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- tidu, on 10/11/2007, -4/+36WHAT'S THIS? What's it called? "D...di...diplomacy?"
- turnthepage, on 10/11/2007, -1/+29"its not like North Korea was ever a serious threat"
Heh. Funny. They have the one of the most disciplined and well trained army in the world. Oh, and btw, it's the 4th largest in the world. Let me also take this opportunity to mention that they have the world's 2nd largest special ops force--100,000 strong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_korea#Military - M3RCINIAN, on 10/11/2007, -10/+35I swear to god, the next person who puts "BREAKING" in a story title will, as a dire result, be PUNCHED IN THE FACE.
- Ninjy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14No, it's called giving somebody money to do things. Just think of North Korea as a hooker.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -12/+25Buried for using the word "BREAKING". I don't give a ***** if it happened 10 seconds ago. Post the ***** story and let it ride.
- Jesse, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Threat or not, whatever makes this mad world a little calmer.
- Ajajadude, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9By the time I read this, the article was posted over 27 hours ago.
People REALLY need to stop throwing "BREAKING" into the title. - siszam, on 10/11/2007, -11/+17Why do you people keep rewarding the BREAKING creeps by digging their crap? Ugggg. Buried.
- GawtMilk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5What? They have lots of ammo for their army. Why do you think North Korea is so poor, and why so many people are in the army? Kim Jong Il is spending all of his money on the army.
- smoothmedia, on 10/11/2007, -9/+13Can we please stop including "BREAKING" in digg story titles, until we get the ability to edit them after submission?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You're joking right? You honestly don't see N. Korea as a threat?
Maybe you need someone to explain to you how politics ACTUALLY work. N. Korea doesn't need a whole arsenal of weaponry to get what they want. They need to create both a perceived threat and a real threat. They were working on a nuclear weapon program for a reason. They wanted aid on their terms. They made a missile that could reach Hawaii and the west coast of the U.S.
At some point it was either going to break down to the U.S. giving them aid, as we did, or they were going to have to show their hand by sending a missile to us. I am quite sure they would have done this.
They are still a threat for exactly the reason you say they are not - they have the lowest national growth. They have nuclear weapons and nothing to lose. This isn't a matter of what the people of N. Korea want but rather, what the insane dictator wants. - Fritzel, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You're supposed to be digging / burying the article not the submitter, dugg to counter
- Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3So hookers get compensation for NOT doing things? Hmm...
- Jugalator, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3As long as it makes people think it's "really big news" and digg it, it won't stop. There are both upsides and downsides with social news sites like these. Breaking is the new amazing.
- kmoed, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5What a joke, are you talking about the same army that cant get the peasants in Iraq under control. Pray N Korea never sets it sights on you. Your special ops exist in video games and movies only.
- caution, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3This is the same thing N. Korea did during the Clinton years. Rattle saber. Get favors to say you'll quit.
Countries like the former Iraq, N. Korea and Iran are all the same. I say we call their bluff rather than cave. It's going to be more painful in the long run if we don't. - bocaJWho, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea, AKA - North Korea) launch a missile at Japan. Doesn't even need to have a nuke, just frighten Japan a ton. Japan says "***** article 7 - we want nukes!" (they really aren't that far away from throwing off article 7 anyways, considering their involvement in Iraq and general animosity towards China.) China says "oh no you don't!" While at this point they probably don't attack Japan, they do experience a surge in militarism because they hate Japanese more than Japanese hate them due to atrocities committed during WWII (they RIOTED because of Japanese textbooks that didn't recognize this - what do you think they will do in the face of hugely renewed Japanese militarism?) Likely to appease a desire for action, they go ahead and invade Taiwan. The US is obligated to provide for the defense of Taiwan, so then we are here:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end.php - CanoeBuilder, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Well, which is it? Broken or shutdown?
- ChayD, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Military budget != military might. You could spend trillions of dollars per second on the military, but it's not going to
necessarily make it any better due to the law of diminishing returns. You can only blow the planet up once. - Anubis2051, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2nvm, wrong topic
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Because the military is the only occupation that will consistently provide 3 hots a cot in that country?
- ggtsu, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3As usual, the North Koreans threaten to hold their breath and stomp their feet until they get what they want. As usual, we give it to them. It's extortion, pure and simple. Why we let them keep doing it is beyond me...
- Dested, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"*****, IT CAUGHT FIRE!"
"We'll... Just tell the Americans we disarm, try again next year." - BESTenemy, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Breaking? Did he break something while pissing?
- deiphobus, on 10/11/2007, -3/+4First they invite UN weapons inspectors, then they wanted direct talks with the US military, and now they claim that they have shutdown the Yong-byon nuclear reactor? Oh, they are also getting the Oil reactor?
Seriously, North Korea is up to something, and, in my opinion, that's not a good thing. - Grumps, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I thought we dont negotiate with terrorist? They are blackmailing us. And we're feeding them like dumb ass. When they run out of oil, they just have to restart their reactor. How dumb.
- danakin, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1To be fair, this happened during the Clinton years as well.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Breaking: This was posted yesterday. You just got to the story late.
- dw2005, on 10/11/2007, -6/+7So let me get this straight...
- The US gives North Korea oil and tells them to stop building nukes.
- North Korea takes oil and says they stopped building nukes (in reality haven't actually stopped building nukes)
- Profit!....but for North Korea. - doctechnical, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Not prostitition so much as blackmail. "Give me stuff or I'll build nuclear weapons!"
