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- inactive, on 11/11/2007, -1/+7Ask any local university historian for the evidence indicating jesus was anything other than a manufactured martyr of the late 1st century CE. He/she will tell you that no such evidence of a "historical" jesus exists. His existence MUST be taken on faith, just like those who believe in Zeus and/or many other mythical characters.
Nothing was written about jesus for more than four decades after he was "supposedly" executed. He has no tomb because (conveniently) his burial could not take place (as his imaginary daddy whisked him up to heaven, apparently just in the nick of time!). No bones, right? Not one contemporary historian wrote even one sentence about him. Why is that? I'll tell you!
Because he didn't exist for them to write about!
The FACT is that jesus christ was a "manufactured martyr" of the late 1st century CE. A small political group "created" him to serve them in their cause of ridding their nation of the Roman occupation.
All such groups at that time needed such a person (who was apparently willing to die for their cause) to gain recruits.
Look it up!
In the 4th century CE, the church became worried about this lack of historical evidence. So the christian bishop and church historian Eusebius went so far as to alter the works of Flavius Josephus to give jesus
credence where none existed (See his Ecclesiastical History, Vol. 8, chapter 2, or his Praeparatio Evangelica, book 12, chapter 32, where he admits altering historical works for the benefit of the church is a good thing!).
But he failed.
He had neglected to alter the work of earlier christian historians who studied Josephus and found no mention of jesus (the principal one being the christian historian Origen, who studied Josephus extensively).
But the "Josephus" claim as "proof" for the historical jesus is a poor argument at best, for he was born after the "imaginary" crucifixion anyway!
Here is a short list of writers and historians who lived within the same century as the Jesus myth. Remember that of all these, only one (Josephus) is said to have written anything about it, and it is decried by most scholars as an interpolation :
Caius Suetonius, Josephus, Philo-Judæus, Seneca, Pliny Elder, Arrian, Petronius, Dion Pruseus, Paterculus, Juvenal, Martial, Persius, Plutarch, Pliny Younger, Tacitus, Justus of Tiberius, Apollonius, Quintilian, Lucanus, Epictetus, Hermogones, Silius Italicus, Statius, Ptolemy, Appian, Phlegon, Phædrus, Valerius Maximus, Lucian, Pausanias, Florus Lucius, Quintius Curtius, Aulus Gellius, Dio Chrysostom, Columella Valerius Flaccus, Damis, Favorinus, Lysias, Pomponius Mela, Appion of Alexandria, Theon of Smyrna, Justus of Tiberias
(John E. Remsburg, "The Christ: A Critical Review and Analysis of the Evidence of His Existence", pp. 24-25)
Mythical characters, like jesus christ, have ALL been manufactured in a similar manner.
Christians are only fooling themselves.
They are to be pitied in their ignorance. - philscotch, on 10/30/2007, -0/+2yay, funds! ^^
- RRSwebsite, on 11/12/2007, -1/+2Clue us in, what exactly would be predetermining everything in a godless world? Considering this theory of yours is laughed at by scientists and philosophers I think you probably should prove your case, rather than make absurd assertions with no backing.
- clothmonkey, on 11/12/2007, -1/+2What? Go study chaotic systems. If there are patterns, it is because we have evolved to perceive particular forms of noise as such.
- Napoleone, on 11/12/2007, -2/+1In a godless system, both chaos and patterns are merely a matter of perception; and all things are uni-directional and reactionary and have their courses plotted throughout eternity.
- Napoleone, on 11/12/2007, -4/+1If atheists are correct, and there is no god of any sort, they would have to concede that randomness is impossible and all things are predetermined. Including this sentence and all responses to it.
- Napoleone, on 11/12/2007, -5/+2I'm not a Christian, but people used to say the exact same thing about Buddha and he turned out to have been an actual person.
If atheists are going to take that position, they run the very real risk of further empowering the Christian church down the line if tangible evidence of his existence is discovered.
