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China: Famous Photo Was Faked: Photographer, Editor Fired

online.wsj.com — It turns out that train tracks in Tibet aren't where the antelope play. Earlier this week, Xinhua, China's state-run news agency, issued an unusual public apology for publishing a doctored photograph of Tibetan wildlife frolicking near a high-speed train. The deception was uncovered by Chinese Internet users who sniffed out a Photoshop scam.

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  • Member148, on 02/27/2008, -11/+55China is know for pirating things.
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    • antonycao, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4"is known for'- a Chinese
    • fxu1989, on 02/27/2008, -0/+11I would've gotten away with it, if it wasn't for you meddling kids and your leet computer skills!
    • GawtMilk, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1In related news, Mr. Liu was seen entering a bell tower screaming "PAARRRKKKEERRR!".
  • mcduckov, on 02/27/2008, -23/+8I bury everything that may be photoshopped, just to be safe.
    • zaibatsu, on 02/27/2008, -3/+12I hate censorship :(
    • SeventhSon, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2I wasn't sure, but some of the pixels around the characters in your post look a little sketchy, so to be on the safe side: buried.
    • spudfrog, on 02/27/2008, -4/+2You've been buried, just to be safe.
  • HenvY, on 02/27/2008, -7/+25Communist propoganda news agencies issue apologies? And give a crap what their readers say? I would have expected them to just send anybody who questioned the validity of the photo to prison for life.
    • MacSuxWindozSux, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3Or maybe the photo was useless to or hurting the governments agenda.
    • absurdist, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3OMG COMMIES!!! THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!!

      Damn, Senator McCarthy. What is it, still 1950 in your world?
    • Forklore, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1or better yet...find the most cost efficient way to remove the resistance from the planet. You know like Hitler...But you don't know who it is unless you make something like this to complain about.
    • Bodhinature, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1Those internet users are dead now.
  • alexhud, on 02/27/2008, -4/+92was thinking the famous china photo was Tiananmen Square with the guy in front of the tank
    • Arcesius, on 02/27/2008, -2/+53If you look closely, you'll notice that he was pregnant, and pregnant Chinese men are easily frightened by big, loud tanks.
    • Caddis, on 02/27/2008, -7/+3The Tienanmen Square pictures are real. There is actual video of the person standing in front of the tank. In the video, it shows one of his / her buddies coming by and pulling him out of the way. He stood there for a minute or two, but then one of his friends pulled him out of the way.
      • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/27/2008, -0/+10It seems that in addition to hundreds, if not thousands of people, humor died on that day in Tienanmen square...
      • crossmr, on 02/27/2008, -0/+14there is no evidence the person pulling him away is a friend..
    • SHv2, on 02/27/2008, -2/+9Amazingly enough when I was there the people have no freaking clue that that ever happened. Apparently China owns a secret mind erasing death ray.
      • Arcesius, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1That ray being called government controlled media.
  • 3tcp, on 02/27/2008, -9/+2How many people in China actually get to hear these kinds of stories about how their government lies to them? It seems that it would be damn near impossible for China to filter out all the subversive information from emails and what-not unless they have filtering technology that is vastly superior to that available in the US
    • EXreaction, on 02/27/2008, -3/+4And how many people hear about the stories of what happens in our government? I don't really think you realize just how well they control the media. You should hear some of the things I heard about what the US government is doing when I took a visit to Ireland...
      • oldhick, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Right, those Irish know all about us!!! I visit Ireland every couple months on business and I'd be interested to hear what tid bits you gathered that were unknown to you prior.
      • WikiEasy, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1The common people have freedom of speech, to post and criticize anything they see as unfair. With the internet, there's no stopping the people. China on the other hand....
    • kingmanic, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3People I know in China are aware the news is often slanted towards the government. They take most news with a grain of salt although they aren't sure where the lies start or end. They assume every nation has that sort of bias/propaganda. Although most of the people I know are upper middle class. The other classes may have different perceptions.
    • Bodhinature, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1People living in an oppressive society assume their oppressors are lying to them. We, on the other hand, in a "free" society, assume a level of transparency that rarely exists.
  • mentol, on 02/27/2008, -11/+4BUSTED :)
  • enclaved, on 02/27/2008, -3/+33"has brought on a big debate about media ethics, China's troubled relationship with Tibet, and how pregnant antelope react to noise."

