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- debunkthelies, on 01/04/2009, -0/+20It never fails to astonish me how far the state will go to push their propaganda of safety.
- inactive, on 01/04/2009, -0/+15Those brits have government tyranny down to a science like none other. Then again they've had hundreds of years to practice and perfect it. Of course our beloved bastards in DC are doing their best to keep up. Keep a virus on your system with a provocative name that some buttplugged gubbmint minion will just have to upload.
Amazing how hacking is OK when it's done by the government. Then again, maybe that sort of thing is more tolerated over there. Lord knows they've put up with more even more ***** than we have. Seems like governments all over Earth are just begging for a revolution from their people. The Greeks have the ball rolling... - mcla007, on 01/04/2009, -0/+13FTA: "A remote search can be granted if a senior officer says he “believes” that it is “proportionate” and necessary to prevent or detect serious crime.."
Come now, if you can't trust a "senior" officer's intestinal intuitions who can you trust?
"However, opposition MPs and civil liberties groups say that the broadening of such intrusive surveillance powers should be regulated by a new act of parliament and court warrants."
See they aren't against you getting screwed. They want to screw you the right, legal way, with regulatory safeguards--regulation which will be enforced by, you guessed it, senior officers with deep intestinal intuitions. That should make you feel safe.
"Police say that such methods are necessary to investigate suspects who use cyberspace to carry out crimes. These include paedophiles, internet fraudsters, identity thieves and terrorists."
There you have it: the mother lode of all excuses in one sentence. How can one disagree? - inactive, on 01/04/2009, -0/+11Way to breed dissent amongst the people
- borez, on 01/04/2009, -0/+8Not really, the vast majority of the British public will just roll over, take it up the arse and then go back to getting their world view from The Daily Mail and The ***** Sun...like they do with everything else.
/a British Subject. - Observant1, on 01/04/2009, -0/+8people will start running linux from a live-cd on their machines, and naturally, they will automatically become suspects.
- TheOneTrueGod, on 01/04/2009, -0/+8Same thing was established in Germany.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online-Durchsuchung - joshstone100, on 01/04/2009, -0/+8It's like arguing against breathing clean air. For the children! For a safer world! (cue Jon Lovitz voice) "Yeah, that's the ticket!!!"
- Observant1, on 01/04/2009, -0/+6"Police say that such methods are necessary to investigate suspects who use cyberspace to carry out crimes. These include paedophiles, internet fraudsters, identity thieves and terrorists."
how often are those paedo's terrorists and fraudsters, police or government officials? - GlitchKitty, on 01/04/2009, -0/+6Sadly, this is true. Even if those papers or others reported it, few people would get outraged, let alone enough to do anything about it. I can just hear them all chanting "Nothing to fear if you've got nothing to hide" ...
- Alphabet, on 01/04/2009, -0/+5LMAO, if you live in the UK then anyone in the European Union can now snoop into your computer. Britain has got to be the most retarded police state I've ever seen.
- terrab0t, on 01/04/2009, -0/+5These are the only specific details they give on how the Police would "hack" your machine. These are only the well educated guesses of somebody at Cambridge, but I can't think of anything he's missed. From the article:
"He said the authorities could break into a suspect’s home or office and insert a “key-logging” device into an individual’s computer. This would collect and, if necessary, transmit details of all the suspect’s keystrokes. “It’s just like putting a secret camera in someone’s living room,” he said.
Police might also send an e-mail to a suspect’s computer. The message would include an attachment that contained a virus or “malware”. If the attachment was opened, the remote search facility would be covertly activated. Alternatively, police could park outside a suspect’s home and hack into his or her hard drive using the wireless network."
The first one is pretty worriesome for my one desktop PC that stays at home while I'm out. I don't regularily look behind it to see if somebody's tacked something like this on. If it were something that transmitted its findings regularily they would have a lot of passwords and other sensitive stuff. I would be mighty pissed to find one and would undertake a massive offsite backup and local purge just before destroying it, but by that point they would already have tons of private stuff. The only comfort is that this requres a home invasion and these new powers are for cases where they cannot get a warrant for something the average person would be appalled by.
The other two measures will only work if you have an open wireless network, a Windows machine and are still stupid enough to run email attachements. I would not be nailed by any of that and since they need a warrant to do any real intrusion the idle investigation would probably end there. Average people, on the other hand, would become victims of this. I can laugh smugly that none of this will ever affect tech savvy people like me, but it really isn't fare that one of the threats others face when embracing new technology is the police. - borez, on 01/04/2009, -0/+5Agreed: "Nothing to fear if you've got nothing to hide" seems to be the standard argument down the local pub by the muppets who regurgitate every bit of world affairs knowledge from a recent headline tabloid story.
- weeFred, on 01/04/2009, -0/+5This is crazy, how did Brussels get this much power? Theres no way something like this should be introduced without first going through the commons (where it would get voted down in a second). Is this just the first in many civil rights violating laws to come from the EU? I don't like to sound like a conspiracy loon, but this sounds like what a lot of people have been saying would happen.
- ExRe, on 01/05/2009, -0/+4MAC address filtering is next to useless you know...pretty much every wireless card can either have their MAC address changed or spoofed with some simple tools.
"Nice and juicy linux firewall server" says nothing about security, and all your silly little notification will do is let you know when an idiot is trying to bruteforce access to the system (which likely it wouldn't allow anyways). Only the script kiddies would try to hack your system by guessing the password.
That last part makes no sense. If they would send you a virus by email, you would alter it to turn it into a worm? Just by that alone I am guessing you have no friggin clue about the difference between a virus and a worm. - gusmac, on 01/04/2009, -0/+4Thin end of the wedge (and it seems to be an incredibly long, thin wedge!!!)
We're now meant sit and smile while they sneak in the Treaty of Lisbon without a referendum... Doesn't that give you a warm fuzzy feeling!? - hostpure, on 01/05/2009, -3/+6All I can say is: "Good luck with that". The police or anybody for that matter are more than welcome to try and gain access to my network and computer systems. Wireless access is restricted by mac address and the network is secured with a nice and juicy linux firewall server. The only system on the DMZ is setup as a honey pot. More than 5 incorrect login attempts to any of the computers or the wireless network and I get notified by SMS immediately.
I would love for them to park up outside and try snooping. Out comes the baseball bat and it is a citizens arrest for the officer, front page of the papers (and maybe top of digg?) for me hehe.
As for sending virii by email, I am more than happy to reverse engineer and send them back to them with my own alterations. Would look good as a headline: "Police network in chaos thanks to variant.worm.UK.Police(TM)' - LittleDas, on 01/04/2009, -0/+1way to go UK...
- jamcubed, on 01/04/2009, -0/+1ffs...
- cJw314, on 01/05/2009, -1/+1ExRe; as correct as you may be, due to your tone we all know you still have a little dick.
- borez, on 01/04/2009, -3/+3You ain't getting through my double firewall little pig...no matter how hard you try.
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