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- CandySnatch, on 10/12/2007, -4/+69Please digg this up. I've had a look at Reuters, BBC and Sky News and it apparently isn't "newsworthy" enough to make their front pages... Why? This deserves attention. The governing regime of the world's most rapidly developing economy cannot be allowed to think they can behave like this and get away with it. If this was coalition forces shooting civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan, the media would all over it....
- siszam, on 10/12/2007, -8/+64There is no end to evil in this world.
- mousy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+57He's speechless because he actually has a heart.
- lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -6/+44"I've had a look at Reuters, BBC and Sky News and it apparently isn't "newsworthy" enough to make their front pages... Why? This deserves attention. The governing regime of the world's most rapidly developing economy cannot be allowed to think they can behave like this and get away with it. If this was coalition forces shooting civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan, the media would all over it...."
-CandySnatch - l0th, on 10/12/2007, -11/+46I wish you were speechless too.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36I think what he means is that this shouldn't surprise people... this sort of thing happens a lot in China. Sad though it is.
- gronne, on 10/12/2007, -4/+35Keep that image in your head the next time you hear about another American business moving their operations to China.
The best vote you have comes from your wallet! - gaoshan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+28You still shouldn't hate China. Hating them is no more reasonable than hating Americans because you despise the war in Iraq. They do some bad stuff. So do we. It shouldn't be excused, it shouldn't be weighed against what we do or don't do (like, is our past or present evil behavior better than theirs) and it shouldn't apply to an entire country. If you want to be "right" or on the side of good you cannot ignore reason... especially when you are angry.
- atdigg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24That's exactly what bothers me, why is this not newsworthy enough to be shown? I'm sure not all the people know what ***** goes around over there... Let me see maybe it's because of US deal with China regarding North Korea. Because of that imbecile dictator in North Korea, so called civilized countries are selling out their principles to make deals with China... what a shame.
- zylvester, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22For insight on how the Orwellian CCP official news agency's work and what the brainwashed Chinese masses get feed on a daily bases.
"Tibetans shot 'in self-defence'
China has confirmed that its troops opened fire on a group of Tibetans trying to cross into Nepal, leaving one of them dead.
The official Xinhua news agency quoted an official as saying the border guards fired in self-defence." - crawfishsoul, on 10/12/2007, -5/+20Starting today I am going to ban every one of you dupe calling trolls. I'm done modding you down.
- lordthor, on 10/12/2007, -19/+33God, I ***** hate China... I had some pity for their people until I heard about them beating 50,000 dogs to death with sticks cause some girl died of rabies.
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16captaineuphoria, how is "there's a war on" an excuse?
We started the war, we invaded Iraq, and we were responsible for the well-being of the Iraqis once we commited to "liberating" them.
Whether you go with the 30-40,000 estimate from the White House, or the approx. 600,000 estimate from independent sources, the fact remains that the majority are civilian deaths, not soldiers in combat situations.
I'm not talking politics here, I'm talking civilian lives. Anyone who tries to let the Chinese off the hook because we're killing Iraqis, or who wants to let us off the hook because "it's a war" is wrong. There's no good way to kill civilians, period. - Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18WTF are you talking about? This is separation of church and state taken to the extreme, not a state religion being enforced. China, being a Communist country, is completely atheist. Religions aren't allowed. Do a simple google search on the number of political prisoners arrested in China for selling Bibles or executed for running a church.
- Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15@lordthor: How many dogs do we put to death every year? Furthermore, I would like the sources on that statement. Lastly, don't forget there was a time when Europeans and Americans were less humanitarian than they are now. Kill 50,000 dogs is still nothing when compared to killing 6 million Jews and 12 million Russians. Should we hate the Germans? How about the French and the English with their imperialism that left behind a ravage continent called Africa? What about little old Belgium and their king Leopold whose atrocities resulted in millions of deaths and IIRC inspired "Heart of Darkness"?
I'm not trying to make excuses for China's poor behavior but I wonder if hating is the right thing to do.
@hammydude: It's not new age barbarianism. It's old age barbarianism that has gone away. - BassCadet, on 10/12/2007, -9/+20People hate China for the manner in which civil liberties, privacy, and free speech are disgregarded there...and yet on Digg if you express your disgust of China you are seen as a "racist".
