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- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -4/+166Every major news outlet is reporting this and submitter links Daily Mail. Deplorable.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -2/+95Why the ***** do you have to post this from the Daily Mail when there are credible sources available?
- swmbuk, on 03/30/2009, -2/+70You could have chose any god damn newspaper or media outlet, and you choose the Dail Mail, talk about sucking Satans *****!
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -3/+48Odds of being on an airline flight which results in at least one fatality/
Odds of being killed on a single airline flight
Top 25 airlines with the best records
1 in 8.47 million/ 1 in 13.57 million
Bottom 25 with the worst records
1 in 830,428/1 in 1.13 million
Your chances of being involved in an aircraft accident are about 1 in 11 million. On the other hand, your chances of being killed in an automobile accident are 1 in 5000. Statistically, you are at far greater risk driving to the airport than getting on an airplane. However, the perception is that you have more control over your fate when you are in your car than as a passenger traveling on an airplane. Experience shows otherwise, considering that over 50,000 people are killed on the highways every year.
An article in Time magazine (12/4/06) reminds us that "more than 500 times as many people die on U.S. roads as in airline accidents." The article "Why We Worry About the Things We Shouldn't" further goes on to give some startling statistics about the kind of accidents that kill Americans. The data is from 2003, the most recent year for which data is available. According to the article, if you're a bike rider, a dog lover, or a bath taker then you're at far greater risk of being killed in an accident than you are from riding in a commercial aircraft. Don't forget the other kinds of accidents that killed more people than aircraft crashes--stinging from bees/wasps, slipping on ice or snow, choking on food, or falling down stairs or off ladders. It's a dangerous world we live in! And please don't forget the 600 Americans who are killed every year from falling out of bed.
Some Airlines with no Passenger Fatalities*
Aerorepublica Colombia (1992)
Air Anatolia (1996)
Air Austral (1990)
Air Baltic (1995)
Air Berlin (1991)
Air Comet (2006)
Air Do (1997)
Air Express Tanzania (2006)
Air Europa (1984)
Air Transport Europe (1991)
Air Jamaica (1966)
Air Macau (1994)
Air Malta (1973)
Air Mauritius (1967)
Air Namibia (1991)
Air Niugini (1973)
Air One (1995)
Air Seychelles (1985)
Air Transat (1986)
Airlink - Australia (1994)
Allegiant Air (1998)
AMC Airlines (1994)
America Trans Air (2005)
Arkia Israeli Airlines (1980)
ASCERA (1990)
Atlantic Airways (1987)
Aurigny Air Services (1968)
Austrian Airlines (1957)
Awair International (2005)
Bahamasair (1973)
Blue Panorama (1998)
Britannia (1961)
Canadian North (1990)
Cayman Airways (1968)
Corsair Int. (1991)
Croatia Airlines (1990)
Dragonair (1985)
EasyJet (1995)
Edelweiss Air (1995)
Emirates Airlines (1985)
Estonian Air (1991)
Eurocypria Airlines (1990)
Eurofly (1989)
Eurowings (1993)
EVA Air (1990)
Falcon Air Express (1995)
Frontier (1994)
Hainan Airlines (1989)
Hawaiian Airlines (1941)
Inter Air Airlines (1979)
Islandsflug (1991)
Japan TransOcean Air (1993)
Jet Airways (1992)
Jet Blue Airways (1999)
LTU International Airways (1955)
Macedonian - Greece (1992)
Macedonian - Macedonia (1994)
Maersk Air (1969)
Mahan Air (1991)
Malmo Aviation (2000)
Meridiana (1991)
Mesa Airlines (1980)
Monarch Airlines (1967)
Myanmar Airways Intl. (1993)
National Airlines (2008)
Nature Air (1991)
North American Airlines (1989)
Nouvelair Tunisie (1996)
Novair (1997)
Oman Air (1993)
Omni Air International (1997)
Onur Air (1992)
Pace Airlines (1995)
Pegasus Airlines (1990)
PLUNA (1936)
Portugalia Airlines (1997)
Qatar Airways (1993)
Royal Brunei Airlines (1974)
Ryanair (1985)
SATA International (1998)
Shaheen Air Int. (1993)
Shanghai Airlines (1985)
Sichuan Airlines (1990)
Skymark Airlines (1996)
Skyservice Airlines (1994)
Skyways Express (2000)
Southwest Airlines (1971)(z)
Spirit Airlines (1992)
Sun Country Airlines (1982)
Swiss International Air Lines (2002)
Syrianair (1977)
Titan Airways (1988)
Trans States Airlines (1989)
Transaero (1990)
TransAsia Airways(1992)
Transavia Airlines (1986)
Travel Service Airlines (1997)
Tunisair (1990)
Ukraine International (1992)
UNI Airways (1996)
Virgin Atlantic (1984)
WestJet Airlines (2002)
* Includes no fatalities with a subsidiary or parent airline.
