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- QuixoticNoob, on 11/18/2007, -21/+137Hay, I have an idea the U.S. should leave too, maybe it would go down another 90%
- aussieNickuss, on 11/18/2007, -11/+104"it’s like a class that won’t behave for a substitute teacher." - That is the perfect analogy of the current occupation in Iraq.
- captbbq, on 11/18/2007, -8/+61If an insurgent kills a man in Basra and there no foreign troops to see it, recover the body, record the incident, does it really happen? Well, statistically speaking, apparently not.
- Sogui, on 11/18/2007, -16/+57Wow, ANOTHER misleading title on Digg?
"Attacks against British and Iraqi forces have plunged by 90 percent in southern Iraq since London withdrew its troops from the main city of Basra, the commander of British forces there said Thursday."
Attacks against British and Iraqi forces plummet after a majority of British troops LEAVE THE COUNTRY? WHODATHUNK IT!?
Most violence in Iraq is sectarian, the US could pull out of Iraq and claim ATTACKS AGAINST US TROOPS IN IRAQ DROP 100%, but that doesn't mean a civil war wouldn't break out and undo the toil and blood that Americans have paid to stabilize the country for the past few years. - GuacamoleSan, on 11/18/2007, -16/+55But if the U.S. leaves, then all of our hard imperialism was for nothing
- skews13, on 11/18/2007, -4/+27my nephew just got back from ar-ramahdi,al-anbar.the way he puts it to me is it's like chasing drug dealers from one neighborhood to another.the insurgents there weren't passified.they simply picked up shop and moved to the outskirts of baghdad.it's the ultimate whack a mole game.it becomes an issue of strategy.not one of over whelming force.the latter only works against standing armies in the field
- SEN5241, on 11/18/2007, -1/+23Uh... it doesn't. That was my point. The American troops were never in Basra -- the British took control there after the initial invasion.
- Nefarion, on 11/18/2007, -3/+20Further, who gives a ***** if Qpok's comments were confirmed true?
Let the Iraqis run their own joint the way they want. What Qpok has described is no worse than your average day in Riyadh? - allywilson, on 11/18/2007, -13/+30Wow that was...pointless. Why did you appear to be quoting - when no source was listed? Nevermind a credible one.
"Qpok is actually quite correct and knows everything about the current situation in Basra." - see what I did there? - JesperL, on 11/18/2007, -3/+20Well, to be fair, the previous teacher was a bit of a douche.
- Qpok, on 11/18/2007, -38/+54Hardly true.
"Signs ordering women to cover up appear throughout the city. One woman, an Iraqi female activist from Basra, says the notices even threaten death. One banner, she says, said unveiled women could be murdered and no one could remove their bodies from the street." I doupt this is the freedom the ordinary people want. Now that the troops have left the strict religious leaders have once again taken order.
"Public parties are banned. Selling musical CDs is forbidden in shops. Those who sell or consume alcohol face recrimination, even death. Artists and performers are severely restricted and even labeled as heretics. A famous city landmark, a replica of the Lion of Babylon statue that stood here for decades was blown up by militants in July. It was considered idolatrous, according to the strict interpretation of Islam." - SEN5241, on 11/18/2007, -10/+24A 90% reduction sounds impressive. Of course, no one considers the option that the insurgents left Basra because there are still American troops to harass in other parts of Iraq.
- manicleek, on 11/18/2007, -1/+15British troops havn't left the country
- rawkes, on 11/18/2007, -1/+15...but he did, everyone knows that already
- jetboyterp, on 11/18/2007, -15/+29How then do you explain violence in Anbar Province dropping dramatically after the troop surge?
- sivsta, on 11/18/2007, -3/+16Basra still has extremist elements in it. We'll see how the violence fares over time. Also, it sucks if you are a woman there, I heard its just getting worse for them.
- Sublime059, on 11/18/2007, -2/+15I'm sure they actually know how to spell credible so I think I'll stick to them as a credible news source and continue to call you a stupid ***** moron.
