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Bush speaks on the possibility of another 9/11

feeds.bignewsnetwork.com — US President George Bush has said he believes another 9/11 attack on the United Sates should be considered a strong possibility and warned that such an attack could originate from Pakistan.

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  • RomanThommassen, on 04/14/2008, -13/+53Share this with ALL YOUR contacts!!!! This needs to get to the frontpage, at all cost.
    • LumpyRevolution, on 04/14/2008, -11/+35He'll be behind yet another "attack". He's going to get arrested soon.
    • jasmin888, on 04/14/2008, -6/+8"He'll be behind yet another "attack". He's going to get arrested soon."
      Naive thinking
      Next 9/11 will be followed by martial law. Subversive elements will be rounded up and put in special camps. If Obama is in the race the election will either be prosponed or he will spectacular be killed in the attack.
      The whole point is that Bush and croneies can not risk loosing power and the only possible fly in the ointment is Obama. Don't expect him be alive next year if he prevails in primaries
      • bohemianowl, on 04/14/2008, -3/+10why would the elites kill their own puppet?
  • LumpyRevolution, on 04/14/2008, -12/+40SHARE THIS WITH ALL YOUR CONTACTS!!!!!!! THIS NEEDS TO GET TO FRONT PAGE AT ALL COSTS!!!!
    (echoing RomanThommassen)
  • worldinmyeyes, on 04/14/2008, -10/+64It's all about NSPD-51. Google it.

    President Bush on May 9th, 2007 signed a presidential directive (NSPD-51) that would allow him full control of the government and the country without congressional oversight. All it will take is a national crisis that doesn't even need to take place in the western hemisphere, and we will have ourselves a dictator.

    Say goodbye to Constitutional government (as we knew it) in America.
  • michael4lsu, on 04/14/2008, -8/+48Anyone who knows the real agenda of the globalism elitists who have hijacked our government will not be surprised about these comments from Bush, and would be more likely to expect the attacks to be carried out with the help of these NWO agents. These globalists, such as Bush, have no national pride or allegiance to any particular sovereign nation, even to the USA. Their devotion is to their own greed for money, power, and some even for their Luciferian occult practices. The loss of tens of millions of innocent lives or the destruction of America's sovereignty is not only insignificant to them in the big picture of their Master Plan, but is actually necessary. How long will we stand by and let this cabal get away with this?
    • RayG68, on 04/14/2008, -15/+4Sorry to burst your bubble, but there is no global conspiracy. In fact Bush is very patriotic and so is furthering the interests of the U.S. empire and its ruling class, as all presidents have before him. Ever wonder why Congress isn't stopping him? They share his interests. At this point in history they feel the best way to be #1 dog in the world, and keep our population subservient is to move in a fascist direction, including unleashing a Christian fascist base of millions of people within this country.
      All this is to say that the U.S. and allegiance to it is responsible for the atrocities being committed by our government. What we need is real internationalism -- acting on the interests of the people of the world.
      • bohemianowl, on 04/14/2008, -2/+19*****. what we need is to read the frickkin Constitution.
    • laserblazer, on 04/16/2008, -2/+2Well said and true.
  • mrzack, on 04/14/2008, -7/+40people in general are pussies. many don't want to have to confront the fact they live in a matrix of lies and deceit. Everything we were taught while growing up are a bunch of lies. Life is nothing but a big scam.
    • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -25/+13Then why are you still here? The gloom and doom of your daily life must be crushing you.
      • card51short, on 04/14/2008, -9/+22...says the guy who spends hours a day on Digg looking up topics he disagrees with so he can tell the people who do agree that they are idiots for not sharing his belief system.
        Sounds like something maybe a teenager would do?
        (psst this guy is pushing 50!!!!)
        • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -19/+12...says the guy pretending to be Libertarian.

          It's funny, I've called you out on this many times over the past month, and you NEVER take the time to respond. Pussy.
          • dracostimpy, on 04/14/2008, -3/+5...says the guy pretending to be an American.
          • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -4/+5All it takes to be American is citizenship, which I have. Or do you think there should be IQ and loyalty tests to be a citizen?
      • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -16/+11Is my stalker back? He must have missed me this weekend...
    • XanderDee, on 04/14/2008, -3/+8Do me a favor keep all of your savings in US dollars and invest in the stock market and go buy a no doc home. Then come back a year from now and tell me how fairly you were treated by the system.
      • bluto36, on 04/14/2008, -5/+4so be really stupid for a whole year? how do stupid people get treated fairly? should we pass laws so stupid people get treated more fair than non-stupid people? are you stupid? how do you keep your stupid strong? do you feel stupid?
        • XanderDee, on 04/15/2008, -1/+4So you think it's fair that the central bank is stealing peoples savings by printing more money to save the banks thus diluting all money in existence. People should know that and or else they are stupid?
          kettle black dude.
    • ZaZ2137, on 04/14/2008, -1/+3Nothing is true, everything is allowed.
  • Jimmyb207, on 04/14/2008, -9/+401st there was Chertoff with his "gut" feeling of a Nuke going off inside the U.S., Cheney a few weeks ago saying that there is a "very real" threat of a nuclear detonation with a U.S. city( Cheney scares me more than any of them BTW) and now Bush. The thing is...we all know by now if this happens it will be a false flag attack and our "government" after having attack their own country will say the attack originated from Pakistan. Well, of course, the Neocons want Iran like a sex addict wants a piece of ass. They will do and say anything to get it. Don't forget, the elections are fast approaching, what is this sick administration capable of in order to hold on to power?
    http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/bl ...
    • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -27/+16Yeah, it couldn't be that they have intelligence sources that are better than yours, and they just might be aware of plans. It HAS to be because they want to nuke their own country...
      • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -11/+21You're saying you actually trust Bush and his gang of criminals to tell you the truth?

        Do yourself a huge favor and smash yourself repeatedly in the face with a two-by-four for a minimum of 48 hours. If that doesn't help batter some sense into you, just give up breathing.
        • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -18/+17"You disagree with me, so you deserve to die"

          -The liberty-minded Groovemaster.
        • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -11/+17Pretty desperate strawman there, Herknon.

          Hey, I can do it too...

          "I take everything literally and have no sense of humor, therefore Bush is telling the truth" - Herknon
          • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -13/+16"If that doesn't help batter some sense into you, just give up breathing."

            ...that was a joke? I can't tell with you idiots anymore. I've been told so many things about how I'm going to hang from the gallows, or be put up against the wall, etc once the revolution starts.
          • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -8/+17No, I was completely serious when I suggested he voluntarily stop breathing. *rolls eyes*

            You're not making it easy for people who want to agree with your political opinions by acting like you're mentally disabled.
          • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -9/+9Bush and friends tells me that I'm allowed to hang them upside down by their toenails and pummel them into semi-consciousness with a wet carp to find out what they know/troll; All the while, I'm also allowed to crush jcm's genitals(?) in front of them--These discussions took place in the White House:
            http://digg.com/world_news/Cheney_Authorized_Tortu ...
        • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -17/+16I would tell you to go look at my comments highly critical comments regarding Bush, but you are clearly a sophomoric douche, much happier to live in the world of myopia, then actually discuss anything.

          Eat a bag of *****...
          • GhostyBoy, on 04/14/2008, -10/+3I had to digg you up for the last line.
        • jerger23, on 04/14/2008, -14/+11yeah, taking things literally=bad
          being serious about threats to our nation=bad
          spreading false information implicating thousands of government and non-government people of complicity in an attack on their own people=good
          Perfect logic at play here.
        • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -7/+18So you're basically saying it's not right to suggest that they'd do such a thing because they're American?

