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- dargoesdigging, on 04/22/2009, -0/+41Didn't Google Earth beat them to that announcement 2 years ago?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9740023-7.html - ohplease, on 04/23/2009, -9/+44Showing off your nuclear submarine fleet isn't a sign of good will. A nuclear submarine fleet exists to assure your enemy that even if they wiped out your entire country in one massive nuclear barrage, you would still have enough subs sneaking around in parts unknown to nuke them to hell and back as well.
This is why the US would park their Trident Class nuclear subs right in San Francisco harbour instead of some secret sub pen. To remind Russia and China that even if they win, they lose. - Falldog, on 04/23/2009, -2/+28FYI nuclear submarine = submarine powered by a nuclear reactor
Doesn't necessarily mean they're all carrying a armament of nukes. - Karmashock, on 04/23/2009, -3/+26The real annoying part of this is that they're using a lot of our technology to make these subs. Our designs keep getting leaked to the Chinese. So to a large extent US tax payers are funding the brain trust of the Chinese military. We just had the designs for the F-35 stolen as well... so you can see the pattern here. Information security in the US military industrial complex needs to be dramatically upgraded. That is unless you want the Chinese to just copy us without breaking a sweat.
- ohplease, on 04/23/2009, -4/+22I am Canadian you idiot.
- Amazetbm, on 04/23/2009, -1/+19Thank you, Wal Mart shoppers.
- divinediva, on 04/22/2009, -0/+13It is continuing to invest heavily in expanding and upgrading its fleet.
- kazakia, on 04/22/2009, -5/+17THEYAH CHARGIN THIER LAZER!!!
- rz8472, on 04/23/2009, -0/+8It's a PLAN that China intends to make good on.
- kamisama, on 04/23/2009, -1/+9So is this why their subs popped up behind a US fleet without them even having a clue where they came from all of the sudden?
- Darkyuubi, on 04/23/2009, -1/+9nah...the Chinese just want to scare the ***** out of Taiwan. Its all good.
- Pseudorious, on 04/23/2009, -8/+16Liberty should never be held in check by totalitarianism.
- majortom1981, on 04/23/2009, -0/+7Actually another nation with lots of military power gives the US a reason to stock pile things like nuclear weapons and build planes and such.
- Cayfox, on 04/23/2009, -0/+7Vhat good is a deterrent if nobody knows about it?
- gottadiggit, on 04/23/2009, -0/+6WANTED: New World Super Power. Must have subs.
- peters1023, on 04/23/2009, -0/+6He's dumb, not racist.
- mrsteveman1, on 04/23/2009, -0/+6It's true, rednecks commonly make reasoned statements as to the strategic plans of their country with regards to nuclear war.
Yep. - decet, on 04/22/2009, -7/+12I welcome the arrival of our chinese submarine over.... erhm, underlords.
- iMike360, on 04/23/2009, -1/+6@americanoboy
Any one else find it ironic there is 'american' in his username? - taibo, on 04/23/2009, -3/+8No ***** you have to learn Chinese to operate a Chinese nuclear submarine.
And having a submarine that sinks is a good thing. - nalguita, on 04/23/2009, -1/+6... if you turn it upside down does the sub say made in china?
- Harabeck, on 04/23/2009, -2/+6All things being relative, it's not that bad actually. Especially if you want to compare with China.
- Karmashock, on 04/23/2009, -0/+4Penetration to that degree is not acceptable. Furthermore, they've successfully walked away with a lot of other designs. If all the Chinese got was this design, I wouldn't really care. It worries me because what we actually have here is a larger pattern of information security incompetence. It seems that as soon as something is on a computer our government doesn't know how to deal with it. That's unacceptable.
- HillBully, on 04/23/2009, -4/+8China: All your oceans are belong to us.
- desmonde, on 04/23/2009, -0/+4"build goodwill by increasing transparency"...they're nuclear ***** submarines...how much goodwill goes into one of them things...
- unhg, on 04/23/2009, -0/+3Worst. Idea. Ever.
They have nukes too. - klaytonfreak, on 04/23/2009, -3/+6Hmmm, nothing says peace and harmony like a fleet of submarines capable of firing nuclear missiles right? WTF?
- firstplt, on 04/23/2009, -0/+3i wonder how many chinese nationals that live in china are on digg at a time. I bet they are the ones that digg down any thing bad that it's being said about china. I can just imagine a warehouse full of computers and people just digging down any that is not in accordance to the chinese communist party rules.
- ohplease, on 04/23/2009, -0/+3Cookingboy, thanks for the correction :)
- ohplease, on 04/23/2009, -3/+6Falldog, true, but at least when it comes to US submarines, almost all of them are both ballistic and nuclear, which is why they have an SSBN designation (ship submersible ballistic nuclear).
- inactive, on 04/23/2009, -1/+4It's difficult to say at this point. I'm willing to bet a little of both, as a few hundred thousand dollars can buy some very interesting secrets from a few low level engineers at these firms.
- AlienMushroom, on 04/23/2009, -1/+4You should ask Palin if she does.
- QQsomeMore, on 04/23/2009, -0/+3i c wat u did thar
- inactive, on 04/23/2009, -0/+3China Steals U.S. Military Secrets:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/militar ... - Arsenard, on 04/23/2009, -0/+3The sheet rock is to kill you, not them! They know very well what they are doing. It is all at our expense! (and we pay for it)
- inactive, on 04/23/2009, -1/+4The name I used might be a little more realistic...
- changedmind, on 04/23/2009, -1/+3You mean Hu Jawang?
- peters1023, on 04/23/2009, -0/+2Thanks for saying it.
- inactive, on 04/23/2009, -0/+2To see nuclear subs in action, right?
- cookingboy, on 04/23/2009, -0/+2Huh...ohplease...you are wrong, most of the submarines in U.S navies are SSNs (referring to the other reply of yours), which include Los Angeles class, Seawolf class and Virginia class...the only class of SSBNs in service is the Ohio class.
Also, Trident is not a class of submarine but a class of SLBM (Submarine-launched ballistic missile). And yes, they are carried by the Ohio class SSBNs. - Vorg, on 04/23/2009, -3/+5Stolen? or sold?
- cyberdork, on 04/23/2009, -0/+2and vice versa...
- inactive, on 04/23/2009, -0/+2i dont get it
- Wojjie, on 04/23/2009, -0/+2Nuclear doesn't necessarily mean nuclear missiles, but nuclear powered, so they can go longer range.
- seethefuture, on 04/23/2009, -1/+3The information that was stolen from the Pentagon's computers wasn't really the design or anything classified. It's just the maintenance manual for the F-35.
- dwiezel, on 04/23/2009, -0/+2They are being very decisive, strategic, tactile and deliberate with their plans, actions, etc. and its all building up to something, something with fire! They want to rock your world! Are you ready for a fight?
- DouglasQ, on 04/23/2009, -4/+6That's Japan you racist.
- jtt123, on 04/23/2009, -1/+2yeah to the ones who digg it down, you are the ones why china would ever want to use them against us
- Risingashes, on 04/23/2009, -0/+1And if everyone had nuclear subs there wouldn't be any more "liberating" going on.
Sounds like the perfect solution. - Karmashock, on 04/23/2009, -1/+2Vorg, you can't sell something if you don't own it. If the chinese pay someone else to steal it then it was still stolen. Further, if they know the people they're buying it from don't own it then they know they're buying stolen property.
Thus the distinction between stolen and sold becomes nil. Doubtless there is some of both... not that it matters much either way. Information security has to address both problems. -
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