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- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -41/+227You've got to be kidding me. They have military grade "grad" rockets ? But I was told the poor palestinians fight with sticks and stones. Well, I'm sure no Isralis were injured, being that the entire Israeli population sit inside armored tanks.
It's true. I read it on digg. - Erythroxylum, on 05/15/2008, -17/+119They get more aid per capita than anyone anywhere in the world. It makes sense that they'd be able to afford sophisticated military equipment. In fact doing so serves two purposes: they have plenty of guns and explosives to kill Jews (their only goal in life), and by spending all of the billions of dollars in aid we [the Western world] dole out on them on arms, the non-active-terrorist section of the population suffers from a lack of schools, hospitals and infrastructure, and so we - the naive ones of us at least, which seems to include most of the government - say, 'Oh, how sad - let's give them some more money.'
- flashingcurser, on 05/15/2008, -19/+92I hope that there aren't many serious injuries.
- wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -21/+92According to some diggers it would be a crime for Israel to retaliate... Apparently the current Israeli government agrees...
- israeligirl, on 05/15/2008, -22/+91Statement of Senator Barack Obama on today's rocket attacks on Ashkelon :
"As the United States joins Israel in celebrating its 60th anniversary, today's cowardly rocket attack and tragic injuries remind us of the ongoing threats that Israelis face with courage and resolve. In the days and years to come, the United States must maintain its unshakable commitment to supporting Israel’s right and capability to defend itself against these outrageous terrorist attacks, so that the Israeli people can live in peace and security." - inactive, on 05/15/2008, -37/+87Ooh, this must be blowback against those women and children that purposely target palestinian civilians. At least, that's what I was told on digg. A rocket? This must be some zionist-controlled-MSM-disinformation, because palestinian terrorists are all innocent throwing nothing but stones, right? At least, that's what I was told on digg. Collateral damage doesn't exist, and it's not like that some palestinian terrorists purposely hide in civilian areas and use them as shields, right? At least, that's what I was told on digg...
- kukuya, on 05/15/2008, -10/+56There are many injuries, actually... check this out:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3543378, ... - Qong, on 05/15/2008, -7/+49I'm not a Zionist or any such thing: All it takes are basic morals and principals, things that all good human beings should have, to realize that this is wrong on the part of Hamas. Anyone that disagrees is not a good person. How can anyone possibly think that innocent people deserve to be killed, or any reason?
This is a terrible thing and it's completely understandable for Israel to retaliate. Hopefully something solid can be worked out in the very near future between Israel and the Palestinian people so innocent people can stop being hurt on both sides. - dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -13/+53Israel is long beyond retaliation. Being that Palestinain terrorists are all set on destroying Israel and killing innocent civilians, arresting / executing hamas/fatah terrorists is an act of prevention, not retaliation.
- yonoz, on 05/15/2008, -6/+47The rocket hit a local medical clinic. These rockets spread thousands of pellets when they explode.
4 serious injuries, including a 24y/o mother and her 2-y/o daughter, which still has one piece of shrapnel in her head. - inactive, on 05/15/2008, -9/+42Actually, it appears that Israel is going to be sending troops back in to the Gaza Strip. No doubt the scum in Hamas and their supporters will milk this for all of the propaganda value that they can.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -5/+36Being that every day these rockets are fired on Israeli cities, I find it hardly a coincidince.
It has become so absurd, that the Israeli newspapers report of a "calm in palestinian rocket firing" when there are less than 5 rockets a day.
I wonder what your response would be to your neighbors constantly firing rockets on your town, killing the women and children of your family and friends. - sungoddess808, on 05/15/2008, -16/+51If this happened to a mall in the U.S., any President, whether past or present would not put up with the b.s. They would retaliate! Olmert needs to do the same!!
- wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -7/+36There must me an awful lot of Mossad False Flag Ops, because rockets are falling on Israeli towns almost every day. Very convenient indeed (rolls eyes).
- monsieurginger, on 05/15/2008, -12/+41I was in that mall 2 winters ago.
- wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -11/+43The US entire federal budget is over 3 trillion. I. e. the US aid to Israel is less than 0.1% of its budget. Besides, where does it say that a country can't help its ally?
- wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -6/+32Targeting armed militants, which is Israel usual response to terror attacks is hardly indiscriminate. And unless you happen to have the USS Enterprise in orbit, complete with phasers and a terrorist-life-signs scanner, I fail to see how one can attack terrorists while guaranteeing the safety of civilians. Unless, of course, members of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, etc. would be nice enough to gather on an empty field far away from any civilians. Do you think that can be arranged?
- yonoz, on 05/15/2008, -15/+38There's a sucker born every minute.
- wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -3/+22First of all, Palestinian terrorists find it perfectly acceptable to attack children even if there are no IDF soldiers present.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'alot_massacre
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/961767.html
Second, by my logic nobody has to die. All Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, etc. have to do is stop their attacks, and started building a life for their people. It is up to them. Since they do not appear to be willing to do that, something has to be done. Got any ideas? Otherwise, it seems that by _your_ logic, Israel should just sit back and do nothing, while its citizens are being murdered. - wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -2/+23The Palestinians are the only ones at this point who can solve the problem. All they have to do is stop the violence, genuinely agree to coexistence with Israel, and start negotiating the specifics. Yes, I know this is a pipe-dream, but any other solution will get a lot of people killed.
- synthpop, on 05/15/2008, -8/+27this is what Israel got in return for pulling out of the Gaza strip.
I wonder what they'll get if they pull out of the West Bank.. - hmemcpy, on 05/15/2008, -8/+27Ahmadinejad, is that you?
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -7/+25But it's not a crime for Palestinian terrorists to randomly kill Israeli citizens simply because they're Israelis?
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -8/+27Oh right, I forgot purposely targeting innocent woman and children with rockets was the same as collateral damage resulting from palestinian terrorists purposely hiding in civilian heavy areas, and using innocents as shields. Thanks for giving me a completely objective analysis.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -7/+24If the palestinians wouldn't use their own people as human sheilds to protect terrorists, sometimes held inside terrorists lairs at gunpoint(all to present more bodies on TV), there would be very few palestinian collateral damage. This of course as opposed to Hamas, the elected Palestinian government, which has a stated mission of sending 15 year olds to blow themselves up in Israeli malls, buses, coffee shops and discotechques.
- AsianChopsticks, on 05/15/2008, -25/+48You know, if that little piece of land weren't so religiously important, none of this would be happening right now.
- drz130, on 05/15/2008, -4/+24You're right about something, it's the Israeli leadership that is the problem. Neither the US nor any other self respecting country would allow it's citizens to be victims of a constant daily barrage of missiles and rockets, while the leaders stood by impotently. A true leader would give the IDF the green light and say "fix this problem by whatever means necessary." In short order the problem would be fixed.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -4/+22Although many disagree with the current Israeli leadership, It is infact one of most restrained governments Israel has ever had. From the left or from the right. Most of the uprage against the current Prime Minister is because of the 2006 Lebanon war. This was a war forced upon Israel, without any provocations from the Israeli side. Israel had withdrewn from Lebanon 5 years earlier, and still Iran-backed Hezbollah decided to attack an Israeli patrol, killing and kidnapping Israeli reservists, inside Israeli soil. There was never a war Israel participated in that it was so just as this war. Nevertheless, the Israeli government's inexperience in Military tactics caused Israel to achieve less than Ideal results. Many believed the goals of the war were not acheived, and that the situation in which lebanon was left will only allow Hezbollah to regroup and regain strength. The recent news out of lebanon shows exactly this. Hezbollah has not only rearmed, they have shown the world the price of ignoring Hezbollah's terrorist ways - they are trying to take over Beirut. Many Israelis are now terrified. If it wasn't enough that these murderers were targeting their women and children, now they are about to take over a countery. A military branch of the Iraning government, right on the northern border of Israel. Iran's aspiration for nuclear weapons are even more terrifying. What Israelis want and long for, is a strong government, with a leader knows what to do to protect Israel from these deadly threats. It might mean military action, it might mean dimplomacy. It will probably be a combination of both. But one thing's for sure - Israelis have strong human instincts, and these instincts tell them only one thing - Protect your women and children from murderous terrorist animals.
