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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+38According to timezoneconverter.com:
21:54:10 Tuesday September 11, 2001 in Europe/London converts to
16:54:10 Tuesday September 11, 2001 in US/Eastern
Daylight Saving Time is in effect on this date/time in Europe/London
Daylight Saving Time is in effect on this date/time in US/Eastern
dave11980 and anastrophe forgot that Daylight Saving Time (or British Summer Time, BST) was also in effect in the UK. So the conversion is a straight -5 hours.
And aside from the time stamp, I think the big point here is that the building reported to have collapsed IS STILL standing behind the reporter. - lasenorita, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26Please review the original article found @ http://digg.com/politics/BBC_Reported_Building_7_Had_Collapsed_20_Minutes_Before_It_Fell
7 WTC (referred to as the Salomon Brothers Building) can clearly be seen behind the news commentator. The building is intact and still standing even as she and the news anchor discuss it's apparent collapse due to "weakening". - americajones, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25World Trade Center Building 7 housed the paper archives for the Securities and Exchange Commission, including documents relating to ongoing investigations into such corporate fraud cases as the Enron collapse. Motive?
- strictly, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21This is getting huge. Everyone is interested now if they weren't before.
The subject has gotten massive attention on Democratic Underground. The threads on this subject have gotten more than 15,000 hits in the last 48 hours, despite being relegated to the 9/11 "dungeon" where they are kept off the "Greatest Page" by disallowing them any votes. The prejudice against the truthers runs deep. It is amazing, considering the intense efforts made to mock us, that our ranks continue to grow.
On the other hand, the truth is catching up with the BONKERS DEBUNKERS contingent now. They can run...they can scramble for cover, but they can't keep coming up with sufficient answers to keep the masses from joining us in our quest for truth.
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The denial is pure bunkum. You have GOT to be kidding me with this response!
"We're not part of a conspiracy."
Why in the world would you say something as stupid as this to start off? Who accused you of being part of a conspiracy? Independent investigators are sticking to the facts, and we requested some kind clarification. This blanket denial of involvement in 9/11 is just lame.
This is like a parent asking, "Johnny, do you know why the house is flooded?" and the little kid saying, "I don't know anything about the broken faucet in the kitchen! I didn't leave the hammer under the sink!". Jeeze, I don't think the Beeb was "in on it", but could you guys possibly issue a denial that makes you seem more guilty? Ugh!
What ARE you hiding? It is totally irresponsible for the head of BBC World to misrepresent independent investigators' claims. He should be sacked. We will continue to focus on the evidence. They can keep issuing denials if they feel it is appropriate.
Next.
"We didn't get told in advance that buildings were going to fall down. We didn't receive press releases or scripts in advance of events happening."
OMG! What a complete gem!! WTF??! We KNOW that they were told in advance that WTC 7 was going to fall down. So was CNN. To deny this is just plain ridiculous. If, say, the fire department thought that WTC 7 was going to collapse, or that the ceiling was going to fall, then they might very well release a public statement. Some of them may have talked to reporters and that information got back to the BBC.
The point is WE KNOW THAT THEY WERE TOLD IN ADVANCE. But the BBC doesn't make that claim. They claim that they have lost all their 9/11 tapes and that they never received word that WTC 7 was going to collapse ahead of time. Then how did they know to make the announcement over and over again that it had collapsed? Clearly it had not. Are they trying to get us to believe that the two reporters in the video just magically came up with this information on their own? WHAT??!
You lost the original tapes??! Ya rite, pal!!
What a load of dreck.
Lastly, their final defense to all of this is to quote "some guy on Youtube"???!!! Some anonymous poster on Youtube is their go-to guy for a defense regarding evidence of an insider conspiracy on 9/11? Who are these people and why do they think we will let them get away with this nonsense? - AlphaBronco, on 01/25/2009, -3/+19This is true, to the best of my knowledge the SEC refuses to release the list of the companies that were under active investigation
when their case files were conveniently destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7.
