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- arjie, on 06/10/2008, -1/+166"A US gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations. "
Well well well... that's interesting. So Halliburton, Blackwater et al. get to be the only ones to bid on multi-billion contracts and then the government places a gagging order on the court process? I wonder if 'Confidential' is going to be the cover under which the US Administration robs its citizens. - npk9, on 06/10/2008, -5/+112This really pisses me off like no other!! I mean where do you begin with charging people? How far does it go in the government?? This isn't just Bush/Cheney & Company - it includes them but it goes much further then this!!!
Why should I pay taxes when it goes back into a private company and not for the well being of the country?! - DragonGirl724, on 06/10/2008, -0/+102There was coverage (very brief coverage) that TONS (363 TONS to be exact) of newly printed US dollars flown over to Iraq on palattes in 2007 mysteriously got lost.
how the hell do you "lose" 363 TONS of cash??
"The Federal Reserve Bank in New York had to pack 281 million individual bills onto wooden palettes to be shipped to Iraq. The cash weighed more than 363 tons and was loaded on C-130 cargo planes to be flown into Baghdad."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0702/07/acd ... - spacetheater, on 06/10/2008, -1/+89WTF!! We're talking about what Congressman Waxman says may be "the largest war profiteering in history" and there's a god-damn gagging order!?! This is sinful. This is a crime. The Judge in charge of Iraq's Commission for Public Integrity says "I believe these people are criminals." Could not agree more. Let's send them Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay. These are the people who deserve to be subject to "enhanced interrogation" if anyone does.
- Taktic, on 06/10/2008, -5/+72This should hit the front page.
- oldhick, on 06/10/2008, -1/+61It doesn't matter if you or conservative or liberal, there is no reason for a gag order here. That is an outrage to democracy. Our entire form of government relies on transparency and openness.
- spacetheater, on 06/10/2008, -2/+42Just to add the only reason the murderous brutality is continuing in the killing fields of Iraq is because these military-industrialists are making god-awful amounts of profit out of it. Send the war profiteers to jail and the rest of us want peace with the good people of Iraq.
- hsansom, on 06/10/2008, -1/+40IG Farben and other German companies (or their leaders) faced prosecution for crimes against humanity for their profiteering (and worse) during the Second World War. Halliburton and its executives, Blackwater and its executives, and all their counterparts should face prosecution for their atrocities during the Iraq war.
- TipsyMcStumbles, on 06/10/2008, -0/+38The Bush-Cheney war profiteering racket is nothing short of treasonous. Add this to W's list of high crimes and misdemeanors. The list is long.
- GrownupPhan, on 06/11/2008, -1/+35Way to go U.S. MSM. Once again, it takes a UK media outlet to give this story any coverage.
- DragonGirl724, on 06/10/2008, -1/+33and people wonder why the dollar is in the dumps......
- Shiftgood, on 06/11/2008, -3/+29Because you're a republican... or at least your government is.
(sorry republicans, this administration has tarnished your name pretty bad, i know you're not all bad...but some are really really *****...Its time to do some house cleaning) - QsheiK, on 06/11/2008, -0/+25As outraged as we get, we will never realize how much $23 billion really is until we put it into perspective:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_ ...
That money that the States lost is more than over a hundred country's GDP. - Waiting2awake, on 06/11/2008, -0/+23and yet still so many Americans still refuse to connect the dots eh?
- Stavrosian, on 06/11/2008, -0/+23Bear in mind that's a UK media outlet which seems to be bizarrely painted as either completely biased or just flat-out communist by some Americans because it has the nerve to question the status quo.
- Freedom4Tibet, on 06/10/2008, -1/+24Not like we didn't already know this, but hopefully this story will give this issues some more exposure. Sadly, I feel like this on top of everything else will never get the media attention or POLITICAL ACTION that it needs. Too much corruption in politics.
