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- christoast, on 04/04/2009, -0/+14We need more maps from the Iraq and such as.
- inactive, on 04/04/2009, -1/+13It must suck to not care about cheating and honesty.
- daboz912, on 04/04/2009, -2/+13This behavior is not limited to China; it happens in the US as well.
A teacher friend relayed a story that when she caught a student cheating, she called a parent-teacher conference. The mother huffed in the door, and when told that her daughter had cheated on a test, she said: "yeah, so?".
One last thing, the Chinese actually publicly punish people who cheat, evidently not so in this country. - inactive, on 04/04/2009, -0/+9Uhh no. Degrees and licensing keeps everyday morons from designing stuff that ends up killing people.
- ViperX116, on 04/04/2009, -0/+8"On that occasion one state-run newspaper reminded cheats that in years gone by they would have been put to death. "
They got off lucky. - dmbchris, on 04/04/2009, -0/+7Am I the only one that thinks you go way off topic? Licensing is a great way for me to know my dentist knows what teeth are, without having to do my own background check. Sometimes "the man" really doesn't have it in for you.
- alahao, on 04/04/2009, -3/+10屌!
- se1zure, on 04/04/2009, -0/+6Dead wrong. It was college entrance exams, meaning that by cheating they harmed every other test taker (the tests are scaled based on the performance of your peers in most of these exams). This is detrimental to the entire education system and jeopardizes the integrity of the tests as a whole if they just let it slide and fail him.
Sure jail is a bit serious, but I think a $1000 fine and not being allowed to retake the test is fair enough. - maximilen, on 04/04/2009, -6/+11Must be some damn hard tests... But maybe we need tests like that here too though.
- TigerStar337, on 04/04/2009, -1/+6China test are hard. Check out this math test: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/65893 ...
- Zique, on 04/04/2009, -0/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diu_(Cantonese)
- tim04, on 04/04/2009, -0/+4kids don't have as much say in these matters as parents in China, so punishing the parents is definitely the way to go
- tim04, on 04/04/2009, -0/+3It doesn't work that way in China. You are definitely worse off
- Shazbuckle, on 04/04/2009, -0/+3In Ireland if you are caught cheating on the leaving cert (sort of like a university entrance exam) you get banned for 2 years or something from taking it again.
And you need points from the leaving cert to get into any univeristy.
A risk NOT worth taking, considering you study for 3 years for the leaving cert - smartnose, on 04/04/2009, -0/+3The exam papers are national top secret before the test day. Best teachers in the country will be invited to make the test papers, and questions will be randomly selected from them. You'll get 10 years in prison for compromising it . Imaging coordinating such a test on the same day, same time for China without leaking any information. Everyone taking the test papers has to sign their name and check the package to make sure it's perfectly sealed.
During the test, students are switched between competitive schools to take the test. So the supervisors will watch your ass without blinking!
After that, the grading process is a highly classified work. My aunt was invited as a grader for 10 years, and every 10 days for the year she literally disappeared. She'll stay in a government organized hotel for 10 days with absolutely no communication with the outside. The names on the test papers are covered until grading is finished.
This test is so important to Chinese students. You screw it, you screw your life.
The applications in China is also very different. You're only allowed to choose 6 schools. So best universities will get hundreds of thousands of applications! You have to be 1 in a thousand if not 10 thousand to get into a good university! - orsinoduke, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2from the story, it seems the children did not get jailed. They just failed the exam. Those adults, who helped the cheating, got the punishment. ...
- brim4brim, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2Except anyone can do up a fake cert these days.
Licensing is one thing but degree's are necessary but it might be a good idea to not just believe the piece of paper he/she shows you. - encrypter, on 04/04/2009, -0/+2In my best Chris Tucker impersonation ``Translate!``
- ToiletSeat, on 04/04/2009, -1/+3Let's ship Obama's tax cheats to China.
- kitipan, on 04/04/2009, -3/+4bad example, it happens everywhere.
- Shazbuckle, on 04/04/2009, -1/+2You're a retard
- dmbchris, on 04/04/2009, -6/+7From what Chinese people have told me, this is pretty standard over there. The cultural attitude is that tests are a competition between student and teacher. If the student gets away with cheating, then it is the teacher that has failed, not the student. Why do you think all of these people were helped by parents (and other teachers).
- smartnose, on 04/04/2009, -0/+1Ye. At least half of the test questions are like that. Besides that, we weren't allowed to use a calculator. And you have to score at least 80% right to get into a descent university.
Chinese Science education largely followed the Russian style: theory at the very beginning with huge amount of exercises. I don't think it is necessarily better for the nation because most of the people won't use this knowledge for their whole life. It's kinda a waste. But, on the other hand, some really talented american undergraduates I met lack enough training, though there are very ones.
The top two universities of China is producing more science & engineering ph.d. students studying in U.S. than other American Universities. And they have to study 10 years for English! This is not kidding.