- elamr, on 05/15/2008, -4/+21Isrealigirl, I love Jews. Jesus, Einstein, Adam Sandler are my all time heros (all Jews). I don't believe these terrorist acts should go unchecked and Isreal has EVERY right to defend herself, however sometimes the way that the Isreali government/military responds seems... ***** retarded at times. As a result, many people around the world are very suspicious of the Isreali government (similar to the US-Iraqi disaster). As an American, I find it highly frustrating that our government has such a pre-occupation with Isreal and Palestine. I'm not saying we should do nothing, but it seems like if we really wanted to be objective about the peace process our views wouldn't be so one sided. I'm not going to pretend to have the answers to a region that has been steeped in such religious/ethnic/racial hatred for hundreds of years, but I don't think our govt should get involved unilateraly. I wish the UN had relevance, this seems like something they might be in better position to handle.
- bjs3171, on 05/15/2008, -4/+20they actually do throw stones. about the size of your head. off bridges, onto civilians. charming, isn't it?
- yonoz, on 05/15/2008, -12/+28Human filth.
There's a 24-y/o mother and her 2-y/o baby in a serious condition with multiple shrapnel wounds, in the Shiba hospital right now. - wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -1/+16Point taken. I apologize for putting more emphasis on "It is a crime to retaliate indiscriminately", which I took to be an implied accusation, than on "It's not a crime to retaliate." After hearing the cry "genocide" every time a civilian is killed in an Israeli attack from the same people who call Hamas attacks "legitimate resistance" one's level of tolerance becomes affected.
And your qualifying "it is not a crime to retaliate" with a rather vague "as long as retaliation is not indiscriminate" is not a great tactic either. What number of civilian casualties is acceptable, when targeting an enemy? I think we can all agree that firing unguided rockets into civilian population centers is a crime. So is blowing up a bus full of children in order to kill a single soldier. How about if a Hamas leader, who has the blood of hundreds of people on his hands, and who would kill hundreds more, is killed along with an innocent bystander? Is that indiscriminate? What if 2 bystanders get killed? What if 10? These are judgment calls that military officers have to make every day, and live with the consequences. Where do you draw the line? IMHO, Israeli retaliations so far have been incredibly restrained, and not at all indiscriminate.
The point is that for Hamas, these are not difficult choices. In fact, they are not choices at all. - inactive, on 05/15/2008, -5/+20It makes me think you're an idiot for jumping to conclusions that are supported by zero evidence just because of your own personal views of israel.
- hadees, on 05/15/2008, -9/+27And the majority of that aid has to be spent in the United States thus employing a lot of Americans.
- xodex, on 05/15/2008, -7/+22Sucks how Asianchopsicks is telling the truth. Religion sucks.
- DreadPirate, on 05/15/2008, -2/+16Alix7 - would be rather difficult for Israel to reach those kind of numbers, considering the total population of Palestine is 3.7 million and *increasing* every year.
- wpi97, on 05/15/2008, -8/+22Correction: the budget is $2.9 trillion for 2008.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2008/summar ... - goforbroke, on 05/15/2008, -8/+23Now that will get him elected! /sarc
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -8/+24Israelis want Palestinians to stop being terrorists.
Palestinians want Israelis to stop being. - seks03, on 05/15/2008, -15/+32why are we worrying about this? don't we have our own problems?.... Iraq, economy, etc...
- flashingcurser, on 05/15/2008, -3/+16I'm truly sorry to hear that.
- cheesejaguar, on 05/15/2008, -6/+19"The rocket crashed into a women's health clinic"
Makes me wonder why so many are quick to defend these types of actions. - JohnReb, on 05/15/2008, -2/+14I guess deciding a fictional book is a good source for your world view is better than selecting a fictional movie, but it's not better by much.
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -7/+19http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080514/ap_on_re_mi_ea ...
- AtomicTheory, on 05/15/2008, -5/+17If I see this digg story next week, is it still "BREAKING NEWS" ? Well the title still says so.
buried for "BREAKING NEWS" - xceptionaly, on 05/15/2008, -0/+11I doubt that very much. The UN is basically responsible for this whole ***** mess anyway.
- hurt911gen, on 05/15/2008, -1/+12Digg is not only viewed by American residents :]
- milesdavis22, on 05/15/2008, -0/+11Not only that, but when the aid is diverted from the impoverished masses for destructive military purposes, the leaders of the population become VERY wealthy. Did you know that Yassir Arafat was a BILLIONAIRE while his people languished in poverty?
- markgl, on 05/15/2008, -4/+16last time i remember the jewish people have been in those lands since forever.
- dkapuchino, on 05/15/2008, -6/+16Victory for Hezbollah = Defeat for humanity.
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