          Ignorant, blinkered, nationalistic, nazi-esque garbage.
          • jerger23, on 04/14/2008, -12/+11No, I'm saying that it's not right to suggest that so many people are complicit in such an endeavor without a shred of conclusive evidence.
          • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -7/+14So you're saying there's no reason whatsoever to suspect that the US government would kill - and may have already killed - their own countrymen in order to advance their stated geopolitical goals?

            Have you been asleep for the last decade or does your brain only function when the TV tells it to?
          • jerger23, on 04/14/2008, -11/+11Yes, I am saying that the people who go to work for the U.S. Government every day, in general, do so with the intention of improving this nation and the lives of American citizens domestically and abroad. I'm sure there are plenty of government employees with ulterior motives, however, even those with different objectives (unless they are spies for a foreign government) would not stand silent with the lives of that many Americans at stake.
            Since you can't seem to understand that there are people with a moral compass within the government, I'll put it in terms you who believe everyone is corrupt can understand: Nobody with "insider" status has come forward to admit their complicity in the acts. What would a story like that be worth, financially? We've all seen how some who are crying foul on the government have profited, surely someone would come forward with a book that showed how they were a part of the biggest conspiracy in the history of the United States of America, possibly the world.
            By the way, nice redirect with a truly hard-hitting insult there. It seems that snide comments are the best defense you've got when evidence is lacking.
          • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -7/+11Wow. Strawman arguments seem to be your forte.

            Where did I say that everyone in the US government was corrupt? I'm sure you'll clutch at straws and insist that me referring to "the US government" indicated that I meant every single person working for the US government, but this is just indicative of how pathetically desperate you are.

            "Nobody with "insider" status has come forward to admit their complicity in the acts. What would a story like that be worth, financially?"

            Yeah, people who are complicit in genocidal crimes usually come out and confess in the hope of making money from their story. Their confession immediately makes them exempt from being punished and they can carry on with life as usual. LOL. What planet do you live on exactly?
          • jerger23, on 04/14/2008, -10/+9"So you're saying there's no reason whatsoever to suspect that the US government would kill - and may have already killed - their own countrymen in order to advance their stated geopolitical goals?"
            -Killing your own citizens for geopolitical goals sounds awfully corrupt to me, do you disagree?
            "Where did I say that everyone in the US government was corrupt? I'm sure you'll clutch at straws and insist that me referring to "the US government" indicated that I meant every single person working for the US government, but this is just indicative of how pathetically desperate you are."
            -Indicates you have no knowledge of the inner workings of the government. No "conspiracy" involving this many complicit people would be a secret within the government for long.
            "Yeah, people who are complicit in genocidal crimes usually come out and confess in the hope of making money from their story. Their confession immediately makes them exempt from being punished and they can carry on with life as usual. LOL."
            -Again, reference Watergate. They couldn't keep a small operation out of the news, let alone something this big. It doesn't even have to be someone complicit that would come forward; enough people would have found out as the event happened that could have come forward.
            You clearly have no idea how much work it is to coordinate things outside of your which shoes to wear with which belt to believe that a select few would be in on such an operation.
            And then we get back to that whole issue of conclusive evidence, of which I still have yet to see any.
            I live on the planet Earth, a planet which you clearly either left a long time ago or have never seen.
            Paid AlQaeda Shill.
      • Jimmyb207, on 04/14/2008, -9/+22How was that intelligence before we went to Iraq? How about those WMD's? How about Osama bin Forgotten? How about that yellowcake from Nigeria? What a ***** brain dead Troll you are. Do you really think Iran would do something so stupid? Iran KNOWS the neocon U.S. is watching their every move. Iran knows the neocon administration wants to blow their country to kingdom come. Iran is not going to do ***** to start a war with the U.S. Whatever event takes place in this country, it will be blamed on Iran.
        • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -17/+16Yes, my saying they might have some intelligence reports you know nothing about means I trust the government implicitly. That is quite a leap of *****, but thoroughly expected from a squeak like you.

          Jesus, you are SUCH a huge douche of an idiot. It is just fine for you to say everyone is in on everything, and no one is even allowed to question your idiocy, but someone else just says ANYTHING, and you jump so far down the rat hole, only your puckered ass is sticking out.

          Get over yourself, grow up, and put me on ignore if you can't handle reality.
          • Jimmyb207, on 04/14/2008, -11/+17I can handle reality just fine. Put you on ignore?.......No, I can't do that. I find your naive stupidity to be thoroughly entertaining.
          • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -12/+15Yes, 6 years in the military, 4 of them on Submarines makes ME naive, while you, the keyboard jockey, knows all the answers. My being skeptical of the government makes me naive, while your thinking EVERYONE is out to get you is clearly the best answer.

            Were it that I could also say your naivety is amusing. It is boring, repetitive, and childish. You fail, miserably
          • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -10/+9Impressive. That explains much. Now I understand your name here (other than as troll697). The Indianapolis? 66,000 hp on the 'screw/shaft?' Nice. But you remember that pipe that said 'live steam'? You're not supposed to toke on that one!
          • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -11/+11No, my ID, according to the intellectually defeated here, somehow means some government special social security number. Never mind a quick search of google for SSN697 gives the easy answer. IT is MUCH better to make some crazy ***** up.

            I am VERY aware of what our government will do, and never tell anyone. I am also VERY aware what other governments do. The idea that we are the great Satan, and if we would just be nicer, everything would be great, is the biggest bunch of *****. Yet, you see the deniers making that claim every day.
          • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -7/+9@ssn: You, better than most, should understand something about 'compartmentalization' (pun intended) and have a good understanding of how something so grand/criminal can happen and no one come out about it or even know that they were involved.

            I don't know what your post or duties were there but let's just assume that you fit the 'odd man hypothesis (Andromeda Strain reference)' and were the guy to turn that "key."--If you got the order to do so then you would. You would not know the details of why--just follow that order. What if the process were compromised/hacked? You wouldn't know anything but you got the "confirmed order." I think you see where I'm coming from with the idea I present here.

            A better example than Watergate of a grand scale thing that was kept secret would be the 'Manhattan Project' --heavily compartmentalized. Most left hands didn't even know that there was a right, let alone what it was doing. -- There is a more famous example of an 'Indianapolis' (not a sub). You know what I mean. Look what happened there and to those sailors just to keep a secret { or is that just fiction from Benchley's Jaws?}
          • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -9/+12The Indianapolis story is definitely NOT fiction. Survivors would come throw a wreath every year. They had horror stories that they rarely shared. Those stories still haunt me.

            I understand very well what you suggest. I have no doubt, however, that 9/11 was not a U.S. led event, nor was it a controlled demolition. None whatsoever. I am thoroughly convinced, precisely because I DO question the government, and HAVE looked at the evidence (I lost several friends that day).