Furthermore, I find that almost everyone I talk to is completely unaware of the fact that Rumsfield reported 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS WERE "MISSING" on the day before 9-11. Crazy *****. Watch the CBS video of his announcement at http://whereisthemoney.org/
There is more talk of refusal to release an audited statement of the gold stored beneath the WTC complex before and after the collapse, but I don't have the details handy. - worldinmyeyes, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Anastrophe, you are missing the point that if people knew that WTC 7 was coming down before it did (which the official story denies), then there was foreknowledge, and controlled demolition. The demoltion and bombs in that building have been reported by numerous witnesses that were on-site. Yet they are ignored to this day by the mainstream media.
There has never been a good explanation for why 7 came down - and this muddies the water further. There is plenty of proof that some people knew something was happening in advance: shorting of AA and UAL stocks, government officials warned not to fly, other warnings from intelligence services.
Why would the BBC pull their archives and claim they've lost their 9-11 footage? Who looks like they're hiding something here? You don't think governments like the USA are capable of planning or allowing this to happen to justify a useless war? I used to be naive, but no more. Please don't be naive. - GoodSirJava, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18How much more obvious can it get? She says that WTC7 HAS COLLAPSED, and then the camera zooms in on WTC7, which is still standing, and remains standing for 25 minutes. And then ANOTHER tape comes out from the BBC confirming it. Records attesting to the fact that the BBC reported WTC7's collapse over 20 minutes early are pullulating like insect eggs and verifying each other beyond all contestation. What could be clearer than this?
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17So Digg's (Kevin's) "policy" is to let a small number of bury's overrule an overwhelming majority? Thumbs down to Digg and its owner(s). Must be either govt. controlled or looking to sell your site to someone so that it can be govt. controlled. Play your cards right and you could have millions of dollars. When those dollars become worthless in short order (because enough people didn't wake up in time to stop it), you will wonder how it all went wrong.
- worldinmyeyes, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the CIA’s Highest Ranks
http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html
This was written by Michael Ruppert, ex-LAPD Narcotics Officer - who exposed the CIA for its drug-running practices. These claims are not to be taken lightly, and just because you don't see them on CNN, Fox, The New York Times, and Dateline do not mean they're not valid. - clark22, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Well Alex can post all the stories he wants on DIGG, however; they will never get put in the front pages. When the BBC WT7 story first broke we had enough DIGGS to be on page 2. Instead, DIGG refused to put the story where it was voted and buried it. F*CK YOU DIGG!
- robertlweiland, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17How can dave11980 and anastrophe deny the video of the building standing as they report that it already fell?The actual time is completely irrelevant,at least in the 1st BBC video.
Wake up!
Be brave enough to take the red pill and do the research yourself!
The fate of our country is at stake!
Freedom!!!!!!!!!!! - davan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13No matter which time the report actually came from - if 17:54 pr 16:54 - is totally regardless - the fact - that the BUILDING is STANDING in the back off the shot - is all what is needed to make it to show this weird report - and no - the reporter is not in front of a blue/green screen - you can clearly see the camera zoom - when she slightly moves and the daylight sun in her face.
- gooddaysunshine, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The correspondents Name is Jane Standley, working for BBC-NYC
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anyone feel like making a couple of calls today? - AbuseOfPower, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13OK google video killed my version i made even though youtube didnt but i just made a new version that definitely qualifies as fair use and it also has a bit about the attempted coverup of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eUD93vVcQk
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v272123Jh7S3zXT
http://www.jumpcut.com/view?id=7A28C26AC70411DB872F000423CEF5F6
http://www.vmix.com/view.php?id=2196064¤t_resourceid=2196064&type=video
http://blip.tv/file/158469/
http://www.streamdump.com/videos/display.php?h=37f00f
I think its safe to say at least one of those should be up for a bit
http://abuse-of-power.org - strictly, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12The BBC has offered nothing even close to reasonable as an excuse for this mistake. The least the Beeb could have done was to throw the government apologists a bone to cling on to. Nope. Nothing. Nothing even remotely reasonable.
The government apologists are left scrambling and clutching at straws and thread to invent lame excuses out of whole cloth. Oh, and they are getting really creative, too. Because they have no choice.
