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- Surferess, on 07/30/2008, -0/+77A $20,000 fine for uploading a file onto youtube? That's outrageous!
- leetdood, on 07/31/2008, -1/+52***** you, Industry Minister Jim Prentice.
You're supposed to protect Canadian industries, not bend over backwards for American ones. - netneutrality, on 07/31/2008, -0/+30"An anti-circumvention clause in the bill would make it illegal to break digital locks on copyrighted material"
Ouch.... that's badly thought-out. Supposing the media has a lock, but no actual encryption? I'm trying to think of a more relevant Canadian example but in the UK you can watch BBC shows online on its iPlayer site. There are two modes: downloaded video in DRM-protected Windows Media format, with a 7-day expiry to stop you keeping it, or streaming Flash video played in-browser. The Flash video mode has no option to save the files, but the video stream is not encrypted at all. So what if I modified Firefox to save the stream to the cache? Or set it to use a custom proxy server programmed to save the stream to disk? Or what if I just happened to use some pre-existing proxy, or browser, or router, or network driver, that logs and saves traffic somewhere?
So now what? I have a completely DRM-free Flash video file that I can watch whenever I want. Did I break a digital lock?
Or for a less technical example, the content displayed on your screen and played through your speakers is not "locked", or your eyes and ears wouldn't be able to make sense of it. What if you just set up a camera in front of it? Is that illegal? - lucy22, on 07/31/2008, -0/+29It is not too late to protest this. It is to start in September. Here are links to help you protest this. If enough people protest against it, it may fail. So, please be active and check these links out.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683
http://www.copyrightforcanadians.ca/?page_id=45 - inactive, on 07/31/2008, -0/+29This copyright bill looks very restrictive, people better wake up soon.
- Biggityb78, on 07/30/2008, -0/+23Absolutely ridiculous!!!!
- tombkilla, on 07/31/2008, -1/+23Just nestling in between Emperor Bush's ***** on our way to the 51st state. Viceroy Harper has done his master well, hasn't he?
- inactive, on 07/30/2008, -1/+23omg..thats gonna suck big time!
- xoxuxox, on 07/31/2008, -1/+21http://www.ic.gc.ca/epic/site/crp-prda.nsf/en/rp01 ...
Format Shifting: Limitations: "With respect to audiovisual material such as films, the format-shifting provision would apply only to videocassettes and would not allow you to make copies of material stored on other media, such as DVDs."
So taking a DVD and ripping it to VHS is illegal? That doesn't even make any sense! - MacBookForMe, on 07/31/2008, -1/+19Let's oppose those bastards!
- burninlover, on 07/31/2008, -0/+18Just another way to get money out of us. This bill is beyond stupid!
- TalSiach, on 07/31/2008, -0/+14This copyright bill will hurt a lot of teachers as the professor says. Seems like there is time to still vote against this.
- HuskyPuzzle, on 07/31/2008, -0/+14Don't just be pissed! Do something! In case you missed the links on Lucy's comment...
http://www.copyrightforcanadians.ca/?page_id=45
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6315846683 - SmokedL, on 07/31/2008, -0/+14We are seeing a rash of new draconian laws being implemented worldwide.
Personal integrity is getting flushed.
Absurd laws that severely restricts what you are allowed to do with your own property are being implemented.
Fair use is all but gone.
Copyright is extended to absolutely absurd periods.
Private information is being freely given to private corporations by ISPs.
ISPs are blatantly blocking or degrading traffic that is perfectly legal.
Threat letters are sent by ISPs to customers based on nothing but the world of private corporations.
Copyright infringers are given fines for copying a few files that literally leaved them in debt for life.
And for what? So that record companies can keep their obsolete business model on life support for just a little bit longer?
This has got to stop. - ironeus, on 08/01/2008, -0/+10& just a month away from going into effect!
- dogsop, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7I don't believe he bent over backwards, I believe he bent over and grabbed his ankles.
- icndvl, on 07/31/2008, -0/+7So if I sing happy birthday and put it on youtube that means I can get fined for $20,000?