            I spent much of my submarine career in illegal waters, doing things that we supposedly didn't do. If we HADN'T, we wouldn't have been nearly as safe as we were, period. I would much rather be on this side, watching these pimply faced ***** bitch and whine about fascism and a police state, then be on the other side, where you better shut the ***** up before they DO kill you.
          • Jimmyb207, on 04/14/2008, -6/+10My father spent 20 years in the navy's Submarine Service and worked his way up to E-9. He was on the crew of some diesel first, then moved to SSN605, then moved to SSN678 where he became COB and retired in 1977. I have tremendous respect for my father and most people who served, any branch of the military. BUT, even in the military, it take all kinds of people. I've talked to Captains and I seen the boats whack jobs. So, even with all the mudslinging thats going on here, I do respect that aspect about you. 1st, I never said that you serving for 6 years made you naive, you did. I found what you wrote here interesting,"I would much rather be on this side, watching these pimply faced ***** bitch and whine about fascism and a police state, then be on the other side, where you better shut the ***** up before they DO kill you." Signs are pointing that this country is heading straight for that "other side" that even you don't want to be on.
          • Look4Truth, on 04/14/2008, -7/+10"I have no doubt, however, that 9/11 was not a U.S. led event, nor was it a controlled demolition"

            I understand your emotional tie to that event and I'm deeply sorry for your loss. However, the entire nation was hurt that day in different ways and how anyone can't see building 7, at the very least, for what it is, is beyond me. I used to think it was malarky myself but building 7 is just over the top. That building was imploded, plain and simple.
          • dracostimpy, on 04/14/2008, -6/+10They had a ***** COUNTDOWN to the collapse of building 7. How in the HELL can they predict to the second when a building will collapse, other than if it were wired? Do you think they wired it to implode that same day after the first 2 towers collapsed?

            http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007 ...

            If you know full well the horrors that governments routinely commit against one another, why can't you get it into your head that it's perfectly logical for governments to do that to their own populace as well? When it comes to conscienceless leviathans like big government, the ends ALWAYS justify the means. Killing a few thousand stockbrokers is a pittance to pay for the privilege of getting a stranglehold on the global energy supply, since we can now use that control to stymie growing adversaries like China.

            Did you think our government is going to sit idly by as China grabs us by the economic balls? Hell NO! They're fighting dirty as expected, and in this case that means conjuring up a bogeyman to use as an excuse to invade and conquer the fuel supply for China's engine of growth. In the end, they'll be sitting on a pile of worthless dollars, but we'll be sitting upon a pile of quite useful oil. That's the end game, and killing 3000 Americans, 4000 troops or a million Iraqis is no price at all, since people are just "renewable resources" as far as government is concerned; oil isn't.

            I'm sorry if some of us are breaking your eggshell of denial and spilling you out of your comforting ovular goo into the frigid, harsh reality of a world that doesn't give a ***** about all the little children, but it is what it is. If you want to go on believing that Big Brother protects and cares for you, then go right ahead and jump in the bread line and await your delicious fate, but please forgive those of us who prefer to feed ourselves.

            Lastly, your "America, ***** Yeah" rah-rah ***** wears thin on us, because all those nasty things you did to protect our freedom DIDN'T ***** WORK; we're more of a police state now than ever before in our history. I'm glad you love America too, but if you want to help keep America free, then stand up against ANY enemy, foreign OR DOMESTIC, who dares attempt to restrict our Constitutional freedoms, no matter what the phony reasons. Osama didn't pass the woefully Orwellian Patriot Act, Saddam didn't setup the illegal wiretaps, and Muqtada al Sadr didn't sign a memo authorizing the "land of the free" to commit acts of torture against Iraqi civilians who are dubbed "al Qaeda" simply because they're upset that KBR employees shot up a car carrying their whole family (of terrorists, right?)

            Christ, some girl was just busted for dancing on the Jefferson Memorial. DANCING. You can't even ***** DANCE on the memorial of the most renowned pro-freedom American to ever live without some jackbooted asshats cuffing and hauling ya. And you're fighting them OVER THERE so they won't hurt us over here? News flash: THEY WERE ALREADY HERE, but they aren't quite as brown as the ones you're fighting.
          • ssn697, on 04/15/2008, -7/+5As I have already said, The Salvation Army has taken the Red Cross to task for counting down out loud. I mean come on! The ***** Red Cross! Damn NWO scum, giving it all away! Thousands of people covering this up, and the ***** Red Cross does an out loud countdown?!?!? I heard the CFR,NWO, Bilderburg, Lizard people, ALL of them refuse to give blood now...

            Oh, nice job finding some crazy strawman to pick out. Change subject now!!!!
          • Look4Truth, on 04/15/2008, -4/+7Sorry ssn but it really is a duck. It doesn't matter if you don't feel comfortable with the truth so that you just deny it but the truth is that building 7 was imploded whether you or I like it or not. Deep down inside, ALL of you bashers know what the truth is but you just don't want to deal with it because the truth sucks and you don't want to take responsibility for what you'll have to do afterwards.

            A duck is a duck regardless of whether you want to call it a monkey or not.
          • floatingorb, on 04/15/2008, -2/+7@ssn697: I don't wish to offend {I admit that i'm still stung by your assessment of me awhile back..you know the one--call me 'thin skinned'.} but right now I've got this movie to remind me:
            {when the wind blows} http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090315/
            and this pink floyd song (2 suns in the sunset--probably not the best visualization):
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psnjX0_k2MY
            Can we not come to an agreement that such solutions for American 'hegemony' is madness?
          • ssn697, on 04/15/2008, -4/+5Ok, so are you saying neither of the towers were controlled demolitions? Are you admitting there is no evidence for either of them being controlled demolitions, but WTC 7 is a controlled demolition?
          • ssn697, on 04/15/2008, -4/+7@floatingorb. Sorry, no, I don't remember my assessment of you. You must understand, the denier crowd blends together easily.

            Plying my good side with Pink Floyd is cheating. You however mistake me for a blind patriot. I am a patriot, with severe concerns regarding our future direction. Our world has already become a (sort of) de facto hegemony, with little intervention. I just don't buy into every fanciful delusion.
          • floatingorb, on 04/15/2008, -3/+4@ssn697 re:"CD"
            I believe it was and since some are fond of saying that "explosions aren't evidence of explosives", I have proposed that superheated water tanks of ~100-150 gallons superheated to 1500-1600 Fahrenheit (special tank, of course) could have done the deed (blown out central core columns). Thus, no evidence of conventional explosives. Regardless..explosions aren't evidence of explosives..yes..but they can have the same effect. My grandfather was killed when a 'steam shovel' blew up..when he came out (alive--but not for long) his skin was hanging off of him...this is consistent with the testimony of the 'janitor' "Rodriguez."
          • floatingorb, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5@ssn697 RE: assessment
            It was this ::: "Wow, epic failure, on such literal levels. You have no degree. You are playing at science. Even an MBA can see that. Once again, you stroke yourself at the expense of three thousand people. You will die young with that knowledge, and the stress of your lies, hanging over your head.
            I feel no pity for you. Disappear into your self involved nothingness. Facts and science are your poison.."

            Thanks for 'forgetting.' *grin* I'll still come and fix the boat when one of the guys blows the moderator/heat exchanger/turbine feed.
          • MrESaulved, on 04/15/2008, -4/+3You display none of the qualities of any service member, of any branch, that I had the honor to serve with. In fact, your behavior is the opposite so I'm glad you are off your boat.

            I would decertify you quickly if you were on my crew and you act like you post.

            /can match your 'super-secret' military career anyday sailor so can it.
          • floatingorb, on 04/15/2008, -1/+4@MrESaulved
            Just whom are you addressing?--I fought 'tooth and nail' not to serve but now wish I did.
          • Look4Truth, on 04/15/2008, -4/+5I believe that all three were obviously demolished ssn, it's obvious to me just from watching them come down. But the most obvious is building 7 and that's why I try to bring it down to the very core essence of 9/11, so if you can't see building 7 for what it is then you're in denial. Look, I don't like the idea of what really happened on 9/11 either but to ignore the truth just because it's painful is not the right thing to do. But you have to do that on your own time just as I did, if you choose to do so. We all have to make that decision.
          • ssn697, on 04/15/2008, -3/+4@floatingorb

            I remember that outburst, but do not recall what brought it on, or that it was directed at you. As I said, many of the 9/11 people blend together. Right now, I have three blocked, and they all start with "c" (card, cash, and another one). My apologies if it was unfounded.