Everyone says they want to stay out of Politics because its corrupt. No. Please get involved with politics so we can rid this country of corrupt politicians who enter politics only because it has been facilitated by their family history. - SeanRoach26, on 06/10/2008, -0/+22I can not believe no one has been brought up on criminal charges for this. Impeachment must happen.
They fire Air Force command for messing up an order to Taiwan and do nothing when billions go missing?
It's morally reprehensible. - kyledwards, on 06/10/2008, -2/+22This doesn't surprise me. War profiteering ranks up there with genocide. A sad day...
- demonotaku, on 06/10/2008, -2/+22Just found this on my own and found it here. It disgusts me completely.
- jamble, on 06/11/2008, -0/+19It shouldn't be that hard to figure out most of it is in Dick Cheney's bank account.
- DeviantDragon, on 06/11/2008, -2/+20http://digg.com/world_news/BBC_uncovers_lost_Iraq_ ...
Notice that 5 at the end of your URL? Paramnesia, gg for checking for dupes. - jascination, on 06/11/2008, -0/+17Throughout this war, the extent to which the current administration has tarnished the freedom, privacy and reputation of America, its allies and those in Iraq is truly horrendous. I am so, SO afraid of what your government is capable of
And the truly scary thing is that not a single thing will be done about it. - GRTWHT, on 06/11/2008, -1/+16As long as you (all people who believe as Shiftgood) continue to believe that this is a "republican" issue and electing a "democrat" will fix it, we are all *****.
Stop falling for the phony 2 party *****, accept that our government as a whole is corrupt and we may be able to fix the system some day.
Let the politically motivated burying begin. - inactive, on 06/11/2008, -0/+15Try a missing TRILLION!
Military waste under fire
$1 trillion missing -- Bush plan targets Pentagon accounting
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/ ...
- flashback99, on 06/11/2008, -0/+15***** these war criminals. They are no different from the enemies they claim to be thwarting. Why is it that criminals go to jail, but this adminstration gets to fly off free of charge?
- dsmx, on 06/11/2008, -1/+15Actually Halliburton doesn't bid on contracts cheney hands them no bid contracts.
- 55mph, on 06/11/2008, -0/+14It did.
- luke16, on 06/11/2008, -1/+14Twice
- sodade, on 06/11/2008, -0/+13Demand transparency of government - they have proven that they can't be trusted with "secrets." Especially not the military. It's not that the people can't handle the truth - the military can't handle the repercussions of the people actually knowing the truth.
- GRANDPAMUNSTER, on 06/11/2009, -0/+13They sent dump trucks of cash in to a war zone, good thinking eh? As far as Americans not connecting the dots, most are more concerned about American Idol or whatever other distraction is on the tv. The cable newsmedia is only reporting on election 08 coverage(apparently there is no other news)
- xs11ax, on 06/11/2008, -0/+12"A US gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations. "
yet most people will not be able to see beyond their own stupidity that a gagging order itself shows their guilt. - Ciryon, on 06/11/2008, -1/+13BBC owns. If you ever have a chance, you should watch HardTalk with Stephen Sackur.
- rzxc, on 06/11/2008, -1/+13Nothing will come of this...yet. The Establishment likes corrupt politicians. In fact, the Establishment only deals with corrupt politicians because it can control them. After all, corrupt politicians are easy to get rid of. The Establishment has so much dirt on them, it can blackmail those politicians into doing whatever they want. And if they don't do what the Establishment wants, it will simply go public with the information it has. Case in point: Ehud Olmert. Obviously, the Establishment does not want peace. When it found out that Olmert was negotiating with Hamas, it decided to move against Olmert (an American businessman went public with details of Olmert's dirty laundry). This is one way the Establishment can control the agenda. If you're interested, you can read more at www.politicsofextortion.com
- 10goto10, on 06/11/2008, -3/+14I like this story better: http://digg.com/world_news/BBC_uncovers_lost_Iraq_ ...
- screenwalker, on 06/11/2008, -0/+10As said earlier a Trillion USD might be closer.