    ah, the big three issues over there eh?
    • serif69, on 02/27/2008, -2/+12***** commie bastards with their pregnant antelope afraid of noise. Pregnant antelope in a democracy would stand up to that train, waving the American flag and singing "We Shall Overcome". Chuck Norris would lead the charge.
  • JesusHatesYou, on 02/27/2008, -3/+67When they say the photograher and editor were fired, they mean executed by firing squad, right?
    • dondara, on 02/27/2008, -1/+8You betcha and the bill for ammo sent to the families. I guess when you have 1.6 billion of anything they stop being valuable.
      • dafragsta, on 02/27/2008, -8/+11.6B? really? That's almost 25% of the world's population? Why don't they revolt? Aren't most of them descended from Ghengis Khan anyway? Show some pride in your badass lineage, people!
    • graemee, on 02/27/2008, -0/+8I call dibs on a kidney.
    • AndreiOttawa, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3...the photographer and editor were fired [at]...
    • Fabozz, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2Who needs to bother with anything so crude? When you can only get a job from or by the permission of the government, the government can starve you to death just by making you unemployable. When all health care comes from the government, the government can kill you just by refusing to treat you.
      • texpundit, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2"When all health care comes from the government, the government can kill you just by refusing to treat you."

        And people wonder why a good chunk of US citizens are against universal healthcare...?!?
      • xNIBx, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1If the government refuses to treat you, then that government wont be reelected. So a universal healthcare system can work but only in democracies. China doesnt have a democracy.
      • Kanidia, on 02/28/2008, -1/+1"When you can only get a job from or by the permission of the government, the government can starve you to death just by making you unemployable". -- That is not the case. China functions on a capitalist economy. It is the company's decision whether to hire you or not. Sure, the government has influence over the company... but that has to do with corruption, and not the system of economy that they are using.

        Again, the government does not have legal control over the health care system to refuse individuals. However, if you want to discuss corruption and how they do have the de facto power... well then China's government has the de facto power to do anything they want.
  • SavageBlackCat, on 02/27/2008, -4/+37In unrelated news the New York Times just hired a new photographer and editor.
  • RedReplicant, on 02/27/2008, -7/+2It is always encouraging to see China's ***** getting called out by the international community.
    Way to go, internet.
    • Arcesius, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Was caught by some Chinese internet users, from what the article said.
      • RedReplicant, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1Yes. And subsequently, the ***** is being called out by the international community.
        • thugok, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3Just admit you were wrong and get over it.
  • eatkitten, on 02/27/2008, -11/+1This looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
    • alpha94, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4Or, by reading the headline.
      • psychochicken, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0Hahah how do people not get that line.
  • Bagrad, on 02/27/2008, -6/+1That photographer's career as a photographer is definitely finished, must hurt
  • lnxfi, on 02/27/2008, -6/+0Busted!
    http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1716030
  • ZephyrNinety, on 02/27/2008, -6/+1If that were real, there would be people running under the train, not animals.
  • horscategorie, on 02/27/2008, -7/+1Shopped.
  • otbeverly, on 02/27/2008, -5/+3Well, I've got to give it to China for at least publishing a correction. I just hope they don't go overboard with it like my newspaper did. We once published a correction for a misidentifying the name of a piece of equipment used for playing Quiditich (or whatever that game is supposed to be called) in a feature written for an upcoming Harry Potter movie. It was a pretty minute detail that would only be noticed by the utmost fanboy, but I guess they all called in to complain and thus a correction was printed.