(z) A Southwest Airlines accident caused one fatality on the ground. - whytey, on 02/25/2009, -4/+45Dailyfail
- hypografik, on 02/25/2009, -0/+30Lame joke. Try harder.
- insanebrain, on 02/25/2009, -0/+29>BREAKING :
true. . the plane broke in 3 parts. - KilGil27, on 02/25/2009, -3/+31all these plane crash stories recently aren't making my first flight ever on friday look any more enjoyable...
- MuRf07, on 02/25/2009, -3/+259 dead! no joke!
- ssttuu, on 02/25/2009, -0/+19BBC News reports 9 killed and 50 injured
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7909683.st ... - Chirp08, on 02/25/2009, -0/+19And if your car gets hit by a plane, well, you clearly have the worst luck ever.
- Hoogs, on 02/25/2009, -0/+18Make sure you bring a pregnant chick, a dead guy, and a guitar.
- 029JO, on 02/25/2009, -2/+18Does it have to be daily mail?? Really digg?
- whytey, on 02/25/2009, -0/+16I am doing my driving lessons atm thanks..
- scarwars, on 02/25/2009, -0/+14Congratulations. That's the most stupid thing I've heard all day
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -2/+16Tough? The Turkish Airlines Flight 737 broke into three pieces as it hit the ground next to the runway.
- Frostek, on 02/25/2009, -1/+14Yes, a plane landing on a car suffers far less damage than a car driving into a plane.
- ssttuu, on 02/25/2009, -0/+13Unfortunately Nine died, but no fires and considering the impact and speed, tough still seems accurate.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+11It's the safest form of transport. You're more likely to die in your car.
- burkay, on 02/25/2009, -1/+12and actually those sources were already submitted.
http://digg.com/world_news/Turkish_plane_crashes_a ... - buzzed1234, on 02/25/2009, -3/+14Planes are tough nowadays and AMS has many runways so no real problem. Hope everyone is OK.
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -0/+11Gravity!
- whytey, on 02/25/2009, -2/+12Video from the BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7909683.stm
no fails please - burkay, on 02/25/2009, -2/+129 dead, 50 injured. the reason seems to be that the plane was out of fuel. but that is not official.
- whytey, on 02/25/2009, -0/+10Maybe you will end up on the island if you recreate it
- Lasereth, on 02/25/2009, -1/+10We know the chances are low of being in an aircraft crash. The problem is, most people have multiple car crashes per lifetime and live through them. How many people live through airplane crashes? The chances of living through a mild to serious car crash is still very, very high. The chances of living through a plane falling out of the sky is very bad.
- shadowblade989, on 02/25/2009, -0/+9Especially when going overseas.
- whytey, on 02/25/2009, -0/+9Its probably to do with that magnetic field
- draxenato, on 02/25/2009, -1/+10Though if your car crashes you're more likely to survive, if your plane crashes, well good luck with that
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -3/+11Gravity is only a theory, moron.
- Premier, on 02/25/2009, -4/+12What's going on with all these recent plane crashes?
- treedude, on 02/25/2009, -0/+8FTA: "Huseyin Sumer told CNN: 'We are calling people to say the situation is not very serious but there might be casualties on the front side of the pane.'"
Not very serious?! Even if everyone got off without a scratch, a plane crash is still very serious matter. - Qbryzan, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7Sure, but by that logic you should bring a bomb with you - I mean, what are the chances a plane would have 2 bombs on it?
- mrhahn, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7Planes are required to carry enough fuel to hold for 45 minutes and then divert to (and land at) another airport. Certain low-cost airlines, such as Ryanair, were reported to have been pressuring their captains over the amount of additional fuel (on top of this minimum amount) which could be added for operational reasons (for example, if there was potential for them to encounter a headwind).
