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Calls for Olympic boycott after Tibet brutality
telegraph.co.uk — China's crackdown on demonstrators in Tibet has prompted international condemnation and a call for a boycott of this summer's Beijing Olympics.Protesters took to the streets to voice their anger in cities around the world. Some of the protests became violent and in India, Australia and China, police moved in to disperse crowds.
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- hiscity, on 03/17/2008, -19/+209 "The sportive, knightly battle awakens the best human characteristics. It doesn't separate, but unites the combatants in understanding and respect. It also helps to connect the countries in the spirit of peace. That's why the Olympic Flame should never die."
– Adolf Hitler, commenting on the 1936 Berlin Olympic Games
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Summer_Olympics- Kronk42583, on 03/17/2008, -11/+128as with nazi germany... the feeling that china has any aspirations of peace is absurd. people on digg love to point out scientology's bullying tactics, chinas hypocrisy and censorship makes CoS look like walt disney.
- rebrad, on 03/17/2008, -6/+25I have to agree. How anyone could want the Olympics to continue either plans to make money off it or just don't care. There are plenty of other venues for an athlete to pursue their goals. The Olympics have just become another marketing tool for the corrupt and the greedy.
- masamunecyrus, on 03/17/2008, -19/+7The Olympics have nearly always been held, regardless of war, atrocity, or genocide. It's an international competition, not a political event, try as China might to make it one. I don't see any reason why it should be any different this year.
- WoollyMittens, on 03/17/2008, -3/+15Try reading up on the Olympic games of 1936 before you repeat propaganda.
- archiesteel, on 03/17/2008, -0/+7Or the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow, in which 62 countries boycotted due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, or the 14-country boycott of the 1984 games in LA...24 countries also boycotted the 1976 games in Montreal.
In fact, it seems boycotting Olympic games is a pretty common form of protest. I think in this case it would be quite justifiable to threaten a boycott.
- Elliuotatar, on 03/17/2008, -2/+7I agree. The fact that only one news station is allowed to broadcast them, and that they have a special copyright that extends to any use of the word olympic, or any variation thereof, or the ring logo, goes completely against the spirit of the games.
(And in case you're wondering how that can be when there is a company called Olympia... THey were grandfathered in.)- Pyrorunner, on 03/17/2008, -9/+1Protecting their copyright has nothing to do with withholding the spirit of international athletic competition. They just don't want the Olympic name to get diluted.
- Elliuotatar, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3How's it gonna get diluted? Everyone knows the difference between "The Olympics" and "The Olympics of the Mind" for example which was an invention contest that I entered when younger that was forced to change it's name I'm sure.
- masamunecyrus, on 03/17/2008, -19/+7The Olympics have nearly always been held, regardless of war, atrocity, or genocide. It's an international competition, not a political event, try as China might to make it one. I don't see any reason why it should be any different this year.
- zunipus, on 03/17/2008, -10/+6Most certainly.
But there is no enemy like the one living in your home. There is nothing dramatic or exaggerated in saying that the fraudulently named 'Church' of Scientology is guilty of murder as well as political and mental manipulation. They have, and will continue to, hurt people around the world with their power grubbing immoral attitude toward fellow human beings. The fact that their fake 'religion' is built upon a sci-fi story by a proven pedophile is profoundly sickening and psychotic. Come and get me Scienterrificologists! But I haven't said anything that hasn't already been proven in public. Your mask has been torn off. Get lost. - robinator08, on 03/17/2008, -2/+17Walt DIsney was an *****.
- harveywalbanger, on 03/17/2008, -2/+7Disney was an anti-semitic ***** who ratted people out during Joseph McCarthy's witch hunt for Commies during the 1950's.
- BrewBeau, on 03/17/2008, -2/+5Didn't he also hire some Nazis who managed to escape prosecution?
- allfatherblack, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1makes the Church of Scientology look like money grubbing corrupt douchebags? No comparison to Disney needed; they do that themselves.
- rebrad, on 03/17/2008, -6/+25I have to agree. How anyone could want the Olympics to continue either plans to make money off it or just don't care. There are plenty of other venues for an athlete to pursue their goals. The Olympics have just become another marketing tool for the corrupt and the greedy.
- ontain, on 03/17/2008, -20/+43I think we need to worry less about China and more about the US and how we're hypocrites as well. And our civil liberties have gone down dramatically but we're more worried about outside forces.
- alex7575, on 03/17/2008, -7/+36Because we shoot protesters on sight?
I agree with you on a certain level, but you can't really compare here.- Phrag, on 03/17/2008, -9/+20"Because we shoot protesters" On occasion yes... Kent State College, May 4th, 1970. Jackson State College, May 14th-15th, 1970. South Carolina State University, February 8th, 1968.
- Monk22, on 03/17/2008, -3/+17anything on that list thats less than 30 years old? just because we did doesnt mean we still do it. and it doesnt mean we cant say shooting protesters on sight is wrong.
- alex7575, on 03/17/2008, -2/+7And it seems we've learned from our mistakes, as it doesn't really seem to happen anymore.
- Phrag, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1I agree that it doesn't mean that we can't say it was wrong. I may argue the point that we don't do it anymore. The government seems to have figured out that using live rounds is too far so now they use 'less lethal' rubber bullets which still injure and can kill. If the level of protests against the Iraq war reaches that of the protests against the Vietnam war and the fight for Civil Rights, then I would not be surprised to see them use deadly force against unarmed protesters again.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0407-06.ht ...
http://jonesreport.com/articles/170806_rubber_bull ...
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- senatorpjt, on 03/17/2008, -7/+2We don't shoot them anymore, we just use tear gas and tasers. Nobody cares because they don't die, although the effect on the protest is the same. Worse, actually, because the public might take notice if people died.
- alex7575, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5How in this world, or any world, is getting tasered or gassed worse than being killed?!?!?!
- senatorpjt, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1Bullets are worse for the speaker, tasers are worse for the speech.
- ICSU, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3The ones in Iraq for starters.
The ones in the US are only tasered, which seems to be fatal too in some cases.
- Phrag, on 03/17/2008, -9/+20"Because we shoot protesters" On occasion yes... Kent State College, May 4th, 1970. Jackson State College, May 14th-15th, 1970. South Carolina State University, February 8th, 1968.
- dartmanx, on 03/17/2008, -3/+27Just because we have issues, means that China is right? The vast majority of Americans have nothing to do with what supposedly happens at Gitmo or other facilities, but you're telling them they have no right to say anything about China.
- ShrimpCrackers, on 03/17/2008, -2/+3Guess what? The vast majority of Americans ARE against Gitmo and other illegal facilities as well. To NOT speak out against China in this matter WOULD make us hypocrites.
- dartmanx, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Why are you jumping my ass when you agree with me?
- ShrimpCrackers, on 03/17/2008, -2/+3Guess what? The vast majority of Americans ARE against Gitmo and other illegal facilities as well. To NOT speak out against China in this matter WOULD make us hypocrites.
- MaxPayne3476, on 03/17/2008, -17/+5Our civil Liberties have gone down? Oh really?
I don't know a time period when the freedom of expression was more prominent. When you could worship any religion or not. When you could say what you want, when you want, and publish it anywhere. When we can protest and boycott. When equality has reached new heights - sure not perfect and nonracial, but new heights non-of-the-less from previous eras.- zunipus, on 03/17/2008, -2/+9Actually the US citizen civil liberties have declined under the Bush administration if several easily demonstrable ways. If you can read the news then you are capable of doing your home work and seeing this is quite correct. This is what I call the failure of the US in the so-called 'War On Terror'. The moment we began to denigrate the values in the US Constitution, as has been the case under the Bush administration, was the moment the terrorists WON. These are very sick times for the USA.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -1/+8too bad your freedom of expression doesn't mean ***** and if you do something the govt don't like they will call you a terrorist and throw you in Guantanamo.
- Ryosen, on 03/17/2008, -1/+8Because China's actions will be a precursor to war, one in which the US will inevitably get dragged into to. That's why we should care.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -10/+5one that the US will inevitably start because of the ignorant public
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -10/+2when have any protestors been shot on sight? that is just pure propagandist *****
- MrSlumberjack, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7Ignorance at its finest
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -5/+2please enlighten, guy who didn't give two ***** about tibet until this garbage propaganda popped up a couple days ago, guy who probably doesn't know anything about the history of the region or countries at all. guy who probably watches fox and voted for bush, calling me ignorant? gimme a break douche. and of course link me to one sided videos that only show the reactions to people's action so that it can be misconstrued into brutality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo&eurl=ht ... - MrSlumberjack, on 03/19/2008, -0/+1Not even worth the bother. Do your own research, you immature *****.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -5/+2please enlighten, guy who didn't give two ***** about tibet until this garbage propaganda popped up a couple days ago, guy who probably doesn't know anything about the history of the region or countries at all. guy who probably watches fox and voted for bush, calling me ignorant? gimme a break douche. and of course link me to one sided videos that only show the reactions to people's action so that it can be misconstrued into brutality.
- MrSlumberjack, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7Ignorance at its finest
- diggimator, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1It was red herring the first time just as well as the umpteen billionth time that line was repeated.
Sorry, the comparison just doesn't come even remotely close to working, especially on the topic of Tibet. - clarionhaze, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Certainly you see the moral implication of your statements...
- alex7575, on 03/17/2008, -7/+36Because we shoot protesters on sight?
- rz8472, on 03/17/2008, -23/+17China is an oppressive regime that's only concerned about keeping itself in power... but this is nowhere near Berlin 1936, and you know it.