- pigfister, on 07/31/2008, -0/+6lets not for get who is actually behind the bill, the MPAA - RIAA these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways.
Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the ***** capitalist corporate globalist wankers from bad press.
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX. - lucy22, on 07/31/2008, -1/+7Mirror
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:http://www.qu ... - kibbledbits, on 07/31/2008, -1/+7Canada's laws are pretty bad when it comes to this sort of thing. In Canada they also tax all optical media and write huge checks to the record industries basically treating everyone as a criminal upfront.
Why does it seem that Canada gets the worst of American and UK laws? - Nesh, on 07/31/2008, -0/+6Good thing this is a Canadian Law discussed on a Canadian website.
- diggydougie, on 07/31/2008, -2/+8I'm so glad that this is a Canadian bill and not American. Sorry Canada. Really, sorry.
- krnldmp, on 07/31/2008, -0/+6Who would have thought government would be the most life threatening disease of the 21st century?
- impei, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5Mirror
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:http://www.qu ... - ayeroxor, on 07/31/2008, -1/+6"New Copyright bill could severely Restrict teaching, "
The worst thing about the bill is that it demands the word "Restrtict" always be capitalized. That's tyranny! - asnider, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5I've already written letters to several politicians (the PM, the Ministers behind this bill, and my own MP). None of them seemed to care. Basically, protests don't seem to work. Still, I'm hopeful that more and more people will voice their discontent and the bill will fail to make it through the house without at least some revisions.
Canadians managed to kill an earlier bill that was essentially the same as this one, hopefully, we can make our voices heard and kill this one, too.
If nothing else, I'm hoping that the Senate will look at this, say it sucks, and send it make to the lower house for revisions. - P522, on 07/31/2008, -0/+5Do you know about the TEACH act in the U.S.? Technolgy, Education and Copyright Harmonization Act? Meant to help online distance education institutions, but so restrictive no universities can actually implement it in order to safely post some sorts of digital materials in online classes, especially video clips. This Canada bill seems to be based on the U.S. law.
See the checklist at the end of this summary:
http://www.utsystem.edu/ogc/IntellectualProperty/T ... - drunknmunky1, on 07/31/2008, -0/+4Good to see other people at my university care about this horrible bill that they're trying to pass. Hopefully the fact that universities are concerned gives some more legitimacy to the opposition of the bill so people don't think it's just a bunch of teenagers who want to download free music that are against this.
- drunknmunky1, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5Stephen Harper and Jim Prentice.
- fuhcough, on 07/31/2008, -1/+5no it's saying that copying VHS tapes is legal, but copying DVDs is illegal.
hmm wait a tick, that still makes no sense... - belowir, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3I don't think Americans have it really great either when it comes to copyright laws and the RIAA, but ya this still sucks for us Canadians
- PAStheLoD, on 07/31/2008, -1/+4Oh well, it's time "freedom fighters" (independent artists, F/OSS folk, anyone not branded by a RIAA/MPAA authorized Citizen chip, etc..) perpare some underground tunnels and complexes, in a few years it'll be very unhospitable on the surface. Someone please bring some beer too.
- enri, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3It means you cannot rip your DVD to your iPod. You have to buy it twice, once on DVD and once from iTunes.
Lately, a few studios have been including a portable formatted version of the movie on the dvd, but if it's in .mov format you can't play it on a Zune and if it's in .wmv then you can play it on an iPod. I'm sure Apple and Microsoft strike exclusive deals with the studios to only offer the movie in their format. Let's hear it for consumer choice! - aidave, on 07/31/2008, -1/+4The iPhone wasnt important.
- icndvl, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3Its time for an online protest like no other. This is even more important then the Iphone! At least I think it is...
- enri, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3You have my permission as an American citizen to kick the ***** out of those lobbyists. Just one request, don't send them back here. Maybe they could get 'lost' somewhere in Nunavut or the Northwest Territories.