Actually, these tests are still not so tough as some of the top Japanese university entrance exams, because it's a national level test. It's a slightly different system. - museamongmen, on 04/04/2009, -1/+2I imagined a series of wildly elaborate tricks set to tense music.
a most exciting movie! - Zique, on 04/04/2009, -2/+3It'd be fun to know if that question is representative of the whole test. Obviously you can find examples of individual insanely hard university entrance exam question anywhere in the world, but if the whole test is like that, it's a completely different story.
- JYoungest1, on 04/04/2009, -3/+3Not so sure jail is the best thing to be doing to them. Just ban the cheater from taking the test again, or add it to a public domain record, effectively ruining their career.
All you people saying we should do this here (US) are ***** stupid, jail is for criminals who cause harm. Not retards who cheat on tests. - orsinoduke, on 04/04/2009, -8/+8this is good. Jail those bastard.
- IFEice, on 04/04/2009, -3/+3Actually people in China are pretty happy with what they have, I believe the concept is called Ignorance is bliss.
Nothing will come to you if you stop doing stupid things. - spoon088, on 04/04/2009, -1/+1You do know that most criminals these days are in for drug use/possession? Drugs including pot. In a narrow sense, they're only hurting themselves, unless they get others to do drugs as well. In a wider sense, they support the drug industry that makes it easier for others to get into drugs.
Cheating lowers quality and increases standards falsely. Cheating helps people that shouldn't succeed "succeed." A cheat that becomes a doctor will be a bad doctor and will be more likely to cause death through malpractice. Not only that, but it makes it harder for honest people to succeed since society is competitive. - anthropodeus, on 04/04/2009, -3/+3why? i think a fair punishment would be that the kids just fail the exams. when u think about it, it was the kids that made the choice to cheat, not just their parents and teachers. they should be held responsible. but also, they didnt hurt anyone but themselves. i don't think that makes the students, teachers, or parents dangerous members of society, just fools. china is gonna end up with TONS of people imprisoned if they imprison you for crimes as petty as cheating on a school test!
as for the teachers and parents, the teachers should be fired, and the parent may or may not lose their job when their employer hears about it. - Sophieq, on 04/06/2009, -0/+0this is not the usual exam, it's university entrance exams which be considered the most important exam for the students. the cheats should be punish, otherwise the other will follow them.
- nemomarlin, on 04/04/2009, -0/+0In china getting in university is the hardest part, plus a degree is everything in China
- inactive, on 04/05/2009, -0/+0Translation: Chinese » English
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1. penis - s32843, on 04/05/2009, -1/+1This is an average problem. I think many Grade 10 students in China can solve this.
- nikhil760, on 04/04/2009, -2/+1"detected the efforts to transmit the answers to the students on their radios"
Which century do they live in? Detecting something like that ! - yerdaddy, on 04/04/2009, -4/+2That would be incorrect. You need all the degrees and clearances to make a full time job out of that.
- moneymanager007, on 04/04/2009, -5/+2chin cha chun,
hee huwe ho - vikingboy, on 04/04/2009, -12/+9Bury me !!!!
- JohnEHubertz, on 04/04/2009, -8/+4How is this different from 6 years to be a dental technician (felony = no license)
10 yrs to be a dentist
4 years to be an rn....
and, no test-out option, so, after 10 years of studying in dentistry under a practicing dentist, the tech still has no access to being one. There's your MalCorp SPAMlaw... and our health care costs/shameful outcomes.
GREED GREED GREED and Unconstitutional as usual - ArrangedEntropy, on 04/04/2009, -5/+0Yikes! Talk about walking on egg shells.
- yerdaddy, on 04/04/2009, -9/+3Better off just not taking it.
- AikoMiko, on 04/04/2009, -9/+2Wu-Tang clan ain't nothing to ***** with.
- christoast, on 04/04/2009, -11/+2In communist China, Test cheats YOU.
- alamedaman, on 04/04/2009, -12/+3I'm surprised they weren't executed, with their next of kin being sent the bill for the bullet. it is china, after all.
- JohnEHubertz, on 04/03/2009, -15/+2oh yeah I forgot, and of course, the existing corps and etc do donate, so now in Indiana you have to have a license to be a child clown, or to have a DOG WITH BALLS
- Dadfather, on 04/04/2009, -14/+1It must suck to live in a place where the value of a human life is so low that you get imprisoned for cheating.
- JohnEHubertz, on 04/03/2009, -23/+6Am I the only person that is noticing how incredibly unnecessary all the degree and license requirements are to regular human beings?
I smell fear - centrist and corporate fear. The 'net is blowing our minds into whole new awareness of how terrible the last 300 years have been. Chinese guy = I want peace, and good opportunity for kids. USA gal = I want peace, and good opportunity for kids. Somalian fireman = I want peace, and good opportunity for kids Venezuelan president = I want peace, and good opportunity for kids.
But, some folks we don't see at the mall or regular restaurants say: Fly your plane over North Korea young person - illegally of course. OR they say Venz Chavez is going to ATTACK us with his evil desire to take back his own country's MINES and OIL WELLS that kept them poor since CORPORATE COLONIALISTS STOLE ALL THEIR GOOD *****
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