I like these active imaginations. We need people to think WAY outside the box like this so that we can consider ALL possibilities...like the blue/green screen theory, the GMT EST ESD IST MET time theory, or the theory that it happened after the fact before it really happened. What other theories are they supporting? The "it was bound to fall sooner or later due to the severe fires on the south side" theory and the BBC had to get the scoop from CNN theory and the "how could anyone be expected to report anything accurately when eight hours before the towers had fallen" theory.
Nope, nothing remotely reasonable yet...still waiting. - groundhog777, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12sept 10 2001 the day before 911 two trillion missing from the pentagon lots, of money for payoff to keep quiet..
- gerthymcgee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11and they gave the official reason for the collapse which wouldnt be determined for 5 years.
all you people jumped on EST arguments and then once proven wrong, you just continued deny the obvious
i wear a tinfoil hat???? well at least my heads not up my a$# - strictly, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Buried. We need the truth! Then we can form a real movement based on a firm foundation.
- insidejob, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11WAKE UP 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Shouts and props to all patriotic, truthseeker humans including everyone on DIGG and the Jersey Girls.
Without the Jersey Girls/Widows asking questions and demanding answers from the start, we may not have such an amazing truth movement filled with such wonderful people. Keep up all the questioning and patriotism. We will take our country back and save the world.
Mindy Kleinberg - Thank you!
Kristin Breitweiser - Thank you!
Lorie Van Auken - Thank you!
Patty Casazza - Thank you!
Monica Gabrielle - Thank you!
...and to think that the Bush cabinet stonewalled and avoided the investigation for more than a year, refused to go under oath, refused to testify alone, invited Henry Kissinger to lead the commission, hired cronies and conflicts of interest like Phillip Zelikow (co-authored a book with Condi and lead the Bush/Cheney transition team), and MANY more....
http://www.Truth911.net
http://www.UniversalSeed.org
http://www.TruthSeeker.us
WATCH AS MANY DOCUMENTARIES ASAP! DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT'S COVER, JUST KEEP RESEARCHING!
PEACE! - strictly, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11THREE CHEERS FOR THE BONKERS DEBUNKERS CROWD!
HIP HOP HOORAY!
HIP HOP HOORAY!
HIP HOP HOORAY!
Keep sticking fingers in those dykes, fellas. Because your ridiculous efforts to stop this tidal wave are really going to matter when the flood waters wash you to the side. NOT! - 12212012, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10keep denying, go back to sleep. it was an inside job, no matter how much you refute the truth.
- vigilant53, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9All those involved in the cover up need to be punished to the full extent of the law.
- thinkfree2020, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8"Take your meds"
Please wake up, sheep. - HippyInASuit, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10We're trying to get people informed and working together! You're a fool if you can't see that. This is Digg, a social networking Internet site. Yes, this information is scary, but it is the truth. You really should donate your brain to science if you're not going to use it yourself.
- joenaab, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'm new to Digg, but I'm wondering, if so many "buries" are required to knock this story (as well as others from Prisonplanet) so far from where they should naturally appear, why don't these guys post comments? How can 99% of comments be supportive of the article when hundreds or thousands of buries are required to kill the article, and none of them explain why?
I'm just using a little good sense here. I think that either Digg is killing these articles deliberately, or there is some way someone from the outside is doing the equivalent somehow. NeoCon lovers don't come out in the numbers needed to do this. - robertlweiland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Hey checkmate0!
I just checked the 1st article from yesterday(BBC reported building 7 had collapsed 20 minutes before it fell)and it's up to 1682 diggs.You can look at this at infowars.com.If you look at the top 10 articles on Digg it should be there at #4 or so,but it's not.The # 10 in all topics only has 832 Diggs.What's up with that?Alex Jones reported on his show today that Digg was labeling all the prisonplanet stuff as spam.
Censorship?Hmmm....
The N.W.O. Globalist criminals screwed this one up bad.There is no way they can keep this one down.
People are waking up left and right and they are pissed!
I admire your commitment to the truth."Know the Truth and the Truth shall set you free!" - philipwarner200, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9It is completely ludicrous to say that reporting that WTC Building 7 fell before it actually fell was only a "mistake." The odds of picking the right building that is going to completely collapse a short time afterward is, I'm sure, high. If they had reported that other buildings had collapsed that hadn't near towers one and two, then maybe, the argument that it was an error in reporting would be stronger. However, a "respected" news agency is reporting on exactly the right building that is going to collapse: WTC 7.