            My boat no longer exists. Gone, finit. It was decommissioned quite a while ago, with the core gone, and the boat scrapped. Sigh....
          • floatingorb, on 04/16/2008, -0/+1Ehh, It wasn't "unfounded"...I was defending the audio in that Trinity Church vid of the south tower Demolition.--The sound on that one probably was fake, after all.....Still, It was demolition and not 'gravity collapse' (IMO and, well, 'laws'(from observasion) of physics/God et al).
  • americangoy, on 04/14/2008, -8/+41They won't say Pakistan - they will say it originated from IRAN of course.
  • Herkimer56, on 04/14/2008, -44/+20This piece of crap sure brought the lunatics out. Buried.
    • knobtwiddler, on 04/14/2008, -13/+23no YOU'RE buried, you traitorous centcom scumbag.this is not a military dictatorship. stay the ***** out of the domestic civilian media.
      • Herkimer56, on 04/14/2008, -23/+18I am a civilian. I just use that icon because it sets off the retards and provokes them to make really stupid posts.
        • MrESaulved, on 04/14/2008, -11/+22Don't worry, Herkiemr56's back will be up against the wall when the time comes, all traitors are eventually.

          The sweet irony is that he knows it too.
        • card51short, on 04/14/2008, -10/+22You think Herky knows it? Sometimes I do but then I see the depths of his denial and change my mind.
          I know deep down he knows something is wrong and he's just going to rationalize until it's too late.
          Quite sad actually. You would think with such old age there would be some kind of wisdom there.
          Then again what do you expect from someone who LITERALLY spends 75% of his day on Digg calling people names.
        • knobtwiddler, on 04/14/2008, -7/+17i'm not buying that for a second.
          are you affiliated with or contracted by any government agency of any country? if so what? whats your line of work herkimer?
          you spend way too much time on here spewing lies. i have to assume you're being paid for it.
        • Herkimer56, on 04/15/2008, -4/+9I'm an IT guy that has time to play on the web when I'm not busy. So suck it is all I have to say to you, homer. Why are you here posting statements that you know are untrue and can be easily proved to be untrue? I'm not going to assume that it's a financial matter, I'm going to assume that it's just some sort of pathetic ego-gratification.
      • JohnReb, on 04/14/2008, -5/+11Even if he wasn't a civilian, US military members are still citizens of the US and entitled to express thier opinions. Or do you think sailors and soldiers shouldn't argue against you?
        By the way, what do you have against CentCom?
        • americangoy, on 04/14/2008, -7/+10"By the way, what do you have against CentCom?"

          Not protecting ME from 9/11 attack, for starters...
          • JohnReb, on 04/14/2008, -4/+9So, in other words, you have no idea what CentCom is.
          • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -4/+9Wow, that's a helluva lot of ignorance right there. You should go find out what CENTCOM is.
    • XanderDee, on 04/14/2008, -5/+8Yeah I know that's why we bury you.
  • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -10/+47Bush must think the vast majority of Americans are retarded.

    Wait lemme correct that...

    Bush must have realized that the vast majority of Americans are retarded.
    • Look4Truth, on 04/14/2008, -6/+22Hahaha, yep! Plus, they've got booze and a clicker, what do they care?
    • Beveridge89, on 04/14/2008, -3/+6I too agree we should give up democracy and hand over everything to the elite, the only people able to govern us effectively, free from the 'retarded' influence of our fellow citizens idiotic will. In many ways this new order of elites from every cormer of the globe would be best to combine together, into one ruling body, so as we are left with only the elite of the elite- the truly enlightened ones.
  • Heysal, on 04/14/2008, -5/+37It's simple folks - write your congressmen and senators - tell them they either impeach right now - or get a new job, then start the petitions for their recall flowing so they can see you mean it. The only way left to take America back is state by state.
    • keymanjim2, on 04/14/2008, -5/+14Yea, that works.
      The little wetback that represents me wont do anything about the illegal invasion, but he'll do something as petty as impeachment. Especially during election season.
  • Look4Truth, on 04/14/2008, -7/+21You RLC members are so blind it's pathetic. Oh well, maybe you'll wake up when a nuke is set off in your city...maybe.
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 04/14/2008, -11/+20ITZ ABOUT TEH OILZ!!1!!1

    Pakistan has oil, right?
    • keymanjim2, on 04/14/2008, -5/+17Mexico has oil and it's not as much of a schlep. Why aren't we invading then like they're invading us?
      • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -2/+5Drug wars/politics anyone? The people have no say...When we wised up here to 600 dollar toilet seats and the spooks needed some other way to fund their underhandedness, ol' whatever el prezidentay they had down there was glad to step up to the plate and help the CIA with the drug-running/crack producing.
    • knobtwiddler, on 04/14/2008, -6/+17they're already under the thumb of the new world order. no need to invade for what is already yours.
  • knobtwiddler, on 04/14/2008, -9/+35it would not surprise me one bit if we had no 2008 election.
    they stole the last one by hacking and fraud, there's no reason to think they wouldn't steal this one by force.

    however it would be much more clever and maintain the illusion of a legit government if they just install hillary or mccain who will just continue down the same path.

    we can not underestimate their gall. to stage another false flag attack would be will within their agenda and capabilities.

    just remember who ran the last one. die on your feet instead of living on your knees as slaves being worked to death in some camp.
    • Herkimer56, on 04/14/2008, -23/+11"it would not surprise me one bit if we had no 2008 election"
      Well, that's because you're stupid, paranoid and delusional. Now go twiddle your knob and leave politics to the adults.
      • card51short, on 04/14/2008, -9/+17no YOU'RE stupid, paranoid and delusional!

        (geez herky, you're up to five ad hominem's per comment on average! Hard to keep up with your 3rd grader antics! You're 56 years old, sir...act your age! And no that doesn't mean drop dead.)
      • XanderDee, on 04/14/2008, -4/+7Just remember you comments when the elections are canceled. I wonder will you join the resistance or continue saying "Everything is OK this is extenuating circumstance your just paranoid" or will you protest?
        • JohnReb, on 04/14/2008, -6/+7So will you admit your error if the elections are held?
          • XanderDee, on 04/15/2008, -1/+2Sure I have placed bets that there will be no elections, 5 ounces of silver to all my friends. I put my REAL money where my mouth is. I noticed you did not answer my question though.
          • RuffRidr, on 04/15/2008, -1/+2XanderDee: Let's see 5 ounces of silver x 0 friends. Ya, that is some risk you are taking there. I'll make a wager with you however. Whichever one of us is wrong has to write a 2500 word blog post about how big of a douche you/I were for our so obviously wrong position. Then this blog must be posted on to Digg. Then that post on Digg will be the last anyone on here ever hears from you/I again. You in?
          • XanderDee, on 04/15/2008, -1/+2I'm down but what will you do to stop him if he does no ***** about oh this is extenuating circumstances. I don't care what happens, California can fall in the ocean, if there is no elections you lose.
          • RuffRidr, on 04/15/2008, -1/+2I figure if there are no elections and I lose, I've got more important things to worry about than posting on a message board.
        • bluto36, on 04/14/2008, -2/+3NO! it just means the conspiracy has moved and become even more sneaky. those Elite NWO bilderbooger illumanati ( pssst joooooooooooooooooooooooooos) are just so sneaky they will never give up. just because they lose an election they wont give up. and why should they they can listen in on your thoughts and see you through your monitor!!!!

          /Booga booga!
    • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -15/+13Ah, the ever handy "THEY!!!". First, THEY stole the election, then THEY will just put someone in place. Wait, who did THEY steal the election from? All thought THEY were all in on IT?

