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- Laminarcissus, on 05/05/2009, -1/+20I used to be a paperboy for the Boston Globe. I'm a little concerned that my outrageous salary demands for the Framingham Pleasant Street Route in 1974 may have triggered the downward spiral.
- CaptainPlanet, on 05/04/2009, -1/+16wow. the seattle pi is gone from dailey circulation, and now the globe is threated? the times are changing indeed.
- inactive, on 05/04/2009, -8/+21Like many other "news" papers across the country and especially the NYT, if the good people of Boston thought that The Globe was of any value (beyond the proverbial bird cage liner) to the community they would be supporting it.
As with each of the other failing fish wrappers they are so invested in their own agenda rather than the jobs they originally were intended to perform their value over all to the community has evaporated. Being so narrow sighted, they can't see the forest for the trees, they have virtually destroyed themselves.
Now, if we could just get the politicians in both parties to do the same thing we might be able to salvage our own country before it too befalls the same fate. - morningmatters, on 05/05/2009, -1/+11With the death of newspapers you can only expect that local corruption will rise through the roof. Without the Globe reporting that local politicians are using loopholes to pad thousands of thousands into their pensions a year this practice will continue. Without the Herald (yes, it's conservative and owned by Murdoch) reporting that the local Toll Both collector are making average 90k a year you would not get the same level of outrage demanding reforms for MTA. For those who actually read local newspapers, it's should not be that hard to find examples why local newspapers are valuable to local communities. There are always "free" news from AP and reuters but rarely that is ever relevant to local politicians, local artists, and local events.
One can only hope that the internet and bloggers can deliver what local newspapers have been traditionally doing for the communities, for free. But I doubt the former would have nearly as much influence. - Raisedshoulder, on 05/05/2009, -0/+9As long as their big picture site does not go down that's all that matters.
- briarmoss, on 05/05/2009, -1/+9The boston globe is a really good birdcage liner though! My parrot loves to ***** on family circus on sundays.
- FatBurger, on 05/05/2009, -1/+8The newspaper isn't a huge loss, but the Globe has had some of the best news photography online for a while now. I would really hate to lose that.
- 3rdDay, on 05/05/2009, -0/+6I find it difficult to foresee what internet based model could replace the local press - or indeed much of investigative journalism. Somehow I just can't see armies of citizen bloggers making the biweekly trip to four hour council meetings just so they can type up a 140 word post that maybe 50 people read. It's not losing papers that bother me, it's losing reporting. Perhaps we just have to get used to a lower level of independent and impartial oversight of politicians and administrators, particularly at local/regional level.
- av4rice, on 05/05/2009, -7/+11What the hell is a "newspaper" ?
- morningmatters, on 05/05/2009, -2/+6What a loaded and ignorant comment. It's silly to attribute Globe's fall to anything other than the newspaper's failed business plans. After all, it's still just a business.
As for the value of the Globe, if you actually read it recently you would know that because of its reporting on how state reps use loopholes to boost their pensions many of the corrupt politicians in the state are forced to give back millions in tax-payer money. Without newspapers like the Globe (and of course the conservative Herald as well) reporting, corruption in the state will no doubt rise through the roof. - lhbaker, on 05/05/2009, -0/+3Newspapers, like magazines, are a place where journalists work, and, as a general rule, facts are checked. Not to be confused with blogs.
- rolf, on 05/05/2009, -1/+4Hopefully newspapers won't be bailed out.
While I was typing in "Boston Globe" into search, Google's second suggestion was "Boston Globe Obituaries". How appropriate. - NorthMass, on 05/05/2009, -3/+6If it can't make money, its time to go. Please don't nationalize this particular industry, because then we have state controlled news.
- pixelate, on 05/05/2009, -0/+3comment abuse:
http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2009/05/05 ...
3 of 4 unions have agreed to terms, talks are going to resume with the 4th. - alkidance, on 05/05/2009, -2/+5What? No more Big Picture? Oh noessssssssssssss!! /sadface
- tgc1, on 05/05/2009, -0/+3I just hope that photo site doesn't go down. They have some of the best photographic coverage around.
- RocketGib, on 05/05/2009, -1/+3Next week's news: "News Corp could file shutdown notice on Monday"
- MelvinSchlubman, on 05/05/2009, -0/+2No, raggsat98 was first.
- stonewaljacksn, on 05/05/2009, -0/+2The sad part is that without legitimate news outlets like the Globe we are subjected to "print-is-dead" blogs and that is terrifying.
- moose26, on 05/06/2009, -0/+1One of my best friends is a union worker and i am not taking sides on the union thing, but he works his ass off due to what he learned from his father. Hard work is in its way, its own reward. He is pretty well off in life. A nice little house, a car with his partner that they share and a job doing steelwork that pays well.
He sees others who slack off but he keeps on truckin along and working hard. Its sad when some folks give others a bad name with lazy behavior. I would like to think you earn the right to keep your job vs being handed a lifetime freebie. - Laminarcissus, on 05/05/2009, -0/+1No son -- your mother and I were just two ships passing in the night.
