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- jonesin, on 10/12/2007, -11/+122We don't have factories to make anything in the US anymore. China has us by the balls.
- chokeyou, on 10/12/2007, -9/+87Out of all the countries in the world, America makes me extremely nervous.
- Kanna, on 10/12/2007, -11/+72Dear America,
Don't make us come over there.
Sincerely,
China - kooft, on 10/12/2007, -4/+50And once the US economy takes a hit, and the US position remains unchanged, China will then cash in all the T-Bills they have in one transaction. The US being in a fresh recession will have to either pay up or default, and a default would probably trigger a domino effect of countries abandoning the dollar.
Sure, that's just a theoretical outcome, but to say that China doesn't have economic weaponry is very shortsighted. - VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+43Jim, that wont work.. :(
Clinton attempted to strong arm the Chinese into taking more aggresive actions towards software pirates. About a week later he apologized to the Chinese.
Why do you ask? It's quite simple, they told him if he imposes any embargoes on them than we will have to pull all our companies out of there now.
China has more power than you realize.. :/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+42> Question: Out of the last 50 items you purchased, how many were made in China?
...all of them (except, perhaps, food).
Want to know something scary? Go find out who controls almost the world's entire production of neodymium (you know... that stuff responsible for moving the read-write head on your disk drive around to the right spot). - Detritus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32You really don't understand who the super power in this conflict is, Jim.
All of the big box stores would be out of business in a week. Following them closely would be clothing stores. And then all of our own manufacturing plants over there would have a world of ***** to deal with. China has us quite firmly by the balls. We've been dangling them praying they'd hold on tight and pull us out of a lot of financial jams recently... now we just have to sit down, smile and hope they don't feel like keeping their pimp hand strong. - JohnnyZito, on 10/12/2007, -2/+28Looks like I'm not the only one who thinks the troop build up is preamble to an Iran Invasion.
- Alfdog, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25Just another reason to get off of oil dependency, China is just as sensitive to it as the west is.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Thanks kooft. Most people just don't realize how much we depend on Chine to support the dollar, keep interest rates low, and hold inflation in check. They have essentially been our own 1.2 billion person strong slave labor force. Anything that disrupts that relationship would hurt both nations. One could argue that the current financial/political situation defies gravity and must fall eventually. However, the notion that we could "just stop buying their stuff and teach them a lesson" is absurd.
- knaps, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21You're going to make a splendid diplomat someday.
Maybe instead of coming onto a website and spewing your uninformed opinion, you could spend that valuable time reflecting on the ramifications of any government launching a nuclear strike on anything. - ichbinladen, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20The US makes me nervous and I live in Texas! I'm supposed to be gung ho and *****.
- Lamtd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22Yeah I guess it's hard for americans to swallow the fact that they're not the only superpower in the world... I think that China is not affraid one bit of the US, like it or not.
- kent1146, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Wouldn't surprise me. If I was Iran, I would also be thinking "Hey, China... I think the US is eye'ing me... come protect me! We both saw how Bush fsck'ed up Iraq... want some oil?"
- trer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I'm tired of all these dumbass diggers whose response is, "let's just nuke them all and get it over with"
Are you people devoid of any foresight? Any country that launches a nuclear weapon would bring upon global devestation that history has never seen. Do you think that it's as simple as us lobbing over some ICBMs and then you can go back to your room and unpause "Gears of War"?
If something like that ever happened, you can forget about video games, the internet, porn, monday night football, reality tv, hummers, SUVs, malls, strip clubs, microwave dinners etc. etc. Prepare for starvation, death, homelessness, disease and everything else in between.
This "instant-gratification" mindset has really created a society full of idiots. - thegreyfox, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Doesn't China out number us 100 to 1 or something like that
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Bwahaha. Amen to that choke. We not only threaten other countries, we invade them.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+25Go China!
- evil-doer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14israel has been pushing the us to attack iran and/or syria HARD for the past year or two. this here is the problem. both china AND russia have many deals with iran and any attacking them would have very serious consequences. maybe even world war three. you can go back to loving israel now.
- cybermort, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17all of them.. I even had Chinese for lunch today
- VolatileWhimsy, on 10/12/2007, -20/+32Out of all the countries in the world, China makes me exteremely nervous.
- h3smith, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Capitalism bringing about peace and preventing war, I love it.
- Comatose51, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@bdbr: "Go China"? Be careful what you wish for."
It's ironic that you use a Chinese proverb to warn us about China. Brilliant! - gronne, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19I'd be happy to make my own moccasin's out of roadkill and ride a bicycle in the snow if it meant we could tell both China and the Middle East to ***** off.
- aamer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14I don't like the stance the US (read: Bush administration) is taking on Iran, but "Go China" is hardly the better attitude as far as I'm concerned. China has one of the worst rights records -- and by that I mean all kinds of rights: animal, human, religious, .
- donnydarko319, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Nuke China, the nation with several hundred nuclear warheads of their own?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutually_Assured_Destruction
You should do some boning up on military doctrine. - m3mn0n, on 10/12/2007, -12/+22im in ur diplomacyz screwin wit ur relashunz
- Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I agree... Reverse this and have China be the country invader on questionable evidence, have China step into other countries business relations... That would be pretty scary, right? I think sometimes people need to look at all this through the eyes of another country. This is why Bush is so impopular internationally -- many in the world are looking at the US like this all the time.
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Can't blame them... China wants cheap oil too. They have a major strategic interest in seeing Iran stay independent of the US. From the Chinese standpoint the US is buying off, or invading, the other oil rich countries in the region. They need to make a play for the resources they need in the future.