      So you won't be surprised at all if there is no election? When there IS an election, will you admit you are full of *****, a rambling paranoid, always looking for the worst?
      • RuffRidr, on 04/14/2008, -6/+10Na, when nothing happens then it is a "double false flag". Those government types are very sinister you know. Doing nothing so as to throw us all off. Sneaky.
        • ssn697, on 04/14/2008, -8/+9You missed it where one of these mental midgets actually claimed THEY were responsible for the false flags not happening, because they were making America "aware". I am not ***** you. Now, when the ***** they make up doesn't happen, it is because they prevented it! Nice tight circle of *****, wrapped in a cocoon of stupidity...
      • knobtwiddler, on 04/14/2008, -3/+5the neo-con stooges of the new world order/illuminati.
        if i thought you had half a brain i would start naming names but it would fall on deaf ears.
    • GhostyBoy, on 04/14/2008, -4/+13I really can't see why they wouldn't have an election. Throw a new face in the White House, continue doing shady ***** behind the scenes, and the general public will think that everything is a-okay for the next few years.

      Declaring martial law and stopping the election would be a massive heatscore, and might cause a revolt (although Americans are so lazy and apathetic I bet they would just go along with it.), why would anyone take that risk when they already have the power to continue acting behind the scenes regardless of who is elected?
      • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -3/+7In this article:
        http://digg.com/world_news/Former_Air_Traffic_Cont ...
        there is this quote:
        “We have two parties in this country; we have republicans and we have republicans dressed up in blue drag. And when we get the blue outer clothing off of the fake democrats, they stand there in their red Armani underwear.” --Air traffic controller Robin Hordon
        • Herkimer56, on 04/14/2008, -10/+8I read that. It was *****, too.
          • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -3/+6Unbunch that Armani underwear of yours...Or do you like it that way?--leftwing, rightwing, the flightpath never changes. It's illusion, it's rigged, it's wwf. -- It's fascism.
  • RomanThommassen, on 04/14/2008, -4/+29So what Bush is saying: There could be a terror attack from pakistan, but we are all powerless, so let's borrow some trillions for when it has happened, so we can invade pakistan/iran/both, in the name of peace.
  • RomanThommassen, on 04/14/2008, -4/+27But to be honest, he is just saying: ok, we're planning a new 9/11, that's everything i can tell you fro now, but we'll blame pakistan, we're only telling you this so you can know it's Pakistan right away. No investigation needed, no thinking required, the government will take care of them.
  • bill1328, on 04/14/2008, -1/+18They love to predict what they are actually going to do. They feel smarter when they do that. Hmmm...Pope's in town this week....what would be better to galvanize Christians and Americans to an anti-Islamic War than to bump off the Pontiff at Yankee Stadium on 4/20/08??? Plus, as an added bonus, Steinbrenner won't have to pay to have old Yankee stadium demolished...Yankees will be playing at Baltimore BTW on 4/20/08.
    • worldinmyeyes, on 04/14/2008, -3/+13Would never happen - the Pope's part of it all - a *very significant* part of it all.

      Pope John Paul II calls for "New World Order" http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/01/01/pop ...
      Pope Benedict calls for "New World Order:" http://snipurl.com/24dr6 [Reuters]
      Global Elites call for "New World Order" http://www.oldthinkernews.com/Articles/global_elit ...

      People need to WAKE UP fast to what he and his "church" are all about.
      • michael4lsu, on 04/14/2008, -2/+5Wrong. If they did use the words "New World Order", it certainly is not the same sort of New World Order the elites have planned for us. The Catholic Church promotes individualism, whereas the elites promote collectivism. These are extreme opposites. The Catholic Church has been against the Iraq War before it even started:
        http://www.americancatholic.org/news/JustWar/iraq/ ...

        I can assure you that these globalism elitists view the Catholic Church as one of their arch enemies. Apparently you've been buying into the elite's anti-Catholic propaganda.
        • worldinmyeyes, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5Guys look, we can sit here and rant about Bush and Cheney all day long (and I like to as well), but there are much higher people in the control grid. One of them is the Catholic Church, and when the New World Order comes, it's religion will come from the Vatican. We need to understand this.

          The true history of the Catholic Church has been covered-up, re-written, glossed over, or lied about.

          But you have to open your mind and you have to really look. When I was first told to look at the Jesuits, I was not excited, and didn't think much would come of it. Seemed boring to me. Eventually I looked, looked some more, and looked more. Sure enough, they're behind a significant portion of what's going on.

          But you know what? The Jesuit Order is a military order - similar to the CIA in the USA, but reports to the Pope. The have sworn allegiance to destroy the Popes enemies, and they are ruthless.

          Consider just a few things:
          - Hitler, Like Bush, Loyal To The Vatican
          http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/nov2006/hitler ...
          - "The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy." - Franz von Papen
          - Hitler's SS was modeled after the Jesuit Order.
          - What is an egyptian obelisk - aka Baal's shaft - doing in St. Peter's square?
          - The 3 power centers: Rome, London, Washington.
          - “The catholic church has spilt more blood than any other religion.” - Adolph Hitler
          - Mein Kampf was ghost written by a Jesuit
          - Many believe the Catholic Church is behind the creation of Islam

          I could go on and on.

          How much money does the Catholic Church have? How do they afford to pay our 2.8 BILLION in sex abuse cases?
          http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_10.asp

          Youtube:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD_lBstvptE (Vatican and the Third Reich)
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9gitez0wiM (Zagami on Jesuits and more)
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzTLc5L-CtU (Jesuit-Vatican assassination of Abe Lincoln)

          Radio Interviews with Eric Jon Phelps (free online):
          http://snipurl.com/24fos [www_archive_org]

          A very good forum:
          The Unhived Mind:
          http://s13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/

          Books:
          "The Two Babylons: Or, the Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife" - Alexander Hislop
          "The Vatican Assassins" - Eric Jon Phelps
          "The Vatican Billions" by Avro Manhattan (can read free online)
          "Rulers of Evil: Useful Knowledge About Governing Bodies" - F. Tupper Saussy

          Please, take time, open your mind, and research yourself, and see if you agree. Our problems are much higher than Bush, Cheney, et al.
        • worldinmyeyes, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5Some more thoughts - the Pope can say he is against the war in Iraq, but it doesn't make it so. Were they against the Nazis? They say they were but evidence doesn't really suggest so. We do know they were against the common person being able to read and interpret the Bible. We do know they opposed free speech in America. We do know they have murdered countless people throughout history for opposing the Popes.

          If John Paul II was so against Priest sex abuse, why did he allow it to be covered up, pedophiles re-assigned, didn't report it to police, and engaged in systematic plots to conceal evidence? You can blame lower Bishops or others below, but he absolutely knew this was happening in his churches. Some of the cases go back to the 1930s I think.

          I'm not trying to offend anyone who is Catholic. This is not about you at all. I was raised Catholic myself.
      • doshindude, on 04/14/2008, -1/+1Iif John Paul II called for a "New World Order," it surely wasn't meant in that context. He was one of the most peaceful people to ever walk this earth.
        • worldinmyeyes, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5The one who many believe worked for IG Farben and sold cyanide gas (really Zyklon-B) to the Nazi's during WW2? Whether it's true I don't know. But it's important we don't take these global leaders and organizations at face value - If we did then Bush is truly fighting terrorism, and Freemasons are a benevolent fraternal society.