This kind of mistake is just not possible. You can guess about how many dead there were, but you can't guess about the collapse of building before it happens without foreknowledge.
If you can't see this then simply accept that your brain doesn't work. - zerotensor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I notice that the debunker crowd is conspicuously absent here, in stark contrast to the previous stories on this topic posted on digg. Now why is that? Perhaps because they realize that they were WRONG!
- philipwarner200, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I was in Germany on 9/11/01 and we were six hours ahead of EST. We are one hour ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (London), therefore, five hours ahead of EST is exactly correct. Get your facts straight before you post a comment.
- 3n7r0py, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Fact is stranger (and often more horrible) than fiction. Yes, the American government has continually lied to the American people, most notably since 1913... Yes, our government was behind 9/11 and the fabrication of the Iraq war as well as the financiers of Al-Qaeda, Mohammad Atta and Osama Bin-Laden. Our country has been hijacked by the tyrannical banking cartel that owns and controls the Federal Reserve - also owning our government as well. Next up, the Fed will create another Great Depression and then we'll get our handy National ID cards (REAL ID Act) - yes, the similarities between Nazi Germany and present-day America are perfectly analagous. It's time for a Revolution. Any Patriots out there?
- AlphaBronco, on 01/25/2009, -5/+9Don't mind if I do
- TruthBooth, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Interesting that this story came out and the market tanked. Is it possible that we are making the Central banks nervous. Interesting that it fell 150 points in 15 seconds, of course this was blamed on a glitch. I'm not say'in, I'm just say'in.
- erasmocbc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Some are trying to censore this story from making it to the main page.
The report is true!
Another hole in the official story, So the standard way for them to deal with it is to keep the facts away from the people.
Do not allow them to get away with it. Get informed, refuse to be manipulated. Tell your friends. Here is a link to the original story buried down in spite of it continuing to receive more diggs an comments all the time.
http://digg.com/politics/BBC_Reported_Building_7_Had_Collapsed_20_Minutes_Before_It_Fell
with 1789 diggs and 1000 comments. - smokecheck, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8 At 13:56-which is the minutes into the feed.... The anchor says: "Jane Standly, what more can you tell us about the Solomon Brothers collapse? " Jane begins to elaborate about the previous question and at this point then says" (@film time 14:38) " As you can see behind me, the trade center appears to still be burning. (while she turns and stands to side so that wTc7 is in clear view,still smoking and still standing) .At tape time 15:06. anchor speaking to Jane says," presumably there were very few people in the Solomon Building when it Collapsed?" Again as wtc7(Solomon Building is still standing and Burning in Live feed background).A sub caption displayed from film time 15:34-16:42 read as follows: LIVE: The 47 story Solomon brothers building close to the world trade center has also collapsed. This entire time..building is still standing in live shot, smoking, in the background.Now @ film time 20:14 Jane's feed begins to break up- However, If you stare at wtc7(Solomon Brothers Building), as you watch the top of it, you will begin to see to the top of it start to shrink down. Wait--If you replay over and over and stare at the other buildings in the same time feed, they are not losing height, nor shrinking to the ground.This can be seen from tape time 20:19-20:24. The evidence doesn't get any clearer than this.
- anastrophe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5is something stopping you from doing so?
- gooddaysunshine, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7 by philipwarner200 2 hours ago
[comment buried, show commenthide comment] + 1 digg It is completely ludicrous to say that reporting that WTC Building 7 fell before it actually fell was only a "mistake." The odds of picking the right building that is going to completely collapse a short time afterward is, I'm sure, high. If they had reported that other buildings had collapsed that hadn't near towers one and two, then maybe, the argument that it was an error in reporting would be stronger. However, a "respected" news agency is reporting on exactly the right building that is going to collapse: WTC 7.
This kind of mistake is just not possible. You can guess about how many dead there were, but you can't guess about the collapse of building before it happens without foreknowledge.
