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- jrm125, on 11/10/2009, -2/+44cheap production, substandard quality control, inferior manufacturing methods, inexpensive material, lack of controls/standards
- weirdralph, on 11/09/2009, -2/+32FTA: "We did not find levels of chemicals that suggested an imminent health hazard," said David Krause, state toxicologist for the Florida Department of Health. He said the levels were consistent with the reported symptoms of eye irritation, however.
So at the very least, it stinks and it's an eye irritant. - JoeParanoid, on 11/09/2009, -1/+31Not what you'd want in your home in any event.
- getoffmybridge, on 11/10/2009, -2/+24Why is it that so many Chinese imports have some detrimental problem?
- n8o8, on 11/10/2009, -4/+18I do not buy fish from China, even though its basically all that Wal-Marts and other stores sell. I find US fish or nothing at all. If this is their drywall, think about their industrial runoff that gets into fish tissue!
- magamiako, on 11/10/2009, -1/+14Tying the first two replies together--it's cheaper to produce in China than it is here because we have all sorts of things like pesky regulations on hiring, quality control, and products. It isn't cheap to make it here, so it isn't.
- neutron7, on 11/10/2009, -1/+13Who cares if a few people get sick or die, its the price of doing business. wont anyone think of the shareholders?
- treehugger87, on 11/10/2009, -5/+16They hate us and want us all dead
- dienaked, on 11/10/2009, -1/+11The sulfur will help keep mold from growing on the drywall.
It's a bonus! - hokie47, on 11/10/2009, -2/+10Maybe not dangerous, but try selling your home/condo if you have it. You are basically *****. People here in Florida are just walking away from their homes with Chinese drywall. It is almost impossible to get your money back because the contractor is long gone/bankrup. You are left holding the bag on a now very devalued home/condo.
- wonderchemist, on 11/10/2009, -3/+10What do you expect, the US inspects less then 1% of the goods that cross our borders.
- DarkBlueAnt, on 11/10/2009, -1/+8Very uninformative... here's the summery:
"It's probably not dangerous, but we're going to stop imports anyway. We're going to keep testing." - dstz, on 11/10/2009, -2/+8Because western resellers ask them to unreasonably cut cost. A lot of high end products (Apple for one) are made in China with good quality standards.
If you ever have to deal with Chinese suppliers, you will discover that -exept for small regional, unreliable, easy to figure out, factories- they will provide you the quality control you want to pay for, nothing more, nothing less. - goldenechos, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6The article says the higher levels of formaldehyde are very common in new houses. This is because we build with toxic materials. The glues, plastics, vinyls, drywalls we use today are highly toxic.
In general, our world is a carcinogen. - Marmot, on 11/10/2009, -0/+6Not only does it matter if you have it -- it's even a problem if other homes in your neighborhood have it. Construction crews tend to mix and match drywall from different suppliers when they build houses -- it's all based on what's available at the moment. One of the homes in our old neighborhood had drywall from seven different countries (including China).
If you try to sell your home in that neighborhood, how will you assure a buyer that your home doesn't have Chinese drywall? Did you tear into every wall to check? You might have Chinese drywall in one room... or maybe the entire house, or there might be none at all. How can you be sure, especially since the house down the street definitely *does* have it, and it was built the same time as yours was?
People aren't just afraid of the Chinese drywall. They're also afraid of the *risk* they may be buying a home with it. - publiclurker, on 11/10/2009, -1/+6Funny, I want to buy quality stuff.
- tgc1, on 11/10/2009, -0/+5Yeah let's totally destroy whatever manufacturing we have left domestically. I mean DRYWALL. What the *****? Can't we just god damned well have a few industries left in North America? Do we need to outsource and offshore every god damned thing?!
- duckylam, on 11/10/2009, -1/+6You guys do know that many of the Chinese products that were shipped to the US were manufactured on behalf of non-Chinese companies right? Stuff like the leaded toys contain lead because an American toy company asked the Chinese manufacturer to produce toys at a stupidly low price point, knowing that the cheapest materials are also dangerous materials. Then when the ***** hits the fan, everyone blames the China.
- DextramPennae, on 11/10/2009, -2/+6Because there is no way for you to hold the producer accountable. Try suing them.
- MattB123, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4At least it doesn't sound hard to tell if you home has this stuff.
- WiseGuy1020, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3Just a true free market. If a company in China puts lead into a food product and lots of people die, people will stop buying their products and the company will go under. The market will correct itself with the "invisible hand." See if we just got rid of all gobberment regulation everything would be okay.
Don't worry about all those people that died. Thats just a cost of doing business. - anchor, on 11/10/2009, -2/+5why does anyone even buy products from China?
Time was, made in China meant you were getting the worst quality product, for the cheapest price. For example, If your socket wrench said, "Made in China" you knew it was gonna break. It was just a matter of time.