          I think we really need to take a hard look at the one power source that Alex Jones refuses to expose. I like Alex a lot, and he exposes everything BUT the Catholic Church. Anyone taking an honest, hard look at them will begin to see the truth. Some believe Alex is a Jesuit coadjuter, but I think it's very possible he knows he can expose everything BUT the Jesuits. Maybe they'll kill him if he does. Some know who William Cooper is - he exposed the Jesuits and many believe he was killed for it.

          Alex will not take calls about the Catholic Church's role, and he has refused to have guests on that discuss it. Some have tried to talk to him privately and he refuses to discuss it. He had a guest on that wanted to expose it, and wouldn't let him bring it up. When the Pope called for a New World Order, Alex simply used his website to post the AP release with no analysis.

          Consider also the author of the Patriot Act - A Jesuit-Catholic Vietnamese man from Georgetown University
          The founder of Homeland Security? Another Catholic minion.
          Bush's Supreme Court appointee John Roberts? Another Catholic.

          I could go on and on and on....and I'm relatively new to the knowledge of the extent of Vatican corruption. It's great to expose Bilderbergs, CFR, Freemasons, CIA, NSA, etc. But there is a great power above these groups that conceals their true identity very well.

          All roads lead to Rome.
        • worldinmyeyes, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4Samuel Alito - another Catholic Bush-apponted Supreme Court judge. Catholics (about 25 percent of the US population) now hold a majority on the Supreme Court.
          http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=1536354

          I believe Bush is a phony protestant Christian who is in service to the Queen of England and the Pope. This is as high as it goes, people. This is the top of the pyramid structure. Whoever has ears, let him hear.

  • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -9/+28The war propaganda has been increasing recently. This is a sign that another false flag may be coming,... a staged event used as an excuse to pimp America out for more war for foreign interests. America forms part of the heart of the world, and she bleeds very, very well...

    But she is *already* overstretched, and needs to recapitulate what happened on 9/11 and what it has lead to, rather than increasing the scope of the blood sacrifice.

    The war profiteers,... in their towers overlooking their red symphony,... they are the ones that need "brought to justice".
    • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -20/+12For 7 years, you morons have been ranting about how the next 9/11 is coming. So, man the ***** up, and name a date, or forever be mocked as paranoid jackasses.
      • davharrington, on 04/16/2008, -0/+5Actually fighting terrorism is supposed to create "10 000 BIN LADENS" remember when they were saying that? If the cause of terrorism is fighting terrorism it should be fair to say that drawing cartoons is as well.
    • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -8/+16@Hortnon

      Hortnon, it is precisely by raising awareness *before* an event happens that people can help to stave off tragedy. *That* is the measure of success. Confirmation of a possibility that people are praying does not occur is *not* success.
      • JohnReb, on 04/14/2008, -13/+13So if something (anything) happens, you get to claim you knew before hand. If nothing happens, you get to claim your crying wolf stopped it from happening.

        Wow, you get to win even if you're wrong with that system. But I ain't buying it. Put up or shut up.
        • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -7/+14Who said anything about claiming winning or losing to bolster their self image? LOL!

          In war, no one wins. Have you considered that these people are excercising their free speech so that you and I don't have to get drafted to appease someone's self-centered greed?
          • JohnReb, on 04/14/2008, -8/+10First, I'm in no danger of being drafted. I'm old enough to have registered under the old draft, and young enough to have enlisted and served after it ended. And the only ones talking about starting a draft are those using it as a scare tactic to get people to agree with them. The last time the bill was submitted and called up to vote even the guy who wrote it refused to vote for it. But if you want to let them scare you with draft talk, feel free.

            Tell the people in Korea that no one wins in war. They might disagree after they were liberated from Japan.

            People are entitled to speak their minds. I'm entitled to call them on it when they do. We all have the right to free speech.

            As for who said anything about winning or losing, allow me to remind you.

            "Hortnon, it is precisely by raising awareness *before* an event happens that people can help to stave off tragedy. *That* is the measure of success."

            So what will you say if nothing happens? Will you admit you were wrong, or will you claim your warnings stopped it from happening?
          • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -5/+9@JohnReb

            Thank you for sharing. Regarding winning and losing, I prefer to aim for win-win scenerious, where no one loses, and everyone ultimately wins. Winning at the expence of others has no heart for me.

            You say: "So what will you say if nothing happens? Will you admit you were wrong, or will you claim your warnings stopped it from happening?"

            If nothing happens, as you put it, I will be thankful. But I will continue to tell my truth as long as I'm alive, and I have no intention of becoming complacent when things appear to be calm. Instead, I will continue to share what I feel is important, as long as I feel that it will serve the purpose of expanding awareness, in my own way. It doesn't matter the outcome of my actions, it only matters to me that I did my best. In this case, it is simply about sharing. And as long as I perceive that deception is being hammered out, there will always be my truth to tell.
          • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -9/+5@JohnReb RE: "First, I'm in no danger of being drafted.."
            Oh really? Domestic service? I can tell you this: If i'm drafted to flip burgers and I think that someone is a neocon warmongering shill--I can tell you this; "There are worse things on burgurs besides hair/spit!" Nothing different than today, really. People who have to 'piss in a cup' to make minimum wage flipping burgers may see anyone there able to buy them as 'the elite'--advice: don't eat out.
          • JohnReb, on 04/14/2008, -4/+12No, floatingorb, US Navy, 6 years. Spent years at sea, hardly domestic duty.

            But hey, beat your chest/keyboard if it makes you feel bigger.
          • floatingorb, on 04/15/2008, -8/+3@JohnReb: What I was referring to was the fact that you can be 'conscripted' to serve domestically{service industry in the homeland}--doesn't matter the age or what you did/served before.
          • JohnReb, on 04/15/2008, -4/+12@floatingorb
            What are you talking about? Who is being conscripted for "domestic service"? How is that being done? Where is it happening? What are you smoking?
          • Hortnon, on 04/15/2008, -4/+10I think he's referring to the issue that ended up in making it illegal to deploy federal military for domestic use. Having just become familiar with the actual law within the last couple days, I don't know much about it yet...
          • JohnReb, on 04/15/2008, -3/+11Hortnon, do you mean "posse comitatus"? Because that dates back to just after the Civil War and has nothing to do with drafting people.

            That's the only law I'm aware of having to do with the US military and how it can be used in the USA.
          • Hortnon, on 04/15/2008, -4/+11Yeah, that's what I was referring to. I think I got it mixed up because I read about what the words meant before reading about the law, and the concept has to do with a sheriff "drafting" civilians to help him.
          • JohnReb, on 04/15/2008, -4/+9Yeah, it can be a confusing law.

            Still no word from floatingorb on how and where Americans are being conscripted for "domestic service" whatever that is.
          • floatingorb, on 04/16/2008, -8/+3@JohnReb:
            "Another popular question is, "What if I'm religiously opposed to military service? Doesn't the 1st Amendment protect me?" In a way, the 1st Amendment does protect you from the draft. However, it would not protect you from service. In the event of a draft, you must appear before a draft board when called. At that point, a person can declare that military service is counter to his religious or moral beliefs. He can also declare that combat service is counter to his religious or moral beliefs. In the former case, the draft board can defer the person to serve in a non-military role. The person will likely still be drafted, but may SERVE IN A DOMESTIC SERVICE UNIT..."
            http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_drft.html

            Selective Service still in effect/law ain't it? Who in this 'new' generation is going to "volunteer" for such an obvious farce..{except this one kid I knew a while back said he "was going to Iraq because he wanted to kill people."...These sick types (like the 'puppy chunker') are going to come back home to roost and gravitate to law-enforcement positions to feed their newly(?) acquired and nurtured sick tastes. *enjoy* }

            The current *age* for the 'draft' is arbitrary and can easily be amended by congress/(martial law--executive order) as deemed *necessary*

          • JohnReb, on 04/16/2008, -3/+10The Selective Service law emplaces the mechanics for a draft. Registration and draft boards, that's all. The draft ended in the 1970's and would require an Act of Congress to restart. Since even the people who have written draft laws in the last decade refuse to vote for them, there isn't a draft.