- Ramble, on 11/18/2007, -6/+19I heard this on Radio 4 the other day, I'd say that's pretty credible. However, one of the reasons high ranking officials put down is the British occupation. As soon as we're gone hopefully the police force will sort it out.
- source1984, on 11/18/2007, -2/+13From a Muslim perspective... U.S. troops will do nothing to make the situation better. NOTHING.
This is a matter of religious interpretation. Now what you do is you allow moderate Muslims to gain some more influence. If its Shiite, have some big Imam come in. Ask Iran for help -- this is their expertise.
In the end, women wearing veils IS NOT TH END OF THE WORLD. There are children dying in Africa for God's sake. Go deliver them food you American superheroes! Leave the feminist in Basra and the situation will slowly change itself. Basra is not Afghanistan. - Sogui, on 11/18/2007, -3/+13Stabilized is a relative term, things are getting better... but they could get a whole helluva lot worse.
- snypa, on 11/18/2007, -1/+11You said :"Now that the troops have left the strict religious leaders have once again taken order." But when previously did religious leaders rule in Iraq? Definitely not during Saddams time, where the nation was mostly secular. Though women were absed etc. by his regime.
- ploke, on 11/18/2007, -3/+13it was not for nothing. Companies like Halliburton made a ton of taxpayer money off of it.
- blackjack75, on 11/18/2007, -3/+12I don't agree with women having to wear one clothing or another, but I certainly wouldn't send my troops in to change that. If Iraqi women want freedom let them fight for it, just like they did over here.
- iticu, on 11/18/2007, -3/+12Want a hug?
- postaldave, on 11/18/2007, -26/+34dailykos?
lmao, yeah that is a creditable news source. - Fordi, on 11/18/2007, -2/+10'cept they don't. And they like it that way. Who are we to tell them differently?
- whandsfield, on 11/18/2007, -1/+9Good thing America is still there to solve all the problems. I have an idea, let's fix some bridges in the US before we go off a-nation-building next time. Waste of lives and treasure, the whole damn enterprise.
- brownb2, on 11/18/2007, -0/+7Besides, when their society is really ready to come out of its dark ages it will - it's just the school bullies running the joint because the teacher left the classroom. They will have their civil wars and revolution when they are fed up enough, and we shouldn't get involved lest they blame us for their own internal problems.
- basex, on 11/18/2007, -6/+13the problem now for Bush to leave Iraq it's a question of honor, he sees that as saying to the world that he made a mistake
- HolemCross, on 11/18/2007, -1/+8You are assuming that Bush still has honor.
- iticu, on 11/18/2007, -5/+12It's nit even an official war, it's either just a invasion or an illegal war.
- ad33lshahid, on 11/18/2007, -0/+7you can't apply your own definition of what is right and what is wrong to everyone. there are plenty of people that DO want a religious state. stop equating freedom with scantily clad women. for some people freedom means the freedom to raise their children in a society that doesn't share the same values as the West.
- Charlotte_Web, on 11/18/2007, -4/+11He's quoting the Christian Science Monitor.
http://digg.com/world_news/Shiite_Taliban_rises_as ... - Adamande, on 11/18/2007, -0/+6Ok, great. Getting dugg down for telling the truth:
"The number of Iraqis fleeing their homes has soared since the American troop increase began in February, according to data from two humanitarian groups, accelerating the partition of the country into sectarian enclaves."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/24/world/middleeast ...
"What (Rick) Rowley and his cohorts found in Anbar is that the Sunnis cooperating with the U.S. have forced Shia residents of the province to relocate, and those who did (rather than die) are living in squalid conditions in camps outside Sunni areas"
http://watchingthewatchers.org/news/1303/exactly-r ...
"In any case, the mass migrations could mean that Iraq's political groups will have little incentive to compromise with one another, as they separate into their enclaves. For example, at least 761 families have settled in Baghdad after moving from Anbar Province and other Sunni-dominated areas to the west, according to Iraqi government statistics. The same is happening on the Sunni Arab end — there are reports of 50 families moving from Baghdad to the Sunni enclave of Falluja."
http://fairuse.100webcustomers.com/nws/nytimes32.h ...
