, we can produce better quality crap here in America or Canada, we don't need your cheap stuff" cause that, is just utter *****. Course we can produce better crap, but our better crap costs a ***** load of money. Have you seen stuff in tourists shops? Like Made in Canada sweaters, or coffee mugs? I've seen those sweaters sell for $60-$70 in shops, yet just a generic one made in China would cost half of that. So before you all go yelling about how you'd prefer homemade goods, think about it. Do you really want to pay that much, and not only that, but who's gonna work in the factories? You? Do you think any diggers here would rather have a factory job, standing in front of a machinery pressing buttons and making sweaters? Or would they rather have a nice desk job at an IT company? ***** no. There's a reason why factory jobs are being shipped off to outside countries, it's cause there's a dwindling trades force in 1st world countries. Very few people are taking trades in university and college, everyone's going for Business and Computer Science degrees.


  • spacecheese, on 04/20/2008, -3/+19that's it gdmit! I'm going to set fire to every dollar store in my area.
  • inactive, on 04/20/2008, -3/+18Olympics? I'm going fly fishing. Have a great summer people.
  • jordanau, on 04/20/2008, -17/+321. The Chinese and Tibetans are fighting.
    2. We publicly denounce China for what they are doing.
    3. They get pissed at us for denouncing them.

    Should we have expected anything else? That's why you stay the ***** out of everyone's business.
  • gaoshan, on 04/20/2008, -5/+20They view Tibet as part of China. It's that simple. The relationship between the two goes back hundreds of years. Traditionally Tibet played the role of religious leader to China's role of patron. That is, Tibet was the Buddhist "heart" to China's powerful patron. As the Qing Dynasty weakened, Tibet became more and more autonomous. Finally, the British invaded Tibet in 1904 or so and got things stirred up politically. The Chinese saw increased western influence in an area they had controlled for centuries and so sent troops. This led to years of uncertain control wavering between the Chinese Amban (regional leader), Britain's local representative and, primarily, the Dalai Llama. In 1911 the Qing dynasty collapsed and the new Republic of China had it's hands full with creating a new government. At this time Tibet, led by the Dalai Llama made its first serious move for greater independence. The next (nearly) 40 years were tumultuous as the government in China was rocked by internal confusion and fighting and, most significantly, the invasion by Japan. During this time China never let go their claims to Tibet and Tibet never gained a true independence. The main issue between the two sides is that China has no reason to "free" a part of their territory that has never been "free" while Tibet wants the Dalai Llama back in Lhasa and in charge of affairs. Even the Dalai Llama does not ask for independence from China. Look it up. He understands the traditional relationship Tibet and China have had and that relationship is not, nor has it ever been, one between two nations.

    The Chinese are so pissed about this whole thing because they: 1. Don't like being told what to do by outsiders (seriously, you have no idea what a big deal it is to Chinese people to have foreigners preaching at them), 2. Can see that much of the protesting and criticism from the west is uninformed, one-sided, hypocritical and frankly pretty willfully ignorant.
  • Picer, on 04/20/2008, -9/+23"On Wednesday afternoon, as she sat in a cafe sipping a can of COCA-COLA, Ms. Zhu said she thought the boycott would be a success. “Tibet is our country’s territory. You have no right to interfere in our interior affairs,” she said, adding, “A boycott"

    The irony....
  • lazyguy, on 04/20/2008, -1/+15I don't even know what to believe.

    On one hand, yes, their media is pretty much propaganda... but honestly, the stuff we watch here isn't much better. I think the answer is somewhere in the middle of what both sides are saying and in that case, I would not be pleased about it... but I would not riot over it either.
  • dakong27, on 04/20/2008, -5/+19That's fine, go ahead and boycott the West. Then we shall be forced to outsource our manufacturing to India. Frankly, I'd rather give them our business than to a paranoid, xenophobic bunch with a Jupiter-sized chip on their shoulder who are only using the money to build up their army so they can forcibly repatriate its neighbors who in the misty, distant past, belonged to some Chinese dynasty or other. Indians are smart, speak English, have a vibrant democracy, and very tasty food as well as funky movies. And apart from Kashmir, they really don't have designs on their neighbors' land nor the intent to throw their weight around. I would rather have them be a world super power than China.
  • rz8472, on 04/20/2008, -0/+13They're Olympic Fries, not French Fries.
  • Zandarrr, on 04/20/2008, -2/+14Boycott everything and everyone!
  • inactive, on 09/17/2008, -0/+12for an easier way to determine the day of the week, I recommend you get a Calendar.
  • Cattywampus, on 04/20/2008, -0/+11Sure, but the dollar and U.S. real estate market are so weak, the Chinese might well lose money by selling their holdings.
    Europeans are now buying U.S. assets, because they are relatively cheap and are good long-term investments.
  • StaticThunder, on 04/20/2008, -4/+15Okay, if you're serious, then boycott our currency and stop selling us stuff.
  • Farik, on 04/20/2008, -13/+24So the economy could collapse? As much as the West does not like Chinese policies, we can't live (at least at the standard we are today) without them.
  • soccerbud, on 04/20/2008, -1/+12falung gung's pretty crazy man. One can pretty much call it the Chinese version of scientology.