            Without a draft, no one can be conscripted in the US. That includes me and you.

            Thanks for proving my point.
          • floatingorb, on 04/16/2008, -7/+3Addendum: To any youngsters(?) that fall upon this post and loath the idea of being drafted; my best advice is to join the ROTC!!!! --Learn their system. Be a good student, But then be outspoken on you're political positions...That's how to get the recruiters to leave you alone--though It could just get you to a Fema camp faster now.

            My experience started out simple enough--(physics aptitude)+(perfect ASVAB)+short (5'8)==Nuclear sub duty. I wish I could have participated. But remember that part about ALL ENEMIES, foreign AND domestic?--All I've ever seen is domestic. Drug wars, IRS, ATF, MJTF--road blocks everywhere ("show your papers) {especially veteran's day--I call it "Americans who fought and died in vain for freedom day"}

            Simple enough. But then the 'string pulling' started. I was nominated for several awards I did not really deserve; later to be pulled to the side and 'advised' about a career in chemical/biological warfare--They were just as horrified at my reaction as I was at their suggestion. Show them your aptitude and let them know you know what cast iron pipe to hit with a hammer to '***** stuff up' and that's enough to keep you out (of service)--Irony(?) is, because of ROTC training I would be a superior officer (in rank) to most (2nd lieutenant) if I were to join today.--But I cannot. The fascism or threat is not from "across the pond"; Rather, it is here at home.
          • JohnReb, on 04/16/2008, -3/+9Or, since there is no draft. you could just not enlist.
          • floatingorb, on 04/16/2008, -7/+3@JohnReb (is that handle from that guy in King of the Hill that was always boning Dale's wife?):
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuIOra6dAN0
            glad you had 'fun' there. Or did you?
          • JohnReb, on 04/16/2008, -3/+9Amazing.

            So when you lose an argument you get nasty?

            By the way, I served while Ford, Carter and Reagan were presidents. Like I said, no danger of me being drafted.
          • floatingorb, on 04/16/2008, -7/+3@JohnReb: So then, are you saying that you are too old to 'flip burgers?' --It's coming as all the 'pimply faces' will be sent to die across the pond. Someone must keep the 'Burgermiesters' serviced/rich.
          • JohnReb, on 04/16/2008, -2/+10When you lose the argument on the facts, the adult thing to do is acknowledge it, the teenage thing to do is drop the subject, the childish thing to do is try to insult the person who showed you your error.

            By the way, my approximate age was pointed out in this thread many posts ago, you'd have figured it out if you had applied any actual thought to what I wrote.
          • floatingorb, on 04/17/2008, -5/+2@JohnReb
            I fail to see where I 'lost' the argument.
            I stated this: "The current *age* for the 'draft' is arbitrary and can easily be amended by congress/(martial law--executive order) as deemed *necessary*

            And you stated this: "The Selective Service law emplaces the mechanics for a draft....and would require an Act of Congress to restart."

            Where did I fail? Or did you misunderstand me {did I misspell 'as deemed *necessary*'}?
          • JohnReb, on 04/17/2008, -2/+6You lost it when you failed to grasp that the draft doesn't exist.
          • floatingorb, on 04/17/2008, -3/+1@JohnReb:
            Then what about the "Stop-loss policy"--The 'back-door' draft?
            Def: "involuntary extension" of a service member's initial active duty service obligation.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-loss_policy

            Selective Service is that 'sword of Damocles' hanging over everyone's head.---You stated that it would take an "act of Congress" to reinstate the draft. Granted. I stated it first and added two other options that can restart it (executive order/martial law). Congress can do things 'on a whim' like passing the USA Patriot Act without reading it/ domestic surveillance...and such.

            And ohh, did I not mention that the *age* for draft/conscription is arbitrary/subject to be anything when addressed by said "mechanics" which you pointed out to me?

            I would say 'checkmate' but (A) I doubt you play chess. And (B) This is getting boring and I wish to request an 'adjudication' of the game.
          • JohnReb, on 04/17/2008, -1/+2Executive orders can't restart the Draft, neither can martial law. Congress has to pass the law. Remember when the Republicans forced Charlie Rangel's (D) bill to a vote. He got so pissed. He accused the Republicans of playing dirty by making him actually vote on his own bill. It lost horribly, even Rangel refused to vote on it.

            The draft doesn't exist and no one is about to vote to restart one. Your position is devoid of supporting evidence.

            "Stop-loss" is part of the contract you sign when you enlist. As I recall, it's on the back of the form, 1 or 2 paragraphs above where you sign. My recruiter even explained it meant I could be keep in after my seperation date. That was 1975. If someone bothers to read the single page contract it's obvious. It's also been a fact of military life since about WW2. A couple of my friends were stoplossed back in the 80's because they were in shorthanded rates. If you don't want to be stoplossed, don't enlist. You knew it was a possibility before you signed up.

            But I guess, since I've repeatedly proven that the draft doesn't exist you have to move the goalposts and redefine the draft to protect your illusion
          • floatingorb, on 04/17/2008, -1/+1@JohnReb
            I resign. You win.
            Let us hope that procedure (concerning drafting) stays as it *appears* or that 'the rule of law' is followed. Perhaps it's just 'semantics' but I *thought* Congress had to authorize going to war in the first place. The term *war* has been used for years to skirt laws and erode civil liberties.

            I remember some of the Rangel debacle from listening to Limbaugh {nothing else to listen to here on the radio so If I'm outside *smoking* then I'll listen to see what the shills are saying}--As I recall, he introduced the bill to make a point and draw attention to an illegal and now admitted never-ending {Mcain's 100 years...make it a thousand comment} war. He was going to include women in the draft process wasn't he? That would certainly draw attention.

            p.s. You got "nasty" first with the implied insult of "What are you smoking?"
        • Groovemaster, on 04/14/2008, -7/+13"So if something (anything) happens, you get to claim you knew before hand."

          So the Bush administration are allowed to do that, but American people aren't.

          And when the Bush administration says there'll an attack and tells you who they believe will be responsible before it happens, they're right, but when the American people say there'll be an attack and tell you who they believe will be responsible, they're wrong.

          Now I understand... Thanks for clearing that up.
          • Kythas, on 04/16/2008, -3/+8And you have proof that the Bush Administration knew about 9/11 beforehand?
    • card51short, on 04/14/2008, -8/+18"For 7 years, you morons have been ranting about how the next 9/11 is coming. So, man the ***** up, and name a date, or forever be mocked as paranoid jackasses."

      Are you kidding me man? I'll show you 100 articles of mainstream sources saying another 911 is coming.
      I'll show you Michael Chertoff saying another 911 is coming.

      Now, this doesn't mean it is coming but why aren't you spending your time criticizing them? Oh right, they are part of the establishment.
      Right.
      • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -15/+11Ah, I see we're back to card-"I make things up to prove a point"-short

        Yep, they've been just as wrong as you guys are. But what does that have to do with anything?