    I can understand publishing a correction for something newsworthy such as this or misidentifying someone or something in a REAL photo (or in this case representing a photographic as a real photo), but for Harry Potter? Come on.
    • platypibri, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Accuracy is accuracy. How can we trust you with the big stuff when (based on your post) we obviously can't trust you with the small stuff? Who lends a guy a $1000 when he knows he won't pay back a $10 dollar debt.
      • thugok, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3Because there is a huge difference between a mistake about an obscure fact and an outright lie.
        • platypibri, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1and also a big difference between making a mistake and ignoring a known error. I still say if I know it's policy not to correct facts, no matter how small, I can't trust that news source.
    • automate, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2if you dont know how to spell, and do not bother to research your subject, then why work in a newspaper?
      • otbeverly, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0You are obviously the type of fanboy I'm speaking of. I don't even work in the dept. that ran the story of Quid-who-gives-a-*****-what-its-called-itch. I work in sports where real games are played with real equipment, not imaginary equipment. I don't have a problem with accuracy, but it does become a problem when it runs amuck.
        • automate, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1lol. you dont even try to spell or even post decently. I was just wondering why, you still continue to work there. Obviously I and many others expect newspapers to have some standards. You are not exhibiting any. And regarding real sports, any person who runs across a field trying to protect or snatch a ball from other persons are just dumb. Why dont they just go do something useful for mankind?
    • automate, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1How the ***** am I to know what ***** department you are in? You just said that your newpaper put out some *****.
  • zevgreen, on 02/27/2008, -6/+5And I am sure the serial number of the Adobe Photoshop software used wasn't faked either.
    • kingmanic, on 02/27/2008, -7/+2My Cousin is a fashion photographer in Beijing and owns a studio. His studio clears about 6k-12k USD a month, I'm sure he can afford $799 USD for a legit versions of photoshop and I'm also sure he can't afford to get wrapped up in a lawsuit from adobe as he works for some rather big names which might draw adobes attention (Cosmo China, Elle China etc..)
      • nbyn, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3congratulations to you and your cousin.
  • ghall, on 02/27/2008, -7/+2Photoshopped!
  • JimAtKSF, on 02/27/2008, -3/+3Dugg for China eating crow.
  • mogebier, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3What an amateur.
    • LovelyNeko, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Yea totally, like you saw the shadows? they were all ***** up LOL! And the clouds...LOL they look to perfect to be real.
  • plarp, on 02/27/2008, -3/+2chinese media lie? thats unpossible!
  • kipmartin, on 02/27/2008, -7/+1China and Japan own about 50% all those bonds issued to balance the deficit. the deficit is managed by floating loans and paying interest on the bonds to those two countries

    when i was a kid we were told to worry about Russia taking over the world. Arguably, China has pwned us since the September 11, 2001 attacks. the George W. Bush administration projected in the 2002 U.S. Budget that there would be a $1.288 trillion surplus from 2001 through 2004. wonder what happened to the surplus Bill Clinton ammassed? enter the Bush administration and their spendaholism. 49 %of this swing was due to "administration economic and technical re-estimates," 29 percent was due to "tax relief," (mainly the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts, and the remaining 22 percent was due to "war, homeland, and other enacted legislation" (mainly expenditures for the War on Terror, Iraq War, and homeland security).

    in other words, our $9 TRILLION deficit was mostly amassed during the last 7 years. each American basically has a $75K loan from China and we pay the interest by having reduced services, a faltering dollar that buys less and less each year, and through tapping money in Medicare and Medicaid. our children will be paying twice that if the current trend continues fie another 8 years.

    sources:
    - www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy08/pdf/spec.pdf
    - www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
    - www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

    and my favorite:
    - http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?applicat ...

    so if they want to Photoshop here and there, let them!
  • bty2047, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Photoshopped the shadows are all wrong!
  • darkever, on 02/27/2008, -0/+3This article will probably be blocked in China within 24 hours.
    • SpaceMonkeyZero, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Do you think the wall street journal isn't blocked already?
  • ColorBlind, on 02/27/2008, -3/+1Quickly!!! Ban the internet tubes!!!!!!
  • fakekevinrose, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1he should have paid more attention to the you suck at photoshop lessons
  • foopirata, on 02/27/2008, -0/+4I wonder when Reuters will follow their example.