I'm tired of the pro-PRC element on Digg. - Braxo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+22Did we kill at 655,000? Or did suicide bombers?
- nmap, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12There is coverage on the bbc website at the moment (video feed as well).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6045566.stm - MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14This is *****. I know many Tibetan immigrants and they are the most peaceful people you could ever meet. The horrors they described has left a mark on my life, and this video is just one instance of Chinese communist brutality against Tibet.
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Half of you guys are stupid. We don't hate the Chinese, we hate the Chinese government (and as a result, China). They deserve to be hated. They do horrible things. If you think our government does horrible things, you can hate them to. You don't hate all Americans, just the American government.
- chaimpot0k, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13***** China, Free Tibet
- Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14The report that says 600,000+ Iraqis have died isn't based on any casualty counts: they just interviewed people and then estimated how many people might have died in relation to any pattern or circumstances those people had reported. It's complete ***** and was laughed at by every single independent organization that's been tallying casualties since the war began.
- chokeyou, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Another in a long series of Chinese government human rights violations. Not surprising, but disgusting.
- gaoshan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Knowing a bit about how things work in China, I would bet the Chinese attempted to warn the Tibetans off from trying to cross the border illegally (somewhere earlier in the Tibetans trek) prior to opening fire and that is why they were right there at the border when they were crossing. Doesn't excuse the shooting in ANY way at all. The fault is 100% with the Chinese in this case, it's just that the Chinese view of violating government authority is pretty severe.
- Ark7, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Welcom, comrades, to our Communist paradise. Wait, over 100 million dead since inception? What are you talking about?
- wankey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11LOL. Just because you saw a youtube video, you're willing to change suppliers in millions of dollars?
Do you know what India does to the Kashmir Region in Pakistan? What a joke.
Hold on, let me find you a video of people dying in Kashmir so you can change supplier to Malaysia. Oh wait! I'll find another video on how ***** the labour force in Malaysia.
What are you going to do now? Change suppliers on a daily basis?
Pathetic on how a small video can change people, yet the big problem nobody sees. - richiestang78, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Shocking but really not surprising, thats the world, we really suck as a species dont we. And stop with the US Iraqi death stuff its not the same. You can go back to the first modern wars and innocent people die thats war. Peopel think jsut cause there are laser guided bombs, and gps that war somehow is this thing where only tanks and bunkers get blown up on a little tv screen.
- layfield02, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9this is unacceptable!
- gardnert1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The Free Tibet group has a lot more information on attrocities FAR worse than this; things you wish you'd never heard about.
http://www.freetibet.org/ - InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18The deal with China is twofold: First, the US is addicted to cheap Chinese crap flooding our markets (*cough* Wal*Mart *cough*). Secondly, because the US is running record federal deficits year after year now, we are now dependent on China to loan us money to keep us from going bankrupt. China is our biggest creditor.
BTW: To those who would suggest that massive federal deficits don't matter, think again. China now has the US by the economic balls. - Mokey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9That's some ***** up ***** right there.
- Kozy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7It actually IS on the BBC front page under video and audio news, not particularly prominent but it is there in both international and UK versions. I watched the video before seeing it on Digg by noticing it on the BBC page.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8You wouldn't be saying that if it was your family that was shot and killed. You're a ***** disgrace to the human race.
- sfacets, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8You attack Iraq. Reason? Crazy Dictator.
You Impose sanctions on Cuba. Reason? Cazy Dictator
You invade Afghanistan. Reason? Crazy Government.
China? You trade with it. Difference? None. Hypocracy? 100% - gareth805, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8But hey keep buying those iPods that are built in China...
- InetRoadkill, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Seperation of church and state is indeed being violated in China, even though they are supposedly atheist. By adopting an official state religious policy of atheism, China's govt has taken a religious stance.
Seperation of church and state means that govt neither promotes nor denies the right to exercise one's religion or the right to have no religion at all. It remains neutral either way on the subject. That is definitely not the case in China which continues to persecute its citizens for their religious practices. - bishsd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Ladies and Gentleman. I give you your 2008 Olympic Host Nation.