"And in Anbar Province, where there has been success, all of the Shiites are gone. They've simply split."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,5 ... - warriorscot, on 11/18/2007, -0/+6That is unlikely for a number of reasons, that 90% was almost exclusively people taking pot shots at the resupply convoys for the palace, Britain also didnt leave basra they left the palace in the centre of the city and still control the airport base, they are however leaving allot of the ground work to the Iriaqi army and police who should be the ones doing it everywhere in Iraq anyway.
- inactive, on 11/18/2007, -2/+8Wait, so you're saying we're doing all the work of an imperial power and yet aren't reaping the benefits? Man, what a rip-off.
- Sublime059, on 11/18/2007, -0/+6"by postaldave 2 hours ago
dailykos?
lmao, yeah that is a creditable news source."
Don't you have anything better to do than post the same thing under multiple names? ***** loser. BTW LEARN TO SPELL, THANKS. - archiesteel, on 11/18/2007, -1/+7Actually, notque is a very rational, respectful poster. You, on the other hand, are an spiteful, ignorant fool. I shudder at the thought that you actually have had kids. I hope they turn out better than you did.
- empraptor, on 11/18/2007, -1/+6How about it sucks if you're there at all? But really are we going to go around the world shooting people until there's no one left whose life sucks?
- HollowMarkeD, on 11/18/2007, -1/+6Can't understand the phrase "libtards"; liberalism is the cornerstone for capitalism, free speech and more. To be against liberalism is to be in favour for dictatorships and authoritarian regimes. Does it have some other meaning in the US? Or are you actually in favour of a more dictatorship style of government, like Bush/Cheney are accused of?
- DesuKN, on 11/18/2007, -1/+6http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/11/15/africa/M ...
Try again - notque, on 11/18/2007, -3/+8Known Troll
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I could go on.... - chuckpoole, on 11/18/2007, -1/+6It depends on what kind of violence you want to measure: Insurgent violence or criminal violence. Certainly if there is no one to fight you won't have any violence. Political statisticians like to throw out numbers to push their agenda whether it is left or right. You can never truly tell what is credible unless you know the source of the metrics and how they were obtained. Of course with Digg, you can quote or piggyback any story and it is true and hell to those who disagree.
- brjohnson789, on 11/18/2007, -8/+13Dailykos isn't really a 'news' source, its a blog of sorts. HOWEVER, the facts referenced in the dailykos little article are from a newspaper with 'sources' and all. Your comment is BURIED for attempting to belittle the facts in this story.
- Kelmon, on 11/18/2007, -0/+4It should be noted that their lives sucked AFTER we invaded. It's not like we've improved things. If you're a woman in Basra today the invasion has made things WORSE.
- notque, on 11/18/2007, -1/+5Aging suburban father's don't speak like this, only quite mentally ill people do,
"So you would support an invasion of saudi arabia? No? Well then shut your ***** mouth and place the blame where it belongs ISLAM and backwards sandpeople."
"Its ok for muslims to kill people because its part of their culture and we would want to offend their culture..."
"Sounds like a plan. Lets round up the rednecks, muslims, scientologists and make this country a better place to live."
"Will history hold the iraqis accountable for being a bunch of sectarian morons who cant seem to extract their korans from their rectums?"
"Someone should send this to all the peta members and watch as they starve to death hahahahaa"
"I just love all the anti-american 13 year olds on digg. Why do you get such a boner when something bad happens to your country? I just dont get it."
If you are an "aging suburban father" then you are the most immature, crass, racists, and idiotic aging suburban father I've ever spoken to. - jetboyterp, on 11/18/2007, -0/+4@ramble
Congress overwhelmingly approved military action in Iraq. - inactive, on 11/18/2007, -2/+6Why are the neo-con bush bot comments getting dugg up?
- Retnuh730, on 11/18/2007, -1/+5We should report this guy to the FBI or something.
- inactive, on 11/18/2007, -5/+9If it's illegal, how come no one's taken the issue up at court? They've had 5 years.
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