- doublej42, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3I am a both a Canadian consumer and a Canadian copyright holder. I produce computer software as well as video and audio content. The new bill C-61 would make many of my daily tasks illegal. I use disk copying software to produce masters of my applications for testing. This software would be made illegal because it can be used to copy pirated software. I am mostly concerned about my use as a consumer.
I buy a lot of movies on DVD but the copy protection has rendered by primary DVD player non functional. I need to crack and copy them in order to play them. I also watch them on portable devices but I must crack them to play them on unsupported devices.
I listen to a lot of music and have at last count over 1000 cd's. Some of these are said to have “copy-protection” Because of this I can not rip them to my computer without bypassing this protection. This would be illegal as of bill c-61. I do not own an actual cd player so I have no way to listen to what I buy without breaking the law.
I play computer games. I purchase at least one new game a month. Many of these games have copy protection that is not compatible with my computer. or the software I run. I crack these games so I can play them. I also like to play some on my laptop or on a computer without a cd drive. This is easily done but as of bill C-61 it will not be legally done. - postalblowfish7, on 07/31/2008, -1/+4can we go back to the time when huge corporations and old people didn't understand/use the internet?
- MattH, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3So what happens when a content service shuts down and theres no way to use the service but breaking the digital locks .
Personaly I broke the digital locks on a content service I was using as soon as I heard they where in trouble and the company was sold and the buyers shut the service down as soon as it was sold .Many other uers where left with downloads that no longer worked becuse the DRM servers where shut down . - mikedoth, on 07/31/2008, -0/+3They just take the examples, and go further?
- rascal, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2It's going to be longer than a month for it to go into effect. It has only passed first reading. It will have to go 2nd reading, committee, and 3rd (and final) reading. It's not clear if it will go to committee before or after 2nd reading but that is where stake-holders can give their input. It's not too late to stop this bill.
If you are Canadian and you oppose the bill then you should phone your MP and express your opposition. Try to arrange a meeting if you can. If you are in favour then please keep it to yourself. - conspiracyofone, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Queen's Journal makes Digg frontpage! Next up: Homecoming 2008.
- theonlybradever, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2we only have americans to thank for this piece of legislation.
it's been forced upon us by years of american lobbying organizations.
it's clearly based off of that farce the DMCA which is one of the most ridiculous pieces of legislation EVER.
do some research. the DMCA makes ANYTHING used to circumvent copy-protection illegal. this has hilarious consequences such as making felt-tip pens illegal as they could be used to break the copy-protection on some CDs back around the year 2000.
it's staggering to attempt to understand how these lawmakers could pass such a piece of garbage without understanding how insane it's clauses are. - netneutrality, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2The streaming video doesn't have any DRM whatsoever though. The data is totally unencrypted, delivered in that unprotected way to *MY* browser. And the content producers are presumably trusting my browser to do what their server says, but there's no law that says it has to follow the protocols properly.
- theonlybradever, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2GarciasCheese,
is that why the Buffalo Bills are moving to Toronto? - JoelBakan01, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2That's what I think too. No one will pay any attention to this law. A government that passes such laws that the people won't follow is illegitimate anyway. RIP democracy.
- xister, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Really? You mean the no trespassing sign that actually happened to be on my own property (computer)?
- SilverBlade2k, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Hey, while they are at it, why not make laws that make it illegal to memorize information from textbooks? After all, your brain can be considered a 'device' in which to hold a 'copy' of the information onto.
The way things are going, I bet it'll even be illegal to study for tests and exams in the not too distant future.. - asnider, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2That's the thing that probably pissed me off the most about this whole thing. Isn't that WHY I pay taxes on blank media, so that the recording industry still gets money when I pirate stuff?
This also, means, quite stupidly, that if I torrent an episode of a TV that I missed, instead of recording it on a VCR or PVR, I'm breaking the law. Why? - JnOrris, on 07/31/2008, -0/+2Queen's students should care, if the movie/music studios find out about DC++ on campus we are all probably liable for $100,000+...
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