I also remember a time when "Made in America" wasn't just a slogan, but a way of knowing you were getting a quality product... - taibo, on 11/10/2009, -0/+3You expect people to form opinions based on facts? Especially Diggers?
- PacketScan, on 11/10/2009, -5/+8Ok what i get that that article is Chinese drywall is safe.. But we aren't going to allow it into the country? Why don't we stop the ***** and tell the truth.
- nurbsenvi, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4Message to China:
Please execute the domestic population control domestically
not internationally. - mattb5, on 11/10/2009, -1/+4It's a feature
- ldkronos, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3As I read all of the posts above, I have to ask....what the hell is wrong with all of you and your "glass half empty" attitudes? Why can't you see the positive side of things? We finally have a Chinese product on our hands that has been certified by the EPA and CDC to not kill you. Isn't that a good thing?
- pvnrt, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Best comment so far.
- allisonV12, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Kinda funny
Cheaper Chinese drywall....America cant even manufacture drywall,
Drywall is heavy and just to ship it from China to America must add-on a few pennies.
The greedy bastards were building $75,000 assembly line built homes,then turning around and selling the same junk for over $400,000 - publiclurker, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2It's a cheap way of disposing hazardous materials.
- fatbastard12, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2hokie47 please state your source.
Many people in florida are walking away form their homes, but a vast majority have nothing to do with drywall. They are upside down in a mortgage (by over 50% in some cases!) and sadly it makes financial sense for some people to do so. - JackOpfor, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3like computers, LCD monitors and IPods, Cellphones, the list goes on and on
- taibo, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2If you think so, how about you buy yourself a drywall manufacturing plant? See how you feel after you've run a couple hundred thousand dollars into the ground.
- weister42, on 11/10/2009, -0/+2Failing to quality-check an imported product before putting them on the market is like buying eggs without checking to see if they're broken.
- Marmot, on 11/10/2009, -1/+3We didn't know we had it until we got a letter from the HOA warning that another home in the neighborhood had it. There was definitely a mild odor, but one that we just put off to the smell of a new house / fresh paint / etc. With most cases, it's barely noticeable.
It wasn't until we pulled off a couple of wallplates that we saw the tell-tale blackened copper ground wires. Also, if you put your nose right up to the wallplate, you could smell the faintest whiff of sulphur, similar to that of a freshly lit match. We did notice that silver jewelry seemed to tarnish very quickly, but didn't think anything of it until we put 2 + 2 together.
We did meet the person who bought our old home (an investor). As soon as he walked in the door, he sniffed a bit and commented... "Oh... you have Chinese Drywall. I can smell it!". - jrm125, on 11/10/2009, -3/+4I'm less concerned with the actual levels and more with it being on parity with what we already consider to be safe. Whether or not it is actually an imminent health hazard, if it's lower quality than we're used to and deem safe...it's not acceptable.
- minorthreat, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1exactly
- Ascus, on 11/10/2009, -3/+4This is the Chinese flexing there economic muscles. Just like when the forced Mattel to appologize for making too much fuss about lead in the Chinese made toys. If you have Chinese drywall, your insurance company will drop you, it will not cover damages or drywall replacement since it was a (Manufacturing defect).
This is just the start of influence. - christoast, on 11/10/2009, -2/+3Do they just add poison to everything for fun? Everything from toothpaste to baby food to drywall? Who poisons drywall? Honestly. I guess captain planet better learn mandarin.
- neoq36, on 11/10/2009, -1/+2I bet this is done on purpose. Or the Chinese really aren't as smart as we think, because their chemistry and food health seems to suck.
- eleraama, on 11/15/2009, -0/+1"In China, all companies are government owned and the "owner" gets a small slice of net profits...."
That is flat-out false. - nepidae, on 11/10/2009, -1/+2You are forgetting the massive amount of corruption in china though.
- Fleagleman, on 11/10/2009, -2/+3Chinese Drywall?
Isn't that the latest Guns n' Roses album? - pvnrt, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1yeah, watch out for those ipods. they'll suck the soul out of you.
- misscynical, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Lol share holders!!!!
- Buckwyld, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1Everyday, I am dying a little. I blame the drywall.
- spworm, on 11/10/2009, -0/+1...except if you're buying a car.
- nepidae, on 11/10/2009, -1/+1except they do worse to their own people.
- DextramPennae, on 11/10/2009, -2/+2You can't hold the Chinese drywall manufacturers accountable. Not going to happen.
So, what you need to do is get in touch with your Federal representatives and make them hold the Chinese Gov't accountable. Then, it is up to China to do something about the manufacturers. That is the way diplomacy is supposed to work, and that is one of the primary functions of the Federal Gov't.
But the Feds will probably tell you to go pound sand, like they have with their other responsibility, border control. - theNazz, on 11/10/2009, -1/+1http://digg.com/business_finance/Chinese_Drywall_N ...
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