I very much doubt this crash has anything to do with that. - Chirp08, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7They said the fuel wasn't the issue, it was just going too slow, hence the sudden drop (not enough lift at such a low speed to stay in the air). Pilot error.
- Jeffler, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7Because somewhere along the line some genius started submitting daily fail and ist sadly the #7 most used source for FP articles.
http://di66.net/top-sites-365d-by-posts.html - inactive, on 02/25/2009, -5/+12Another crash?! Hopefully they are all OK..so far only 1 died..hopefully no more fatalities recorded..it is crash landing..
- flashingcurser, on 02/25/2009, -0/+7Does "BREAKING NEWS" seem oddly inappropriate for a plane crash to anyone else?
- inactive, on 02/25/2009, -1/+7*Waits for explanation from diggforworld*
- specialK16, on 02/25/2009, -1/+7BOOM!
- subscriber, on 02/25/2009, -0/+6If a pilot is running low on fuel, he should first declare "minimum fuel" to alert ATC of his situation. If it becomes clear he will land with less than enough fuel for a go-around followed by another approach at the field, (in other words, if he is in a situation where he has only one shot at a landing) then he will declare "emergency fuel." At that point he will get priority handling from ATC -- other aircraft will be vectored out of his way etc ....
The more likely scenario, though, when a pilot realizes he will be low on fuel, is a divert. In other words, stop for gas if you need to. So when airlines start loading less fuel across the board, they'll start seeing more diverts. The cost of diverts is higher than the savings from carrying less fuel, so in general, airlines always put on enough gas.
A pilot should never run out of gas. Never. - Foamator, on 02/25/2009, -1/+7Was it an Ajira Airways flight?
- colinnwn, on 02/25/2009, -0/+6Yes they do. 99.995% of people take a lifetime of irregular airplane trips and don't experience getting killed either.
Statistics are based on miles travelled, or trips taken, or lifetime odds. Statistically they are using the average number of trips taken to figure out lifetime odds, most people take lots of car trips and few airplane trips. All ways of calculating take your concern into account. Frankly if statisticians couldn't normalize that, the field would be incompetent and worthless. People harp on statistics, but rigorously calculated statistics don't lie. Journalists just misquote them, or people don't understand what they really mean. - Daz_Genetic, on 02/25/2009, -1/+7Don't skew the math with your human emotions. We are just a bunch of statistics. In fact I just drive along with my eyes closed and let the math take care of me while I drive. 1:5,000 chance of death is pretty damn good odds for someone not even looking at the road.
- Stuntz, on 02/25/2009, -1/+7doesnt anyone else find it so weird that over the past few months, planes have just been dropping out of the sky?? Is the movie The Core becoming a reality or something??
- Vesuvias, on 02/25/2009, -0/+5I for one see that it just happened to be a herd of unicorns that decided to float out of the sky and land on the top of the plane, forcing it to the ground....
This IS Amsterdam after all.... - insanebrain, on 02/25/2009, -0/+59 people died. . 6 passengers and 3 crew members .. 50 people injured. . 25 of them seriously.
- colinnwn, on 02/25/2009, -1/+6Your chances of surviving an airplane crash with at least 1 fatality is 24%. But not all airplane crashes cause fatalities either, though it is higher than cars. But these statistics are irrelevant unless you compare the exact same types of statistics (fatal crash rates or lifetime fatality risk) between transport types. Humans are horrible risk analyzers.
In 1999 the National Safety Council calculated your lifetime risk of dying in a car accident was 1 in 244. The lifetime risk of dying in an air or space transport accident was 1 in 4,975. There's no way to rationalize it out. Driving is the most insanely dangerous thing humans do every day. Flying in a large commercial plane is the one of the most insanely safe thing humans do regularly. - ssttuu, on 02/25/2009, -2/+7- Years of chronic cost cutting and under investment in good Pilots.
- Airlines who still believe that current auto pilots are infallible.
- As much as 40% pay cut for new Pilots, instead these clever people worked at Lehman Brothers on new financial instruments, otherwise known as Collateralized debt obligations. - WutDaHeckMan, on 02/25/2009, -1/+6 now is when we as diggers have a duty to uphold.
...and that is we are supposed to create conspiracies about the abundance of recent planes crashes. -
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