- rnolds, on 03/17/2008, -7/+5Sorry I clicked the wrong thing. I meant to digg that comment not bury it.
- zunipus, on 03/17/2008, -4/+3I've read about this sort of ignorant point of view in history books from around the time of the 1936 Olympics when insightful intellectuals were appalled at the appeasement of the Nazis. May your lack of insight meet with its deserved destiny, as happened shortly after 1936. :-P
- rz8472, on 03/17/2008, -2/+3Yeah, like China is out to conquer militarily; if they did that they wouldn't be making money hand-over-fist. Their primary concern in foreign affairs is to build the reputation and legitimacy of the regime in the eyes of the world, so those of us who live in the West would see its terrible human rights record as a mere afterthought to the prospect of lucrative business deals, and those of us who live in Africa can see a good dose of neo-colonialism from a "friend in the East" who is in need of cheap natural resources very soon.
We should be very careful about throwing the N-word around, instead of just using it for hyperbole and scoring cheap points. China is nothing like Nazi Germany - any exterior military action, even towards Taiwan - would not be in their best interests in the immediate future. Get back to me in 50 years when China may become the dominant superpower and are rivals to a weakened US and EU, and you may have a point.
- rz8472, on 03/17/2008, -2/+3Yeah, like China is out to conquer militarily; if they did that they wouldn't be making money hand-over-fist. Their primary concern in foreign affairs is to build the reputation and legitimacy of the regime in the eyes of the world, so those of us who live in the West would see its terrible human rights record as a mere afterthought to the prospect of lucrative business deals, and those of us who live in Africa can see a good dose of neo-colonialism from a "friend in the East" who is in need of cheap natural resources very soon.
- Erect, on 03/17/2008, -4/+47I can't view the link you provided because Wikipedia is censored by the Chinese gov't
- dancingpig1, on 03/17/2008, -19/+13If you want to know the truth, go to China, go to Tibet! Talk to local people! Here is the link from a Canadian in Tibet right now. Listen to what he said! And Stop watching ***** CNN and BBC!
Here is one moe video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo&eurl=ht ...- funkyjunk3, on 03/17/2008, -5/+11and not believe thousands of Tibetans who are fed up with the Chinese Regime oppressing their culture?
I don't think so.- theHM, on 03/17/2008, -7/+5[citation needed]
- dbug, on 03/17/2008, -4/+6Your video is a nice example for the propaganda used by oppressive governments.
Instead of talking about 'facts' (what happened to fact 4 btw?), you should try to create some credibility for your statements by providing the necessary sources. But yeah, dramatic music is definitely easier to find in this case.
CNN might be a pretty biased source of information, but your video provides no information at all.
Honestly, I don't know whether what you present as facts is true or not, the only thing I know is that I don't believe it just because there is a video on youtube that say so.- zuoyue, on 03/17/2008, -1/+0How about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWGGjpJJCKE
A scholar's opinion! - jc801, on 03/17/2008, -3/+1then you obviously don't know anything except for what you see on CNN, which is propagandist trash. Ever seen the movie "Wag the Dog"?
i love how any information not in agreement with your media outlets is automatically made to be false or "propaganda". Why don't you go read the book in the video? then go ***** yourself after.
- zuoyue, on 03/17/2008, -1/+0How about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWGGjpJJCKE
- funkyjunk3, on 03/17/2008, -5/+11and not believe thousands of Tibetans who are fed up with the Chinese Regime oppressing their culture?
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -7/+8did all of you just ignore this line right here? "Some of the protests became violent and in India, Australia and China, police moved in to disperse crowds."
protests became violent in areas outside of China, so who is the one to blame?- funkyjunk3, on 03/17/2008, -4/+4There are always a few bad apples in any crowd, including Tibetans. That group of agitators unfortunately just puts the vast majority of Peaceful protesters in a very bad light.
- basevillin, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5One could always plant fake protesters to incite violence and therefore justify a violent response from police.
- VladislavIII, on 03/17/2008, -2/+0Riot the unbeatable high
- juicebag, on 03/17/2008, -4/+1Haha, oh wow.
- CarStan, on 03/17/2008, -8/+3Godwins Law, anyone?
- stuffradio, on 03/17/2008, -4/+1I'm too lazy to read all of the articles on what's going on with China,
can someone tell me in a nutshell? - schmitey, on 03/17/2008, -1/+4And then Jesse Owens kicked the Germans' ass and won four gold medals. White power my ass!
- dkern, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Hitler sent the "gypsies" into camps and cleared away all the anti-jewish signs, button, and slogans and did a freeze on homosexual arrests, among many things in his Olympic city cleaning process. I am sure China will do the same. All fascists, communists and dictators do the same thing whenever the camera is pointed in their direction. Its because they know what they are doing is wrong and they are ashamed of it- otherwise it wouldn't matter who saw what.
btw, ***** CHINA!- dopey99, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0Does that include US's invasion and militaristic occupation of Iraq? At least you've concluded that the US is both a FASCIST and a HYPOCRITE.
- twertyto, on 03/18/2008, -3/+1I don't know why you posted that quote or why you have 161 diggs ATM. It's a stupid quote from Hilter. How does that get any diggs?
Boycott FTW! - jamessavik, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1In 1980 the US boycotted the Moscow olympics because of the invasion of Afghanistan.
4 years later the Soviets boycotted the Los Angeles games... just cause. - pentupentropy, on 03/20/2008, -0/+1If anyone wants to keep getting the word out there, please sign the petition at http://www.nospintalk.com/content/view/36/1/
recommend it, digg it, sign it, tell the governments of the world to make China behave a little better. Otherwise they can be told to kiss our collective asses.
- Kronk42583, on 03/17/2008, -11/+128as with nazi germany... the feeling that china has any aspirations of peace is absurd. people on digg love to point out scientology's bullying tactics, chinas hypocrisy and censorship makes CoS look like walt disney.
- Kronk42583, on 03/17/2008, -20/+215its surprising we haven't seen any official responses to the increasing number of atrocities coming out of china. from filthy air quality, censoring musicians, tibetan riots, rounding up and killing of cats, censorship of news/video web sites... its ridiculous. every new article i read about china makes me want to throw up. this olympics is going to be a mess. and i will make a point not to watch it.
- bosssmiley, on 03/17/2008, -4/+17Greed + pragmatism. There's too much money to be made in China to blot our copybooks by raising any objections on humanitarian grounds. "Pecunia non olat" after all; the hand holding it might be bloody, but the money's still good.
- WikiEasy, on 03/17/2008, -5/+5I don't want any official responses from any polititians polluting this. Once they get involved all the idiots will have the excuse that it's Uncle Sam's propaganda machine that's spinning this for political gains. Let's keep this the people's movement.
- eddy23170, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2well said
- sman5612, on 03/17/2008, -1/+0I agree as well, a revolution is first fought in the streets
- FluffyWolf, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Too late, I already think it is.
- eddy23170, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2well said
- Cannon49, on 03/17/2008, -7/+9Money speaks to the US, and the US controls world foreign policy
- thugok, on 03/17/2008, -1/+8Let's not leave the EU out of this one. They have just as much pull and could just as easily do something about this *****. It's time for everyone to quit pointing at the US to do something and start acting on their own. But the truth is, the US, EU and pretty much every other industrialized nation just want cheap iPods.
- heresy0, on 03/17/2008, -5/+5Please, the EU doesn't have anything close to global reach on the scale of the US.
- senatorpjt, on 03/17/2008, -3/+5their economy is larger than the US now.
- heresy0, on 03/17/2008, -5/+5Please, the EU doesn't have anything close to global reach on the scale of the US.
- Ryosen, on 03/17/2008, -0/+10The US influences world foreign policy, it does not control it.
That privilege goes to OPEC.
- thugok, on 03/17/2008, -1/+8Let's not leave the EU out of this one. They have just as much pull and could just as easily do something about this *****. It's time for everyone to quit pointing at the US to do something and start acting on their own. But the truth is, the US, EU and pretty much every other industrialized nation just want cheap iPods.
- morningmatters, on 03/17/2008, -0/+18US and much of the western culture are based on individual well being as supposed to caring for everyone around the world. It's one thing to complain, but another to spend that extra $20 to buy something which is not made in China, which most people do not want to do even if they are against China.
- senatorpjt, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1$20? It costs a lot more than $20 to start a factory, which is the only way you're going to be able to get a lot of things not made in China.
- roosterjm2k2, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1You know...here's the catch though.
If everyone did that...would china's economy not be brought to it's knees if not completely destroyed?- david468, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3The States' economy would be damaged as well.
- rz8472, on 03/17/2008, -2/+9I will watch it, not for the sports though. Here's for hoping that some brave oppressed farmer who got his land taken away by some greedy businessman and his CCP backers will evade the censors and make his/her plight visible to the whole world. Ironically the revolution was to galvanize the farmers in the first place; now they're in the *****.
- walugi, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1Do you actually know any chinese farmers? I've been to the countryside in many third world and developing countries, and Chinese farmers have it good compared to what's around them. But nah, the US people only hate on China because that's probably the only country they know of in Asia. Heard of Cambodia? Laos? Burma? All those nice countries you free fighters helped destroy :)
- Scaryclouds, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Yes, want me to point them out for you on a map?
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2*****. Hang around Tiananmen for 30 minutes and some poor bastard will start shouting about how the government took away his house or farm and the police will shove him into an unmarked van and haul him away. Happens with amazing regularity.