        Anyway, please show me where I backed those theories.
    • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -7/+11@Hortnon

      Let me be more clear. The purpose of drawing attention to these things is specifically so that they DON'T happen. An aware populace is harder to deceive. If the "morons" WANTED these events to happen, they would leave well enough alone and stand by while the mainstream media does their own official "gut feeling" (Chertoff) Chicken Little routine.
      • Hortnon, on 04/14/2008, -14/+11So, a vague "SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE MAYBE SO WATCH OUT" is doing a public service?
        • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -5/+10False flag operations are a motivator for war. Problem -> Reaction -> Solution. Once the technique is apprehended it is easy to see how it is applied, regardless of the specific details (eg. 2 planes hit 2 towers = 3 towers come down Vegas-style).

          The point is that people should question the mouthpieces of these proven liars, lest in their ignorance or apathy they are roped even further along, serving someone else's agenda.
      • insane11, on 04/14/2008, -13/+12So when there is no "false flag", does that mean you truthers are going to boast about defeating the New World Order and preventing martial law?
        • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -6/+11Bolstering self image at the expense of others is a pretty petty motivation. I think if that's what folks were after, they'd be using a different channel. Rather, if I were to wager, people that are really passionate about this topic, share what they can about it in order to keep a clear conscience.

          But if it *was* just about childish pettiness, can you imagine the scenerio? "Every weekend I run around telling everyone I know: Hey! I stopped something that you weren't expecting in order to defeat something else that you don't believe in, and as a result I helped prevent something that you didn't see as a threat!" LOL!
  • stienster, on 04/14/2008, -5/+20I'm FURIOUS AT THESE EVIL CRAZY GODLESS MURDERING SOULLESS BASTARDS!!!!!! These demon controlled monkeys are going to do it AGAIN!!!! and yes, Cheney scares me more than any of them also. Please PRAY people. God has proved that He listens to the prayers of the righteous...
    • RayG68, on 04/14/2008, -4/+7yes, god's been such a great job so far...

      PEOPLE need to take history into their hands, not rely on some god delusion and stay put
      • stienster, on 04/14/2008, -7/+6I never said we should stay put. If we hadn't ostracized God to begin with, humanity wouldn't be in this mess.
        • Kizilbash, on 04/14/2008, -3/+7It's religious maniacs that blew up the WTC in the first place. No thanks.
          • 2trkpony, on 04/15/2008, -0/+7More lives have been lost in the name of 'religion' than anything else. O for the day when humankind grows up, realizes there is no 'god' and gets over the belief in mythical fairy tales.

            A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend.

            George Carlin - Religion is *****:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
            Amen.
            : )
  • kcornwell, on 04/14/2008, -9/+3The threats are real my friends. Very real.
    http://www.suicidecatbomber.com/
    • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -2/+6Faux Noise still calls him a 'homicide' cat bomber.
  • yellowcakewalk, on 04/14/2008, -4/+32Cheney and his minions are licking their chops, whispering the words "martial law" and savoring the sound of those two words.
  • USNavyBlue, on 04/14/2008, -2/+16April 19. Does the date have significance? It is the date of the firing of the “shot heard ’round the world,” the first shots in the American Revolution. On April 19, 1775, American Minutemen stood to protect arsenals they had created at Lexington and Concord, Massachusetts, against seizure by the British Army then occupying Boston.
    • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -0/+4April 19, 1993 Waco Holocaust
      April 19, 1995 Murrah Federal {false flag} destroying evidence of gulf war syndrome tests on prisoners in TX. and ringing in the 'Omnibus Crime Control Act' and all that it entailed.
  • insane11, on 04/14/2008, -12/+13Wait, I thought there was supposed to be a false flag attack last year... And the year before that... and in 2005... and before the 2004 elections...
    • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -2/+17If enough people recognize the historical precedents of the false flag paradigm (Problem -> Reaction -> Solution), it will be less and less useful as a technique to motivate the population towards war. In other words, the more awareness there is of it, the less likely it will be to occur.

      Anyway, 9/11 was plenty enough in my opinion.
  • brettzwo, on 04/14/2008, -1/+15Whoa...10 Billion to Pakistan in the last 7 years mustn't have been the right move by the current administration!
  • WiseWeasel, on 04/14/2008, -1/+13Translation: You people aren't panicky enough going into this election season. Only President McCain can protect you now...
    • Rotzooi, on 04/14/2008, -0/+7You, Weasel, are wise.
    • GlobalistShill, on 04/14/2008, -1/+6Agreed,... and on that note, Hillary "I love bush" Clinton would be no better. She's as establishment as they come, and remains a huge advocate of the "war on fear through physical aggression". All it would take is the right crisis, and mother dearest will be dressing us up and telling us to be good little boys and girls while we chant to in our merged US / UN outfit: "One.. Two.. Three.. Four.. I love marine corp!!! :) ! :)"
  • Rotzooi, on 04/14/2008, -0/+7Pakistan eh? I expect Cheney bought a few of those old Russian suitcase nukes and one of those will have a little 'accident' on American soil, just before the elections. Then, nuclear power Pakistan can be blamed. Musharraf is just as ***** as we are.
  • schroderr224, on 04/14/2008, -1/+6Oh no terrorism. Guess I'll have dinner.
  • zephyr42, on 04/14/2008, -0/+4Our economy has the possibility of going to ***** with the war we already have on our plates. If we went to another war, we would be ***** and I'm moving to Sweden.
  • Dumbledorito, on 04/14/2008, -1/+6Which M&M color is bad right now? I don't have my candy-coated alert widget installed yet...
  • dupswapdrop, on 04/14/2008, -0/+5Dick grab you're shotgun there's work to be done! And maybe we can get some squirrel stew out of this.
    • floatingorb, on 04/14/2008, -0/+3Blimey! I mean Blimey!! I don't eat squirrels do I? I mean; If I wanted to eat a squirrel every now and then, it's my business, isn't it? {Seriously though: Don't eat scrambled squirrel brains anymore--CJD/mad cow}
  • sfacets, on 04/14/2008, -1/+4Well now if there is a "9/11" we'll know for sure who did it - Bush.
  • why3th, on 04/14/2008, -1/+2This isn't the way in which Martial Law will be imposed, as my fellow diggers seem to believe. If we are to credit the current administration with the vast destruction of our civil liberties, we must give them credit that enacting Martial Law in this manner is incredibly naive. Why change their tactics when stealing our rights slowly and one at a time has proven to be far more effective than prying our rights from our hands?
    • Dumbledorito, on 04/15/2008, -0/+3You seem to have missed the bit where all of their well-crafted plans include an explosion or other violence that ***** the whole thing up, because they apparently base their predictions of the future on action movies.
  • Picaroon, on 04/14/2008, -10/+5How many times will you guys wrongly predict upcoming fascist takeover? How many times will you say that an attack on Iran is imminent? Will you at least look back in a year and realize how stupid you were posting this drivel over and over, or will you have moved on to the next popular conspiracy?

    The latter is my guess.
  • jlhoben, on 04/14/2008, -0/+6Was he looking at his day planner when he said this?
  • jerryparid, on 04/14/2008, -1/+5America is like a big bad pit bull messing with a pack of chihuahua. Republicans thinks that of you keep on messing with them, they will just endure it; nothing will happen. But they are gravely wrong. Even a pack of chihuahua will rise up and come after the pit bull sooner or later. Blood is the currency of revenge.
  • onetimer, on 04/15/2008, -7/+6Oh noes! I better buy some alex jones DVD's and subcribe to his newsletter or otherwise i'll be sent to the FEMA camps!

    ...Buried as more alexjones/PP fear mongering.

    Hell, i'll use my ☣SUPER☣ bury just to make sure...
    • card51short, on 04/15/2008, -1/+3wait where is anything mentioned about prison planet?
      Is Bush working with prison planet now?
      Get over your obsession with Alex Jones and get on with your life.

      I know, I know...he actually CHARGES for services on his website...totally criminal
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