- lukas88, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Submitter, maybe you shouldn't put the words "back off" in quotes unless they were actually said, it implies more aggressiveness than was intended.
- Dibbz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11What can you expect? Iran produces the oil and gas, and China wants it. America either wants control of it or at least stop Iran from having any of it. Of course China is not going to be happy about this.
- Pile, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Don't forget... China wouldn't have over-extended its military running around in the arabian desert to the point where it was no longer capable of defending itself against anything larger than a pre-industrial third-world country.
- pinoyboy82, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12worst. idea. evar.
- NYCMoney, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11there was an article on digg yesterday estimating the total cost of the war in Iraq. The estimate is approximately $360 billion. It was stated that with that kind of money, everyone in the United States can get free gas for up to one year or hundreds of public schools can be built..in every state. It will be interesting to see in fifty years what textbooks will describe Bush's tenure as president was.
- geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12It's too late to do that, they export just as much to Europe. Stopping imports from China would make their GDP growth go from 10% to 8%, otherwise they'll be just fine.
- Pile, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15The worst part about all of this is the fact that the president of the U.S. is a nutty, fundamentalist christian who honestly expects jesus to show up any day now, so he really doesn't care about WWIII .. he's been told the more conflict in the middle east, the more likely jeebus is coming and he's excited about this....
Now congress hasn't had any balls for the last 6 years, and the newly-elected democrats demonstrated they don't have any balls either because they're not starting impeachment proceedings.... does this crazy president have to invade Iran before our elected leaders put him on a leash? After watching the last speech he gave, I guess the answer is yes... he hasn't ***** the country up and our international relations bad enough yet... so congress is going to sit there and watch him make things even worse...
Someone tell me this is a dream... no nation of elected officials can be this incompetent can they? No media can be so corrupt as to ignore the implications of what's going down can they? - thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10It's a vicious circle. China has a stronghold on us but they also need us to buy the products that they produce. We feed off each other. China economy is indeed growing quickly, but they rely heavily on exporting their products to places like the United States.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7China doesn't want us "meddling" because they want business as usual with Iran, just like Russia. They don't care if Iran develops nuclear weapons.
- sofakinglazy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8no, US did not kick britain's ass, we barely won the war, even with French helping us. Japan was able to invade China only after China was severely weakened from the civil war between the nationalist government (KMT, current Taiwan) and the communist government (Chairman Mao, current China). Japan did not kick China's ass, SEVERAL time.
Maybe you should repeat your history class before telling others to take it. - MOGua, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@BassCadet
"Can the USA exist without China trade? Easily."
You make it sound so easy.
Say I am a business man who owns a couple of plants in China that utilize resources readily available in those Chinese provinces. Do you think I can simply air lift my factories to Vietnam over night and start pumping out products there? This isn't StarCraft, you know?
Sure there are lots of countries "ready" with cheap labor but why did everyone choose China in the first place? Maybe it had something to do with its land size? natural resources? population?
Why don't you ask the mac fanboys to wait an extra year or two so that their iPhones can be made in some place other than China for twice the cost? Not so easy now is it? - otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13China holds the most U.S. currency in the world (aside from U.S.). China has an extremely powerful economy that is growing. China has an extremely powerful military.
If China were to exchange the U.S. currency it is currently holding for Gold or Euros, it would be very beneficial for them. The dollar is in decline - China knows that.
China needs the U.S., but the U.S. needs China more. If China says "No" then the U.S. must comply. - bdbr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Will China come running when some third-world country is devastated by tsunamis, volcanoes, or mudslides? Don't bet on it. America does a lot more than the Iraq war.
"Go China"? Be careful what you wish for. - chrisu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Its amazing how everyone has gone quiet about North Korea's nukes now they've effectively gone "yes look we have nukes, what you going to do about it?".
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+16I mean it's about time that we stop becoming an Empire and feeling that we can go anywhere and do anything worldwide.
It's about time that a nation says "Back off" to us.
So, Go China! - aliguana, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Dear Whitehouse Aids,
why is a suburb of San Francisco threatening us?
GWB - DeadPenguin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Step 1: Head to Mininova to search for learning Chinease software.
Step 2: Starting my savings account for that bunker I'm thinking I am going to need sooner than later.
- masgrada, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@arunforce
How the hell could some rednecks with pistols defend us? - compucomp2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Just because you Americans and Euros hate Iran, doesn't mean everyone has to hate Iran. Just because you like to fabricate crap about how Iran has nuclear weapons, doesn't mean everyone has to believe it.
For you morons who want to fight a war with us... we fought off the Japanese back in the day when we were ridiculously poorly equipped and now we will do a much better job against the Americans.
And no, the government is not in danger of falling. Economic progress (from selling ***** to you guys, go figure) is keeping the people generally happy. Human rights are overrated, no one actually cares about what they can say as long as they have money. Look at HK, there is no pro-democracy crap out of there anymore, because their economy is awesome with the nice incentives we've fed them. As long as we can provide for the people and keep the economy prosperous, there is no way the government falls, no matter what you naive Americans like to think about how much people love "democracy" and "freedom". Hm.... let's ask the Palestinian people about that... they elected Hamas and now according to the Americans their government is full of terrorists, and they must be starved out. Very consistent thinking there. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Out of all the ***** in the world, George Bush makes me extremely nervous.
- thatsmyaibo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10@artofwar
You do know Taiwan and China have major tensions between them right? To say a product made in Taiwan is a Chinese product couldn't be more wrong. -
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