On average the Chinese people did pretty well up until the 1980's. Then under Deng Xiaoping all that socialist infrastructure evaporated. No more hospitals, no more pensions, no more safety net period. Then at the same time the government began confiscating land from peasants and selling it to developers to build high-rise apartments on. The government pays a little, about 30% of the actual value, but people have no option not to sell. The police will haul your ass right out of your bed if they have to, right before they demolish your house.
The land confiscation issue was the cause of the other, bigger, deadlier riots that happened in Tongzhou a couple years ago.
- walugi, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1Do you actually know any chinese farmers? I've been to the countryside in many third world and developing countries, and Chinese farmers have it good compared to what's around them. But nah, the US people only hate on China because that's probably the only country they know of in Asia. Heard of Cambodia? Laos? Burma? All those nice countries you free fighters helped destroy :)
- Erect, on 03/17/2008, -8/+2.
- madkapitolist, on 03/17/2008, -7/+0Awesome! The other billion viewers and I will sorely miss you.
- alz0rz, on 03/17/2008, -6/+5wtf, they killin kitties?
- emptyinside, on 03/17/2008, -1/+10well, china owns us. who do you think loans our shoddy government money?
- mjpanzer, on 03/17/2008, -3/+29My girlfriend is in China. Her and her friends have called people in the US to talk about Tibet, and almost every time they bring it up, their phone conversations are cut. She also sent me a pro-tibet link from China, and her e-mail address was suspended FOR A MONTH. I wish I was kidding.
- ElectroOverlord, on 03/17/2008, -0/+6Most of us just pretend our GF is in the next state.....j/k
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Is your girlfriend Chinese, and speaking in Chinese?
- Nerfdude, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_01/CagedC ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/new ...- wellyuk, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1What are you linking to "stories" from the Daily Hate for?
- stilesja, on 03/17/2008, -5/+2Killing cats cancels out all that other bad stuff you listed.
- Azselendor, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1When you owe someone a Trillion dollars and let them hold the bank debt on your entire nation, you tend to keep your mouth ***** shut. less they call in that back debt
- w3v3, on 03/17/2008, -61/+321The Olympics are borings as ***** anyway.
- Electric_Sheep, on 03/17/2008, -22/+5I logged in just to digg you up.
- JointheArmy, on 03/17/2008, -2/+3I use cookies so I never have to log in and tell everyone on Digg I just logged in.
- wellyuk, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3I just called to say I love you.
- punkcat, on 03/17/2008, -11/+10amen.
i can only pray that some human atrocity will soon put an end to figure skating.- wacomwacoff, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1This is the summer olympics. No figure skating.
- BrewBeau, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1They'll probably find some way to not show the "unpopular" events to show more back story about how tough the lives of these poor figure skaters are, even if they aren't competing.
- wacomwacoff, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1This is the SUMMER Olympics. Figure skating is a WINTER Olympic event. Good lord, people.
- BrewBeau, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1They'll probably find some way to not show the "unpopular" events to show more back story about how tough the lives of these poor figure skaters are, even if they aren't competing.
- wacomwacoff, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1This is the summer olympics. No figure skating.
- Schmich, on 03/17/2008, -21/+31I like the Olympics, especially when there's someone representing your country or a country with very few resources. Even better when something unusual happens.
Just because half of the diggers failed at sports and were always picked last in school doesn't mean sports/competition is boring "as *****". What's wrong with figure skating? Not enough blood?
But go ahead, digg me down. Truth hurts right?- dinkleberry, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5"Truth hurts right?"
Like a basketball getting thrown in my face. - brufleth, on 03/17/2008, -0/+18What in the world are you talking about? So everyone who thinks the Olympics are boring is bad at sports?
There were always a lot fewer people coming out to see track meets than football games. Many of the sporting events in the Olympics are not really typical spectator sports. - thelock65, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1I play sports
- dinkleberry, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5"Truth hurts right?"
- killerofkiller, on 03/17/2008, -0/+16Beach Volleyball?
- warrenterr, on 03/17/2008, -7/+11American ignorance speaking right there. Other sports are interesting too, if you take the time to learn about them, not just American football.
- getisboy, on 03/17/2008, -5/+3baseball is good too
- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -3/+2American hockey is fun.
- kinseyincanada, on 03/17/2008, -3/+2American hockey? yea sure hockey is American as apple pie
- sleeknerve, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1it was a joke brotha
- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -3/+2American hockey is fun.
- getisboy, on 03/17/2008, -5/+3baseball is good too
- Radical5, on 03/17/2008, -4/+3You don't know how amazingly skilled Olympian athletes actually are. They are on a completely different level than even the best athletes you know.
- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -0/+14I don't care how "skilled" a synchronized swimmer is. It's still synchronized swimming. I can appreciate the time the person put in, but I can also think it's absolutely ridiculous.
- geddon, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2You should see the Silverlight application NBC is building for the Olympics. It will make you wonder why people still watch cable.
- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3Silverlight? Wow, I wonder how much MS is paying them to do that. Looks like I won't be watching it on TV or my computer, then.
- topiKal, on 03/17/2008, -8/+4You are the very reason that nobody else likes America.
Just so you know.- hammerpants, on 03/17/2008, -2/+4I like America.
- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6America doesn't like you.
- hammerpants, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2That hurts, right here.
- tolbs, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Hammerpants, ftw.
Stop....Hammertime.
- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6America doesn't like you.
- hammerpants, on 03/17/2008, -2/+4I like America.
- Teh1337Pirate, on 03/17/2008, -6/+4They are just athletes, it's not like the contribute to anything other than entertainment. Just because one person from a country can swim faster than the others isn't going to cure cancer or anything. Athletes are over paid retards who can't really make it in the real world actually working a job. Though those who participate in the Olympics don't get paid as much as the main stream athletes they still don't contribute to society.
- wacomwacoff, on 03/17/2008, -1/+4You're such a fool. Ever hear about the idea of "inspiration"? It's what happens when a country can celebrate and compete on a world stage without going to war. That's what the Olympics are all about... not earning money.
- thtjebus, on 03/17/2008, -2/+5i signed in just to digg you down
- wacomwacoff, on 03/17/2008, -5/+2"Borings"?
I guess you don't like achievment or international celebration. You poor simple man. - mlbman11, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1Athletes train and work their entire lives just to represent their country in these games. Especially countries like Cuba. Because they're communist, there is no alternative to playing for your national team.
I think that watching athletes who put everything on the line for that one moment is fun.
You can't say that if you had the oppurtunity to go back to 1980 that you wouldn't watch the USA-USSR hockey game. It goes much deeper than just athletic play, it's representing your entire nation. - cyclistjimbo, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1haha wow you comment helped me to realize i do not fit in with this site!
- stilesja, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3The thing is, the olympic coverage is outdated in the internet connected world. When you can get news of the winners instantly you don't need to see the taped replay of the action. One channel can only cover so much. Internet streaming of live events is the only way to go.
- FreddieD, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2I know you guys are beating the hell out of him with your comments, but for those of you not from the United States, the winter olympics got CRUSHED in the ratings by American Idol two years ago. Let me repeat, the best athletes in the entire world who train vigorously for four years for this event was well outdistanced in the ratings by a TV show where the same teeny-bopper-looking kids sing songs and then get voted on.
Perhaps it was NBC not properly marketing the event, or perhaps it was typical american "not my country or my sport so not gonna watch", but something went very wrong somewhere.- randomstupid, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1So what if Americans/Russians/Eskimos didn't watch it ? If you like it, watch it; if you don't, go Singstar yourself.
- bingobongony, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2The winter olympics ALWAYS gets far fewer viewers than the summer Olympics in the US. The sports are mainly non-American sports since the powerhouses in Europe and even Canada have far more wintry weather and therefore are more into those sports.
And you are also exaggerating the low ratings from two years ago. One of the reasons why the ratings for NBC were so low is becuase people were watching the OTHER NBC channels that were carrying other events. Whereas in the past, someone who wanted to watch the Olympics would have had to watch the network fed, even if it was not necessarily a sport that they otherwise would want to watch, 2 year ago they had 4-5 other choices on CNBC, MSNBC, Bravo, USA, etc. Take the combined viewers of all those and the ratigns were fine.
- jesus8mypoptart, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1Your stupid, even if you feel the Olympics are boring there is a bigger picture here. You stupid little ignorant fool, people are being murdered by corrupt governments all over the world and all people like you do is sit on your ass eating twinkies talking ***** on the internet. Get a life
- bingobongony, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1Why? Because you are too uncoordianted to play any sport? Want to see boring as *****? Check your own Digg history. Maybe you should get out o hte house a little more.
- kwyoo, on 03/21/2008, -0/+0Sports are boring.
:) - w3v3, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1To those saying that I am what's wrong with America and ignorant, would you care to notice that I'm Australian?
- Electric_Sheep, on 03/17/2008, -22/+5I logged in just to digg you up.
- chris9902, on 03/17/2008, -20/+140This has the same ring to it as the 1936 Berlin Olympics. It's a showpiece for a military power.
The international community should not support China in anyway.- vwerf, on 03/17/2008, -5/+13With the Berlin Olympics, we (Jesse Owens) proved that their was no Nazi 'Surperace'. But its not like we are helping anyone by supporting the Bejing Olympics, except maybe China's own 'Superathletes'. Who have been shot up with more HGH and steroids than any West German could dream of.
By supporting the Olympics every country involved turns their back on the outcries for justice from the martyrs that the Chinese government has silenced.
Damn us all if we do nothing!!!- punkcat, on 03/17/2008, -4/+2dont know about you but i didnt need proof.