Brought to you by Coca-Cola, McDonalds, Budweiser, Ford... - gaoshan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"...now real chinese faces were shown. All the cameras were far away" Sadly, there are photos of the Chinese soldiers in the climber's camp (with some Tibetan children they caught, in tow). I would say this is unfortunately quite real. Look here to see a photo: http://www.explorersweb.com/sitemedia/images/everest/20061011xnangpala2.jpg
"Just chop off the head..." They shake them to death because the amount of blood from cutting off the chicken's head can make things messy. They aren't torturing them, jeez.
"...it boils to death" Kind of like crabs and lobsters, eh? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8China is a repressive and thoroughly corrupt communist dictatorship. It's got about half a million dissidents in forced labor camps, and has a long history of violent repression of domestic opposition.
Is it somehow surprising that they shoot dissidents trying to flee the country? - bashar129, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"They may have us by the balls, but we have them by the throat.
If we don't buy their *****, they die too."
Have fun trying to stop a majority of the US populace from shopping at Wal-Mart. - ez12a, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@ qaoshan:
yes, it is true that there are "christian" churches in China. however, they are EXTREMELY censored by the Chinese government. They are limited in what they can preach.
which is why there are underground churches. - Soniti, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12They may have us by the balls, but we have them by the throat.
If we don't buy their *****, they die too.
~Soniti - Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@ LordThor:
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"I've had a look at Reuters, BBC and Sky News and it apparently isn't "newsworthy" enough to make their front pages... Why? This deserves attention. The governing regime of the world's most rapidly developing economy cannot be allowed to think they can behave like this and get away with it. If this was coalition forces shooting civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan, the media would all over it...."
-CandySnatch
Sadly, we're a race of cowards. China holds a bunch of our debt, we like cheap stuff, and they have a huge army. War crimes and violations of human dignity are often only proscecuted when the violator is weak and defeated. We let countries like China get away with such things because we prefer our cheap iPods over Tibetans. Plus it's far away. We might all be expressing our outrage right now but which one of us is actually going to take a step towards fighting it? Of those people who express their outrage, I bet less than 1% of them would do anything other than commenting about it on digg.com. - ryogahibiki, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Taipei Times journalist:
"As long as the world is content to make money in China and ignore its human rights violations and the commission of genocide, China will thumb its nose at the UN. But appeasement is dangerous. The power of knowing they can simply destroy a people while the world checks its wallet will only encourage the Chinese Communists to pursue other plans of aggression. Who will speak out against this genocide?"
The day before Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, demanding the mass extermination of the Jewish inhabitants there, he explained away his actions to his officers by saying with a laugh, "Who still talks nowadays of the extermination of the Armenians?"
Apparently, we still do. One week ago a Tibetan nun was shot in her back as the world watched. No more excuses, China. There's only one thing that will justify the blood on Nangpa La: Give Tibet back to its people. - Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The Chinese population don't fall for this crap but they're apathetic, just like many people around the world. You think this *****'s ***** up? How about Darfur? We KNOW people are being massacred, raped, and starving to death. How many Americans do you think are rising up to do something about this? You know what goes around in our Congress? Video game legislations and more pork.
People are inherently self-centered. Darfur and Tibet are far away places. While bother when you have it so good at home? - nmap, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4you didn't look very hard on the bbc, here's a link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6045566.stm - AnonymousFan9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I'm no expert on Buddhism, but maybe they're walking because they are almost over a hill and they don't want to be shot?
Either way, their calmness is admirable in such an unfair situation. - robotexplorer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5we'd rather stay away from attacking a insane military power like china, until we are ready to declare the end of the world.
100% hypocracy
100% still in existance - gwolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Is this some extreme border control at work? That’s pretty harsh, but I am pretty sure that a certain kind of American along our southern border wouldn’t have a problem with this. Shame the Chinese government isn’t willing to find a way to allow the Dali Lama to come and visit.
I bet this is a scare tactic to try and get them to renounce; how’s that for terrorism. Otherwise the border guards might have killed them all, but then there wouldn’t be anyone to go back and tell the tale. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5And Cuba will be our Taiwan, right? :]
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