Your father is the man who raised you, who tended to your skinned knee and bought you a six-pack of meth on prom night. I can't interfere with that. He's the one you should call "Dad."
Forget about me boy. Forget about me. - 420greg, on 05/05/2009, -1/+2Its the lifetime job guarantees the globe is trying to shed.
Has soon as a union worker earns one of these contracts they stop working.
You be lucking to see them 10 hours a week. And they make like 200k a year. - Rain12913, on 05/05/2009, -0/+1Dad?
- these3remain, on 05/06/2009, -1/+2"state controlled news" - you mean like the mainstream media? John Kerry wanted bailout money for the Globe...that speaks volumes.
- inactive, on 05/04/2009, -8/+9Agreed. No-one cares about the Boston Globe because they don't deliver a product that anyone wants to buy. A lot of us have seen this coming from far off.
- IDroppedMyBeer, on 05/05/2009, -0/+1Truth. If the paper goes under so do your favorite pre-loaded slideshows.
- perrym, on 05/05/2009, -0/+1there is no chance of that happening.
- sciencelovesyou, on 05/05/2009, -1/+2@friday1970: Yes, yes, it's all some sort of political thing, the same way that the proud conservative horse was put-to-pasture (heh) by the sinister liberal automobile.
- kolobcreek, on 05/05/2009, -2/+3I have no idea what they print their paper but I agree. If people don't buy it its because its crap. Or they don't like having to wash their hands after they read it? But if the government saves it I say they should bring back the teletype and telegraph, and the &@!) !)4M pony express.
- mincman, on 05/05/2009, -2/+2I think you're grossly oversimplifying things here. And don't have a clue what you're talking about. These “fishwrappers” are a pretty vital part of the news cycle and most other news organizations get stories and information from them. Pay more attention when you read online news (if you do) and you’ll see many of them say something along the lines of “The New York Times wrote today” or “The Washington Post wrote today”. And if you actually read the Globe you’d probably be able to provide more constructive criticism of what’s wrong with it.
Try educating yourself, friend, rather than spouting ignorance:
http://breakinglunch.blogspot.com/2009/03/death-of ... - Scanner, on 05/05/2009, -3/+3I've never understood why unions fight to lose thier jobs?
Business: We will go out of business and you will all lose your jobs if you don't take these conecessions
Union: F U, WE DESERVE MORE
Business: Ok, good luck at your next job kthxbi - lordmike, on 05/05/2009, -3/+3To all the right wingers getting excited, be aware that the L.A. Times and the Chicago Tribune are next... they are really hurting financially... and Murdoch's newspapers never made any money, but he never cared... they were loss leaders for Fox News...
- NorthMass, on 05/05/2009, -3/+3"State owned news obviously equals state controlled news."
Yes, yes it does. No matter what PBS broadcasts, it is state funded/controlled news. - ohreilly, on 05/05/2009, -3/+3State owned news obviously equals state controlled news.
Two such institutions are the BBC and Channel 4, both of whom show contempt to the government and its ministers on a regular basis (while maintaining impartiality) - glenneroo, on 05/05/2009, -1/+1wtf is "as well as contract changes, particularly the elimination of lifetime job guarantees enjoyed by about 190 Guild employees" ????????????
Does that mean 190 people working there have a job as long as the Globe exists? No wonder that ***** stinks! - Landthatilove, on 05/05/2009, -1/+1So...
- slickmick, on 05/05/2009, -1/+1The corrupt, lying MSM is dying. Good!
They never investigated Oklahoma City. They never investigated 9/11. They never questioned the Federal Reserve. So anyone who gets their worldview from the Boston Globe gets it from news-liars. - madwaxer, on 05/05/2009, -1/+1shut the papers down already. they don't print anything which can't be found online anyway.
they are better off doing podcasts of the news articles and selling them at 2 cents an article or something.
not that that won't still be subject to getting played load enough for more than 1 person to hear. lol
just close already! - gkiltz, on 05/05/2009, -2/+1They COULD!
But they have admitted that it was the "Washington Monument Game."
They had no intention of actually doing it.
Even when they eventually do shut it down, it won't be like that!
Everyone will realize it's inevitable, and it will probably be overdue! - manatee, on 05/05/2009, -2/+1lol a newspaper is something you see at your grandma's house... or in the trash can.
- friday1970, on 05/05/2009, -3/+1Sciencelovesyou (and you too),
Explain why the newspapers have a liberal slant. - Bohicket, on 05/05/2009, -4/+1What is silly is to not acknowledge that turning off "half" your customer base by insulting them with a constant liberal slant would be bad for your business. It's also silly to think that unions shouldn't give major concessions to help ride out really lean times.
- kolobcreek, on 05/05/2009, -8/+4Make money or DIE!!!! Just don't steal my !~#@$ money from me through the federal government.
- manatee, on 05/05/2009, -8/+1Massive Fail. Good riddance to the newspapers... they deserve it
- friday1970, on 05/05/2009, -8/+1Isn't it funny how liberal newspapers cater to liberals who think they are entitled to everything for free, the same ones who prefer to watch either comedians for news or get it free online?
You'd think the Boston Times were actively trying to build a business model for failure.
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