- walugi, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3Isn't this just a typical American view on the rest of the world.
Chinese athletes don't train hard, they just take drugs! Whereas great US athletes such as Marion Jones just do it through good ol American hard work. You ***** either think they train too hard and beat the kids or train not hard enough and take drugs.
No wonder the whole world thinks the US is a piece of *****, with retards like you representing your apparent national views.
- isaactwito, on 03/17/2008, -2/+10I just got a message from a friend who is in the center of tibetan resistance in india. She said that they already are wiretapping all phones in tibet, so any outgoing calls result in you being raided and probably imprisoned, tortured or killed. According to some of the monks she's talked to shelling has already started in some places in tibet, and if protests aren't completely disbanded by tonight they're going to start indiscriminately killing anyone who is around the protest areas. This news has to get out. It is outrageous that we haven't had any of our politicians stepping forward responding to the outcries of these people.
- Spudster, on 03/17/2008, -2/+4Those who were around for the boycotting of the 1980's Summer games will tell you that it only accomplished damaging the hopes and dreams of the athletes who weren't allowed to compete. Haggle and play armchair diplomacy with other nations all you want, but don't ***** over every hard working athlete who have trained years to compete in these upcoming Olympic games. If you want to get serious about China, use economic policies with some muscle behind them and stop bothering us with silly symbolic gestures that only harm the athletes who deserve their opportunity to compete.
- isaactwito, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1When people have been tortured and killed by the chinese government for decades now, I don't think it's a silly ***** gesture. Athletes won't die if they don't compete, Tibetans will if we don't ***** stop china.
- vwerf, on 03/17/2008, -5/+13With the Berlin Olympics, we (Jesse Owens) proved that their was no Nazi 'Surperace'. But its not like we are helping anyone by supporting the Bejing Olympics, except maybe China's own 'Superathletes'. Who have been shot up with more HGH and steroids than any West German could dream of.
- davidwasman, on 03/17/2008, -35/+17Calls for boycotts. Calls for the head of a soldier who threw a puppy. Calls from Anon to stop Scient-lol-ogy...
yet no one does a damn thing about ending or protesting this frakkin war.- badqat, on 03/17/2008, -3/+16Because you're too busy defending the Galactica, right?
- davidwasman, on 03/17/2008, -17/+3Actually, no. I was in Washington last week. As for the 'frakkin'--Digg bans users for using profanity, so I'm being safe.
- 1timeuser, on 03/17/2008, -1/+23yeah, ***** digg is always banning people for profanity.
- davidwasman, on 03/17/2008, -10/+2 I know if for a fact because I know at least 3 users who are on second accounts.
- gofalcons, on 03/17/2008, -3/+3WTF are you talking about robinohio?
- alex7575, on 03/17/2008, -7/+8Yeah, ***** profanity, gets you ***** banned from this ***** website, that's a God damned *****, ***** licking fact. All you mother ***** are just really ***** naive not to ***** see that, and not because some ***** is being a ***** ***** to other people that gets them ***** banned.
***** you. - alex7575, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7errr, I see people are digging down my comment above. Just to be clear, I was trying to make a point, digg me down all you want, but please don't mark me as offensive, because THAT will get one banned...
- Freaknik, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1***** ***** ***** ***** *****.
- 1timeuser, on 03/17/2008, -1/+23yeah, ***** digg is always banning people for profanity.
- davidwasman, on 03/17/2008, -17/+3Actually, no. I was in Washington last week. As for the 'frakkin'--Digg bans users for using profanity, so I'm being safe.
- racco, on 03/17/2008, -4/+1what war?
- webefools, on 03/17/2008, -3/+1i think he's talking about the iraq war... and we have been protesting... the whole world has been... and for years...
- davidwasman, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3I saw bigger turnouts during Iraq War 1 protests and that was when the country was having a love affair with the troops for fear they would be another Vietnam generation...left behind by their own countrymen.
Sure, I see outrage ONLINE, but I don't see it in the streets. This war is immensely less popular but it seems less people want to do anything about it.- senatorpjt, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1There was a lot more before the war began. It eventually became clear to most sane people that the administration didn't care what anyone thought, and there was nothing anyone could do about it.
- davidwasman, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3I saw bigger turnouts during Iraq War 1 protests and that was when the country was having a love affair with the troops for fear they would be another Vietnam generation...left behind by their own countrymen.
- chris1012, on 03/17/2008, -2/+3I don't understand why your comment was buried.
BTW Battlestar Galactica ftw. - geddon, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1No doubt. Please feel free to point your boycotts towards the Federal Reserve and your DoS attacks towards the Dept of Homeland Security. That is where the real problems exist in the United Corporations of America. (And yes, BSG pwns!)
- TrevorBelmont, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1I agree with davidwasman. These Cylons are out of control.
- badqat, on 03/17/2008, -3/+16Because you're too busy defending the Galactica, right?
- buhbyebot, on 03/17/2008, -8/+60This should not stand from the world community. Where is the ***** outcry!?
The Olympic Rings (Link)
http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-07/olymp ...
Origin: Designed in 1913 by Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the five rings represent the five regions of the world that participated in the Olympics: Africa, the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Oceania. While the individual rings do not symbolize any single continent, the five colors - red, blue, green, yellow, and black - were chosen because at least one of them is found on the flag of every nation. The plain white background is symbolic of peace.- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -7/+1Yes but its ok for Bush and his illegal invasion of Iraq though right.
- topiKal, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5I was wondering how far down it would be before I saw another whiny Bush comment.
Apparently, not far at all.
- topiKal, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5I was wondering how far down it would be before I saw another whiny Bush comment.
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 03/17/2008, -2/+10China is now Americas banker. So the US will not do anything to piss them off.
Boycott ain't gonna happen.- Nerfdude, on 03/17/2008, -2/+4it's about time to rob the bank.
- lotu, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1amen to that we can solve the outsourcing and national debt problems at once.
- iFrikkenR, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Well if enough other countries do it then the US not doing it won't matter and China/US diplomacy will still stand
The US is only 1 of 193 countries that compete
- Nerfdude, on 03/17/2008, -2/+4it's about time to rob the bank.
- Spudster, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3It's easy to play hardball with small countries like Cuba and Iraq as they pose little economic threat. China however, is a MUCH DIFFERENT story.
- BigLLamasHouse, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1they need our money more than we need their trinkets
- jmcmullin, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0We need their money Big L, they just see us as stupid customers.....Bush mortgaged the house so his sponsors could make money off the War in Iraq...........blame Bush and every *****(if your poor) or genius(if your rich) who voted for Bush/Cheney and then re-elected them....it's not really China's fault, we made our bed and now we're sleeping in it.
- BigLLamasHouse, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1they need our money more than we need their trinkets
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -7/+1Yes but its ok for Bush and his illegal invasion of Iraq though right.
- db0255, on 03/17/2008, -45/+3I don't get why Australia is really good at protesting. I guess that's what I would do if I were on an island with nothing else to do...
- poidh, on 03/17/2008, -0/+25"On an island"? Dude, they have their own continent down there to play with.
- saggygrandma, on 03/17/2008, -1/+17well someone is too ignorant to know what happens outside their trailer park.
- db0255, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1i like how you assume that people that live in trailer parks are ignorant.
- tullyr, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7Are we good at protesting? We've been sending Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior out to the whalers for decades, but there was no international attention until an american boat joined in.. a boat called "Steve Irwin". it was named after a guy that half of Australia didn't even know, we rarely show "The Crocodile Hunter" here.
We protested like crazy over the Iraq war, but gave up as soon as it started for all intents and purposes. Just like the rest of the world. My personal theory is that a simple march or protest is meaningless today. Back when it had power you were doing something shameful, offensive, or rebellious when you took to the streets. These days we'll take to the streets to get a bus lane turned back into a normal car lane on a side-street (honestly, we have).
Our protests are toothless and the government knew it. It took 11 years of momentum to go from a neo-con hard right-wing government to what we have now - an unproven left-centrist government. They're listening to the polls now, while they get their feet, but we dont know whether they will show any real interest in collective action. Then, if we do take to the streets again, who's going to take us seriously?- Exarchos, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1On the topic of taking things seriously, I hope you don't expect anyone to do that with your post.
- buhbyebot, on 03/17/2008, -11/+22Island? It's "roughly the same size as the United States". That's not an island.
http://www.chapelaustralianbiketours.com/bikes.htm ...
I could find something to do to keep me busy down there as well. Some of the finest people I've ever met are from there.- buhbyebot, on 03/17/2008, -4/+5^ Meant to reply to db0255...
- Jonno549, on 03/17/2008, -0/+7We are an island, just a really big one. Island simply means that we are separated from all other countries by water. The USA is a lot bigger than Australia, but there's still heaps to do here, and it's a pretty cool place to be.
- MaxPayne3476, on 03/17/2008, -0/+11It's still an island. Just a gigantic one.
Australia is fun but there is that issue of
::People::~~~~~~NOTHING~~~~~~::People::
But they do have Corey Worthington- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3You could say that about EVERY continent.
- Railz, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Not the India sub-continent ;p
- xaxxon, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3You could say that about EVERY continent.
- GoldenPearl, on 03/17/2008, -2/+3A big Island is still an island. Having cool animals doesn't change that.
- Exarchos, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1... What exactly is the problem with being an island? Am I missing something here? I'd say being an island nation has many more advantages than being one bordered by other countries. Quarantine, customs and easier control of illegal immigration, just to name a few benefits.
- aidave, on 03/17/2008, -17/+65Can't wait for the 2008 Slavery Games!