This is what it is all about folks, does anyone believe Osama Bin Laden and the Cave Dwellers could have planted this story with the AP? Where did it come from and how does it give the explanation that took NIST five years? mistake? that's one hell of a mistake if any one us were to make a mistake like that do you think the authorities would want to look into that? someone somewhere knew this building would fall twenty minutes before it did and had the ability to get it on BBC, CNN, and BBC 24 if you or i called any of these news companies and said building 7 has fallen! building 7 has fallen! they wouldn't just run to air on it, they would check that story for accuracy, unless it came from a reputable source - Heloderma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Hey, Modiga-
Is it also just a coincidence then that the BBC lost the original tapes The tapes which contained live feeds from New York on 9/11 -the BIGGEST story in years???!!
Study 9/11 and discover for yourself how many other "coincidences" there are. - robertlweiland, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7Checkmate0:
It was today's AJ show which anybody can download via podcast for free.If you have Itunes or something similar it takes like 10 seconds to set it up and it will DL his show to you everyday for free.Get it before the new one takes it's place tomorrow.The Alex Jones show streams 24 hours a day for free to all from infowars.com,prisonplanet.com and jonesreport.com.Listen to the first hour starting at 43 minutes til about 50 minutes(of a 3 hour show).He clearly believes that Digg is messing with the system.Honestly I don't know enough about it to say for sure.I'd like to think that there was a truly democratic thing going on here.He actually called for his listeners to do a test and flood Digg during the program to prove the censorship.You'll hear it in the above mentioned time frame.
Here's a little quote for the sheeple out there who love to support government sponsored terrorism:
"If you love wealth more than liberty,the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom,depart from us in peace.We ask not your counsel nor your arms.Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you.May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
Samuel Adams,(1722-1803),Brewer and Patriot - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Time to stop fooling around and wake up.
9/11 Truth is as real as a chair anyone would sit on if they just looked at it first, and the latest developments are a tidal-wave of icing on a mountain of a cake. Millions of people around the world know the truth, and if anyone wants to waste time trying to convince other people not to look at it their motives have been perverted beyond belief. They are either government operatives or normal citizens, but either way both of them will later regret their role in building the police state.
Time to stop WW3 by using 9/11 Truth to expose the fake "War on Terror".
Check with Webster Tarpley for more details, he's a genius who's studied this stuff for years and has the best solutions for saving the world.
Peace, (NOW!!!)
BK - Selina23, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Wow! It's true. You cannot find this article when you search top diggs in past 24 hours! It goes from 332 diggs to 322 diggs. Totally passes this article. FREEDOM OF SPEECH, DIGG!!!!! WE DEMAND IT!
- keldorn2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Does this mean Centcom controls digg.com
- corruptionteam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6we are 17 yr veterans in undercover investigations involving gov and corporate corruption, conspiracies and cover-ups in various countries...yes they exist, and we knew 911 was a conspiracy a week after it happened. there has been enough evidence presented by Alex Jones and others, in the past 5 years to convince any person with average intelligence that this is the case...and most people around the world know it...but good luck convincing die-hard mainstream Americans. if bush came on fox and CNN and admitted it, they would still say it was OK if it saves us all from osama, who BTW has been dead for 4 years. what Alex and the rest of you need to concentrate on now is that we are about to hit Iran...nothing anyone can do can stop it and it will probably start world war 3 and 4 so get used to it. i have heard it said that a conspiracy involving hundreds or thousands of people is impossible because someone will blow the whistle...don`t believe it folks...we have seen it with our own eyes. remember that the mafia, drug cartels, smuggling rings, and all forms of organized crime all involve thousands of people and are all conspiracies but they always survive even if someone does blow the whistle. the whistle blower is quickly discredited or disappears and the conspiracy continues as usual. get yourselves ready for the worst case scenario, a world depression or total economic collapse in the near future and more wars and death. 911 was the magic key which started the nightmare we are in at the moment and unfortunately there appears to be no magic key to stop it. this will just have to play out and we hope there will be a happy ending for the good people who deserve it. take steps to save your own family and pray for everyone else. keep spreading the truth and use whatever skills and resources you have to convince others and you will have done your part and that is all anyone can ask.
- ZakKaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You can't stop 9-11 truth. Were goingto keep growing and growing. There is nothing you fools can do to stop us. Weare just to many in number now so get used to more blogs and diggs regarding the
9-11 cover-up, good luck trying to stop us as we take over the internet and then the rest of the media spectrum.
ZakKaz from Canada. - artist000z, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Why are they burying every single story about this.... What are they so afraid of?
- zerotensor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6That's the wrong approach, diggiac. If such official censorship exists, allowing its chilling effect to work only serves the censors. Respond to the chill by building a bigger fire.
- RackAttack, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@checkmate0
It has been reported that "government spooks" (best term), have been directed to scour the Internet, and are being paid to debunk and discredit any story which might be damaging to the government (lies). It's quite possible that many of the "bury" hits are by them. And if you want to hear any day's Alex Jones show, just go to www.infowars.com and click on the upper right area where it says something like "listen" ... They rebroadcast the show on a loop over and over again until the next live show. ... So hurry up it you want to hear it. Each weekday show is 3 hours long, and the start times of the loop will be easy to remember if you just remember the directions of a compass: North, South, East & West .. By that I mean EASTERN TIME!! ... In other words, 12 noon to 3 pm, is the LIVE show, then the loop begins with start times of: 3pm, 6pm, 9pm, 12midnight, 3am, etc... Until the next live show. There is also a free podcast service that puts out at 3pm to 6pm each weekday. Here's a few links:
http://www.infowars.com
http://www.infowars.com/listen.html
AND A DIRECT LINK TO THE SHOW: http://www.nfowars.net:443/stream1.pls - Zeitblom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2All out attack! ;-)
Please sign this petition - and help put pressure on the funny folks at the BBC.
Will help a LOT to get the story into European MSM. Thanks!
http://www.petitiononline.com/wtc7bbc/petition.html
and digg it up here:
http://digg.com/world_news/BBC_Censorship_and_Cover_up_Sign_this_petition - inabadmood7378, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Those that believe in the coincidence theory , maybe you could explain this before you resort to fifth grade name calling.
It has been highly debated Silverstein's use of the term "pulled it" in the PBS Silverstein interview. If you don't know the term "pull" is used to describe the act of demolition in regards to buildings.
From their own words
Silverstein
"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
"just pull It" why does he refer to firefighters as "it"
No delay implied; he made his decision and watched as the building collapsed.
Debunking View(from Silverstein's spokesman)
"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."
He spoke with the fire department commander "in the afternoon" to pull firefighters.
From FEMA report below,"manual firefighting efforts were stopped fairly early in the day"
Official report
With the limited information currently available, fire development in this building needs additional study. Fires were observed to be located on the lower levels for the majority of the time from the collapse of WTC 1 to the collapse of WTC 7. It appears that the sprinklers may not have been effective due to the limited water on site, and that the development of the fires was not significantly impeded by the firefighters because manual firefighting efforts were stopped fairly early in the day.
These "coincidence theorist" should get their facts straight. - kayaker712, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I don't think necessarily that this shows that the BBC was complicit directly in 9/11. Mainly like our own media they are accessories after the fact.
What likely happened was that the 9/11 script went a little off, the demolition was late for one reason or another and the mechanism in place to issue a press release about the "collapse" went out in schedule. Someone didn't get the word.
I have to laugh at the "debunkers" their arguments are getting progressively more ridiculous, but you have to give them an "A" for effort but an "F-" for results.
A black-op like 9/11 is usually scripted literally to the second, all are moves set up in advance including the news releases.
Obviously, Bldg 7 was intended to come down an hour earlier but was delayed for some odd reason. It happens, but the releases were set up for a certain time and basically someone screwed up.
As for why the BBC is covering up, they like our idiot media have so much credibility wrapped up in the official conspiracy theory they fear the backlash if they come clean and ever do any real reporting on the issue. After all most of this information has been known and demonstrated for years and there is no excuse for being uninformed. They are all in way too deep. I don't expect this to cause them to backtrack on anything, they're married to the official story for better or for worse.
The best part of this is their reaction, the cover-up is likely to convince more people than the original story did! -
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