The sum calculated by the BBC does not include monies wasted through massively overinflated billing by the "selected" contractors similar to the UK's 250K Zebra crossings billing (see http://duvet-dayz.com/archives/2007/10/29/461/ ). This type of sleaze is not new, but the level and extend of it is (we have seen over-billing in the region of 10-20 times within a recent investigation in International Organizations, G8 Government administrations and assoc.).
What also is surprising, that the sum is even smaller than the USD 30 Billion the Pentagon has already admitted last year to "...not being accounted for..." read most of it has disappeared in some peoples pockets.
Anybody looking into the matter should also review how much of these overinflated bills has been coming back home to political parties in the US and particularly into the practices of the big accounting firms that are auditing and approving these budgets. They themselves are continuously granted massive contracts in parallel seemingly to be quiet. - one small example - a fat four accounting firm being paid USD 40.000 p.a. to look at up to four 3 page MS Excel sheets (in our opinion a max 4 days job) per country in a contract. Now multiply this with about 60 countries included and by up to a dozen contracts per country. It all looks legit if you don't have inside knowledge to cut through the tons of paperwork created on top by hundreds of government staffers to cover up.
There are massive theft and money laundry operations going on with the tax payers money by what we call government associates or enterprises specifically setup for this task operating similar to organized crime. You could of course just call this corruption.
But to put it in words like Ron Paul "...don't steal ... the government hates competition..." hence the "gagging order". - Handonam, on 06/11/2008, -0/+10with the same headline
- Waiting2awake, on 06/11/2008, -1/+11and yet someone dugg you down? There are some seriously messed up people out there...
I'll ask again America... - is THIS enough for you to stand up???
What else will it take for you to understand what is happening to you? - JMellissa, on 06/11/2008, -0/+10It's no surprise to me. The Iraq war has been a profiteering scheme from the very beginning and the people responsible should be hanged.
- ddfall, on 06/11/2008, -0/+10Oddly enough. Twice. They're both a 'top story now.'
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 08/11/2008, -0/+9It's called GRAFT, folks. And it is the way that Tammany Hall and previous corrupt administrations used to fleece the public coffers in the good old days, before the rule of law. But it has taken 50 years for them to game the system back to the rigged deals they used to enjoy. This time their graft has collapsed our dollar to half its value, but they all got the trillions Bush was put into office (by them) to send their way. Congrats, scumbags.
- stutimandal, on 06/10/2008, -8/+17Finally someone spoke on this issue. My guess is that the figure is around $230 billion and not around $23 billion.
- 55mph, on 06/11/2008, -0/+9GRT, you are absolutly right. The US has a one party system thanks to special interest funding.
- inactive, on 06/11/2008, -0/+9A US gagging order is preventing discussion of the allegations.
To date, no major US contractor faces trial for fraud or mismanagement in Iraq.
It may well turn out to be the largest war profiteering in history. - soinie, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8If Bush and Company aren't arrested, put on trial, convicted, executed and their assets and estates seized, the American people will have been cheated out of justice they deserve. And anyone who voted for the bastards should be paying the taxes of those who didn't for the next 8 years.
- 3tcp, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8How about a 1% reward for anyone who can find out where it went? $230,000,000 is a hell of an incentive to expose corruption.
- Pigeon, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8What I don't get is why the hell they sent it in CASH. I can't think of any better way to lose it other than flying around Iraq dropping it out of the plane.
- martoq, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8I don't think "lost" is the appropriate word. I would go more with "plundered."
- Waiting2awake, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8Because they have the key people, in key positions. The system itself is broke - and gamed.
Americans.... what are you going to do about it? How much more obvious does it have to be before you take a stand? If you don't do it over this, the wiretaps, the secret prisons, the spying, stolen elections.... for Christ sake just think for a minute what these people have done to your country. - tk0680, on 06/11/2008, -0/+8Sigh. You're all reacting as if this is something new and as if anything will happen as a result.
America, you missed chance after chance to do something about the comically flagrant issues your government has. Now you can just wait, and probably elect another Republican in a few months. GG. -
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