- dracflamloc, on 03/17/2008, -0/+8This was well-documented in Gladiator.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -8/+4hosted by the US
- walugi, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Nah that's the Torture Games. They run basically every year in the US
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2This year my money's on the Pakistan team to clean up in the 500 yard electrodes-on-the-testicles relay.
- walugi, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Nah that's the Torture Games. They run basically every year in the US
- UnterDenLinden, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1Yes! Let's deny all these athletes who have been training for this event for 4 years the ability to compete because of some some political nonsense. Sports and politics should never mix. Ever.
- o0joshua0o, on 03/17/2008, -7/+34Now I feel guilty for playing "Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games".
- Freaknik, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7As well you should.
- twertyto, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1YOU BASTARD!
- allfatherblack, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Mario is well known for his bigotry.
- jimmyleeca, on 03/25/2008, -0/+0do you not feel guilty that right below your house, there may be a native indian corpse that your great great grandfather killed to build your house? Hypocrite!
- satori3000, on 03/17/2008, -7/+34After the Boycott of the Olympics in 1980 for the Russian games after the invasion of Afghanistan it's fairly clear that a boycott really only impacts the athletes. Still, given the massive investment that the Chinese have made into these current games this may in fact finally be a good time to do this if we want to make our displeasure known.
- shuron01, on 03/17/2008, -9/+8The World should boycott US after innervating Afghanistan now.
- MaxPayne3476, on 03/17/2008, -3/+6Umm... few people really are against the war in Afgahnistan. It actually did some good to the country. Our biggest mistake was turning it over to NATO and the UN where corruption and the Taliban are starting to sink back in.
- sman5612, on 03/17/2008, -1/+9Our mistake was staying there and then invading Iraq
- Spudster, on 03/17/2008, -4/+1Yeah, I think you're mistaking NATO and the UN with America invading Iraq.
Also, in other countries where people didn't have the problem of convincing everyone that the Iraq war was a bad idea, such as in Canada, there is significant opposition to the war in Afghanistan.
- MaxPayne3476, on 03/17/2008, -3/+6Umm... few people really are against the war in Afgahnistan. It actually did some good to the country. Our biggest mistake was turning it over to NATO and the UN where corruption and the Taliban are starting to sink back in.
- Bhima, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2I don't remember how many people boycotted the 1980 Olympics (was it just the Americas?) However I think the fact that this is news all over the US (I think) and the EU (I know) and hopefully elsewhere... this is more important... Getting people thinking about what is going on. Having them questioning things...
- bingobongony, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Having half of the world's best athletes not show up in 1984 didn't hurt the American economy one bit.
- br0pbr0p, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Well, this "massive investment" is funded by the U.S. anyways. The way the export works, they will make it back in a few years.
- shuron01, on 03/17/2008, -9/+8The World should boycott US after innervating Afghanistan now.
- webefools, on 03/17/2008, -9/+44A huge crowd here protesting in front of the chinese consulate here in nyc... i'm going to join them today!
- dartmanx, on 03/17/2008, -8/+6Excellent... make sure to wear face masks and call yourself "Anonymous"... oh wait, wrong repressive regime.
- Wrangler76, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2I'm kind of surprised that this is generating a lot of protests in other countries. A violent mob loots stores, burns fire trucks, and beats innocent people because they are of a different ethnicity. You people support this crap? There are better ways to "protest" than to harm innocents.
- longman, on 03/17/2008, -9/+63Here's an idea... Stop borrowing money from china. Stop your companys from investing in china.
Sure, its a nice symbolic reaction with the olympics, but that is all it is...- eddy23170, on 03/17/2008, -1/+21boycot Walmart, in other words...
- Freaknik, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1With America constantly sucking off walmarts tit going in this recession? Doubtful, but needed.
- Schmich, on 03/17/2008, -0/+6I'm really not an expert in the field but due to having borrowed so much money couldn't China screw the US over a lot more?
- tullyr, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4China don't just have a huge amount of the USA's debt, they also have massive stockpiles of US currency. They could flood the market and crash the dollar whenever it suited them. The talk of China as an emerged superpower is more than rhetoric.
- CarStan, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4Oh the irony: Socialism didnt work, so China uses capitalism to crush capitalism and achieve communism. IThey used reverse psychology on the USA and it worked.
I hope the recent events let people remember that china is by far the most powerful non-democratic natoin in the world. - br0pbr0p, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Yeah but they wouldn't. U.S. is still useful for generating income. Plus bringing down the U.S. market will kill the other world markets too.
- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1It's called reciprocity. Neither country wants to screw the other over.
- enigmaneo, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2I'd much prefer a symbolic reactions seeing how our economy is so closely tied with the Chinese economy that by trying to screw over China's economy we would screw ourselves as well.
- senatorpjt, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1Our economy is already screwed, no better time than the present.
- roosterjm2k2, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2Yes, please do. After all, it would only collapse the chinese economy..so only the rich and powerful leaders would be effected...not the everyday guy onteh street, right?
- eddy23170, on 03/17/2008, -1/+21boycot Walmart, in other words...
- Phlex330, on 03/17/2008, -25/+11Tibet was run by tyrannical dictators and Elites prior to Chinas intervention. Digg me down but I think they are better off this way... why do you even care. solve our countries problems, let them sort out their own bull *****.
- philhatesyou, on 03/17/2008, -7/+6The problem with your answer is it doesn't make us all feel like the smug assholes that we want to be.
- funkyjunk3, on 03/17/2008, -3/+6tyrannical dictators eh? I would say the current regime in Tibet is more akin to that. When every native Tibetan has to look behind their back to see if a chinese guard is looking at them, they have to censor their own thoughts for fear of "subverting" against the Chinese Govn't, people are thrown in jail for not agreeing with the government... That sounds quite tyrannical to me.
- Petrarch1603, on 03/17/2008, -2/+4it is nice to see a different view point on this. The old tibetan system was feudal and many were born in the lower castes (untouchables) with no hopes of moving up. Tibetans were trained by the CIA during the cold war, but Richard gere donates money to them so i guess they're cool.
- Chupacabra82, on 03/17/2008, -4/+17what a poorly written article.
they pull in obama and talk about him...yet he doesn't ask for a boycott of the olympics. richard gere talked about a possible boycott, but no *****....it's richard gere. other than that, there are some grumblings about a possible boycott, but the headline just comes off as sensationalist.- puter, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1The games never should have been hosted there anyway based on their actions.
i recognize that it was an attempt to bring them into the international community, but they obviously have no intention of changing their behaviour. They've been brutal for years, I don't know why the decision was made to host there in the first place. I think the athletes should refuse to take part in the Olympics, that would force the governments to reconsider.
- puter, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1The games never should have been hosted there anyway based on their actions.
- aakurt, on 03/17/2008, -11/+6AND boycott China's products to ....
- inn0, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5Uhh 40% of US consumer products are from China. Do you have ANY idea what would happen to the price of pretty much everything if there was a boycott? Everything in this country is made in China - the screws your couch is assembled with (maybe your whole couch), the combination lock you use at your gym (there is a city in China that produces about 25% of the world's combination locks), the underwiring in your mum's bra, the hinges on your door, the silverware you eat with. If you typed that ill-informed post on a ThinkPad, you already ***** up - IBM sold that to Lenovo, a Chinese company.
- Kaiyu, on 03/17/2008, -25/+13American Propaganda at its best!
Why would any american talk about "human rights" after Iraq?
And in another country? Stop being the world police already.
I know I am gonna get dugg down, coz mainstream diggers are influenced by the media and such..You know what? I don't care.
Go ahead and digg me down! Ignorance is bliss people.- WikiEasy, on 03/17/2008, -7/+4Are you just a mouth piece for the PRC? First of all, the American government did nothing to instigate this brutal event. Second, the outrage is world-wide.
Spin it all you want. The truth is still the truth. "Ignorance is bliss" applies to people like you, not us. - funkyjunk3, on 03/17/2008, -1/+4The wars in Iraq/Afghanistan are about the lest popular thing here on Digg. This is a VERY anti-Bush crowd, so coming here and calling us hypocrites for not discussing the tragedies in Iraq/Afganistan is ignorance. Enjoy your virtual beef, cypher.
- TrevorBelmont, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4You are both condescending and under informed.
- WikiEasy, on 03/17/2008, -7/+4Are you just a mouth piece for the PRC? First of all, the American government did nothing to instigate this brutal event. Second, the outrage is world-wide.
- scififan9009, on 03/17/2008, -7/+15http://digg.com/pets_animals/Inside_Beijing_s_shoc ...
I was already boycotting the Olympics. - DarthVox, on 03/17/2008, -15/+16Why just Tibet, which comprises 1% of the population. FREE CHINA from the CCP should be the better term. Besides, why WOULDN'T the police be cracking down on mobs beating up innocent civilians and burning down shops which apparently belonged to a different ethnic group
- dougRogers, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1Digged up because of the slogan 'Fee China from the CCP!'
- tullyr, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7Last time I was in Beijing I watched the police single out negros outside a major club at Sanlitun and beat them senseless, then drag a bunch of them away. Tourists, ex-pat workers and diplomats' children were all involved. There was no reporting, just a sign hung over the street the next day. It said in mandarin "No mercy for criminals".
There were rumours that some of them may have been drug dealers, but many were confirmed to have been innocent bystanders. This is Chinese justice.- Wrangler76, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Your random story full of speculation is dugg up but darthvox's isn't. Goddamnit digg....
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1I've heard much worse than that happening to black people in China.