    For example, one of my Chinese professor's mom is an active believe and practioner of falung gun, and she was recently diagnosed with cancer. My prof's mom refuses to undergo any kind of treatment and therapy b'c she believes, by practicing her falung gung stuff and believing in the exiled falung gung leader who has a multi-million dollar mansion in manhattan island, shew will be cured.

    how's that for you?
  • publiclurker, on 04/20/2008, -2/+12You're right, Whats the lives of a few foreigners compared to 1080P! What w weak excuse for a society we've become.
  • inactive, on 04/20/2008, -5/+15The Chinese have a "buy all of our ***** but we won't buy much of yours" approach to doing business. ***** 'em.
  • breezytrees, on 04/20/2008, -1/+11http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/photographer ...
  • SpectreFire, on 04/20/2008, -1/+11It's unbelievable. It's the bloody 21st century, we're suppose to be smarter than that. It's sickening how quick people are to hang one billion people.
  • hycalvinc, on 04/20/2008, -1/+10Im hong kong chinese, trust me . . . the modern chinese is far from the rest of the western world, and the modern chinese is only a small fraction of the population ( the damn rich ones) . You can better call them wannabes because they have so much money so that they can afford the western stuff. But since when does using and doing western activities makes u western ? It's the culture and behavior . . . and trust me . . that havent really changed much . ..
  • masgrada, on 04/20/2008, -3/+12In other news, china's 2.3 million MSN users are perplexed at new icons being automatically added to their online profiles.
  • execute85, on 04/20/2008, -1/+10I don't know about you, but most 1080p monitors are made in Korea, Japan and Taiwan.
  • vertigoblue, on 04/20/2008, -0/+8NOOOooooo! think of the LEDs!
    my luminescent little friends..
    *cries
  • an0nym0uz, on 04/20/2008, -5/+1390% of these people are buffoons, just like 90% of the non tibetan, free tibet crowd cant even point out tibet on the map, douchebags
  • synergye, on 04/20/2008, -9/+17HAPPY 4/20!
  • Hangly, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7And China joins the long list of countries boycotting France.
  • jmpeagle, on 04/20/2008, -1/+8you realize the confederates probably felt the same way as the colonials during those engagements? It's the exact same analogy. The Chinese feel they liberated Tibetans from oppressive religious feudalism and fell that their oppression is much better. That's how all governments who face a crises of civil war.

    Also, considering the Dalai Lama has never called for independence and is actually vocally against it....I wouldn't call this really a call for armed revolution. They just want to not have their culture systematically destroyed by the Han Chinese.
  • soccerbud, on 04/20/2008, -2/+9the majority of the Chinese people are protesting against french companies and french made goods (not all western companies and goods) e.g. carrefour, b'c various pro Tibetan protestors tried to wretch the torch (forcefully) from a handicapped, Chinese paralympian.

    first hand accounts of what happened:

    "At that time, the anti-China protestors saw a weak and handicapped girl holding the torch, and they charged madly. Some of them lunged at the torch in Jin Jing's hand. ... as we stopped, more protestors came up to try to take away the torch. Wang Wei cried out in French: "Where are the police!?" We tried to stop again and wait for the second leg torch bearer, but three or four demonstrators rushed at us. One man grabbed the torch. Jin Jing screamed and held on to the torch for dear life. Wang Wei and Xu Jing moved up to help. At that moment, I could not care less and I punched that man in the face and the head. The first man retreated. Then another man came and threw himself on Jin Jing. He grabbed her hair with one hand and then tried to seize the torch with the other hand. Wang Wei tried to drag the wheelchair away even as Jin Jing clung on to the torch. I was going berserk and I kicked and punched the man to make him stop. A young woman behind him said in Chinese; "You must not hit people." I saw the yellow flag in her hand and I screamed: "You people are the ones who are hitting people ...

    We proceeded for several hundred meters. We were highly alert and we were aware of many Chinese compatriots waving national flags and chanting 'Chine, Beijing!' ... I thought about relaxing myself so that I can offer a reassuring smile ... Before I even finished thinking, something hit us. The protestors were throwing rocks at us."

    another account of a student present at the scene:

    "I was standing in the Seine riverside section outside the Eiffel Tower. The torch bearer was a young paralympic girl on a wheelchair accompanied by one man and one woman. Every five seconds, someone tried to seize the torch. It was hard to move forward. To protect the girl, the man and the woman attempted to steer the wheelchair in between two parked cars. She was right in front of me. Suddenly, a thug jumped in and tried to snatch the torch ... The thug pulled her shoulder back and hit her ... Whatever happen to minimal humanitarianism? In political movements, will there always be thugs committing violence in the name of democracy and freedom?"

    pictures of the incident:

    http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20080410_03.jpg
    http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20080410_06.jpg
    http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20080410_07.jpg
  • badqat, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7Not to mention many are owned by Vietnamese...
  • Ender008, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7I wouldn't say that watching desperate housewives is catching up...
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