    /sarcasm
  • logic6, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2I like the fact that a picture of a high-speed, smoke billowing train scaring the hell out of a bunch of animals was "easing concerns" of the environmentalists.

    If we just showed a picture of the Japanese beheading a whale would greenpeace calm down?
  • borez, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1DONNIE!!!
  • Striff, on 02/27/2008, -4/+8raff out roud
  • kidjay, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1obvious bad chop
  • drizzlelicious, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I like how all the other award winning pictures are flattering pictures of China.
  • millenniumjules, on 02/27/2008, -2/+2Sometimes you digg something. Then suddenly you realize that you don't gives a rats ass about the subject. That is the way i feel about this article, I really couldn't care less..
    • logic6, on 02/27/2008, -1/+4So you digg AND comment on the stories you don't care about?
      • millenniumjules, on 02/28/2008, -0/+1Sometimes.. I really don't know why. Haven't you tried to order something to eat, but when you get the food, you find out you rather wanted something else..
  • StormFreak, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Hi, I'm Donnie... and you suck at photoshop...
  • Brownds, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0Wow he was only fired? Good for him! I am surprised he was not executed.
    • otbeverly, on 02/27/2008, -0/+0I believe "fired" is a term used loosely in China. By firing someone, they actually mean they fired a gun at someone, specifically their head.
  • jdack, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1I find it amazing that given the amount of time and energy people spend on photochopping stuff for fark, worth1000, SA, etc, that any organization would be stupid enough to think they can put one over on 'teh internets.' At least in regards to photoshopped pictures.
  • bjs3171, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1i can see the splicing line even without magnifying the picture, but how the hell can you tell that antelope is pregnant? and why is it pointing to its head to indicate the pregnancy?

    also, what was the point of that photo to begin with? to make like the train has a great view?
  • phoenixm4, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1That wouldn't be the first time this happened.
  • bjs3171, on 02/27/2008, -1/+3One time, at my job, I mentioned in an email to the people at our Chinese factories that it was raining hard here in the states. they write back that it's beautiful weather there, so they don't know why it would be nasty over here. I then face-palmed.

    clearly those people will take over the world.
  • Pinkertinkle, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Am surprised the Chinese govt gives a crap about admitting mistakes.
  • sindex, on 02/27/2008, -0/+2It's the pixels, man.. all in the pixels.
  • j2002, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1lol Chinas State TV network is call CCTV.
  • h0stile17, on 02/27/2008, -4/+0RAFF OUT ROUD!!!!
  • pagalchu, on 02/27/2008, -1/+1what do they get for doing sh*t like that?
  • solid12345, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1He'll be on the frontlines of Southern Lebanon to fake pictures for Hezbollah when the next war rolls around.
  • Hermmunster, on 02/27/2008, -3/+1I know that China is repressive to freedoms found to be inherent in all mankind. I also know that they are manipulating our currency and they censor everything their leaders tell them to.

    So, I also know they are abusing their environment. I know their environment has to be suffering drammatically. But as I read this about 1 man, 1 car, 1 camera, 1 year I asked myself whether this mattered to me.

    My conclusion is that as far as their conservations efforts go, they don't do anything. Why would they protect their wildlife while destroying the lives of their citizens. So, my conclusion was that I don't really care about a doctored photo or whether the editor was fired.
    • enrydice, on 03/14/2008, -0/+0you know what???
      no investigation,no speech...
  • tumbler360, on 02/27/2008, -1/+2Better lock down that internet access china, no telling what they'll discover next.
  • WalterSolbchak, on 02/27/2008, -1/+0pics and it didn't happen
  • kund57, on 02/27/2008, -2/+1Heres a thought. Who gives a *****? This is like people magazine for techies.
  • dexedrine, on 02/27/2008, -0/+1Dugg for linking to the print view.
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