Dear God, the last thing in the world I would ever want to be is a Nigerian living in Beijing. *shudder*
- jc801, on 03/17/2008, -4/+1FREE IRAQ, and because people are dumb and only read headlines but not the actual story and even so don't know anything about the history of the matter.
- mnewhook, on 03/17/2008, -11/+17So... where are the reports in that biased article about the Tibetans targeting and killing native Chinese in Lasa over the last few days?
Isn't ironic that the Tibetans are fighting for their freedom, and the Iraqis are terrorists?- Bhima, on 03/17/2008, -6/+3Native (Han) Chinese in Lassa is an oxymoron.
- DarthVox, on 03/17/2008, -4/+7And so is a white European in America or Australia, hypocrite.
- basevillin, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1The terrorists in Iraq are foreign fighters.
- RareSaturn, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1Gee I must have missed the news reports of Tibeten suicide bombers blowing up markets and temples.
- Bhima, on 03/17/2008, -6/+3Native (Han) Chinese in Lassa is an oxymoron.
- dizilbdog, on 03/17/2008, -4/+29You know boycotting china and the olympics i'll try, but honestly i've looked around my apt and I don't know if anything is built in America anymore, and that's sort of sad..
- dartmanx, on 03/17/2008, -1/+10Okay, "America" refers to alot more than the United States. Yes, it's quibbling, but I need to point that out in the context of what I want to say.
The United States is (slowly) shifting from a manufacturing economy to a service based economy. This is because the laws of economics state that the lowest price wins.
The only way we are going to "win" is to encourage a shift of cheap manufacturing from China to another low cost area. Maybe "Made in China" can become "Made in Namibia" (which would help improve the sh*thole that is 90% of the African continent, but thats another story).- slantyeyed, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2well if all you do is shift to cheap workers in other developing countries, you're going to have to fix the govt's of all those other developing countries too because sooner or later, you're going to run out of developing countries to put sweat shops in.
- theviceroy, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Isn't the point of ethical globalization to "run out of developing countries" after a point, as all of the countries become "developed"? Did it ever occur to you that a better economy leads to less human rights abuses?
- slantyeyed, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2well if all you do is shift to cheap workers in other developing countries, you're going to have to fix the govt's of all those other developing countries too because sooner or later, you're going to run out of developing countries to put sweat shops in.
- dartmanx, on 03/17/2008, -1/+10Okay, "America" refers to alot more than the United States. Yes, it's quibbling, but I need to point that out in the context of what I want to say.
- ufia, on 03/17/2008, -15/+2I call for a boycott of the Beijing Olympics unless they introduce the throwing a puppy off a cliff competition. The winner gets to BBQ his puppy and eat it.
- tman84, on 03/17/2008, -16/+10Where are all the "progressives" saying we must be tolerant of China's culture? Or do they not have the conviction to say it so they just respond with "America is bad too, George Bush Iraq Oil"
- BrewBeau, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3There's a difference between a culture and government oppression. Nobody is saying the Chinese should stop being Chinese. It's their human rights violations and silencing of dissent that's the problem. I don't think we should intervene militarily, but we could stop supporting their child labor for cheap products.
- gothrus, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Where are all of the "conservatives" saying that Communists are evil, godless, anti-american oppressors? I guess they retired on the huge pile of money they made exploiting cheap "Communist" labor.
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- Marvelboy, on 03/17/2008, -4/+1Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V
Repeat- twertyto, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Thanks for the protip.
- warrensil, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3***** you.
- SinbadGallucci, on 03/17/2008, -0/+6Wall of ignorance crits you for 8000. You die.
- Zarokima, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3Don't worry, I know what to do. I'm a cleric. *rolls die to see if Life works*
A ONE‽ Sorry, looks like you're staying dead. - twertyto, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1Which one of us ITT has the soulstone buff?
- Zarokima, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3Don't worry, I know what to do. I'm a cleric. *rolls die to see if Life works*
- phlux, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4you're an idiot for confusing racist sentiment with political outcry.
***** CHINA, yes - but chinks they are not - nor should anyone use racist terms...
This is about opression of humans of the same (relatively) genetic material - so its moronic to call chinese chinks in support of Tibet.
Its GOVERNMENTS the world overthat need to tart taking heed. People will not stand for this much longer... there is a fuel burning now and its about people against control and lack of freedom. Race has nothing to do with it.
America is run by white fascists
Russia is run by white tyrants
china is run by chinese murderers
pakistan by, well you get the idea....
government and greed and power are the problem.
- yish, on 03/17/2008, -11/+2http://apps.facebook.com/causes/causes/18271?faceb ...
- thestrangeguy, on 03/17/2008, -21/+15China is f*cked
But America does more damage to the world
AMERICANS, FIGHT YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT!- scififan9009, on 03/17/2008, -2/+7A HUGE part of the problem lies with attitudes like this. Yes, there are other injustices in the world. Yes, other countries are mucking things up and hurting people and causing loss of human and animal life, and destroying the environment. You know what? Trying to cross reference them all and comparing them to each other isn't going to get you *****. Injustice is injustice, what's wrong is wrong. This article is about the injustice and brutality in Tibet. Decide what you believe in, pick a cause, and then stand up for your beliefs and do something about it.
- funkyjunk3, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3*applause*
Just because the American Govn't decides to invade two countries doesn't right the Chinese invasion/occupation of Tibet. I despise the Iraq/Afganistan wars as every bit as much as I hate to see Tibet be occupied by China.- Akronos, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2It isn't just two countries. It's two countries halfway around the world whereas China is invading a neighbor. Just saying. I despise all acts of aggression, but some more than others.
- funkyjunk3, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3*applause*
- scififan9009, on 03/17/2008, -2/+7A HUGE part of the problem lies with attitudes like this. Yes, there are other injustices in the world. Yes, other countries are mucking things up and hurting people and causing loss of human and animal life, and destroying the environment. You know what? Trying to cross reference them all and comparing them to each other isn't going to get you *****. Injustice is injustice, what's wrong is wrong. This article is about the injustice and brutality in Tibet. Decide what you believe in, pick a cause, and then stand up for your beliefs and do something about it.
- shuron01, on 03/17/2008, -14/+10Don't watch TV American TV! ;) Start reading books !;)
- jmcmullin, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0what the hell is TV American TV?.....is it possible to type with an accent?
- Raian, on 03/17/2008, -8/+26While we're at it can we please boycott China in general? The US was quick to boycott Cuba at the advice of self interested Cuban-Americans... yet China itself is a far greater economic and military threat than Cuba ever was. Boycott China!
- MaxPayne3476, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3We boycotted Cuba because of their ties with the Soviet Union. We almost blew them to ***** until Kennedy decided against it. What's your point?
Soviet Union > China ~ Military Threat- Raian, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1And to this day an embargo exists-- which really should be applied to China. America was not in a trade deficit with the USSR during the cold war-- China is a greater threat to America because of their hand in the American economy, they also have a much greater population which could make them a formidable foe. As the world has seen... America is great at fighting high tech wars... but utterly fails when things get down to the streets on a one to one combat level.
- Akronos, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3It's easy to embargo a third world nation. It's hard to do the same with a rising super power.
But yes, we can boycott them. It'll have to be a consumer movement however. - crabman484, on 03/17/2008, -3/+1So... why isn't anybody calling to boycott Japan or Korea? Aren't they mutilating animals? Aren't they oppressing their own native peoples? Aren't they responsible for causing a great amount of air pollution as well as China? I mean I don't even have to mention what their electronics and auto industries have done to American ones.
What's with all this China hate?- Raian, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1Japan is a modern nation-- probably much more so than the US. South Korea is also a 1st world nation-- and is quite modern... although it carries with it some social issues. North Korea is a huge issue-- and does have an embargo on it-- but aid is given to the country because it is so poor.
I think you have a gross misconception of Japan and South Korea. China on the other hand, is marked with massive social issues, massive political problems, is massively exploitative, massively polluting, and is probably one of the most miserable, backwards places on earth-- with an obsessive compulsion towards greed at any expense even if it means killing yourself in the process. China is an ignorant country, that has been given a lot of luck and power because it is exploitative and that is good for the bottom line of companies that want to outsource labour.- crabman484, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Hm... I see.
So you're saying that since Japan and Korea are modern nations it's O.K. for them to oppress their people. It's fine that they hunt whales, drive dolphins, eat cats and dogs, have horse fights, refuse ethnic groups rights because they're modern right? - jmcmullin, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0I'm surprised you can spell ***** Japan, but hey just say Korea to talk about both countries, hell they all probably speak the Asian language right?
- crabman484, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Hm... I see.
- Raian, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1Japan is a modern nation-- probably much more so than the US. South Korea is also a 1st world nation-- and is quite modern... although it carries with it some social issues. North Korea is a huge issue-- and does have an embargo on it-- but aid is given to the country because it is so poor.
- br0pbr0p, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Sure, but you might want to fix the economy first because things will get pricey.
- MaxPayne3476, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3We boycotted Cuba because of their ties with the Soviet Union. We almost blew them to ***** until Kennedy decided against it. What's your point?
- pigfister, on 03/17/2008, -9/+4china is what America and the uk are modelling themselves on, do you really think they will boycott anything?
- bingobongony, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1And now you have no credibility anymore. Nice job.