Next time he wants more stuff he'll kust fire up the ol' reactor again. It's worked before, it'll work again. Next time WE should "shut down" the reactor. - kidvicious1973, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1check out N. Korea's Official website.
http://www.korea-dpr.com/
They need a serious western influence. read the documents of traveling to the DPR Korea. - noamsml, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I hope they also provided corroboration beyond the trustworthiness of their word.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No, it's more like paying off a chick you slept with to not tell your wife. While, you know what you have to do to take care of the problem. You get Tony to whack her...or it...whatever.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Extortion.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1But, thanks to digg, you can read about it again...and again...and again...
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2It's called..B...Br...Bribery
- vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1@"I hope the US and China have the intelligence to realise that they can't externally impose their view of order in Korea any more effectively than they've done in Iraq."
Here's the deal. China keeps North Korea around because its like a having a crazy barking dog that keeps the US on its toes. The US keeps North Korea around to keep an excuse to have a military presence in South Korea and Japan.
And South Korea doesn't want North Korea to collapse because it will cause their economy to collapse with the influx of refugees and then dealing with an integration that will stagnate their economy for 50 years much worse than East Germany ever did to West Germany.
So... No. North Korea will never fall due to external pressure. Doesn't mean that Kim Jong Il might get pushed off a balcony by his generals one night though. - nondescrypt, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well, I don't know about you guys but I'm finally going to be able to get a good night's sleep !
- IphtashuFitz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Actually China would face just as much of a problem if North Korea were to collapse. They already have to deal with a fairly large number of refugees that escape from North Korea because it's a lot easier to sneak into China (mainly crossing a river or mountain range that separates the two countries) than it is to cross the DMZ (armed guards, land mines, electrified fences, etc) into South Korea. Nobody wants the North to collapse simply because nobody knows exactly how to deal with the situation. It'd become the biggest humanitarian disaster in history since everybody there is so thoroughly brainwashed, undernourished, etc.
- sakuraz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1If north korea starts a war, it will immediately create economic standstill in countries surrounding it, namely :
Russia, Japan, South Korea, China
And they're a major chunk of the global market.
Not to mention the casualty it will cause.
South korea is one of the densest place on earth.
Not to mention, Seoul, its capital, one of the densest city in the world, is only tens of kilometres away from North Korea.
It will create massive chaos around the region, and will cost lives.
PS. Kim Jong il is crazy. he doesn't care about his country being obliterated.
If nobody complies, he'll just create as much havoc as he can. - jdepp, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2North Korea is an embarrassment. It's the state equivalent of the crazy guy on the roof-top threatening to jump.
How can any self-respecting country have a policy running a stop-start nuclear power plant and nuclear weapons program in order to barter concessions, oil and food out of the US and the rest of the world? It sounds a tad immature to me, though apparently Kim Jong Il is venerated as a god there.
If you look on the NASA website at the world at night, NK is one of the few land masses that is mostly dark, as in no street lights -- a bit of a primitive place to live. Surely most of the citizens there would be much better off under almost any other form of government, but the arrangement is marginally stable - any one person stepping out of line is dealt with severely.
I hope the US and China have the intelligence to realise that they can't externally impose their view of order in Korea any more effectively than they've done in Iraq. Provided the nuclear ambitions can be bought off and they're not actually mass-producing nerve gas - (as opposed to we'd-like-to-invade-so-let's-make-up-a-pretext-producing) NK should be left well alone to fester until some native North Korean takes the initiative to end the madness and improve things for themselves. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1to the above "***** moron"...you don't have to invade countries to accomplish goals. Did you forget we have an Air Force? Planes drop bombs. Even Clinton, the first black president, used the Air Force in Kosovo. You were probably to busy sucking your mom's teet to protest against that though huh?
- unsolicited, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Is it bribe or ransom?
- sodade, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1***** moron. What would the cost be to invade NK and force them to do what we want? Probably equivalent to an ocean full of oil tankers. "but but it is the point of the thing" Actually, the point is warhawk dick ***** the US in the ass with idiots like you cheering the neocons on.
- jdepp, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1well it's going to be more painful for the citizens of NK certainly,
Eastern Germany managed to re-integrate with West without major bloodshed. Iraq was effectively de-clawed in the 1991 war but they had to look like they might have WMD to maintain credibility. Perhaps the same thing is going on with NK.
Iraq was a comparatively crummy place to live if you were an Iraqi, but for the rest of the world it was a useful enemy to keep the lid on Iran, and provided a buffer between Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia which is why there are those clips of a young Rumsfeld meeting Saddam. The US enforced no-fly zones and had a food for oil program to extract fuel from the country. It's certainly costing far more in terms of money and lives to attempt to police Iraq in person today than it did by policing Saddam in 1997. Most of the world views the US to now be clearly in the wrong over the Iraq war, whereas in the last decade it was less of an issue.
I say we let NK make its posturing, provided it's not actually an imminent threat it's not our problem. - Barbarino, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1It's amazing, the Bash Bush diggers can't give the man credit for anything.. Clinton failed and so far Bush has succeeded with NK.
- vertinox, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Its not like North Korea has tons of chemical weapons and thousands of conventional artillery pointed at Seoul as it is. I'm sure we can drop a few bombs without any repercussions. Oh and its not like China would get openly hostile with American military presence on their borders.
- DeadPanDan, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I bet they do intend to shut it down. They've had years to generate all the fissile material they need.
- MaximusAugustus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0LOLOLOLOL
Keep telling yourself that...... - thefaithful, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0And when all the concessions are made and the eventual 1 million tons of oil are used up, what will North Korea do then?
What keeps them from running the same ploy and getting more free stuff from the world? -
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