- mangomilk, on 03/17/2008, -18/+5Why is everyone so ignorant these days? China LIBERATED Tibet many decades ago, go check up the CONDITIONS Tibet was in BEFORE China saved its ass. People starved their faces off and there were no basic amenities whatsoever. They now have electricity and at least everyone isn't subjected to ABJECT POVERTY. So Palestinians wanting freedom are TERRORISTS, and Tibetians wanting the richer Chinese in their society out are FREEDOM-FIGHTERS? You guys have got to know more about the world before commenting about it. Such ignorant fricks.
- liuite, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7This is typical Chinese mentality...telling the rest of the world Tibet is better off under oppressive Chinese rule
- lonewolfe, on 03/17/2008, -2/+2well maybe it is
im not saying the oppresive chinese are the greatest but before being ruled by the chinese tibet wasn't any better (maybe even worse)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet#European_contac ...
"Despite the mutual agreement, the British expedition did take the lives of a few thousand unprepared Tibetan soldiers and civilians. The biggest massacre took place on March 31, 1904 at a mountain pass halfway to Gyantse near a village called Guru. Colonel Younghusband tricked the 2,000 Tibetan soldiers guarding the pass into extinguishing the burning ropes of their basic rifles before firing at them with the Maxim machine guns and rifles. The Tibetan casualty, according to Younghusband’s account, was “500 killed and wounded.” [42] Others have claimed that the Tibetan casualty was as high as 1,300.
According to the British, their intention was to disarm Tibetan soldiers who were being surrounded. The slaughter was triggered by the Tibetans who fired the first shot. [43] But the accounts of those who pulled the triggers make it clear that the British had the intention of killing as many as possible. “From three sides at once a withering volley of magazine fire crashed into the crowded mass of Tibetans,” wrote Perceval Landon. “Under the appalling punishment of lead, they [the Tibetans] staggered, failed and ran…Men dropped at every yard.” [44]"
- lonewolfe, on 03/17/2008, -2/+2well maybe it is
- Bhima, on 03/17/2008, -3/+6All of the above is untrue... It's such blatant Han propaganda I'm not even going to bother refuting it.
- Xanadude, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2And now the Tibetans are enslaved by the Han Chinese who are brought in by the trainload to take all the good government jobs and own the best commercial locations. I don't see how the Tibetans are any better off, and now their culture is being systematically eradicated.
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Just like we liberated Iraq!
Good comparison. 10 points.
Also Palestinians are freedom fighters, you wank.
- liuite, on 03/17/2008, -1/+7This is typical Chinese mentality...telling the rest of the world Tibet is better off under oppressive Chinese rule
- paintpro, on 03/17/2008, -13/+16I was like, "***** that I want to watch the Olympics!" Then I saw Richard Gere, the Hollywood actor, says we should boycott. So I have completely changed my mind.
- fracaso089, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6i too, believe that we should all model our lives and opinions on the wise Richard Gere
- jyac, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2richard gere??? lol
- jc801, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5haha, you and just about every american has done the same
- randomstupid, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4Actors are better than most people at EVERYTHING
- dhughes, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4 Isn't being a rich and famous Buddhist about as opposite to Bhuddism as you can be?
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Is now a good time to tell my gerbil story?
- fracaso089, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6i too, believe that we should all model our lives and opinions on the wise Richard Gere
- sfacets, on 03/17/2008, -7/+4Yep, not attending/watching the olympics this year.
- robocop1, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Like that will make a difference.
- randomstupid, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1yeah, my vote won't make a difference either
- robocop1, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Like that will make a difference.
- smcnow, on 03/17/2008, -9/+33If you want to do your part, boycott the sponsors (http://www.usolympicteam.com/12956.htm):
The Coca-Cola Company
Atos Origin
The Eastman Kodak Company
GE
John Hancock
Johnson & Johnson
Lenovo
McDonald's
Omega
Panasonic
Samsung
Visa- nirav72, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4I thought Lenovo was a chinese company after IBM sold it their notebook division?
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1They were Chinese before that, too.
- Aerandir, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5I can Boycott everything but my Visa, sorry.
And GE? well, almost a third of all things we use everyday is GE related, so i'm not that sure about that one either...- Railz, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1GE is the largest provider of Engines to the USAN, so they really don't care about the normal consumer.
- Pritchard, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3I think you just listed half of the US Economy there. Coca-Cola and McDonald's, oh, and Visa.
- SpectralSounds, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3Coke is delicious.
G.E. keeps my food cold among other things.
Johnson & Johnson products are used on my daughter
Samsung made my nice 4665F
Visa is used by me almost every day.
I'll boycott the rest.- iancgi, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1so all those things are more important than human rights and freedom?
- bingobongony, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Yeah...me not drinking Coke is really going to hurt China to the point of them becoming a benevolent democracy.
Oh wait...boycotting EVERY single advertiser of the Oympics won't hurt China one bit! Damn...that makes this idea idiotic. - br0pbr0p, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1Lmao, yeah, that makes sense. After these companies already paid China/IOC (or whatever the Olympic organization is called), we will boycott companies that will hurt our own economy but not China's. Brilliant!
- nirav72, on 03/17/2008, -0/+4I thought Lenovo was a chinese company after IBM sold it their notebook division?
- slicky803, on 03/17/2008, -4/+12I'm not sure why Richard Gere's opinion, whether right or wrong, is newsworthy or worth paying attention to. Everyone's got an opinion... his means as much to me as, say, Tonya Harding's.
- porkdanish, on 03/17/2008, -1/+0I hear Tonya Harding is for Chinese Martial Law in Tibet -- she'd sending her boyfriend over there to straighten that Dali Lama guy out right now.
- footfwd, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Not sure if you know but Richard Gere considers himself a Buddhist, and has vistied Tibet and the Dali Lama (yes in India i know) many, many times.
- Zera, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Good Point, Richard Gere is clearly biased and therefore a less reliable source than Tonya Harding.
- kankan6469, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1He is a rare individual who knows about Tibet and the people.
I saw lots or posts on internet where Chinese find out Americans criticizing about Tibet and arguing if they have ever been to Tibet and know anything about it.
Richard Gere seems to be entitled to say something about Tibet in their opinion. - jmcmullin, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0At least he has the balls to have a public opinion that's different than the norm. We listen to him because he's not bought and paid for, (ex. Bush, both Clintons, your boy Obama, and McCain) I don't necessarily agree with what he has to say, but it has some kind of impact because it's different. We're sitting here on Digg talking about it........so it made some kind of impact.
- kankan6469, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1He is a rare individual who knows about Tibet and the people.
- Zera, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1Good Point, Richard Gere is clearly biased and therefore a less reliable source than Tonya Harding.
- kmb1794, on 03/17/2008, -13/+5If the US had any balls they'd be at war with china instead of iraq
- khail250, on 03/17/2008, -1/+9why?
- cruzlee, on 03/17/2008, -6/+2coz.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6you are obviously a moron. big fan of fox?
- Spudster, on 03/17/2008, -1/+5Yeah because war is the solution to all of the problems of the world...
- ChanM, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2that makes sense bite the hand that supplies us with the majority of goods
- TinternAbbot, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2Why the hell would the United States want to wage war against China at this point? It would be suicide.
- khail250, on 03/17/2008, -1/+9why?
- nthug, on 03/17/2008, -2/+2its about time -- i've been saying this since they won the games
- khail250, on 03/17/2008, -2/+40before people start bashing china, lets not forget its the gov't, not the people.. its the same way here in the US, the people are mostly ok but the gov't is the reason the world hates us. i just came back from china, and met the friendliest people i have ever met.. its usually not the people rather the politicians.. Hitler, Stalin, Bush!
- pngpng, on 03/17/2008, -4/+2Yes, Bush has made many countries in the world hate the US, this is very sad, and dangerous to its people.
Yes, as any government is the world, Chinese gov't is not always doing good, but mostly ok. BUT on the issue of Tibet incident this time, CNN and some other media told, consciously or unconsciously, an untrue story. If you really want to know what's going on there in Tibet, ask a friend witnessed the event, don't just listen to media.- jmcmullin, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0Ok, i'll ask my friends who go Hong Kong or Macau, what they did when they stopped in the Mainland and Tibet......i'll just ignore the pictures I see from the media.........Man, ***** China!
- EdwardsNH, on 03/17/2008, -5/+2Ok, you had me till you put Bush in the same league as Stalin and Hitler. He is one of the worst leaders America has ever seen, but he doesn't even come in the top 20 for psycho leaders in the world today, never mind the last 100 years.
- ken0624700, on 03/17/2008, -3/+0Yeah he's not there yet but give him another 4 years or so he might just get there.
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -1/+1Sure he does. By any independent criteria you might want to use he's far worse than Saddam and Milosevic, at the very least.
- jmcmullin, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0I don't know what we're (Americans) crying about, we elected this bozo.
- jamessavik, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2Stalin and Hitler, using inferior technology, have a much bigger body count than George Junior.
- pngpng, on 03/17/2008, -4/+2Yes, Bush has made many countries in the world hate the US, this is very sad, and dangerous to its people.
- netsql, on 03/17/2008, -13/+14Wait, how many people died in Iraq?
- Carlix, on 03/17/2008, -5/+6We are not talking about Iraq here, so go somewhere else.
- rupaw, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2Exactely Carlix.... the question is, what are we doing with America if we boycott China for the problems in Tibet. Let's be consistent here... I guess a 100 year boycott of all American products would be in place, what do you think?
- bingobongony, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1SOOO glad I don't have your life. Or lack thereof.
- dopey99, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0Touched an American nerve there?
- Carlix, on 03/17/2008, -5/+6We are not talking about Iraq here, so go somewhere else.
- BN2L, on 03/17/2008, -6/+17From wikipedia,
'If the matter of Tibet's sovereignty is murky, the question about the PRC's treatment of Tibetans is all too clear. After invading Tibet in 1950, the Chinese communists killed over one million Tibetans, destroyed over 6,000 monasteries, and turned Tibet's northeastern province, Amdo, into a gulag housing, by one estimate, up to ten million people. A quarter of a million Chinese troops remain stationed in Tibet. In addition, some 7.5 million Chinese have responded to Beijing's incentives to relocate to Tibet; they now outnumber the 6 million Tibetans. Through what has been termed Chinese apartheid, ethnic Tibetans now have a lower life expectancy, literacy rate, and per capita income than Chinese inhabitants of Tibet.'
REF: Lasater, Martin L. & Conboy, Kenneth J. "Why the World Is Watching Beijing's Treatment of Tibet", Heritage Foundation, October 9, 1987.- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -5/+2that doesn't make any sense if the Chinese outnumber the tibetans that there wouldn't be any riots.
- j2002, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Isn;t this what the US did to Hawaii, now US citizens outnumber hawaiians and no-one cares anymore, give it 50 years an tibet will be the same.
- jmcmullin, on 03/19/2008, -0/+0nice parrallel...........sad but true
- Bleahdom, on 03/18/2008, -1/+2Right... they managed to kill over 15% of the population and the only people who have managed to notice and verify it are the Tibetans in exile.
- jimmyleeca, on 03/25/2008, -0/+0"the Chinese communists killed over one million Tibetans", there were only a little over 1 million tibetan in the 50s, the 5 million population now is a huge growth (400%) due to improvement in food and medical condition thanks to the chinese occupation. I wonder is this wikipedia entry written by the only one tietan spared by the chinese? And if most tibetans were killed, then the 5 million now should be offspring of other races, then why are there still so many tibetans? Should they all commit suicide to justify the "number" in their freedom fighter's claim to chinese occupation? Just curious.
- JointVenture, on 03/17/2008, -10/+3The reason not many people care about this is because they have not found a way to blame it on America yet.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5what are you talking about?
- BrewBeau, on 03/17/2008, -2/+1There are plenty of ways to blame this on America, actually. Mostly economic.
- an0nym0uz, on 03/17/2008, -0/+5what are you talking about?
- ratpH1nk, on 03/17/2008, -2/+6I am down for a boycott! Let's do it!
- dakong27, on 03/17/2008, -8/+16The Olympics should be boycotted anyway because of the corruption of the International Olympic Committee and the complete sellout of the games as purely a marketing vehicle. But yeah, with all that China has done to its people and occupied territories, the world should boycott the games especially because they're to be held there.
And having lived in China, lemme tell you there is none of this "oh it's just the government--the people are really nice!" nonsense. The people are just as nasty as the government. Ask anyone whether Tibet or Taiwan should be independent, and you'll see the most pugnacious ugliness emerge. Ask them about how they feel about the rest of the world generally, and you'll be treated to a whole littany of how everyone's always trying to beat up on China. 50% of the time, you'll even get people claiming that not only should Taiwan and Tibet not be independent, but Mongolia, Siberia, Southeast Asia, and Central Asia to the Caspian Sea should also belong to China.
They're a scary, expansionistic and hostile country, and mark my words they are 5 orders of magnitude more dangerous that Nazi Germany in the 1930's ever was.- Spudster, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6It's great to see you stereotype people in a country of over one billion people.
- dopke, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3True, although it isn't hard to stereotype a country where everyone is indoctrinated with the same methodology that China owns all of Asia and that Taiwanese and Tibetans are rebels that need to be put in place.
It seems to me that you haven't had any experience with Chinese when asked about Tibet/Taiwan. I'm a Taiwanese American, and I have a few friends/acquaintances that are Chinese. Whenever I am talking about Taiwan's sovereignty, whatever prior friendship we had goes out the window. They just stop reasoning at all and start spouting off the same things that the Chinese government teaches in school: "Taiwan is part of China, Taiwanese and Chinese are the same." This is why I never directly bring up this topic with them because it really goes nowhere.- Spudster, on 03/17/2008, -0/+3Keep in mind that as a part of having Taiwanese ancestry yourself, you may have a bias that may shape how you see people with Chinese ancestry as well. Whether it's true or not, it's damaging to stereotype the attitudes of people from other countries because it achieves nothing except promoting more hostility towards a situation that needs more cooperation.
- ziyue, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1If Taiwan wants to be sovereign, stop calling itself Republic of CHINA. If Taiwan wants to be sovereign, stop trying to claim mainland China is really a rogue providence of Taiwan. If Taiwan wants to be sovereign, why did they fought the mainland over who has claim to the permanent seat for China in the UN? If Taiwan wants to be sovereign, stop referencing all your date and time to the initial creation of the first Chinese republic. If Taiwan wants to be sovereign, stop putting the face of the former president of the Republic of China on your money. If Taiwan wants to be sovereign, reject all your heritage that involves anything Chinese.
- dopke, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1... you are way behind.
Taiwan is already a sovereign country. The R.O.C. term is mostly imposed on Taiwan by the international community and the international community are the ones that are holding Taiwan back, especially China. Taiwan has been pushing the past few years to change things to Taiwan instead of R.O.C. (Upcoming referendum on applying to U.N. under "Taiwan" is this Saturday FYI).
- dopke, on 03/18/2008, -0/+1... you are way behind.
- dopke, on 03/17/2008, -1/+3True, although it isn't hard to stereotype a country where everyone is indoctrinated with the same methodology that China owns all of Asia and that Taiwanese and Tibetans are rebels that need to be put in place.
- pngpng, on 03/17/2008, -5/+1Tibet and Taiwan is part of China undoubtfully. Mongolia, Siberia, Southeast Asia, and Central Asia to the Caspian Sea are independent to China. 99% of people have objective judgment to our country's right and independence. Chinese gov't has done 99% good to its people. China didn't occupy any countries. If you think Tibet or Taiwan or any other state of China is occupied by China, then think about where Americans come from. Boycott yourself!
- Xanadude, on 03/17/2008, -0/+2Ah, the Chewbacca defense. Always entertaining.
- emrldwpn, on 03/17/2008, -2/+0Mongolia WAS part of China since 1271 when the Yuan Dynasty took control of China.
- ziyue, on 03/17/2008, -0/+0How would any old Americans react if you argue with them about south really should be its own country? Or argue with them that they should give back their land to the native Americans? Or give back the land to Mexico? Which were all taken by force or trickery.
Why shouldn't the Chinese people be angry at foreigners? 8-country army invaded China near the end of the last dynasty. Made the people sign ridiculous land lease agreements, see HK and Macau for recent examples. The foreigners brought in the opiates when their own countries had banned them, even though they knew about the harm to the society.
Who is expansionistic?
- Spudster, on 03/17/2008, -1/+6It's great to see you stereotype people in a country of over one billion people.
- Viriatus2, on 03/17/2008, -2/+4yeah let's boycot itt!! Let's all change the TV channel to something else!!!!
i wonder how the average Joe can boycot something like the Olympic Games which take place far far away? Screaming to all you neighbours can hear? Post a story in your blog that no one reads it except you?? Stop buying chinese *****? mmmm- tman84, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1Nothing will really change for me during the olympics, I'll most likely be watching Adult Swim as usual and not the Olympics.
- mahdaeng, on 03/17/2008, -0/+1[[Stop buying chinese ****?]]
Uh, yeah - that's the idea. Not an easy thing to do these days, but certainly worth trying.
- x1soundgarden1x, on 03/17/2008, -3/+14My swim coach was on the Olympic team that had to boycott the Korean games. You could tell how disappointed he was as it was his only shot at the Olympics. I think boycotting would be really stupid. The point of the games is to bring countries together DESPITE disagreeing with the politics of competing nations. The West should attend the Olympics because that is the only incentive China has to not be even harsher with the Tibetans right now.
- MrKraut, on 03/17/2008, -4/+3They can attend all they want. I won't buy, attend, or watch anything related to the Olympic games. And you can bet that if I was an athlete I would think twice about going there,
However I of course understand that this is a very hard decision for them. After all Olympic gold is the maximum aspiration of most athletes out there.- david468, on 03/17/2008, -1/+1I think you missed his point.
- mahdaeng, on 03/17/2008, -1/+2The problem is not that Chinese and non-Chinese athletes will be participating in the games, it is that the games are going to be held in China. Hold the games elsewhere - problem solved.
- Azselendor, on 03/18/2008, -0/+2You want to hurt china, the US should just say "for every tibetan killed, we'll deduct one loan repayment."
- Hangly, on 03/18/2008, -0/+3China has no incentive at all not to be harsh on anyone. They'll kill some protesters, people will get mad, and they'll do it some more just to show you how much they don't care about your opinion. Pissing off the West is regarded as a show of strength.
- MrKraut, on 03/17/2008, -4/+3They can attend all they want. I won't buy, attend, or watch anything related to the Olympic games. And you can bet that if I was an athlete I would think twice about going there,
- zunipus, on 03/17/2008, -9/+12If this is what it takes to boycott the Chinese Olympics, then BRAVO. But I can think of another dozen reasons for a boycott. (1) China declared a 'Technology War' against the USA (2) The Red Hacker Army, created in 1998, more busy than ever cracking every Windows based server connected to the Internet at government offices around the planet. (3) Thousands of dead pets thanks to poisonous pet food from China (4) Child brain damage caused by lead paint in products made in China (5) Consistent censorship of the Internet in China (6) Total intolerance of free speech in the press and